 I know, it's interesting to be able to tell. Rick Gubs, there's plenty of interest in the whole thing. Yeah, I know, isn't that a full-serve one? Not really, but it's like a sirly two, isn't it? Remember, all of them. It's just a full-serve one. What's a demo? It's my first full-serve one. Yeah, you see? None of them are full-serve ones. I mean, I think I've been sort of certain. What time does he have to be asked? 30% I mean, I always know when he comes up in here. Not a lot of dirt. Oh, we don't have our little fancy things today. Hello? No, we don't. We don't have screens. We don't have screens. Thanks for noticing. I guess we could have just looked up there. I don't have a scare from that. Going to hold off for just a second before we get started because our vice chair noticed that we don't have any screens that are, it might be, but they're not here. We don't have microphones, so we'll be hopping up. Oh, no, you can't. Yeah, y'all got to go. I still use my phone. You only match your hands. Oh, thank you. Come on, let's send it. I mean, we can turn around. I can turn around. We can turn around. That's the way it used to be. That's the only day. Not good to harass a dog. I've got a hole in my big toe from harassing my dog. I love that. Actually, I tried to break up a fight between the two men. It was all over, but the fight was over a carrot. But one of our cordy's, two of our cordy's are 14 years old. Our dog was two years old. There was a pair of one of them. He had it. It is. And the alcohol, you know, was sort of that. Not without issues. Hi, John. How are you? Good to see you. OK, let's get started. The Design Development Review Commission is made up of volunteers with expertise or interest in historic preservation and design. We generally meet on the second Thursday of the month to review cases. Staff at the commission are our urban design and historic preservation staff. They are available to answer questions if you have them, but please do not interrupt proceedings if you do intend or do need to speak with one of them. The meeting generally proceeds with the staff calling the case and describing it. I will call for the applicant to come forward afterward to add to the basic description of the request, if necessary, or if the applicant wishes to do so. If so, the applicant should keep the presentation to 10 minutes or less. The commissioners will then have the opportunity to ask questions. At this point, I will ask if there is anyone in the audience who wishes to speak for or against the proposal, audience comments shall be kept to two minutes per person. If there is, the applicant will have an opportunity to respond, and this rebuttal shall not exceed five minutes. In most cases, we will make a decision tonight after all information has been presented. If your case is denied or if you feel that our decision was made an error, you and anyone withstanding have the opportunity to appeal it within 30 days of the decision. If you plan to speak about a specific project, you must have signed in. The sheet is at the back of the room. Also, and so that members of the public understand, commissioners are under strict instructions to avoid discussing DDRC meetings and applications without members of the public or with each other outside of these proceedings to avoid ex parte communications. If you wish to speak during the course of these proceedings, please stand and raise your right hand. Do you affirm to tell the truth in these proceedings? Staff, could you call role, please? Mr. Bognite? Mr. Broom? Here. Mr. Daniel? Ms. Filler-Welt? Here. Mr. Nguyen? Yeah. Mr. Savery? Here. We have a quorum. Great. The DDRC utilizes a consent agenda for those projects which require DDRC review but which meet the guidelines and typically require no discussion. If anyone wishes to discuss an item on the consent agenda, I will ask that you speak up after the consent agenda is read and we can pull the item for discussion onto the regular agenda. Staff, would please read the consent agenda. The first case on the consent agenda is 1328 Blanding Street. Pardon me. This is a request for a certificate of design approval for preliminary certification for the Bailey Bill. It's an individual landmark. And the second case is 2249 Wayne Street. This is a request for a certificate of design approval for new construction in the Elmwood Park Architectural Conservation District. And we also have the approval of the July minutes. Very good. Is there anyone who wishes to take an item off the consent agenda for discussion? If not, could I please have a motion from a commissioner to approve the consent agenda and the meeting minutes? The second? Second. Second. Have a vote, please. Mr. Bachknight? Mr. Broom? Yes. Mr. Daniel? Yes. Ms. Fuller-Wilt? Yes. Mr. Wynne? Yes. Mr. Savery? Yes. Motion passes. Could you please introduce the first case? The first case is 911 Washington Street. This is a request for a certificate of design approval for new construction in the City Center Design Development District. This is a case that was before you a couple of months ago. It was in June. And the applicant has gone back