 Okay, so any further questions or Maybe something that you want to share about servant leadership See one one one challenge, I think that what we are shared was like what if people take advantage, you know that that is always there any other Challenges that you foresee your questions You might have okay Okay, if there's if there's anything you can bring it up in a later time as well, right? Let's let's continue No, there's a there is a Workshop or a ministry called lead like Jesus and I mean if there is one in your city Maybe you can you know you can attend that it's I've attended one like a weekend kind of a workshop I found it really you know of value talking about How we make decisions? the vision Also, you know everything I with the Lord Jesus as our example so we can you know discuss some very practical things Like okay, it's it's not just out there or in there in the world But it's something to be followed by people from all walks of life and especially if you know you are in business. You are a Formal leader carrying a formal leadership title and role, you know Well the the fact that it it can be lived out, right, so it is It's very very encouraging so you know you can if you have an opportunity you could attend one of those seminars or We can schools. I mean we can workshops Okay, okay, so now we just move on to something which is slightly different So we've looked at what leadership is we looked at the Lord Jesus being our being our leader the example that he said and The example that he said in various fronts, right? So we looked at all that and it'll do us good to go back to it or you know remind ourselves about it Because many times we get caught up in the responsibility. We get caught up in the work at hand and And then we forget. Okay, the big picture is the big picture, right? It's good to revisit these things. Okay. So now talking about the big picture Okay, now, that's the thing that we're going to look at next which is Just a very important aspect of Leadership and also You know, especially when you're leading an organization the ministry or a team It's it's a very important aspect of it that we should be strong in and also the rest Who are part of the organizational team should be should be really strong in it. Okay, so what is this? Now we are obviously talking about this thing called vision right Vision simply means in in normal terms. It just means stability to see right vision To see if you have a clear vision you see clearly If not, it's a blurred vision Right, you're not able to see clearly So vision is just the ability to see so it but when you look at vision we see, you know In in the word of God we see that the Lord You know, the kids in the Holy Spirit Supernaturally he gives us visions. He communicates to us God communicates to us in visions and dreams now, you know, that's that is also something that we see But it's a message that is that is communicated to us. That's that's again Referred to as vision But what we're looking at today is something that Something that that is That captures what our life purpose is or what is the purpose of The organization or ministry or team right a few words maybe a few sentences that that capture what it is So that it becomes clear to us That this is why and this is what we are called to do Okay, so when you talk about a vision statement, that is what a vision statement does describes What I'm going to do or what we as an organization will do or will become and And and therefore it talks about what is our purpose? What are we be going to focusing on where we are headed, right? Etc. So it's an important statement. No, why is it? Before we go there, let me just share the Definition and the description. Okay, so it's a it's a description a vision is a description of What church or ministry? It will do or it'll become and it communicates purpose communicates what we're going to be focusing on in future and And it is a It should be a call to action So if we can ask three important questions about vision, right if you say what? It describes Three important questions that we need to know as leaders About our purpose What is it? What is it that you want to do or what is it one that you want to become? That describes our vision The next question why Why am I doing this? Describes our mission our values our principles. Why do we do what we do and How we go about doing it again our goals and objectives and the activities That we do in order to reach our goals Right in order to reach or fulfill the vision how What are those things that we so we're going to look at each of these So if you look at vision We see that it's a What a vision does and we're going to look at a few things there clear vision From God provides direction and guidance a clear vision from God provides direction and guidance So in the context of church ministry it was it is true in the context of even you know for us individuals like For a person it is true in the context of an organization or a tea okay, a clear vision something that is very clear and Of course, we're saying that now we rely on God we on the Lord We receive that call and purpose and vision from him, right? So in you know in other words, we are saying okay God. What is what is a big picture? What is the purpose? Why am I