 Okay, so I'm here with the battle developers and just as a bit of context It's a midnight and I sent them a message like 20 minutes ago saying can we meet like right now and they were like Yes, let's do this. So Thank you Surely, thank you for that and the first question that I have for you is obviously As somebody that has never used battles before What is battles like if you open up battles you might ask, okay What do I do now exactly? Okay Hi, everybody. I'm Pietro With me there is Mirko Hi Do you want to answer I answer we prepared nothing, right? So I Mean it's midnight I love I love Bottles is just an application to run Windows software on Linux This is the the best Explanation I can I can drop about it Yeah So this is similar to wine to some extent. What's the exact difference? It and it use basically wine Yep, and what's like the difference why using battles to handle wine? But also helps you to How to make Many steps you should perform manually to be sure of software runs for example To run some 10 apps you need the autonet framework this is redistributable and other dependencies just even fonts for example and You should install all those Dependencies manually running with wine to ensure everything is set properly Bottles provides you an easy way Thanks to our press set environments for example to manage the installation of those components via one click install thanks to our catalog and and Most importantly helps you to manage the wine prefixes a Short description is for a wine prefix is an area where One or more applications are living together So imagine a wine prefix as the standard Windows structure see programs see Windows System registry and son so a prefixes like a Windows environment where you put all your software with this management you are Easily allowed to install multiple softwares that have different dependencies that if on Windows Somehow in the back end is automatically managed via wine you could incur in conflicts for example two different apps May require two different versions of Some kind of framework where Those versions of the framework can't be installed in the same wine area Because it's not managed properly by wine itself or by a framework itself So splitting in prefixes you have set of software that doesn't break running different software Yep, okay understood. So I know that you recently gave this talk at LAS. How did it go? Was it fun? It Was absolutely fun. I enjoyed it a lot It was your first first talk, right? Not really was first talk for Linux for Linux was first talk of The topic and the topic itself And was a lot different with other Times I spoke to a crowd So Was kind of new to me and That's been Well, as I said really funny The result I'm to be honest. I'm not 100% satisfied about the performance itself I made some mistake. I also say that we use GTK to build wine that is Because was The chrony me use the same three letters, but in a different order and well speaking I say Yeah, we use GTK tool to build wine and while seeing it. I was like, oh wait It's not GTK them But I continued I don't remember the correct order What I'm saying KTJ something There is a lot of improvement for sure But I have to say The result is astonishing What happened later? Just the talk was just before lunch was the last one before lunch so Time to get some food and I met a Lot of people asking for Something about bottles What our next plans what we want to do our ideas Or also just to say great up so During the talk I asked anybody help for OS 3 integration or alternatives to OS 3 and immediately I got in touch with a guy who wants to help with it. So Useful in the end really really useful for the project and Probably I don't know if it is the best thing but the most Visible result is our entrance in the GNOME foundation as members Yeah, I said that that was really I mean technically speaking as a kitty developer I should say something like oh no, don't do that, but I mean I Mean when I said that I actually was very happy for the project because especially because I said application And I said that there were actually a lot of Requests from the GNOME developer saying that a lot of things had to be changed and then you actually do that did that in like one day Yes, so basically on the Sunday We so the feedback what was Mirko like midnight on Sunday, so just Was Monday since few minutes basically I may write Mirko was was around that time More or less we were going to sleep when I don't remember who of us so that there was an answer So we didn't went to sleep anymore We started reading and Mirko was ready to press shut down then yeah Mirko was ready to press shut down on the PC and I started reading and While I was reading the comments. I was hearing Mirko mad and mad and mad it was like It was a bit scarred about it because because basically the Request they issue on get the club has been sent one year ago from Mirko Okay, and only last week before last Someone got assigned to the issue just just before last someone has been assigned and During the last I complained with the GNOME people about the speed of the GNOME circle So we received this answer on Sunday and Was It's there. It's very very very long with a lot of comments and Mirko Inside was saying I waited one year one complete year to get a kilometer of complaint So But and it worked