to address several of the concerns and some of the guidelines from the previous presentation. And Craig Otto is the architect who is here to present the project. And I'll just let him come up here and get started. I'm Craig Otto, architect for the project. Thank you for seeing us again. And I appreciate your deferral from our last time. And since then, Lusun and I have met a couple of times, talked many times on the phone, sent stuff back and forth, and have worked together very well. And I very much sincerely appreciate her input. And I think she has definitely made this a better building as a result. If you notice, I'm not even going to reference too much back of what we presented last time. I'll just talk about what we're presenting this time. We have, again, a five-story hotel, the first four stories of which are mainly brick. Only the fifth floor is all stucco, except as you can see, the entrance tower and a face in Washington Street as well as the tower facing Lincoln Street, which are sort of duplicate towers. Those are stucco from above the first floor onto the top to give some contrast to the materials on the exterior. The colors that you see are somewhat representative of what we intend to do. The brick is a gray brick with gray mortar. And the stucco is in plan to be a limestone type color, sort of an off-white color. All the window frames, the storefront and the windows on the first floor as well as the windows above are all a clear aluminum finished color. The coping and cornice around the top of the entire building is sort of a charcoal black to give it that new modern look rather than what may be in the traditional sense of this building would be more of a white color trim. So we are trying to make the, the building has a somewhat traditional look to it, but we've taken and made some of it look a little more modern by the colors that we're using and by some of the shapes. We've addressed the number of Lucinda's original concerns about the verticality of the window treatments, the materials at the windows with brick. We have brick bands on both sides of the windows going all the way up both sides. A brick header course over the top of the soldier course, as well as a sloped brick sill underneath the bottom of each window on the upper floors and as well as the first floor as well. And at the stucco, we've got the same sort of complimenting that brick trim. We're doing it with stucco around the windows that are in the stucco wall. So we're getting the same effect but contrasting it with the light smooth material versus the brick that obviously has a lot of texture to it. The back two sides that are not facing either any street are only facing the parking lot. We've reduced the amount of brick simply to conserve on the budget, save some money. The higher you go with brick and such, it becomes more expensive. So we just continuing the stucco around the back two sides. We are bringing the brick around the ends of the building so that when you're driving down Washington or up Lincoln, you will see almost all brick. You'd pretty much have to drive around to the parking lot to see where we've got more stucco versus the brick. The corners at the top of the parapet wall is continuous all the way around other than at the corner entry where it does pop up higher. We've got a minimum of four foot parapet wall so all of the mechanical units on the roof will be screened because we'll have small mechanical units as opposed to large sort of fresh air type systems that can be to eight feet tall. These units that we're gonna have are only gonna be about four feet, maybe five feet tall. Because they'll be centered in the building, there would be no way to see them from any street with the parapet wall and the projection of your view. And you can see the canopy on the back that's got a drive-through canopy for two cars wide. It's again more of a modern look. That's actually based on the prototypical a holiday-end type canopy at this point. And then as you also saw, there's a canopy on the front facing Washington Street. Our civil engineer's been working with the city for encroachment permits for the canopy, as well as a handicap ramp that will be coming off of on the right end of this building. You can see in the rendering, you can't see the handicap ramp. It's strategically located behind the Corvette there on Washington Street, but there's a ramp there. You just can't see it. And it's on the floor plan as well as the site plan. So we do have handicap accessibility. All the entrances except for this one on Washington, which is three feet above the ground, actually maybe as many as three, three and a half feet. So there was no way to build an attractive ramp so they simply, folks simply go around to the right corner and head to the back door or to the side door. So that rendering depicts very well what our intentions are with the brick and stucco combinations in the tower. The very corner tower, which is the tallest element on the building was designed specifically based on Lucinda's recommendation that we have a little more of a corner presence. And even though the entrance is one