 Let's get over to our man, Mr. Tim Ord, as we do every Tuesday and Thursday, and don't forget folks You can reach Tim every trading day at www.Ord-Oracle.com And then our man, Mr. Tim Ord, he is going to be doing a great workshop for us And this is going to be a week from today Okay, if you come out to the front page of TFNN, you're going to see it right on the front page We're going to be talking about the six secret ratios that every trader should know and we're going to be Going through these ratios. We get the TLT with the VIX, you get the SPI with the VIX, we get the SPI On the daily, on the weekly, and then you get the bull bear ratio, and then of course the panic levels So this Workshop folks is starting at four o'clock a week from today It goes from four to five thirty. The workshop is only a hundred and forty nine dollars And you're going to learn things that basically, you know, I can tell you not a lot of people in the Microplace have that's there. That's the real bottom line And if you want to basically bring up your probability of having successful trades Bring your risks down and basically stay out of the market in a good amount of time Because those things have to pull together. Well, this is a workshop that you very well want to attend Tim Ord, what's going on brother? All right, we've got some some charts over actually Well, we'll start with chart one, I guess Which is the Or the top window is the SPY VIX ratio, which we're going to go over at the webinar But we did get long Friday and the reason why we did get long Friday was because of this chart Okay, and Actually, we were talking back in the I think April May period The bigger blue area on that chart I got it, you know, it's a light blue area Want to talk a little bit about that everybody was kind of bearish around that April April May period and the reason why I was bullish because of this chart and if you notice the the SPY which is basically Well be the third window up from the bottom Yes, it's just going sideways there didn't really you know, everybody think well that's testing previous highs gonna be bearish It's gonna go back down. It's an excellent to hire above that is a VIX and the VIX You know the markets going sideways and the VIX was going down So it was going up that would have been a bearish sign But it was going down and marks going sideways that means the SPY is gonna go up because when the VIX goes up Market goes down right if the VIX goes down the market goes up And so the SPX VIX ratio shows that relationship So which is the top window, but I kind of breaks it down how I stay bullish through that time frame nice and they Worked out had a decent rally. Oh, it definitely worked out man. You're going long Friday Like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well Friday We're long again and as a little bit smaller season a little bit smaller Deal if you go way to the right, you know It's a kind of blown-up window there and you can see what what happened You can see the SP is going down into Friday and the next window higher is a VIX. Well, actually who is making While the SP's was making lower lows the VIX was making Lower highs and so which is the top one was the VIX went sideways So the VIX was actually going bullish, you know Another is making going down why the SP's was going down and you get those two indices going the same direction You're gonna have a reversal. That's exactly what happened. That is so cool. Yeah, let me put this I'm gonna put this There's a big VIX shot. I just put up here two folks. You can see what Tim's talking about. Yeah, that's it That's intriguing man. It really is. Wow. Okay. Yeah, so You know as long as that VIX keeps going down so instead of watching advanced clients and all those other Stuff, you know, they still make life too complicated, which you know, it's it's If as long as if you know if you know today's VIX is down quite a bit and it is it's all 75, right? Yeah, right and and the SP's is up. That's exactly what's supposed to happen Right and and long as that keeps going that way, you know be hold on to this this trade So I don't any worries and sign right now. They let me ask you this Tim, you know, wait I can I can see there's no doubt, you know, the you know, you nailed this nice the coming, you know Rejecting lower price the whole ball of wax. What do you think that? So let me ask you this The you know we're coming off this and it looks like the volume is dropping off pretty dramatically I mean we have the Fed tomorrow. So maybe the volume will pick back up But where's your head on like volumes these days after after you let's say you let's say this is an intermediate bottom and Right that you got an extra question. That's an excellent question actually back in the day You know, that's okay You have a selling climax and you go into a buying climax and everybody related that to the volume. Yeah, and Marcus can go up on light volume because there's no sellers left. Oh, I know That's being shot Yeah, that's what instead of looking at volume to flip to chart four. Okay, and Chart four what's important here? The volume is important, but It's not as important as advanced applying. Okay, and so even though volumes light on going up here Chart number four is is the swag breath thrust indicator Okay, that's hard to say. Yeah, but anyhow to get a bottom You got to have a selling or a capitulation then you got to have a sign of strength and everybody referred There's a sign of strength always in volume all volume can produce a sign of strength But also the advance the client can do a sign of strength so you can have either or both, okay? So right now we don't have a sign of strength and volume That's a good feedback and and let me let me ask you on this is where egg You know Method so yeah, so do we start counting again? Meaning because we don't have a sign of strength yet, but let's pitch it tomorrow we have the Fed come in and The market likes it then we get a sign of