out though you managed it Yeah, he he preferred I put an answer I provided the first answer on the ticket because I wanted to point out immediately some technical limit and sadly that Tester was not using the latest version of the software. So some complain Was already solved in the last version that was published days before Because was the 28, you know, we have the release the 14th and the 28 so Was using not the latest release, but the one before and So and these added the madness in Mirko understand In the end after this comment that was was beginning with a quick and not exhaustive comment So was to say, okay, let's let's point out something then we'll continue We went to sleep and I work for a company. I was in office Monday while Mirko was at home and And During the then probably is the first thing you did that morning to read again the the common Mirko Yes, was it your coffee? No No, okay. I just do know my PC and start reading all the issue and Praying So let's say that Having slept Quite well, you never sleep well, but let's say you slept at least So I was working it was in the office and Mirko started the texting me about the feedback and In the end Being agree with who did the review because in the end the comment was not Stupid was not useless so Putting aside I waited one year for this feedback He took the feedback for what it is as an analysis of the software of the application and Since nine in the morning, I believe Mirko started working on it or less nine in the morning. Was it it Mirko? Yeah The first thing I Yeah, I Don't know okay, anyway, let's say about nine in the morning and During the day she texts me sent screenshot publish something on here on the escort or on telegram so started spreading out Screenshots questions asking more feedback from the community to understand. Okay. This is what circle is saying but what is the community say because I Want as much feedback as possible. So in the end the community was aligned with the circle request. I Go home after work in the evening. I was like I Went on the escort, I believe at the 7 p.m. I get in touch with Mirko and continue with him working on on the feedbacks and We started discussing on Everything we read everything once more once more once more once more until at about One a.m. in the night we run The build process on flat hub So We received the feedback around midnight. We saw it a midnight We slept a few hours and from 9 in the morning to 1 a.m. in the morning Mirko mainly and together in the evening go went through all the entire feedback to fix Everything possible as soon as possible There is still still some missing fix due to Technical issues technical limitations Or something that requires really a lot of time to reach the result because it's not possible to do it in a day You need many days only dedicated to that thing So we said, okay, it's not Important right now We have plans to we want to change many things with the migration to GTK for and live but why so we say it's stupid to spend a week on something We know we are going to throw away because of the migration So basically now the app looks to be circle What's the what's the complain not complain compliant compliant We'll see we're waiting for a new feedback so That's very That's very nice. Yep. And Now that you're like part of the GNOME foundation and but at Yes, did you manage to meet also some KD people or were they running from you? No, no, no Well, there were many people To be honest, I don't remember who exactly was for no or who was for KD Because in the end were all friends to my eyes. I was not selecting them for The desktop environment, you know So, yeah, that there was a mix of a mix of people Nice and I know that you came out of LA as with some ideas for t-shirts because I've seen some designs in the chat So what's up with that? Yeah, I Let Mirko explain that published all the designs Spoiler at all the designs on his own personal telegram channel. So who's lucky to be in that channel seeing them Can I can I show them or are they secret? You can go. Yeah, I believe we are going to do a tweet Or this night or tomorrow morning. So let's see who spoilers I don't know to say them first. Okay. Okay So let me actually show them to the public and meanwhile, please explain what's the idea behind them how they came to be There is no idea That's the best idea It's just for fun Here we have I'll say the story behind it Yeah, yeah, say say the story behind the shirts I'll say it Mirko or you want to You can say Okay so Everything started with I absolutely don't remember what we were doing, but there was the idea of a tweet By the way At use bottles that is our Twitter username. So maybe Was for sure related to the usual by the way use arch Uh, so we say okay by the way use bottles was perfect And there was the idea to go to the talk with a t-shirt With the simply bottles on the front the bottle's log on the front on the hurt And on the back By the way at use bottles So like to close the talk Turn around and go away with by the way use bottles Was as a closure a joking closure For many reasons we Where basically we said, okay, it's fun. Let's do it. Then we said No avoid it then so Do it don't do it In the end was too late. Basically it was simply too late to print the t-shirt so at the end of the talk I Said this thing