bay off the corner, we brought the tower up and changed the window design and did the larger storefront on the bottom as well. And by the way, I'm here representing the owner, Mr. Casey Udani, he's here tonight. And that's actually gonna be his office in the corner. So he's got that grand office. So I think that gives you a good overview and if you have any questions of me about it, I'll be happy to answer anything there. Tell me before we move to any questions from the commissioners, ask if there's anybody here that wanted to speak in support or against the project. Nope, great, okay. Any comments, questions? I have a question regarding parking. Yes. Off street parking or off-site parking? The rendering you're showing me with card parked on the left-hand side, that's all city of Columbia Police Department, is that correct? Or is that combination of public and city of police? Do you have a site plan on the screen? There you go. We have no, all of the parking that we're developing and that we're going to use specifically for the hotel is on-site as far as what fits on-site. We have 52 parking spaces on the property. We're not planning on using the public parking on Lincoln Street. Obviously if patrons want to use the metered spaces on Washington Street, they're allowed to do that. But the remainder of the parking spaces that we'll need is 52 to 55 would be Caddy Corner across the street in the city parking garage. And that has already been negotiated with the city and is approved for use for this property. So the owner does have access to all those parking spaces that are reserved for the hotel. So there are well more than 100 parking spaces combined. All right, thank you. Are there questions or comments? Craig, I think this has vastly improved since the last time that we saw and I think it's a testimony to the value of DDRC and staff and the architect working together well to improve the project. I think it's much more in line with the intent of the design guidelines. So I think it is an effort and work well done. I'm wondering, and I'm looking at the rendering, I'm glad to see the push and pull in the facade. I think that the balance between something that's monotonous and something that's potentially frenetic is just about right. It's got restraint, but it's got interest as well. What is the difference in depth? What's the difference in plane between the Stucco projections and the Brick projections? It looks like it's several feet. What is that actually going to be? The two projections facing both Lincoln and Washington, one's Brick, one's Stucco. Those are out on the same plane, three and a half feet from the Brick behind it. Now the corner tower actually projects out a little more than the back wall. So there's about a foot and a half or two foot difference between the Stucco and the corner tower on both Lincoln and Washington. And what about the, is there are the windows in the Brick recessed at all? Typically? In the main, yes, in the, yes they are. Actually, I gave loose into detail. And as I recall, they're either five or six inches recessed from the plane of the trim Brick or the accent Brick, the soldier stack courses on each side. Those project out a half of an inch and then the window frame is about five or six inches behind that Brick. So there is quite a depth there. There isn't as much depth at the Stucco because the Stucco is not a stick material, but I think again that gives it some contrast. Yeah, I agree. You know, I'm a little, I wish that there were more activity on the facades that turn in towards the parking because they will be, even though they're not on the street, they'll be highly visible from the street. But I think that there's enough interest and enough texture in the facades that face Lincoln and Washington that it probably, in my opinion, it will carry the building well enough in terms of its presence on the street. It seems like the rendering is showing the topography significantly flatter than that corner actually is. Not that, I don't personally have great concern about it except just that I think it may have a little bit different kind of character from what the, in terms of the way it sits on the site from what the rendering shows. Is that right? That is particularly on Lincoln Street. I think there's a pretty significant embankment there. I would agree. To a certain degree, the height of the building above the grade immediately adjacent to the building is pretty accurate, represented in that there's about a three to three and a half foot difference between the finished floor and the ground. But when you, and on Washington Street, I think it's fairly accurate as well. Lincoln Street it is not. I don't think the person doing the rendering understood that there is a three or four foot or more grade drop. There is a new sidewalk on Lincoln Street, which is visible in the rendering. That would be a little lower in elevation than what you see here. There's also, you know, there's some artistic license here. So there's a couple of power poles not shown, one of which unfortunately is at the corner. But there's not much, you know, we can't do