 Okay, Scott, it's yours. Good evening. Thank you all for joining us today. I hate to read the titles, but just for official for the recording, this is the Lake Country Drive, Water and Sewer Improvements Community Design Meeting. Of course, that means that we are still in the design stage. We have reached 90 percent. However, we still have a few items that we need to complete before we start advertising this project. Let me get started with the direction we're going. Agenda, we'll do introductions here in a moment. We're going to do a project overview. We're going to show you the project area. We'll go through some frequently asked questions that we get at these meetings and then we'll discuss a little bit about the timeline. To introduce myself, my name is Scott Taylor. I am the project manager for the City of Fort Worth. The engineering design consultant is Paul Dussett, who is on the call with us and Paul is very familiar with this project by now. He should be. Why are we doing this improvement project? I think that's a very good place to start this type of thing. The city tends to prioritize its replacing of water and sewer lines that have a high risk of failure. Now, a lot of times risk of failure is not just based on, hey, we had a water main break there, but it's determined based on a lot of other data and water main break histories, number one, and then leak history. Then we also have close circuit TV inspection, particularly on our sanitary sewer lines. And that's where we get a lot of information there. Age of the line is very critical line material. If there's lead services, we have not come across any lead services on that we have had identified on this project. And then cast iron lines are another area that we also look at replacing. So why are we doing this improvements now? Well, the majority of these water mains and sewer mains were installed back in the 1970s. So as you can guess, we're approaching 50 plus years life on the water and on the sewer. We also, and one of the other reasons we're doing this is we're upsizing the sanitary sewer line from it's a six inch now or a predominantly six inch. And we're going to go with an eight inch diameter sewer line. We have a couple of other areas where we'll have some larger diameter lines, but those are closer to the lift station that's on Lake Country Drive. So give you an idea of the project scope. And basically here's this kind of a map that shows everything that's in black is where we're either replacing water and sewer, water only. And I don't think we're doing any sewer only. And so you can see we have a few cul-de-sacs on this project that we're going to be doing that. So basically defining it is Sky Lake Drive and Eagle Mountain Lake to the west, Dozier Creek and Boat Club Road to the north, Lake Country Christian School to the east and then the golf and golf courts drive to the south. And I was just out there yesterday, by the way, driving this project again. So our project area again is the Lake Country, continuing that Lake Country Drive from Golf Club Drive to Trail Ridge Drive. And in that area, we are replacing water and sewer. Trail Ridge Drive from Lake Country Drive to the cul-de-sac is water. Lake Highlands Court from Lake Country Drive to the cul-de-sac. We're doing water and sewer there. And then on Plaza Ridge Court from Lake Country Drive to the cul-de-sac, we also are doing water and sewer. And then on the Regents Court cul-de-sac, we'll be doing water and sewer. And then on the Heatherwood Court, the only thing we're replacing there is sanitary sewer. So now a question that's going to come up, and particularly for those individuals that live on cul-de-sacs. We will have your water turned off for about 15 to 30 minutes when we transfer the existing service line to a temporary water line. And we will have a temporary water line in place while we're doing replacing the old line. And then we will shut it down again when the contractor has done all his testing, back teeing and all of that on the new water line. Then we will put the service back. We will put your service back to the new line. And these switchovers are done during the day. And you will be notified by the contractor since down here a little below. He'll knock on your door and let you know when your water is going to be turned on and off. He also may put hangers. If nobody answers the door, he may put door hangers out so that you can, you know, doubling and keeping that information going. And it generally takes about 30 minutes per house to do the transfer service and they're done one at a time. So now the next question that comes up quite a bit. How does the temporary line impact my home and water bill? Well, a temporary water line ensures that you're not without water during the construction period. In the summer months, the continuous flow keeps the water from becoming stagnant in the above ground line. And that's important as we know. During the winter months, water must continually flow through the temporary line to keep the line from freezing. So we ask that any customers that have is on this temporary line that in the winter months as it gets colder that they allow their faucets to drip. Now, the bill for your water usage while you're on the temporary line is based on an average of the previous month's use. So it's not your meter we're basically disconnected from the meter or your services disconnected from the meter. So our utility billing group will base that on average of previous months. It'll be an average bill. So will we need