here? What do I do what I do and we're asking the same question For the for the ministry like for the church for the team like God so when when when the Lord and the purpose in the vision he's a source of right and When the Lord communicates that and we capture it and put it together this vision Provides direction and guidance So it's very important. Okay Prouds 29 and verse 18 where there is no revelation or where there is no vision the people cast off the stream There's no boundary Okay, but happy is he who keeps the law so when the vision has a Has the ability to give the direction and the focus and the guidance that people need Which means that they say, okay, this is the vision so therefore I need to do this and not do this As long as I'm doing this I'm headed in the right direction If I'm not doing it or if I'm doing something else, then I'll be going some in there in a direction Which is not the purpose which is not in line with the vision Okay, so this vision is very very clear. I mean if it's if it's clear It's very very it's important and it's important that it needs to be Clear not only for us as leaders, but also for everybody in the team everybody in the organization Right, so it is it can be as simple as if you look at it It can be as simple as okay here is this group of people and we are going out for lunch and It should be clear where we are going Right, it should be communicated and we're gonna look at that You know, so it gives a sense of direction. Okay, this is the place No, if it's You know, you name the place and this is where it's located the name the restaurant and this where it's located It gives a sense of you know where you are headed. You know, this is the direction. It gives guidance Okay, this is what I need to do in order to reach there Right as simple as that so If the task might be huge The task might be, you know, it's about changing the world. It could be it's about saving the lost You know for a church, but if we capture that in a few words the vision statement if we actually bring focus or It could be based on the things that the burden that the Lord has given To you as a leader to you as a church and we put that together It becomes clear So those who come and be part of that vision also get that clarity, okay, this is what we can do this is Where we are going so it brings so much of clarity in whatever we want to do So when there's clarity Then our action our steps that we need to take is also clear Right Otherwise it can be very misleading I just imagine, you know, if you know, if it's just one or two people, it's fine But if it's many Then if there is no clarity, then we will end up in a place or end up going Away from where we are supposed to be going right if it's this restaurant that we need to go and if there's no clarity and if that That, you know, if that direction and clarity is not communicated Then we will end up in a in a different place in a different restaurant and not in this place It's as simple as that so a vision from God provides direction and guidance so a vision is important right and I remember that As a when we are overseeing the worship ministry, so many years ago this happened that Though there was, you know, we had actually had a vision statement and so on there was There was a kind of misunderstanding about the vision lack of clarity about the vision and That resulted in a lot of Confusion there's a lot resulted in a lot of You know confused action So for example the the vision right now is the vision of the worship ministry is to please God's heart in Understand worship to please God's heart. That's the first thing. There are three things to it But the first thing is this to please God's heart So which means that I as a worshipper or Even a worship leader of the worship minister or worship team. I personally Need to please God's heart in understand worship right and second part of it is to is to experience or to you know Be in the Manifest presence of God to experience his manifest presence to encounter his manifest presence And to lead others to it. So three parts to encounter his manifest presence second part so the thing is, you know In the statement that we had earlier there was I mean as leaders we had the clarity, but then as a team Now there was lack of clarity. So it resulted in confused action in the sense. Okay. Some people were saying, okay I'm here to lead others in worship That's the important thing So it doesn't matter even if I do not You know, leave myself into it doesn't matter. But my primary goal is lead the people into worship So there was a you know mismatch and we had to clarify it. We had to stop clarify and say hey This is what it is. Yeah. Okay. Isaac you have a you raised a question. You raised your hand. You have a question Sidenst Sorry It's it's my coincidence. Oh I say okay by mistake. Okay fine, right? Okay, so Divya's question is a Vision can evolve over a period of time Is that right or is that wrong? Okay? So yeah, say yes, definitely Divya vision especially when you're talking about let's say That's something that we're going to look at you know, the nature of the vision. Well, there is a big picture, but there is there could be An addition or increase in scope. There could be a refinement refining of division