strength and then then we start counting. What is it ten days again? Or is it a week? No, you start counting when this which is the bottom window First you got a capitulation on his leg breath thrust indicator get capitulation is a reading both below point four Oh, I got it. Okay. Okay. So and last Friday, I think we had point three eight Then we closed above it Monday now to get a brag thrust indicator So now there's a sign of strength you need this indicator go from point four to point six and ten days I got it ten days is Cool Week from or two weeks from last Friday. Yes, that's when you start counting and yesterday We had a point four three on it now We got looks like about point four eight. Okay or so, so we got another week or so as you get it a Swag breath thrust indicator you can do it on this indicator get a sign of strength You can also do it on the summation decks and actually you can even do it on the Macaulay oscillator, so it's different indicators you can use But the vast decline indicator is a better sign of strength indicator than volume s That's great to know point if you get volume with it that doesn't that adds to the bullish case But you don't have to have it Okay, just stay right there folks Stay right there ten and listen folks in between this break get over to our website If you want to understand these ratios folks and understand how Tim looks at the market and understand probability risk Ratio reward in the marketplace come over to our website at TF&M a week from today. It's gonna be an awesome Workshop, it's only $149 one from four to five thirty Tim and I come on that back stay right there folks Welcome back folks that Tim or Tom over and we do appreciate your growl on a prowl with us And we had a question and what the question specifically is is that Tim's ratios for the webinar easily recreated in any type of system such as think a swim are they proprietary ratios that They are proprietary ratios folks of but the bottom line he's gonna give them to you so you can recreate them in two seconds Yes, that I mean that's what the webinar is all about if you want to really understand, you know, how he looks at the market Yeah, you know bottom line is it you're gonna have you're gonna have the formulas And it's more than just a formulas folks because what ends up happening is that you know that there has to be an answer and question Period so you can really understand, you know, what you're looking for on a continual basis So yes, then you're gonna have the formulas. That's the bottom line and they are easily created. Yeah, which is pretty cool So, okay, so where were we here as for fun go to church to okay I always had you know, you know, you can't catch a falling knife to call these falling knife markets and stuff, right? You know, I don't know. That's that's the term that people shot at me I said, how you do what do you try to do catch a falling knife? Well, here's an indicator that a falling knife is when the markets just open up and just goes right through the floor Yes, so everybody scatters and they head for the exit and What that what they're missing here is a great opportunity But you have an indicator to catch a falling knife you can't like, okay, that's close up I'm gonna go in right and you know, you get flat inside of the head or something. Well, this indicator Well, well, so you know when a falling knife market is going on and so anyhow, the Second window down from the top is a bvi x which is a vix of the vix Okay, and it and it really kind of accelerates the declines pretty good And so I put an indicator to which is the bottom window Which is a ROC which is rate of change on a three period method So every time this rate of change on the bvi x is above 25 You're looking at at least a short-term bottom. I say those red lines across there are when The ROC three period ROC of the big vvi x Was triggered And so, you know this last decline we didn't get it, but it doesn't catch every signal You know like in that blue area coming off the top. Yes, there was really no panic There was no acceleration of the vix to the upside so that's reason why I think the market declined so much Because there was no fear right, you know the vix is kind of the vvi x is kind of another fear gauge of the vix So but all these you know short-term, you know that if you're an option trader this indicator is good to know Big time you're going in Knowing that you got panic in the vix going straight up and panic always comes up bottoms You got no panic. You got no bottom and so, you know, so ideally You got to know where panic forms and how to deal with it. So this indicator, you know last time we got panic Was at the May 2023 low Because the ROC got up to around over 40 you only need above 25 and that pretty much marked the bottom market went straight up Yes, it is Yeah, and Another indicator that kind of helps I usually kind of at least put two indicators to a On to it Another is your eye, which is a top window. It's kind of just another aid of Anyhow when the RSI of the VV ox gets above 70 or so okay kind of reinforces the the ROC of three, right? You know, but these these are excellent for option traders because options, you know Once you get a sign of weakness or a you know, you got to have a you know, right after you get a sign of strength So if you don't get a sign of weakness, you really don't get a sign of strength So in other words, if you're dog if you're trading the dull market Yeah, your your premiums on your options are going to go through the floor. I know I know you're just going nowhere So you want to buy options and volatility and this is a way to define volatility if you look at all those trades You know, you went through the floor when merely you you know, you jack right out of it straight up And what Tim say so pitch this folks are gonna put this up here for a second so you can see how this works So if you're in the option market, you know bottom line Do you do understand how