access to your property? The construction that we're performing will be done in the streets and easements. If Fort Worth water needs access to your property we will contact you. If an easement is needed for your property a city land agent will be contacting you soon. Based on where the level we're at in design we do not believe we need any new easements for this project. So that one will not be that hopefully we will not run into that during construction or prior to opening beds that we had to get an easement but we believe we're working totally within existing easements or straight right away. Will sewer service be disrupted? No, your sanitary sewers will not be interrupted. New sewer cleanouts will be installed at the property line. When we replace the sewer line we put in new service lines and we will put a clean out right at the property line. And the reason we have put the sewer clean out at the property line it provides cruise easy access if a backup or blockage occurs. So we have the ability to get there much more quickly or start working on the sewer line. Now, will I have access to my driveway during construction? We will have an inspector assigned to this project and when we're ready to start construction the inspector and the contractor will work with the residents who need driveway access during active construction hours. And yes, since we are working in the street then we have driveways that come right out on the street or onto the cul-de-sac. There could be times that when if the excavation works being done the driveway might be blocked. But we only wanna do that during construction hours. And at the end of the day we wanna make sure we leave access to the driveways when the contractor completes his work each day. And that will be a point of discussion with the contractor in the pre-construction meeting. So how am I gonna coordinate traffic during construction? Well, you see there one of the things that we always worry about are we gonna impact schools or churches or public facilities? We will have a control plan in place before the contractor starts work. That is an item that we are still working on because the next item is we're still working with the Eagle Mountain Independent School District concerning bus routes. If they have a bus route that will have some impact on our construction. Times as we wanna make sure we leave as much access as possible and then also where if they're using buses where are the students picked up by that bus? Is it are they at one location, two locations, three locations? So we will have a meeting with the school district to assure or get if they have bus route there that we address that in our specifications and therefore keep the contractor informed as to what we may have to do handling traffic flow. Now, the next item I think that always becomes important on some of these projects is will the city's trash truck be able to pick up my trash and recycling during construction? So if we have closed part of the street and your trash is on that side of the street that's closed the contractor is responsible to take your trash container put it on the other side of the street both your recycle and your normal trash and to make sure that it's picked up on the day that it's picked up and that is again another items that are put in the contractor will be in our details and then also will be also in our specifications that they're responsible for making sure of that. Will there be lane closures during construction? Yes, I can almost assure you that there'll be signs out there. Now it may not be a full width of the street closure. Of course, if we did that, we would have to put it details. However, a lot of these will be because I know where the water line is going down Lake country, we'll probably have part of that blocked off while they're doing the work. Now again, we will work with a contractor to minimize that the amount of road that they need to take. Same thing will go with the sanitary sewer when we're replacing it there. Now, cul-de-sacs, again, we still need to leave access to driveways as much as possible except for when there might be some periods when we actually have the driveway blocked. But again, at the end of the day, we should have every driveway back open and the cul-de-sac would be back open and the street may be open partially. Again, if we've got an open trench or anything like that, which we generally don't like to have at the end of the day, we'll have that barricaded off. So you still may see some lane closed signs or traffic control signs up even after the construction is done for the day. So that leads me to the next one. What are their construction hours? City of Fort Worth's requirements are 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Friday. We have a little different criteria if we have a school zone, an active school zone. Times are a little different, but that's Monday through Friday. And if the contractor requests to work on Saturdays, and that's, he cannot work on Sundays, it's usually they're 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. or 5 p.m. on Saturdays. And a lot of times that becomes a discussion between our inspector and the contractor as to what they're gonna be doing and how much impact it might have for traffic, particularly on Saturdays. So the timeline, well, as stated, since we call them design, the project's still in the design phase. We expect to design, finalize the design, advertise for bids, and select a contractor during late summer or early fall of 2023. So they