of I wanted to have a t-shirt and turn around to tell you by the way use bottles and the crowd laughed at it after the talk Few people told me Now I want the t-shirt. I want the by the way use bottles t-shirt So and there was a guy ready to give me money In that moment telling me I give you the money now when you have it you'll ship to me so I say no because I had no idea about are we really going to do it so In the end on the sunday I spoke about or maybe in the evening because I had to drive one hour in the half. So I called mirko saying Things about the event And they told him people asking me for the t-shirt. They wanted I use bottles t-shirt So on the sunday we joke about it on twitter doing a Very quick design the design was okay. Put the logo And open the text editor on The website we were using and write by the way. I use bottles very bad The quality wasn't bad It's on twitter take a text put it on a t-shirt and that's it and end of the design zero effort So There has been some comment about uh, no with That design I will not buy it. But if it will be better A lot of people will buy it And we said, okay, should we really think about some kind of design? Should we really think about something? fun to see and in the end Some idea came up the first of all was Better use bottles from better call soul a tv series both me and mirko lob and After doing the first t-shirt with better call a better use bottles Mirko said what about a complete set of t-shirts using tv series logos And the set of t-shirts you have as born so Sooner or later, they could be on sale We don't know yet. Yeah Spoiler alert. We designed the store So The idea is more Something true than an idea Because is we already tried to configure a store. We designed the store. We tried to configure on a website that Allows you to to buy and so on We checked the prices We made some research. We are Most ready to sell them The real problem right now is how to get the money Because you know in italy Even for something So stupid bureaucracy is so hard So even just to get to give to the people something fun, even if we want to gift Those t-shirts it's hard We can't do it in an easy way So we are checking into bureaucracy of how to do it in a proper way Then we could go online with a kind of store with the t-shirts you have on screen Nice nice and the last question. I promise that I do still regarding the as Now that you're a gnomed circle compliant Do you have plans on switching from gtk to karugami and actually joining kd community instead or Just to know just Which not a full switch We are splitting The back end from the front end so we can make multiple client or bottles We we just have a gtk version a clea version that is fully independent from the gtk version I want as I already say you I want a kirigami client. I absolutely want because I love kirigami I I love kirigami There will be a kirigami client for kda Absolutely, we can also join kd community. I think Yeah, probably Depends. I don't know if like the entirety of the project even if you have a client with kirigami To join the kd community like you have to use the git lab. I think I think offered by kde so, I don't know if that's That would work for you, but In theory, absolutely And we will would welcome you with open hands for sure as though I'm just joking of course I I am not like trying to steer you away from the gnomes circle and stuff Yeah, I'm just talking we have the git lab. Yep the benefit for the Git lab gnomes git lab but I personally hate git lab. I prefer git lab. So the source code will be Will be on git lab forever probably because Git lab pipeline I just Broke him to me Yeah, I was just thinking that actually One of one issue could be that Actually applying for being part of kde as a project in theory requires hosting the project on a non-pro proprietary Git server and github technically is proprietary. So that is technical issue, but I mean, it's just speculation at this point of in time, of course I'm I'm not the judge of kde by any means so And makes sense and we think that Me and Mirko authors or not already See the tour of the git providers At last yeah Git lab GitHub and Whatever was possible to test we tested And we have to say Today github is a step forward And this doesn't mean git lab can't be A real competitor. Absolutely. Git lab is a real competitor But for the kind of use you are making today of the actions of the pipelines Uh, it's difficult to change I don't hide you that I have right now ongoing Some tests for a possible switch to git lab But it's not easy because only just converting the usage we are doing of the actions to git lab Is not really easy. I'm studying about the conversions. For example, we also use Docker inside the action runner So on github we have an action that runs Ubuntu, but inside runs docker with arch and makes operations Uh, so it's not just okay. Use this distribution and run this command Would be easy. It isn't Uh, also, uh, gith lab has just switched or from next month switches to a limit of 400 minutes of build for public projects Right now it's unlimited, but someone abused it, of course, and they are going to 400 minutes while github is 2000 minutes You can apply for an open source project support and they give you The enterprise license if i'm not wrong or something like that But