 Welcome, it's April 6 2022. This is the Jenkins governance meeting. Thanks for being here by way of agenda we've got news action items, meeting time adjustment, expense approvals for security team I think is under control but I wanted to bring it here just in case. The Ukraine invasion by Russia and the Jenkins project topic that I think we want to check status to be sure that the technique I used is okay. CDF awards may really just belong under under news, because it's not. I don't know if there's anything we need to do about it. Jenkins is the way replacement site. Gavin, I assume we want to have a little more discussion there. I don't know. There is more we can discuss it but I'm not sure there's anything necessary for the government and we did talk about last meeting so. Okay, so, so if you're okay I'm going to, I'm going to take community awards and the, and the Jenkins is the way off the topic because I don't think there's anything that as a governance board we need to discuss in them. Okay. Great. Then, any no other topics to add. I'm, I agree with Oleg. I don't think Jenkins project invaded Ukraine. Oh right right sorry I should use. Sorry, how to. Okay. So how about even how and how it relates to the Jenkins project. Very good. Yes, that's right. Yeah, so. Although I do kind of want the resources to invade things. Okay, great. Okay, so good. Is that a better phrasing of it. Thanks very much for the correction. Okay. Alright, so by way of news. Yes, we released a new long term support release yesterday. The change log is available. The release went smoothly. No surprises. No, no, no disasters. Yes, we're using system be. Yes, we're running with the new UI improvements, looking better. Thanks for that one thing that someone on the forum was mentioning about constant logging or whatever. Yes, it includes, it includes a few fixes and it's a relatively few fixes it's five or six fixes. And one change to the Windows installer that now it if you choose Java eight from the Windows installer it will raise a nice warning box to you and say, really we're going to Java 11 you should choose Java 11 instead. It won't stop you but it just tells you look you've chosen JDK we we there's not not got a long life with us. Okay, anything else on news. All right, action items. I've still got to that I've not made progress and I need to check with Tracy Miranda on the foster funds transfer and finish the Linux Foundation transfers from GSOC 2021. And since we're coming up on GSOC 2022 soon to be in progress that those are good things to have. Now the big question does the meeting time need to adjust because of daylight saving time and the answer. Evelina suggests yes. Yes. Now if it's, do we want one hour earlier two hours earlier what what works for each of the people in the room we've got we've got four of us here. Mark and I table fifth and say oh no it has to stay now forever. No, no, no. Right, thanks. No I have no problem two hours earlier or three hours earlier or an hour earlier Evelina what works for you. Two hours, two hours earlier would be perfect for me but I will I'll be okay with one hour earlier I. Oleg how about you. Would prefer one hour earlier. So if it's two hours most likely I wouldn't be able to join because of parenting. So we either do it much much earlier let's say in European working hours timeframe. Could be an option but I would be different for that eight hours. Yeah, so that would well European working hours would so right now in Europe it's 10pm is that right. Yes, Evelina for you it's you and Oleg it's 10pm is that right. Right now it's 11. Oh my six. That's why I'm complaining. As you should. Okay, so yeah 10pm I understand. If it's if it's much earlier than than than now then I don't know it may it may become a little bit complicated if one hour earlier works for Oleg then we can just one hour earlier. Well I can do two hours earlier. My preference would be then three or four hours earlier. So two hours earlier is exactly the time when my son goes to the bed. So it's probably the most unpredictable time. And Evelina does three or four hours work earlier work better for you or is it is, are those now infeasible for you. Or three, three, three is perfectly okay. Okay, three or three and a half. Yeah. I wonder. So if it's just us four we can definitely find time, including just moving it one hour, whether we could have anyone else participating by adjusting the time but it's separate topic. And I think, for instance, I know that Daniel Beck has occasionally attended, and he's a relatively later evening person so I'm not overly worried I think we'll likely get his attendance at any one of those alternate times. Vadak I don't know for sure. Damian, probably none of them right they're all well outside his usual working hours. But if we did much earlier, I think we could, because Damian's usually on when I come on, not when I come on 10 o'clock my 10am my time is when he usually disappears. So that would be four hours earlier. That would be pushing it for me, just because my meetings I tend to have meetings at 9am. We could do a little bit earlier and do before my work day starts. Yeah, if two or one, two or three. Actually, yeah, anything other than exactly for I think it'd be happy with. Oh, okay, so. Okay, so I have I have a 9am meeting, and it's currently 2pm. So whatever the math for that one, I don't want to miss the 9am one every, every week, every two weeks. I got it. Okay, so we've got choices four and a half hours earlier three and a half earlier hours earlier three hours earlier or two hours earlier that all work for Gavin. Or 10 hours later. Or 10 hours later. Yeah, so midnight my time would be perfect. Okay. 10 hours 10 hours later is is 3am for you though. So I don't think it can work. Well, 10 hours actually 10 hours later. Later on a Wednesday is not workable for me because I have personal commitments. So you have personal commitments at 3am. This is crazy. No 10 hours from now will only be my time will only be eight or 9pm. No 13. No, you're right. No, no, that's you're right. I'd be asleep. I'm bad at time math again. Yes. No, I 10 hours later is not workable for me. I won't know. But I talked to you for a lot at that time slot so I'm good. Anyways. So, like, in terms of predictability for you if we went three hours or three hours earlier, you say you could do. Okay, and Evelina three hours earlier would work for you. Yes. Okay, so, and Gavin double check three hours earlier. So it's two, one 1211 yeah 11 fine. Okay, all right. So three and three hours is great for me because this time happens to be colliding with the start of my personal commitments. So it's great moving at three hours earlier is really good for me so so I take that as decision. Three hours earlier, and action mark adjust the calendar calendar, the Jenkins.io site, etc. Okay, let me just don't check the math because this did you say four was better. I will survive. Oh no I was from thinking I'm just looking. So if it's two, three of that is 11 so four is 1010 I can do 10 is great nine was what I was trying to avoid so four is good five is not. Okay, so four works for