anticipate a large portion of this construction will occur in the fall time period, we haven't talked about the number of days yet on this project, but I would, you know, it may take some time because of the amount of cul-de-sac work we have to do, waterline replacing and things like that. But we'll have a much better ideal as we get closer and finish our, get our final plans ready for bidding. If at the point when we've got the contract awarded and we get a contractor on board, we will have another community meeting, the community construction meeting, and we'll do that before the construction starts. And at that meeting, you'll have both the city staff, our design engineer, and we will have the contractor also participate in that as he can answer some of the questions of how he's gonna approach these items, the various items that we have to deal with. So now, where can you get more information? Well, first place is go to www.fortworthtexas.gov and type the project number. And the project number for this project is 103-418. And if you put that in the search bar, it will go right to the construction project page, which is the Lake Country Drive Water and Sewer Improvements and it should come right up. If you wanna get project page updates, there's a place on that screen that you're on. You can scroll down to the bottom of the project page and subscribe on this page. So anytime a notice is posted or anything gets update is made, it will be added to that site and it should pop up. And then there will be a PDF of the PowerPoint we're making right now and then it will be a PDF of the construction. And then you can link this to a YouTube video, which will also be posted on the project page. So now this is a question that I think is good, even if nothing happens during our construction but is numbers to call an emergency. So if you have a sewer backup or you see a water main break or leaks, we do have a 24 hour a day response group. Their number is the same in two cases but you select option one, it goes directly to who's on call that night. It's 817-392-4477 and select option one. And that is for main breaks and things like that. Now we had the Water Call Center is for non-emergencies and it's a staff from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Monday through Friday. Again, it has the same number but if you just let it ring, it will get the options. If you don't select option one, it will roll over to the Water Call Center. Now we also, there's a My FW app and it's available in the App Store or Google Play and you can report sewer overflows, leaks and water main breaks, missing lids or broken lids, water theft if you see anybody stealing water, water violations, no water service, water pressure issues or other sewer concerns. You can actually use that app to send that information in and it is responded to also. So again, just to let you think, my name is Scott Taylor. My phone number is 817-392-7240 and I can be reached at scott.tayloratfortworthtexas.gov. And then again, if I get tied up and you ask a question, I can't answer, I'll call Paul because Paul's the design guy, he should know what they're doing and he does. And so I've worked with Paul before. So, but we can get, if you have any questions anytime and I know a lot of them will happen during construction. That's usually when I get more phone calls is during the construction period. And we, again, some things happen that we're not aware of that we're gonna run into during the construction. So anyway, so I thank y'all for your participation or thank y'all for listening to me and I guess now Sally will take questions. We don't have anything in the chat. So if you have a question, jump right up. Larissa. Oh, you're on mute Larissa. Larissa, you're muted. There you go. Am I unmuted? Okay. Now I can hear you. Okay, how long is the projected timeline of this? Is it gonna be like a year, six months? I mean, it seems like a really big project. Yeah, I would guess, and this is just now because one of the things we'll be discussing here in the next month or so is the number of days that we'll put in the, for the bid document. I would expect, I'm off the top of my head given that we may have some starts and stops as we're doing, you know, cul-de-sac here. I would say 210 to probably 290 days. So we're looking basically probably nine month, nine month frame. And again, I may be optimistic on that because there's been issues that we've had recently that are not affecting construction. It's getting material delivered for the project like valves and water line and sewer line and manholes. We've had some issues on other projects on delivery time. But I would say nine months would be the target date. But, you know, again, that's just a guess right now. We wanna minimize the time we're there. I mean, we clearly wanna get in and out. But just sometimes, yes, and it is a large project. You know, for a neighborhood. I mean, that's a lot of us, a lot of things to do. And we're gonna be on, basically, we're gonna have one main street. There's gonna be construction going on it, almost the entire length. So. Okay. Does anybody mind if I ask one more? Go ahead. No, okay. On the notice that we got, it shows that it's traveling towards a golf club drive in Prentis. And when you guys were talking about space, you were showing the schools, which are, you know, a mile in the other direction. Or half a mile in the other direction, I can't remember which. So are you actually gonna be past? Cause I mean, my call to sec is the starting point or the