over a period of time But the general direction, you know and focus That is that is something that is there, you know So when we're talking about when you're asking the question, okay can a vision evolve over a period of time? Well let's say Individually, you know, you apply it into individually and say, okay This is where I was going and this is I mean this is the basic idea of what I have. Okay. I'm called to I'm called to minister say let's take it that way. I'm called to minister and In in this kind of a setting with these kind of people. Okay now That is that is the big picture But over the period of time There could be a change in the sense. I'm minister. I'm called to minister to yeah With the Lord expands the scope of ministry and called to minister to People X Y and Z as well right The orders expanding the realm of influence may be and he's saying okay geographically Expanding the territory and saying X Y and Z. So it's no more X It's Y and Z and where X Y and Z are so different like ethnically maybe So all that so there is a refining Which is coming along with the vision But the gen the big picture of the general. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Yeah Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you first. I just know upon that. That's so Yeah, if at all, okay God wants you to lead You know in a wider scope Certain section of people but over a period of time you get to see that there is need in this area so the The beginning, you know the the vision when started it was focused on a certain section But later on when you interact with people and you're seeing that okay That is smaller like a smaller need But what I'm seeing is a bigger need So Is it okay to do that? Otherwise, you know, there'll be a lot of confusion as you said. Yeah It's absolutely fine. You know, it's because the need is an opportunity but as long as You know, the Lord is there's some things to it No, like, okay, is it something that you need to personally take on or is it something that can be? Taken on by someone else, you know, they can Delegated to someone all those questions are also there But as the Lord, you know, graced you and called you gifted and called you for that particular thing as well So or is it is it a need? Is it just a need which is there which needs to be fulfilled? You know, but are you called to fulfill that deep? So that thing, you know, if there is a stirring within and you see that, okay, God, you know, I need to do that because It's going to take time It's going to take resources and you're going to put all that behind it. And is that what God wants you to be doing? So Yeah, so as long as you're clear on that perfectly, you know You can say, okay, this is something that God is expanding and it's And yeah, you know, there's a refocus in the vision Yeah, okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay Okay, so uh, so we look at we see the importance of how the vision can provide directional guidance So like this, you know, worship the ministry example so Just completely changed the whole outlook. So where there was a lot of confusion I won't say confusion, but it was a lot lack of clarity In that particular statement, right? So we had to kind of I mean we rewrote it And said, okay, let's put it in simple language. Let's put it in simple terms and it brought a lot of Change to the direction in which we're heading. So we see that. Okay. It's no more. First of all, it's about me personally, you know, this is basic thing but then then the vision captured it and Communicated it it became so much easier right, it's like how to change you know, your glasses and the power And then it becomes very clear. You're sitting there and You know and the doctor's clinic and then puts these Lens and then lenses and different lens and then I think wow This is fine. Perfect. Everything has become clear now. You know, it's like like that moment, right? So vision actually brings that Hey, uh, clear vision second thing brings a light meaning that there is a clarity and thought and action I think that is direction guidance, but it here there is the cause of the the way it's it's clear because of the what it is and What it communicates there's clarity and thought there is clarity in action the Lord Jesus said right, Matthew 6 The lamp of the body is the eye if therefore your eye is good Your body will be full of light if your eye is bad your whole body will be full of darkness If therefore the light that is in you is darkness. How great is that? darkness because he's talking about you know spiritual darkness he's talking about um while he's talking about the The natural functioning of the eye He's talking about, you know, spiritual darkness But if you look at the natural functioning, how Our eye actually gives light and enables us to see Clearly so you can see where you want to go and you're clear Uh about where you want to go same thing a vision Statement or vision from God does that brings light? Okay Um, the third thing that we need to do with the vision is we need to state it Okay, maybe it's in our heart right like a burden like a need Something that is just weighing on us And uh, we need to actually state it. We need to capture it stated Okay, you know Habakkuk 2 uh the Lord gives Habakkuk what