it's different process requests. They could say, you know, uh, it's not so easy So for sure, someone will get mad at us because we are using github instead of git lab, but It's our requirement right now This doesn't mean we don't like anything else. Just this is fitting our requirements. It's working well People is getting what we want to build because what you get on the different operating systems is coming from what we build on github Uh, we'll see time will tell us Okay, and to switch the topic entirely Uh, you probably know that sometime ago I did a tweet asking my public if they had any questions about battles and Some of them add as an example the first like question that I got You actually got mad at and you replied to it immediately Because it was when will we get dot desktop files for installed programs and you were like We did that already, right? Yeah So that's done. We can consider it done. There's another question from a kd developer Which is rather interesting and that is can we use battles to install battles in a battles battle? No Because it's not really easy. There's a windows binary But in theory if we release a fake bottle a fake bottles as windows binary We could do that Mirko Yes Because we could also build No with the dot ui files. We can build a look alike windows binary. That does nothing That can be running bottles That's okay Nice to know nice to know. Are you going to do that though? Your users will tell us comment below We are on youtube. No comment below and ask for bottles in bottles and There might be a real use case here. Yeah, yeah, it depends on how many comments bottles on bottles. So please Put like subscribe and comment with bottles in bottles, please So the social part is done Subscribe especially subscribe, you know to both my channel and the bottles channel because they do have a channel to So let's point that out I'll put the link in the video description if I don't forget to Okay But but I also I also see that the logo of bottles like tries to avoid any alcoholic lookalike bottle and that was actually by design No Long short story we have been completed to be promoting alcohol So now our logo includes a bottle of milk And that I could actually answer another of the questions here, which is why is the runner called Cafe instead cafe instead of whiskey such a missed opportunity Well, we avoided the accent Mirko avoid the accent Mirko wanted the cafe Cafe and I let him explain why Uh Just because using the accent can be a problem in parts And other things How are the cafe in general you brought it in a lot of ways cafe. We drink a lot of cafe. I think this was the We have a month of subscriptions to coffee. So Yes, we have and I always have red bull in in my fridge. So this tells you something about how many cafes We drink and need to provide you two releases per month That does seem to be a common trend in giving names There is the cafe in extension. No, there's also the latte Doc for kd. So There is some interest in doing like can I do a joke? Yeah You you see in the norm both bottles Cafe in and so on you have coffee you have caffeine something for adult people in kd you have milk Okay I'm joking people. I'm joking The real question should the the real question should be why or first runner was called banilla Cafe Is that or is a or new runner? But the first runner was called banilla which Is just a joke because it was a vanilla wine build And it's just italian things. The banilla is banilla in italy. It's just I'm crazy probably Yeah, yeah, and there was also another name That we had to put under the carpet after the comment about the logo Because we had chardonnay We had bottles with the kind of wine bottles as logo and a runner called chardonnay and So people said but you're promoting alcoholism No, it's all a joke around wine But okay We switch to coffee and coffee it is And you mock a kitty for using latte, but you do have a milk bottle Latte is milk in italian. You do have a milk button in your logo. So that comes for you too All right, we are inclusive That's right Fair enough fair enough You know, as I said also to the to the talk we are all friends I'm hating Joking but not hating Okay, so Another question this one is actually serious. I think this one asks How can I install from an iso file as an example? I own a totally Legal copy of sims 4. I don't know why they put emphasis on the totally legal part of it It comes with an easy. I may know the reason It comes with an iso and I have to mount it and then run the setup dot x xa xa But I can't run on that on buttholes does not install What would you say to that? Well, uh, just a little explanation Okay, the totally legal copy I believe Comes from the fact we complain at the Multiple times People that was asking us to test software. We don't own the license for And that is not having trial periods So we say we don't have a license. We don't have the installer because he's requiring a license We are not going to download it in an illegal way just To test it and provide an installer And we also say if you have A license key that you know we can use and then they activate to give it you back because multiple softwares allow it Let's get in touch and we can try to have it running But of course we don't support the Non-legal use of software Yeah to make it run So if you