finishing point. And you showed it going the other direction. So do we only have a partial map showing or is it gonna go up towards the schools? No, no, no, the lines shown on the drawing is correct. They took a picture of the school, more as an example of things that we have to worry about, traffic impacts, like using Lake Country Drive as that for impact. But no, we're not going that, we're not going that direction. But yeah, we're going the other direction. So we're basically just working along that. But no, the school, we're not going towards the school. Would you have two questions from Jeff and Cherie? Did you wanna, I can tell it to him if you want me to. Are you unmuted? Sorry, hang on a second. Okay, the questions in chat are, I missed the start date. Can you go back to the timeline? Scott, sorry, you missed it. Yeah, so the timeline is that we were expecting to finalize our design, advertise for bids and select a contractor during late summer or early fall of 2023. So going on the sense that I generally know that these projects, it takes us, evidently we try to estimate earlier, but I think we will start this sometime in the fall of 2023, which means that we would actually roll over if we went the nine months, which I anticipate, we're gonna roll into 2024 in the winter. And hopefully winter and spring, we'd be done by the end of spring in 2024. Now, and that's the timeline today. And again, that's subject to change. And when we have the construction neighborhood meeting, neighborhood meeting will be, we will have a definitive schedule at that point because we will have the contractor will have supplied us a schedule so we can give you more information. Okay, Scott, they have a second question. Jeff and Cherie, I put them saying your name correctly. Work from home and they need to be able to come and go throughout the day. Will they be able to do that during construction? Yes, they will. And again, one of the things we will do is we will work with the city inspector and the contractor for access. And there may be a period. I can't imagine how long it would be, but if there's a period, like if it's a water service we're installing or something like that, but we will. We also will maintain traffic open. We do not plan to close any street, particularly Lake Country Drive, because it's a major. So we will have traffic signs up and we may have lanes blocked, but we will work with each of the homeowners to assure that we minimize any disruption to their house or to their driveways. Okay, and Randy, you said you have a quick question. Yeah, I have a quick one. So I'm Randy Ball and I'm in the Glen Eagle subdivision and in the emails that I've been getting, you've been specifically calling out Glen Eagles, but you don't really come into our neighborhood. You're really close. We're down by the corner of golf club in Lake Country, but I don't see that you're coming into our neighborhood. No, I don't think we are, but we also notify the surrounding areas because if people come up and use Lake Country Drive a lot, we just wanna make sure everybody's aware there's construction there. And we actually will put a construction sign at the roughly at the ends of each project. That gets very difficult to do, but we will have the contractor define where the construction area is, but that's the reason it is mentioned is we just wanna make sure the surround, not only the people that are gonna be directly impacted, but other people that use those streets are aware of the construction. Okay, and these 15 to 30 minute outages you were talking about each house might have, that's not gonna impact us. No, not at all. No, because the outages will be at their individual meter, not the whole system. I can elaborate on what Scott was saying. I know where I live, there's just more than one way out, but people have, there's certain route they wanna have the neighborhood. So we always wanna make sure that we're letting everybody know in the vicinity of it, that there's gonna be construction and there may be some street closures. So that's why we always kinda over notify people. All right, Chris, you asked, are they also going to replace the road surface? That is the one item that we have not completed yet. In fact, I've had a discussion with my supervisor yesterday and when he comes back, we will, you will probably see people that live along Lake Country Drive. You'll probably see a vehicle out there that will be taking samples of the road surface. So we can determine the level of road paving that we might have to do after we've completed all the utility work. So I don't have an answer for that yet, but there is a, there's probably a good possibility. We will be doing some paving work in that area. I just don't know. I can't define the scope of that just yet. Okay, that's all we have in the chat. Do y'all have some more questions for Scott? Yes, I do. Okay, Fred, go for it. Yeah, this is Fred Villareal. I live in Sunset Cove. So it's at the bottom of the hill. I walk through the loop around Golf Club and Lake Country pretty much every morning. I notice water coming up through the pavement on Lake Country as well as Golf Club. Generally, is the sewer and water lines down the middle of the road? Basically four lanes wide. Are you going to take out the full four lanes or are you just talking about the equivalent one lane thereabouts? In actuality, based on the record or the GIS system, most of those lines are out of the drive lanes. I mean, and I drove, when I drive through there, I was going, that's a four