he needs to do And uh Habakkuk writes it down. Well, this is what the Lord says The Lord answered me and said Habakkuk 2 was to write the vision and make it plain on tablets that he may run Who needs it? Okay, the the cv come to contemporary English version says this then the Lord told me I will give you my message in the form of a vision Write it clearly enough to be read at a glance Right, which means it's uh, this is it should be simplified No ambiguity in it, right could it mean this could it mean that? No, it's clear plain So that the one who reads it Uh is moved to act Okay, that he may run who reads it meaning It moves that person once you receive it when you read it and you receive it You're moved to act you move to action Right, so that's uh should be uh You should be stated you should be explained and like I shared another worship ministry's vision to First of all to please God's heart in unrestrained worship to encounter his manifest presence and To establish the church establish others In it. So that is the vision If you look at the the vision of all people's church, you know, for example vision statement A vision at all people's church is to be the salt and light in the city of Bangalore A voice to the nation and to the nation. So it's a description of what we should be It is a description of Where we need to go A voice to the nation if you're not there already And to the nations it's it's giving you know clear direction a sense of direction Um a big picture of this is what is who we are identity as salt and light as a lot called All of us as disciples that we are called to be this salt Influence light impact so In influence and impact For the sake of the kingdom Bringing the good news of the kingdom people getting saved gone again Um influence and impact in the city That is where the church originated started was founded. That is where we are and As the lord expands a voice to the nation as the lord gives the grace to the nations Right, so that's the that's been the That's been the vision from day one Right from the time when it was eight people right and so What it has done in all these years Has really enabled Uh apart from what we whatever we said, you know direction and guidance enabled We put concentrated effort resources time In order to fulfill and what it has also done is um that others Who with whom this resonated when a goddess might probably put the same thing in their hearts To be salt and light and so to be part of this Big vision corporately right others whom felt the same stirring Come and be part of it and saying hey, I I want to be part of this I want to fulfill this In this manner Maybe consciously they didn't think about it or maybe they did You know, but it's it produced a stirring and saying okay now since we are part of it. This is where we are going Like this is what we're going after So it it helps to capture it. It helps to write down. It helps to do it in a very clear simple manner right the other thing Hopefully is that this needs to be communicated So, you know, it's probably in the heart in your heart Okay, you put it down You write it down. You capture it in so many statements write it down But this has to be communicated to whom it is coming it is communicated It needs to be communicated to whoever's part of it as part of the body. Maybe it's a small team Maybe it's a family. Maybe it's uh, you know your business. It's the it's the Organization church whatever we're talking about the mission. I'm sorry the vision So I'm sure you've seen it right in the organizations that Maybe you visited some organizations office And you see it in the in the receptionist desk or you know, just behind that on the wall Some of these companies have that vision statement very boldly written there This is the vision. This is what we want to do. This is where we want to be We want to be pioneers. We want to be innovators. We want to be leaders right in technology you want to be pioneers we want to you know bring solutions To to mankind healthcare solutions and so on, you know, you've seen So why do they have that so that it it communicates? It is you know, this vision needs to be communicated to others um, and can be So that people can be part of it They can know it first of all. They can be part of it Um, and it can become this Right, it says, okay. It's it's like, okay. It's no more out there. It's no more their vision, but it's it's mine I begin to own it. It's my vision now And I want to be part of this and I want to do it and I want to live my life Again fulfilling this so I own it and every time We hear it you are you are enthused by it you are again, um The revitalized. Hey, this is the task at that time. This is what the lord is You know, I've discovered the calling god of god. This is how Um, this is what the lord has called me to do. This is what he has graced me gifted me to do And so you are you know, enthused by it very excited Saying, okay, let me let me go after this now right So, uh, look at Nehemiah chapter two Verse 17 and 18 we see something that is, uh Yeah That is mentioned here Which will help us Right 17 then I said to them you see the distress that we are in how Jerusalem lies waste and its gates start gates are burned with fire Calm and let us build the wall of