anything about that. Thank you. Any more comments or questions? Wonderful project. Looks great. Thank you, Mr. Wayne. I applaud the changes that have been made between staff and yourselves. Well, as I said earlier, and I was sincere about it. Lucinda's done a great job making suggestions, never telling me what to do, but making suggestions. And yeah, and I'm very pleased with the results as well. Very good. Anything else? Would someone like to make a motion? I'll make a motion. Regarding to 9-11 Washington Street, I would recommend the approval of the request, providing that the conditional upon details be deferred to the staff, including the following. The rooftop mall and utility equipment screening if necessary. Refinement of the design of the upper side of the tower. Streetscape improvements such as sidewall design, trees, landscaping, irrigation, and street lighting. Your second. Do you have a vote, please? Mr. Botnite. Mr. Broom. Yes. Mr. Daniel. Yes. Ms. Filler-Wilt. Yes. Mr. Nguyen. Yes. Mr. Savery. Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Next case, please. The next case is this is 1233 Washington Street. This is a request for certificate design approval for exterior changes to an existing building also in the City Center and Design Development District. This has not come before you before, but is a renovation of the old security federal building. And Craig Otto is also the architect on this building. So conveniently, he is going to come up again and give a presentation. I don't know if anybody else wanted to present from your team. OK. So 1233 Washington Street is a 10-story office building that was completed in the mid-1950s. Its original design was modern of concrete stone and glass. The building consists of two primary masses, a tall, narrow, solid tower, and a large, lighter, and largely transparent box wrapped around it. The design used typical mid-century concepts of a heavy mass floating on a transparent base and was dramatic in its use of solids and voids. Throughout the last several decades, the building has been modified significantly. Stucko was applied to the exterior, removing the contrast between the clean, solid, concrete forms of the more transparent box that clings to it. The windows were replaced completely. Moreover, the addition of Stucko eliminated the visual layering of materials that defined the separate forms and the relationship to each other. While the applicant extensively explored removing the Stucko, it was unsuccessful. When so much of the original exterior material has been lost, it becomes more difficult to review renovations based on the integrity of the original design. The approach herein is to renovate the building in a way that recalls some of the original design concepts while modernizing it for its future use as a hotel. And then I'll let them be on that. My name is Craig Otto. I'm the architect for the project. I'm sorry that you don't have a little more variety tonight with folks you get to speak to. I'm here representing Raj and AJ Champaneri. They're sitting right back here. They're brothers and partners in the hotel business. They own a number of properties, one of which is the Aloft Hotel in the Vista, right here. So they're already good citizens of the city of Columbia in that regard, and they want to continue to be with this project. They bought this building with the intent, the original intent of restoring it pretty much back to its original condition. And I was very excited about that. Many of you are probably aware of the fact that there's quite a modern movement right now, particularly mid-century modern. The building was completed in 1954, right? In mid-century, and it's a great example. The original building is a great example of that mid-century modern design. I think it was very well done. And what we wanted to do originally was restore it. And the owners would seek tax credits to do so. They employed the services of Mashburn Construction to do a lot of exploratory work, demolition, investigation, and that's been going on for months and months. And after removing small portions of some metal panels at the windows, the ethos, the stucco that you see there now, which is the ethos, I'm sure you're all familiar with, is a styrofoam-based stucco material that was glued, the stucco, the styrofoam was glued directly, I say styrofoam, expanded polystyrene boardwreck. But anyway, it was glued directly to the stone of the original building. I don't know what, I apologize for insulting anybody who originally did this, but I don't know what they were thinking when they did that back in the, we believe it was in the early 90s or late 80s. But they really kind of ruined the building. The owners have taken off pieces of the stucco and they cannot get it back to its original finish without damaging the original finish. They've tried about three different methods for doing so, including chemical, grinding, chipping, all kinds of ways. And they finally came to the conclusion that they could not restore it without it being such a great expense that it wouldn't be worth it. So what our intentions now are to bring it back