lane road, but they're on the outside where the white stripe is. So the sewer and water appear not to be in the travel lanes. Now, again, and that's just based on GIS system. And I think Paul's guys did a lot of surveying. So they really think it's on the sides. And if we did that, we probably would not have to close the whole street. We still should have the ability to get people to pass, even if we have to rearrange some of the traffic flow there, but right now I don't anticipate that we should have any full street closures unless there's the only provision I'll put on that is if it's determined that we need to do a street reconstruction on that, and then that changes a little bit. But right now I'm only interested in looking what's over our sewer and water line, but it's on the sides. It is closer to the curb. Okay, now that's good to go and know. And then there are some residents that parked their vehicles overnight. Yes. On the side lanes they'll have to deal with, okay. Yeah, and there may have, you know, you may see orange barricade or maybe barricades and cones out in some areas at night. But that's, you know, and I appreciate that question because that's one that I have, we have been discussing a little bit is how much of the street work are we gonna really have to do on this project? I have another question. Being at the bottom of the hill, everything slides downhill and we have a lift station right there at Sunset Cove. I've lived there since the lift station was replaced. Of course I've got some things about the lift station, but I seem to remember there were some sewage spills that occurred during the replacement that lift station ended up in Eagle Mountain Lake. Will there be provisions to deal with sewage spills during construction to keep sewage out of the lake? Yes, yes, we will have language if we don't already have it in some of our standard phrases, but we will require the contractor to avoid spilling sewage, shall we say. And it may include him having to build a dyke or something like that. We don't anticipate that we're gonna have that issue, hopefully, because we're still discussing, there's means and methods of the construction itself. And hopefully we can avoid, the only thing that we might have to do is some bypass pumping and we would go manhole to manhole with that and hopefully avoid any sewage escaping the area and getting into the lake. But that is something that we pay close attention to. I appreciate it, nobody plans to have a spill. Yeah, no, no. It's more of what do you do to mitigate it? Yeah, and usually it's get a bunch of dirt out there in a hurry and then start working on the repair is to build a dam and then take care of it from there. But again, this will be information that we will discuss with our contractor when we get him on board is some of the items that he needs to be aware of that have occurred out there previously. Sure, and I believe based on the scope that's defined in this presentation, you are not touching the lift station. No. You're all lying into the station. Yeah, all we're doing is replacing a line and tying into the lift station itself. So we're not working on the lift station itself. Okay, thank you. Okay, Larissa, did you want to bring up your question about groundwater? No, I was trying to answer someone else's about the street because I have groundwater that comes out of the street in front of my house as well. And I had the water department come out and test it to make sure it wasn't city water and it wasn't. We've got a big problem with that. Now, my question was more actually twofold. One, I own the lot adjacent to my home and it's just a tree lot and there's a fire hydrant on the corner. They tap into it, I watched people do it yesterday to fill up trucks for the construction across the street from me. So will they be affecting the fire hydrant on the corner of my property? If so, what will that entail? And two, if you're going to be running through the winter months, having water piped across the ground when we have problems with freezing water, how are we going to keep that? I mean, that's really, you know, it's bad enough for dripping your faucets because it's 19 degrees outside. If it's 19 degrees outside and your water is above ground rather than underground, what happens if we freeze it or lost because of it? Cause it's going to make the water all that much colder coming to the house. So what if it tracks the line? Well, that we addressed. A lot of the reason my comment was we want to keep the water flowing through the pipe because flowing water, it has to get very cold to freeze moving water. And if we have to, we can come up with some other options of how to handle that, anything we can do to keep. And maybe, and I know it's been done before, we've actually buried temporary water line, but that tears up more street and possibly try, and still we're trying to minimize yard tear, but we, that's something we'll discuss with the contractor. And also it may be that we point out those that are like that, the temporary services, ones where we have to have temporary services, you address those first, whereas the main water line in the street, you know, it flows, you know, it's bigger diameter, it's deeper, you know, it's already got some freeze protection that way. So there's some options there to, if we get into the cold months that we made this, the cul-de-sacs may get done before the main line gets done, just to address some of those potential concerns of freezing. Okay. And what about the fire hydrant? The fire