have a license, let's get in touch If you can give us the license we can also do a kind of remote connection and Use Your pc with your license to try to run it and make an installer for the community And these are also also this guy who wants to install seems for If you tried it and is not working we are the github repositories Which mirko is going to tell you which is the most correct one because he always goes crazy with With where to open the issues The programs report Okay for this kind of programs repository Open an issue Telling us what are you trying to install We check if we can have it On our own or we'll get in contact with you to understand How to test it and try to provide a community installer if possible because Bottles is magic There are limits By the way, may I ask you quickly if you can Like maybe turn on your microphone audio slightly or get slightly closer to the microphone or something because It's getting a bit low a little bit low Me or Mirko you Me okay strange. I can also Gain a bit okay Test test test. Yep. That's a bit better. Yes. It's a bit better and Also, I know that you tweeted that you're not planning to compete with lootries. What's the difference with that project? Oh no that question again I Through explain this I have an idea the answer to this question is in the final part of the talk Because it was a question from the crowd Now the the short answer is seriously short answer is Um bottles and lootries have different scopes Lootries is focused on games It's the main reason you use lootries. It has also support to some emulators and so on Bottles Is born and the focus is run software any kind of software Then most of the community are players Because usually the software windows software you want to run on linux 90 percent It's games So We look like direct competitors, but we in true have different targets um also different Goals for people so We are Not really competitors. You just use what fits you better And indeed we are also open to cooperate with lootries to go forward in off projects because We both also material from lootries knows that we can get um how to say Positive things of sharing In sharing so More we share more both projects grow so We are friends of lootries in the end Uh people thinks we like fight Or we hate lootries or In truth, no, we are kind of friends with all on twitter with matthew and It's everything fine. So it's a bit like A lot of people think that like kd and gnome developers fight between each other every day with sticks and stones, but They actually don't At all. So yeah, they talk they share ideas. They think How to provide a better experience to users? and So we are all friends in the end. Yeah, I think a bit of this came out. Uh, I remember Recently there was this a bit of controversial tweet, I think by the lootries author and There were some people saying ah If you were saying this then I'll switch to battles So maybe there was something coming out of that Well, it was just matthew. I think uh, it's matthew the name I don't okay matthew. Um Matthew it's mat. Matthew. Matthew. Okay. Uh, okay, perfect. Um Matt Matt Matt no, it's not Matt. No uh He just uh drop a wrong sentence using the wrong words and It's just a good boy uh Well, let's see. Let's he didn't speak as lootries people has also to consider that uh, there are Different profiles. There is bottles profile Pietros profile mirko's profile. There is lootries profile and there is matthew's profile so taking matthew's words As his project words, even if he's talking about linux where he there was a complaint about how flatpak is working and a complain on How to get it working on the steam deck was his personal comment He put effort to have lootries flatpak working on the steam deck and There was a discussion an open discussion a lot of people joined it And there people started saying Okay, so if it is like that we switch to bottles, but It's Against What open source means it Again, this is my opinion. I believe Mirko. I'm quite sure Mirko is aligned with me, but um saying instead of discussing with someone Maybe matthew was totally wrong in that in that tweet it could be but If you discuss you can also understand the other point of view and you can reach a common point If you just say oh, so I use the other software what is um your Contribution to the community We even Mirko joined the discussion. I I stayed aside Mirko joined the discussion and Mirko discussed with him about Why you say that And through it I made a comment. I believe yeah, I made a comment and I also had I hate I I gained a hater in that comment Uh But Mirko joined the discussion Mirko spoke with matthew in a public way and Tried to understand and help Because this is what open source is This is what communities No matter if it is open sources or anything else Yeah, if I mean Sorry, uh, if I may add like my personal One one thing that particularly impressed me of that event is that when that happened I was actually In a pub like I was completely not checking twitter I was not at home I was not curing and I just quickly saw the tweet and I saw the people discussing with each other I didn't really care about that particular tweet because I was in a pub I was doing completely something different But uh, maybe I put some likes somewhere. I don't remember But something that