to a mid-century but more modern look to compliment what was there originally, but to bring it to the year 2018 or 25. So that's what we've tried to do. I'd like if I may, I'd like to just read something for you that was written by, we have a consulting architect and an interior design firm is working with us and they've been an integrally involved in it with the interior as well as consulting on the exterior. And what I'd like to read is that the proposed design for this project seeks to revitalize the essence of the original security federal building while bringing it forward to today's day, a modern day. Modern material expressions and methodology of breaking up the building's largest facade, which is that back facade you're looking at there, are derived from the existing elements of the building design that make it unique. In this fashion, the new design is meant to bridge the gap between the old and the new. Horizontal composite faux wood panels that you see directly above each window line are used to tie into the interior, which we also are using some wood material on the interior to bring warm wood accents both on the interior and exterior and including in the new lobby. These bands also reinforce the horizontality of the original green stone bands that is where that is, they used to be green, but they're obviously too damaged to restore as I stated earlier. We felt it was important to maintain the original placement of the sign. That's where the security federal sign was and so now we're putting the Holiday Inn sign there. And the vertical green band that you see is there. That is a, those are louvers for mechanical rooms that just kind of blend into the building. Now you don't really see them, but they're there. And we thought that directly to the right of them you see some gray portion. A raised aluminum panel system is proposed to emphasize the building's proportions and to create depth on that facing, that west facing facade. The difference in depth between the existing louvered recess, the aluminum panel and the wood band create a subtle interplay of shadows that will change throughout the day, bringing life to this previously blank wall. It's a very large blank wall. And at night we propose that the existing recess would be illuminated with the iconic Holiday Inn green light that will illuminate the building at night and make an attractive and memorable building that the public will see. This will emphasize the same features of the building that were used to engage the public in its historical context. The new materials will bring that ideology into the modern age of architecture. I think that's well said and I didn't want to bore you by reading it, but I didn't want to miss any of those points. So our intention is to keep, and some of this was our meeting with Lucinda as well, the corners have that strong white vertical band at the corner. That's taken, our cue is taken directly from the original building. The horizontal bands under the windows were similar in color in that there was a, it was sort of a muted green contrasting with the white. We're using gray, which is a muted color to contrast with the white corners. But the wood faux wood band underneath is to give it a little more character, again a little more modern. So we've kept a lot of what was there originally, but we've added a little to it to make it better. We've also added a little bit of height to the parapet wall. There is literally no parapet wall in the building now. I've walked on the roof and I don't get within 25 feet of it because I feel like I'm gonna fall because there is no protection whatsoever. So we're adding a parapet wall for the architecture as well as for screening HVAC units and for safety. So that gives it a little more height at the top, which again makes it look a little more modern, a little more contemporary. We're adding a canopy on the Washington street side that's a relatively simple horizontal canopy with overhead supports and the holiday sign. The other two sides are back are fairly simple. There's no real architecture over there other than the vertical and horizontal bands that are very strong. So that's carried all the way around the building. And if you look at that elevation right there on the far left, you see those faux wood bands sticking out. I don't think they're gonna really project out that far. They're gonna be much closer to the building than that appears to be projected out about a foot. They will probably only project out inches rather than a foot. So that won't be as strong as it appears. Are those, I wonder if those are the bands within the window wall or are they the bands that are associated with the concrete wall which would be sticking out further? I mean, another one is they may be further back. That's what they are. They're out on the face of what is now EFIS. Right. That's I think what you're seeing in the elevation that you were referring to sticking out. I think it's what's on the white nut, what's, you can see how it steps back into the windows. Yes. That's correct. That makes sense. That is true. Sorry to interrupt. Go ahead. No, you're