hydrant, the contractor may use the fire hydrant to fill his water trucks up with, but- Yeah, no, not that, I wondered if it was gonna be re-piped, like are you gonna be messing with the fire hydrant along with the lines of the regular water? Is it all tied in? Is it tied in? Yes, well, the same water, the same lines you get your water from go to that fire hydrant. So they'll be shutting it off and on as well. But, well, again, they may dig up around it. They may dig up around it, and we have to reconnect the fire hydrant. We also need to check that fire hydrant, I don't know what's age, sometimes we replace the fire hydrant, but again, that would be done in non-winter months or in a non-freezing environment, but there's potential that that fire hydrant, we will have to run new line to the fire hydrant. Okay, that was my question. I didn't care who used it, just the fact that it is a working fire hydrant, and will it be- There will be a period in which a short period while they tie that fire hydrant back in to the new line, it'll be out of service. Okay. Okay, we've got actually a statement from Jeff and Cherie. They said they have two underground springs on their property, and it's runoff gonna be a problem. Jeff, if you wanna talk about it? I guess my question. All right, hello, hold on. There you go. Are you there? Yes, yes. We've got a sun in the background that makes a lot of noise, so that's why we've been here. Don't worry about it. Okay, so I know that the underground springs are not tied into the water stuff, I know that. Right. So it did kinda worry me though, because we do get pretty flooded. So is there gonna be a time where these pipes will be, for some reason, I don't know, is there gonna be any runoff from all this stuff? No, the only runoff you should see from this project will be rainfall. The contractor's responsible basically every day. He's required to cover everything that he's excavated in that day. And the only thing I could see would be a catastrophic failure of a water line and it starts spraying, which I don't think will happen. But no, at the end of the day, he needs to button up his trench, and unless we get some leaks, I don't expect any runoff from the construction. Okay, and they'll let us know if they're gonna be tearing up a yard. Yes, if they need to get in your yard, you will, again, our city inspector and the contractor will contact everybody if they're gonna get in the yard. They're required to do that. Y'all may be the same company or not, I don't know, but we had people drilling holes looking at the pipes probably last fall, and they came off close to a very important tree in our yard. Well, I don't know anything about that. But no, we won't be, we should not be doing any drilling. We should have a backhoe that is working on a water line that's in either the street or in an easement. Okay. And that's their area, confined area of work. Okay, I've seen that happen before, yeah, I get that. So, and no, we certainly will not get in your yard. The only thing we might ever have to get in the yard is if we have to, when we put in a new service line, that's the only thing, and that's nothing, that's a two-inch line or a four-inch line. Right, right. So, no, we should not be around drilling around your trees or anything like that or working around trees, particularly on your property. Now, will this ever, sorry, one more question I think. Will this ever compromise the, what's the word? What's the word? The water quality? Pressure? Mom, I'm not talking pressure. I'm just talking about the quality of your springs. No, I'm talking about quality of the water out of the tap. Is this going to compromise any of that? No, no, it will not. In fact, we're required, and you will, this is another thing that we haven't covered and we'll talk more about this, probably the construction is, they're required to flush and then disinfect and flush and then pull a sample to make sure it meets the state of Texas requirements for drinking water. Okay, because I know we had some work done on the main line there in our yard, so we had to pay for it, which is fine, but they got a lot of dirt in it and it clogged up our sinks and brand new bathroom remodel and it clogged up everything. No, ma'am, before they actually tie your new service in, they have to make sure that that water meets all city and state criteria. Okay, okay. And that requires them to flush, so you may see some dirty water running down the street, but that's being flushed out of the system before we go back and start hooking up services. Okay, okay, thank you. Okay, we've got a question from Jane. She said, so this isn't a four-lane road, it's a two-lane road with a bike lane, so she wants to know if it's going to affect the bike lane. That's a good question. Well, I will tell you that if it is, if there's one area, well, there's areas where the water line is and somewhere the sewer line is, that that lane will probably be impacted from bikes just because of where the water line is and where the sewer line is, it is actually over in that area, based on what I've seen going out to the project site. So, yes, there is an impact that some of the bicycle lanes will be impacted. Okay, I, oh, wait a second, we got another question. All right. Liz, one more question. What's the notation for the planning? The trail range cork cul-de-sac, the water, you hit a spring of water and within a few feet of the digging. Oh, it's immediate. The water over here is you dig and water flows in from the sides of the hole when you