Jerusalem That we may no longer be a reproach And I told them of the hand of my god which had been good upon me and also of the king's words That he had spoken to me So they said Let us rise up and build then they set their hands to this good work so Nehemiah talks to the people about uh, You know the task at hand the fact that the walls are broken down in Jerusalem and uh, and so he tells them let's Build the wall come and let us build the wall of Jerusalem That we may no longer be a reproach And he also talks to them about what happened how God's grace our favor has been there and how the king Uh, you know king's words yet spoken and which means that the permission the resources all that the king actually Made available for this particular thing So they also echoed you know the people and they heard it They echoed the same thing. They said it resonated with them. They said let us rise up and build Okay, so they understood this is this is the task Then they set their hands to this good work, which means that not only did they agree not only did they say, okay Let us rise and build But they followed through with action Okay, so the vision needs to be communicated to whoever Needs to be part of it and so so which is why you know in church we always have that as something Uh during the announcement Right the church news announcement Every sunday people get to hear it. Um, so even in our worship team Meetings and retreats and so on We do it in creative ways. We may be like a puzzle You know we all the pieces of it or the different phrases of it we put it and then people need to You know put it together and And then stand in this correct order, you know each one having a word of that vision Statement and putting it together in the right order and whichever team does it first So do it in doing it in creative ways doing it in fun ways so that You know it's reiterated over and over again. So there are people who come, you know who join newly Um who come to church and then for them also it's a It's reiterated. So vision needs to be communicated um Yeah, so this this part of vision, uh, this aspect of it is that the vision needs to be repeated Okay, the vision statement needs to be repeated reiterated repeated Um, like I said, you know every time the worship team needs we used to You know we reiterated we repeated Every time the church meets The vision of the church vision statement of the church is repeated. Why because As human beings we tend to forget Like we get so engrossed in the daily things in the weekly things and things that we need to do We get so engrossed in the work of ministry That we forget we get so engrossed in the details, right? Um, like if it's a worship team we get so engrossed in okay, what is the song list? Uh, you know, how do I sing this song? What are the you know, what is the music? What are the chords? What is the tune the melody? Um, you know, what is the dynamic of it? You get so engrossed getting into the details of it I mean, it's good. We need to get into the details But without forgetting the big picture Because if you if you get into the details of this and we forget the big picture then we might Do certain things In a way Well, forget for example, it could be to well, I'm here to lead the congregation Oh, this is fun song. There's an exciting song. Uh, let's do it forgetting that The first thing is to please God's heart in Understand worship. So am I doing that? Or is it leading us somewhere? You know, not there but somewhere else right so It enables us To just brings us back in alignment. Okay, this is what it is. Okay, so in a sense. Yeah, it is Like we saw in probes 29. Let me let's look at that was Um probes 29 verse 18 That tendency to cast off that restraint Is Is always there when we get into the details of it but The vision statement the vision brings us back Okay, so it's like we can say, okay, maybe it's it's restraining Okay, it's it's helping us not to cast off our restraining. It's restraining But it's a good way in a good way It's it's not to You know, it's not to constrain us and restrict us But if there is any restriction or constraining, it's in a good way Right Uh, it is so that we might have focus It's not to restrict any freedom in the spirit Not to curtail our liberty But really to bring focus So that In the long run, right? We are fulfilling what we are supposed to fulfill. So you see the importance of this, you know Of the vision statement All right, so, you know as leaders We need to get it in us. Okay. We need to make sure That the vision statement that everybody In the organization in the team understands Understands clearly What we are doing or who we are And why are we doing what we are doing? Right and where do we need to be? So that everybody gets a strong grip of that. I don't know when I used to work in Um, now this is okay more to do with the you know the mission state mission statement Or you know what it's more to do with the details But then I was I was working in this organization I was in sales and and I remember every morning we would have A sales meeting right a meeting with the manager every morning and every morning Every day, right? This would be made clear What is our target? Where are we right now and what do we need to do in order to reach