absolutely right. We also added in those white vertical corners, we've added a little recessed niche in the wall. Just again, we felt like it added a little more character to the corner and made it a little less plain. One of the cool things about the mid-century modern architecture was that it was, in retrospect, it was somewhat plain, but that was sort of the point. And although it's very attractive, we're just trying to make it a little less plain at this point. Before we move on to the commissioners, is anybody here that wanted to speak for or against the project? And I'm sorry, have you been sworn in? No, I just signed in. My name is Ajay Champaneray. Promise to tell the truth. Promise to tell the truth. And if you could just repeat your name for the record. My name is Ajay Champaneray, I'm one of the owners of the property. Just wanted to let you know that the parking of this part facility is also secured with the city center parking right next door. Sumter Street parking deck was secured to parking. Just wanted to give you that information. Thank you. Any comments or questions from the commissioners? I have a question for you. The security powder room, the office building, sort of speak, is adjacent to the parking garage. That's the city parking garage, correct? Yes, sir. How far apart are the two buildings? I measured it one time and I believe if I recall correctly, 19 feet, so around 20 feet. Okay, based on the type of construction of this building, like 2B or? It's gonna be, if I recall correctly, I have that in my files, but I think it's gonna be 1A or 1B. Can't remember right now. So, the windows I'm concerned about, facing the garage, with that in mind, I'm not sure what 1B is. Is it 10 feet? Well, there's different distances based on the percentage of the wall that can have glass, and we did an analysis on that, and that wall is allowed to have up to 45% of its wall can be glazing exposed to that parking lot or parking garage, rather, because of the separation distance. And again, it worked out to be almost exactly 45% that we actually have that is glazed on that side. So, we've addressed that. We've met with Jerry Thompson a number of times on this project and discussed the windows specifically. On the front facing Washington Street, we have no issues, because of the public way, and on the back facing the back alleyway behind that project right there, can't remember the name of it. That's the public way, so there's no issues there. This side that you're looking at right here is pretty much property line based, and Mr. Thompson and us agreed that we would replace that glass with fire-rated glazing on this side of the building, and only on this side, the other three sides are clear, they're fine, based on separation distance. Thank you, and that's really outside of our purview. I think it's a prudent question, but we assume that the official adventurer's diction has reviewed this, and you're reviewing it with them, and that the fire codes are met, but thank you. We've met a number of times about a number of issues that we have. And just so you know, there's only one current, currently only one exit stair in this building. How I got built that way, I don't know, but we can't do that now because today, but we're adding a whole another set of stairs inside the building, cutting a hole down through the whole building, and adding another set of stairs. So we'll have two stairs. There are gonna be 10 guest rooms per floor, nine floors of that, so that's 90 guest rooms. The ground floor level is all lobby and dining, a kitchen and offices, and the basement is fitness room, meeting room, laundry, some ancillary spaces. It actually works pretty well to get everything in. Little tights, it's sort of like a boutique holiday in. Yes, sir? I have a point of interest. I think the general had a call. He had a what? He had a vault. Yes, sir, it's there. Can you show me where it is on the floor? If it's on the ground floor, I don't know if we have any floor plan. I don't remember if I gave you that. I'm not the ground floor, excuse me. It's in the basement. Well, if you go back and show the rendering, if you turned off of Washington Street and went down that side alley between the parking garage and the building. It's in the first floor on the basement. It's in the basement. And it's all the way in the back right corner of the basement. So the furthest corner from where we're standing here looking at this rendering, it's in that bottom corner of the basement. I don't think it has a vault door on it anymore, does it? Yes. Oh, it still does, okay. It's not one of those beautiful vaults with the big, beautiful door that you would like to maybe have a cocktail lounge in. I didn't know if you were gonna try to save it. It's not gonna be reused for anything glamorous. It's gonna be a linen storage closet. It's not in a good location. If it would have been up on the upper floor, we could have maybe done something like that. Any questions that pertain specifically to our purview? Signage, both the upper sign and the street level parapet sign. Is that backlit or internal lighting? And