get about two feet down. Okay, contractor will have to handle that flow. And pump it out. And pump it out, yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they will have to deal and if that means they have to put a pump, dig a hole and put a pump in to pump water out while they're installing the water line, that's what they'll have to do. And that's something, well, so we can talk about that in our pre-construction, our pre-construction. This is not the Chris talk. I might want to ask him about that. Okay, okay, I've missed someone's question. So Chris wants to know how deep the water and sewer lines are. I'd say the water line is probably three to four feet deep, maybe a little deeper. The sewer line, the depth vary since it's a gravity line, it gets deeper as it approaches that lift station. And it could be as much as nine to 10 feet deep, maybe even 12 foot deep. So again, again, there'll be trench safety requirements. And so it'll probably be, you'll probably see some boxes and things like that from a trench safety standpoint. But yes, we try the water line is, should be, I'd say three to four feet deep or that much cover over it, but the sewer line is deeper because it is falling. It's going that direction towards that lift station. We say again, what we're doing with the lift station. We're doing nothing with the lift station. We have a pipe that we're replacing outside of the lift station with a larger diameter pipe and tying it back into a pipe that's coming from the lift station. Okay. We are not, we're not working on the lift station itself. Okay. All right. Those are all questions in the chat, Larissa. Oh yeah, I had one more, it came to mind. And now that it's my turn, it's going away. Where was it? Oh, Dagnabbit. Sewer lift stations. It was, oh, being on the end or the beginning, will, when the project is going on, will they complete a section and move on or will it be, will the cul-de-sac be tore up from start to finish and they fix it all at the same time it's the end? Okay. So that's a good question because I will tell you how I normally would guess the contractor would do this is that he will go cul-de-sac by cul-de-sac, place the water line and do the services. He will then temporary backfill everything because he's going to have a separate contractor come in and do the asphalt work. And it's easier if they do those all at the same time, all at once. So we may have cul-de-sacs that need to be paved that are done and then he's going to bring his asphalt contractor in to do that or, and I'm guessing it's asphalt, so. But they do the work, they replace the pipe, they take away the temporary one and they move on. Yes, they move on and that'll be the, and then they'll bring, they have to, basically it's, they'll have two or three crews. One is the water guy, one's the sewer guy and one's the paving guy. And the paving guy's usually the last guy on the project. Now that could be changed because, you know, we discussed that and maybe they want to come in and pave, they want to finish with the cul-de-sac and they come in and do that cul-de-sac when it's done and then wait for the next one. I don't know. That gets also into the means and methods of the con with the contractor. Yeah, I was more worried about the, the temporary water line is being exposed for nine months. Now the temporary water line, once the new water line's in, it passes back T, we're tying your new services in. When they go on. Yes. Okay, okay, okay. And actually the lot adjacent to me that I own has a meter on it, but no home. So I assume that they'll also take care of that meter even though- If there's a- I don't think there's anything in that box now that I think about it. So if there's a service line going to that meter box, they would replace that service line. But if there's nothing in it, they will not put the meter in. There will not, nothing will be done. No. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. Nope, that's it for me. She guys have some great questions. Yes, she did. I think that's the best meeting we've had in a long time. Okay. It's all scary. It's all scary. Hey Sally, you beat the one in which we've sat there for five minutes and nobody showed up and no questions. Oh my goodness. True. That's true. Okay, Scott, can you go back to the page that shows page 18? Oh, okay. Thank you. I'm glad you got that number. Yes, that right there. Yeah. Where I can get more information. So as to where that, how to type it in, it'll probably still show the meeting. So you want to click on the one that just says project page. And remember if you scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page, you can click on subscribe to this page. Now someone asked me yesterday because I was updating the pages and they said, well, can't you tell us what you updated? Our web provider doesn't do that. It just tells you there is an update. So you kind of have to look at it and go, well, did they change the timeline? Did they change the status? Did they, but it doesn't tell you what was changed. It just tells you the page was updated. Okay. So our best way for information. Yes. If you can, this is Thursday. We should have the video. We turn this WebEx presentation into a YouTube video. We should have that up by Monday. And I should be able to get a PDF of this PowerPoint up there by tomorrow. Thanks Sally, I'll show my kids what I actually do for a living. Thank you everybody, appreciate it. Thank you. Thank y'all. Have a great weekend. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.