has happened is that One of the people got so angry about lootries that actually Sent a message to me and think I think also the battle saying that they were going to actually Cancel their patron to lootries and they actually wanted to give me money Instead of lootries and I didn't know the reason at all So I just gave in my patron and I received like 50 monies when I was in the pub So third Okay, that's the weird weirdest thing ever because I don't know what the discussion was I don't know honestly. I didn't know honestly back then if lootries had done anything wrong But somehow I got involved in in this and It was very hard to me to step Something that probably I should have done go ahead and say no take a moment Breathe and think about that if you really want to do that because it was going to be in my advantage And maybe I should have done that. I should occur more. That's something that I regret from that day But I don't know Welcome on twitter No, that's true. That's true I made a I made at least a comment on on that tweet and immediately gaining the hater because of what I said was my toe I may have been wrong. I I'm not saying I was right That person is is a bad guy I may have been completely wrong. I probably also retweeted something Also from other people that joined and so there there was a a little mess in in Kind of point of view So in the end everyone for sure say wrong things Including Mirko Nobody was right. Nobody was under present right indeed also Different people rectified so corrected what they said also the day after But is You can't control it Are things that happen We are humans We fight Then it's Any each person can decide okay, I I want to continue fighting or I want to be more positive and Try to be Again into the community and contribute and help and try to be useful because and They They said to you okay, I removed the pattern from him and give to you Okay At why I mean Uh, thank you at why because of Free speech so, uh Unfortunately are things that happen and I don't say they shouldn't because They could be opportunities those moments could be opportunities uh money out of the discussion that could be opportunities to Learn something improve something discuss about things how are going so um, it's not good they happen but let them happen and For sure someone changed it from looters to bottles Lucky us I don't know to be honest because Uh, the next time we do a tweet where we don't agree on something This person will say ah Now I go to looters Yeah, okay You know what I mean, yeah Are actions that Do not completely make sense and It's up and that's it Okay, so changing the subject Do you have any plans to look into like Darwin for Macintosh or like android apps or these sort of things? We have plans for way droid and darlings There are many problems right now because way droid requires some kernel patches And doesn't work at all in a flat pack Which is our main package or main distribution format We have plans for it Darling and right now doesn't support Uh 19% of macOS application, so We probably uh If I'm not wrong. Yes. They completely miss the support to metal right now. Yes. That's the big problem. Um We will support way droid in first place Maybe a handbox Darling Let me see because I don't remember the website. It's also difficult to find them right now If I check Guys you have to improve your website Our last committee 11 days ago They are they are working on it. They are working on it for sure Where was that there was the note Okay, does it support the gy apps almost? They have basic experimental support for running simple graphical applications so Cross fingers Fingers cross set them Because sooner or later We may have bottles on os x Which support os x application or linux not on os x. I don't want to provide bottles for os x. I'm honest So bottles for os x not on os x. I'll yeah, I'll never do it And what are your What are your um future plans for buttocks now that You know everything What are you going to do in the future? We have layers Which basically Solved the fix the problem Yetro explained it on On art this video. I don't know how to say It's uh Using running up a windows application using wine in the on on wine prefix prefixes My english is very bad It's also 10 to 1 o'clock. Yeah, it's one o'clock. Yeah There are many problems running a windows application as those Requires different dependencies different configuration different technologies like uh dicks vk vk v3d and many more and Lutris and play on linux and many other Install one application in one wine prefix just to fix the problem at the the root I can say and So one application Simple can can't eat older application So there are no conflicts with dependencies configuration and many more We are landing we are developing there are Some code in bottoes To provide layers to wine so you can just I'll explain very simple this thing We can Have just one wine wine prefix and every application and every dependency have His home layer. So you can just have multiple application multiple Dependencies configuration components technologies and many more In just one bottle without conflicts and Without breaking anything it just will work This is or It's very I explain it very simple It's not very simple at all. It's very Problematic thing we need support on on this But this