this could be for you as staff either way. Well, we're gonna comply with whatever the ordinances and regulations are regarding that. I think that the Holiday Inn sign up high there is backlit if I'm not mistaken. But I don't recall what the regulations are. For city center, you can do either halo illuminated. They can't be individually illuminated channel letters. First, this will get a sign permit at some point. Right now it's sort of just an indication of where the signage will go. Then there are skyline provisions. And I forget how many floors it has to be, but for signs that are on the top of a tall office building, they can be internally illuminated just because that's the only way they'd be visible. So I don't think we've gotten to that point yet. But they'll certainly have to comply with the design guidelines. Okay, thank you. Good question. So if there were for some reason some aspect where they were not intended to comply with the design guidelines, that particular aspect of the project could come back to the DDRC, right? Right, right, right, right. Okay, very good, thank you. Any other comments or questions? Craig, again, I would say, and I would really place this original building, even though it was built in 1954, really more almost as a international style, just in terms of the architectural language. And what's been interesting, as you say, lately in the past 25 years is to watch architects reinterpret the international style with a higher degree of detail, which I think this does well. And especially given the limitations that come with some of the renovations that have been done. I think this takes it back in an interpretive way to the original intent in a very interesting way. For me, it's interesting, looking at the historic photos, you can see the value of a design development or review commission when you see what's not there in the context of this building any longer. But I think this is a commendable proposal for revitalizing what was a pretty good international style building in its own right. And in my opinion, improves upon that original design. So I think this is a good thing for the neighborhood. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that compliment. And if you go by there and look at it as it exists now, you'll drive right about, you won't see it. It just blends in like you wouldn't believe. You wouldn't even notice that. It looks like the parking garage next door. There you go. So to give it a new life, sir? I have been noticing it every day. Okay, good. Well, now you do, right? Architects always notice that when it looks like it had a lot of potential. Yeah, so I think it's gonna give it a new life, that's for sure. Thank you. Thank you. Would somebody like to make a motion? I'll make a motion again. All right. Thank you. For 1233 Washington Street, I want to recommend approval of your request. According to the staff, I have the proposal substantially meets the guidelines in session 5.9. I recommend, the staff recommend approval of your request. Of course. Or actually your changes. Oh, that's what it is. Okay. I'm making a motion to set the guidelines and to recommend approval of your request of your actual changes. 1233 Washington Street. I'm gonna start over. I want to recommend approval of the request. The staff finds that the proposal substantially meets the guidelines in session 5.9. Building addition, renovation and demolition of the city and a design development for the exterior conditions. To 1233 Washington Street. That is 1233 Washington Street. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Bogg Knight. Yes. Mr. Broom. Yes. Mr. Daniel. Ms. Fuller-Wilt. Yes. Mr. Nguyen. Yes. Mr. Savery. Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. And I believe we have other business. Thank you. Thank you. So the other business, I guess we need somebody to make a motion. Oh, yeah. You want to introduce our other business then I'll ask for a motion. I guess that the other business is to go into executive session. So if y'all want to do that and then we'll come back here to adjourn the meeting after that. And we have, you'll see here, specific language suggested for the motion. If somebody would like to read this motion and then we'll take a vote. Second? Take a vote. I can read it. I make a motion that the DDRC go into executive session for the receipt of legal advice relating to those claims as stated in the agenda pursuant to South Carolina Code section 30-4-70A2. Is there a second? Assuming no discussion, could we have a vote please? Mr. Bogg-Knight. Mr. Broom. Mr. Daniel. Ms. Fuller-Wilt. Yes. Mr. Nguyen. Yes. Mr. Savery. Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. We'll go into executive session now. Don't know exactly what the procedure is but we're going to come out of executive session now and no action was taken. So I think with that we'll just... Okay. Could I have a motion to come out of this? Second? Second. Do we need a vote? Can we just do that? All in favor? Yes. Aye. Okay, with that then could I have a motion to adjourn? All in... Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. Meeting adjourned.