our target and how much time do we have Every day for every person in the sales team Right, so this would be made clear What is what is the target? Where are we where have you achieved now? Where are we? with regard to the target Um, what is the distance yet to be covered and how long do we have how much time do we have? To cover that so it's clear at each and every day Okay, so we move on to the mission statement, right? What is the? Ministry activity what do we do? right And for whom do we do it the people group the target? audience And how are we going to do it? right for example Our people search exists to disciple And equip believers in the word and the spirit to mature them into christ Christlikeness Fulfill god's purpose for their lives and to have influence and impact for gods kingdom. So this is slightly different from the vision It's getting into the details of how and what do we need to do in order to fulfill that right discipling equipping in the word and spirit Matureing into christlikeness Fulfill so that they fulfill god's purpose for their life and in turn have influence and have impact in In turn they become the salt and light For gods kingdom. So you see that it's broken down a little more details, right? So it's about the mission It's about the activity. It's about the daily things. It's about the weekly things It's about what we need to do in order to reach there Okay, so the answer to these questions. Okay, why does your church or ministry exist? What does your church or ministry do? um now Those answers Although I think we need to ask ourselves that question ask our church our team that question Otherwise, it will be, you know, like, okay, I prepare a message. I share a message Everybody hears that and then we do some outreach And we do some bible study your fellowship. We have the time we have some fellowship dinner You know, these all will be random things or disconnected activities because that is what a church is supposed to be doing We are comparing ourselves with other churches and other Uh, you know ministries and okay, we're trying to replicate. Okay, this is what a church is supposed to be doing Hey monthly ones Do we have to the men's group? We have we need to have this women's group We need to have this children's ministry and all that but it's not coming from that big picture or that big vision Why we are doing what we do? Oh that church is having something for you know a social Cause or they're doing something To feed the poor or something. So we also need to do that They're doing something for working provisions. We also need to do so, you know all that the doing part Becomes very disconnected and random things Randomly done, but if it flows from the mission vision statement And if it flows from okay, this is what our mission is That's further broken down. Then we would have What we would call as goals and action plans like clear goals And action plans which follow from the mission statement. So let's look at the mission statement again, right? So we saw what the big picture was to be salt and light to be influenced in impact To be a voice to the nation to the nations. Okay, so it talks about okay This is what we need to be or this is who we are And to these people, you know to the to the city to the nation case bigger group And to the nations. Oh a very big group Okay, so this is what it is. So this is the direction How do we do that and how do we do that and how do we get there? Well, this is what what we do we equip disciple mature people they will So that they discover God's call God's purpose for their lives and they in turn be The voice be the salt be the light So in order to do that, so how do we mature? How do we equip? Right, how do we disciple? Now that's further going into the details How do they discover God? It's good to say They need to discover. Can I do it on a Sunday service? Is that enough? if I preach and teach and About how to discover So what what are some other things that I need to have in order to really achieve that right? So then we get into the details of goals So before we go into you know goals any any questions or anything that you want to clarify Based on what we discussed so far um I guess it's it's fairly simple. It's basic right right from the big picture. We're just going into some of the details And uh, and it's an exciting journey Right. Um, yeah, uh, Divya go ahead please Yeah, one one thing is I think it's a Very straightforward question like uh, it's Whatever you you were telling about vision mission This can be done in a personal level as well, right? Hmm Yeah, yeah very true very true So, uh, yeah, it can be done at a personal level. It can be done at a corporate level Yeah Yeah within a family Go for a family. Yes Very true Yeah, so so it's uh, so that's the thing, you know many times we see the app. We think the application is only uh Like if it's a formal organization But it's not it's it's applicable at a personal level for our own lives And also, you know, even if it's a small unit like a family It is applicable Yeah One more thing is I I was just thinking about Jesus's leadership If we go by You know, what was the vision mission, you know to define those Then I was thinking, okay, maybe uh, he had a big picture, of course but