this works? But I just want to explain it just for a few minutes for so folks can really understand this So when Tim went long on Friday, so what happens is this folks? Okay, so when the market's going down just as Tim said right the bottom line is that you know The call option premium is basically going through the floor Because people are buying puts that's that's just how it goes, you know so that Like the correlation that if you can get close to you know highs or lows and it doesn't get close You don't have to nail them the bottom line is that inside the option market You can make it up to the premium in two seconds flat because as soon as the market starts going higher again the option premium inside of the Whatever you're trading in this case the spy bottom line gets fed in immediately. That's just how it goes You know so, you know and what happens inside the option market, you know You're you're only talking, you know Sometimes whether it's 10 or 20 cents, but that 10 or 20 cents is a huge amount of percentage And then you wake up in the morning and you know the bottom line is that they get they put premium back into them So pretty cool, man. Yeah, right. Well, you know for instance that period we talked about you know, we had that The May or no that be it be it not be that March 2023 low. Yes, we guys circled there went to 40 so the market rallied up and you know the right after that that May sideways move. Yes, see you we should you never want to get in a sideways move by Calls or put because all you're gonna do is just waste your premium. That's right. The market's going sideways So what this chart does it picks out all the high volatility periods and gets you in and close to a significant low where your odds of winning increase significantly because you're not going into a sideways market You're going into a ball to market. That's you know, slamming down And so, you know, it's like a ball you throw a ball hard hardly, you know, hard down It's gonna bounce and so you're what you're doing is you're going into a situation where the mall the the market Ball, I guess you might say is slammed against the cement floor and it's gonna rebound up Right, that's where you're going to make your money at so your odds increase significantly That's my point up there. Yeah, I know that it's a great point to Tim, you know, it's a huge point it and you know If you don't trade options folks, it's still a great deal Okay, but you know when we do have an option player it gets even more intense because you don't have to you know Go for you know bottom big dollars inside the option market when it you know trading Right now because it's penny-wide inside the option market and you can trade them every single day, which is pretty amazing You know the one-day options have changed everything inside the marketplace man I mean, it's like, you know, what do you want it one day two days three days, you know those one-day things You know, this would be a great indicator You can call me when when you think something that I could you know, we could talk about it No, no for sure. I mean, do you remember Tim in the 90s? We used to have to wait for white light in there I mean white light and folks would only be once a month man We have to wait all month, you know for the last week and you know with the bottom line is that you know It's totally different now stay right there. Tim and I are gonna be coming right back and come over to our website Folks you can sign up for this web webinar right now. It's next Tuesday You're gonna love it. That's the bottom line Stay right there folks come right back Welcome back folks to doubt now is up to 97 as except 47. That's the piece up 23 And don't forget folks man. Mr. Tim or do I'm speaking with right now next Tuesday. He's gonna be doing this workshop It's from four to five thirty. It's only a hundred and forty nine dollars You have all those ratios and you will have the formulas for the ratios That's what this is all about folks You normally have the formula for the ratios bottom line Tim will walk you through it and answer all the questions that you have This is a fast hour Tim, and it's blowing my mind actually so what shot would you like to look at next? To three. Okay. Just real quick. This is this is a weekly SPY in the bottom window is SPY vix Vix ratio, okay, and There's a couple different things on this chart I put the Bollinger ban on the weekly SPY and Every time the Bollinger or the SPY closes below the lower Bollinger ban You usually at a bottom and then we did that on on Friday. Yes, and also when it closes above The upper Bollinger ban you least gonna go sideways here But that was I was watching that on on the clothes on Friday. Okay really got me along Was the bottom window the mark was down hard and the SPY vix ratio was actually sideways It didn't it didn't go down Interesting it went sideways. That's some divergence. Yeah, I'm sorry go ahead. No, that's some divergence, right? Yeah, right Yeah, it's divergence. Yeah, you know the mark goes down vix post go up But but this ratio the only reason why I did the SPY vix ratio because it You know if you do the other way anyhow Because the vix goes up when the mark goes down sure and so what that was saying And the mark was going down and the vix was going down with it That's reason why that ratio went sideways So you got a divergence and that blue areas and I've done it in the past You can see what happened in the past. They all picked out lows And then you had the Bollinger be and at the lower end. So that was your second one pretty cool, man Pretty cool, right and that's why you got me along. I like it. I like it. Okay folks, you know Tim Thank you so much. You have a great one safe one Of course, we look forward to speaking you on Thursday and folks, you know bottom-on you have a great night a safe night This was a fast hour man, and don't forget. We got Tim right on the front page. Have a great one folks Have a safe one