is the the big feature We we will implement in bottoes in the future Many maybe Pietro can explain this better than me Well indeed the Normal behavior today is a one program per prefix. So it's isolated and It just runs Even the dependency dependencies are there It just runs This means you duplicate data and Require a lot of space on disk So our idea is to Know when you install something know What are the dependencies of this thing? And avoid duplication of installation. So when you Run a bottle, this is mounted on the fly Taking the requirements of the software And it runs So when you stop the bottle Basically, I'm simplifying a lot When you stop the bottle You don't have a hard copy of what you don't need Until you need it again So it's a System to manage this behavior and to avoid indeed to Require a lot of space on disk just because programs can't live together also You may need Two bottles for two different games that in theory they can live together Imagine games from steam from epic games. They just live in the same bottle But maybe a game works better with a different dxvk version compared to another game Or a different runner or anyway different settings And you have two options you modify the bottle every time you change game Or you create two different bottles requiring two times the space The layers we want to address this issue and say, okay Uh, you can configure a pair program setting but we manage The dependencies in the background and avoid to install you multiple times the same thing so This is the goal in a very simplified way But it's Not as easy as I explained Yeah, and is requiring a lot of effort to develop it Yeah, and there's a lot of things that seem easy in theory, but are not in practice like I've just finished implementing floating panels in kitty plasma and I can easily tell you that was like It sounded so easy three months ago Now it has been the most difficult thing I've ever done so Yeah User will say it's just a floaty panel. Yeah I just had some margin, right? It's so simple Yeah, to us they will say, ah, you're just to move files Yeah so Another Simpler thing and this is really simpler doesn't mean it's easy, but it's simpler Thing we are planning is cloud sharing So do a backup of your configurations of your, uh bottles Only in matter of configuration. So don't it's not a full backup, but it's a settings backup on your account and Go to a different pc and log in with your data and start creating the bottles just you created Days ago months ago on a different pc or on the same pc Maybe you changed this throw you required to format or whatever and You just recover your settings with a sharing functionality in matter of share to a friend share to the public So create a link for a friend for anybody and share your bottles. So a user that gets something to run the Rizmove and Really share his setting just with A link Basically the idea is a link. So you publish a link and anybody can get your bottle configuration Understood Okay, so just to wrap it up. Is there anything you want to say In general, is there like any link that I should include in the video description for you anything? By the way use bottles Yeah What else yeah, I'll totally get one of the t-shirts then Yeah, we have also to do the use bottles comm t-shirt miracle So the website is linked because the website is again use bottles comm so Yeah, I will our main main and favorite communication channel is twitter So if anybody wants to get in touch with us just tag us on twitter and write us on twitter and we'll answer for sure Our website is indeed use bottles.com where you can find all the information documentation Both for end users and for developers in the footer you have esco or t-tab metrics Whatever you'll find everything in the footer of the website and You can also come on this call to say Hey, I use bottles by the way Perfect. Thank you so much. It's uh one a.m. Like almost officially at this point. So it's been a long talk and a very interesting one. So thank you so much for actually Doing this at midnight to 1 a.m. That uh, uh, that was so nice of you so Thank you for hosting us and by the way Hopefully, hopefully if we're lucky, uh, you'll start doing live streams on youtube And right that you do have a plan some sort of plan in that It's one of the many ideas. Yes, it's one of the ideas Maybe with some luck i'll be able to participate a bit in the live streams if you If you allow me We'll still don't Well, there is the idea. Okay Uh, the main point is What kind of life? Yeah We use bottles we develop bottles We tell you things about bottles mix It's so There are so many possibilities And are so different Um Public so in our community, there is who is interested In the development who is interesting using it who is interesting just talking to us with us So what kind That's another question. Do you have an answer? Yeah, that's another question for our viewers right now. So be sure to Comment what you would like to see bottles in bottles in youtube live off Yeah so With you, uh, I'll see you on like twitter and uh our telegram chat with you instead I'll see you tomorrow with another video. I don't know about what I still have to record it And thanks everybody for watching and thanks you all for actually allow me to do this. See you Thank you very much. See you