um Every day morning. He had this Uh, you know the time with her father, right? He What what I used to imagine what I mean, I imagine us maybe he's getting the plan for the day, right? To go what we'll do All yeah all these so there is an element of Uh element of the working of the Holy Spirit here Right, right. So in that scenario, um Yeah Where does that fit in with Jesus's ministry like the vision mission? Yeah, so the no in uh, Luke chapter four and verse 18, right? They can kind of describes the big picture um, the purpose for his uh being here and he Puts it very he actually read from the from Isaiah uh, and then he He this buddy. No, let me just read it Look chapter four and was 18 and 19 The spirit of the lord is upon me because he has anointed me Right and then he goes on to say to preach the gospel to the poor He sent me to heal the broken hearted to proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind to set that liberty those who are oppressed to proclaim the acceptable year of the lord And then he said today the scripture is fulfilling your hearing saying that okay, this is this is the reason i'm here This is why this is what is going to happen right and and also Uh with regard to the details of the everyday thing. He also made it very clear. I said that Uh, whatever I see the father do that I do so he would Isolate himself From everyone right and very early in the morning or sometimes the whole night to see What the father was doing in the sense to get To hear from him and to work out all the All the details right so he was and also constantly he would hear He would be led by his spirit Led by the holy spirit in order to do what he needed to do so So we see all that we see both right the epic and then he says you know for this purpose I have come So the whole thing of redemption was very very clear For this purpose that I've become I've come here and uh, so even in this Like we see it in mark chapter 10 and verse 45 Mark chapter 10 verse 45 Okay, for for even the son of man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life a ransom for Many, okay, so he said that and also when he spoke to peter. We know that Saying that okay. This is this is the reason I have come uh, and then That I will be you know, I'm to give my life as a ransom. So I will be killed. I will be But I'll raise again or I'll be raised again out 30 So peter actually, you know in that conversation. He said, you know, it cannot be This cannot be your vision. You cannot do this and then he says, you know This this is the things of you're not mindful of the things of God, but you're mindful about things of man. So he was very clear About the big picture and he communicated that also to the you know to the disciples. It's just the reason I've come And in the daily things in what he did he got a Blueprint of what he's supposed to do. So in that he left us a great example right As believers what we need to do Okay, okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right Okay, so um So let's look at I think we have a couple of minutes. Let's just look at goals So goals are specific things specific objectives Uh in order to carry out the mission specific objectives that we need to do. Okay, so Taking that example of all people's church vision and mission statements. So we say, okay I need to equip the believer so that they can be salt and light So how do we equip the people? How do we equip the believers? Um, you know certain things. Okay. These are the objectives. We need to equip the believer. We need to mature them We need to you know, reach out The people we need to teach the people to be followers of Christ. No, these are all objectives goals And in order to do that there needs to be specific uh specific activities or specific tasks Which we call as a Action plan. So from vision From the mission statement from the goals We actually work out the action plan. Okay. Now none of it is You know, when we look at all this and say, okay, you know, it sounds very unspiritual You know, we need to flow with the spirit. Yes Right. So there's uh, there's nothing wrong in In talking about this and having this In fact, it is uh, it is scriptural, but it becomes a problem when god is not involved in this Or we are not involving god in this if we shut the door on god And then we plan out everything on our own and then with our human understanding and intellect and everything And then go to god and say lord, uh, we need your approval Right, but the thing is to involve him open the door and say god, you know, uh Right from day one right from the vision to involve him and say, okay, god, you know, you give the vision Okay, this is what we we believe is a vision, but please clarify No, please renew it clarify it to find it so that we can go forward with other mission go forward with what we need to do go forward with the objectives and then the actual action plan action plan would be specific Tasks, right? So we look at that we look at the action plan the work plan In our next class, um, but I would say, you know, just go through the notes Put that again and see if you have anything any other thoughts any other Um, maybe questions and doubts and we'll address it in our next class, right? Okay, right. Thank you God bless. We'll meet again