you better like I'm happy with four. For works for me better. Yeah. I'll make it work yes. 7pm or 10. Yeah, just trying to figure out how my yoga schedule schedule fits in but no. I'll be okay with the and we could do to half hours right we could do four and a half or three and a half, Evelina if you've got. No. Yeah, no I know I don't really care that much it's going to be okay really. Yes. And again we have, if, if when we meet two weeks from now we find it does not work we just tell each other and we fix it. Yeah, this meeting can change times as much as we need it to. Okay, great. All right, so I will, I will do that adjustment for our reaction items remark, because Mark really needs more action. Well, in this case that's it that's an easy I like easy action items because I can actually get them done. Okay, so. Next topic was expense approvals for the security team I think last time we discussed that Vodek had been granted expensive I access. Approved. Yeah, we will approve them yeah. Okay, so approved done. Great, thank you. But at the moment, all leg is currently the only one on the board that can improve. Yes, and the message together to understand what's our status administration weekend, I haven't heard back yet. Okay, so and that's, that's to the Linux foundation people. So I guess I will submit the official ticket for that. Great. Okay. All right, so then. Next topic was the Ukraine invasion by Russia, Russia and how it relates to the Jenkins project I submitted an email asking for additional votes sorry, the embarrassing thing here's I just submitted it today so I don't have any actual results to, to share, other than the request has gone out I propose we look at it in two weeks if we don't already have enough votes during the next week to help us do a decision by email. We will be voting on that. All I invited them to do was go do a plus one as a comment on the poll request. Oh, okay. My hope is that we won't be bombarded by spam from somebody but if we are GitHub has made mechanisms to manage spam. No, that's fine. I just assumed we would use. Actually, no, I when I saw that email I assumed there would be on the forms because we have voting there but no get back to work just fine that's fine. Oh, and I should have used forums yeah. Any chance to draw people into the forums I'm right right. Well, it's it's a good reminder Mark should have used could could have used. Yeah, I could should I don't care which is to host the voting because it does have a good voting scheme and we've already used we used it for governance voting. So, yes. Okay, good. I don't think we do anything we use the external. Well, how do I say it we used it read for registration for governance voting. Yeah, you're right. Okay, fair. Anything else on that topic. Okay, next one then is the contributor summit. We've still got an open question with with links foundation events team on the specific date of the summit. Well, their Alyssa continues to ask that question with them. And it will still be the intent is on site summit. And then if we've got interests in it. If desired will consider a separate online summit afterwards. Some time after questions or concerns there. I can only confirm that there is exactly zero chance I'm going to the United States. I understood, or anywhere for what it was. I won't have a passport from May to August. And it's just the best possible scenario. Good luck. Okay, so best of luck and and that's that's can't be made easier by all of the complications internationally sorry oh like, wow. I have no passport now so. Oh, I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out when I can kind of set up set up an appointment to get it but yet. I expect myself to go to us this summer either. I mean, I haven't worked and I'm still not going to be going so. Yeah, I spent two months just to set an appointment. So the appointment is finally set to 24th of May. It may take something like three months to make the passport. And it's a silly, obviously, taking the current situation is war, etc. I don't think that a slave exactly going to be maintained. Oh, ouch. Oh, I am so sorry. Oh, ouch, ouch, ouch. And then I need to get the US visa. Right, right. Good luck with that. Yeah, oh my. My reason said is easier. I'm a Russian citizen, so nothing is going to be easy for me in the coming years. I guess I will settle in Switzerland a bit. Good luck. Ouch. Well, Jenkins contributing contributor summit in Switzerland them. That's what we're doing. I think I think that is a good I would I would enjoy that I intend to be in Europe in October. And so I have, I have a personal a friend in October in Italy that I'm visiting in October. So maybe we ought to consider a Switzerland, October contributor summit but that that's for later. Let's talk about it. All right, so anything else on CD con and 20 Jenkins contributor summit. All right, next topic then was Google summer of code progress report and we're in the, the submissions are being accepted now. And the deadline was extended extended. I didn't know about the review, the review. That's, that's a that's an internal that's an internal Jenkins project that line. Yes, so, so internal, internal or let's call it what it is reviews and comments of draft proposals are due by the end of this week from the mentors from the and we should use the word potential there potential mentors. And then the final PDFs submitted to Google by candidates. I believe is April is it April 19. See the see the timeline. So, Alyssa and john mark. Alyssa Tong and john mark Mason are running the process with Chris turn stern so the three of them are doing the org admin work and we've had a number of good sessions, sessions discussing project ideas, refining, improving, etc. So it's looking promising. Oh, and I missed one item just to tell everyone she code Africa contributon has started. Seven, seven contributors from Africa working for six weeks being mentored by individuals in the Jenkins project started April 5. And we're in the community bonding period right now we'll do that for two weeks and the project work will run for four weeks, and then two weeks of wrap up forums and topics. So, get Gavin, did you want to take this one. I'll admit I don't really have anything prepared. I do know that we had the announcement this should go in the news we did have the announcements for shell for spring shell, spring shell generally not Jenkins is not affected. We did shut down the custom distribution service that was a G soft project last year. It's kind of been abandoned. But everything else we essentially were like yep, it doesn't affect us we've got our test received to be okay. Then there's a UX scale thing from Tim that was announced today that design the weekly in the design library. Yes, yes very good. And then there was another post I'm just thinking for memory I haven't pulled it up. There's another post about a shared library someone made and published so people can use and do it. We can dig up the link for it but it's in this showing off section of the forums. Oh basil had the basil the basil basil basil has the Java tooling for Java 17 so. So the one that was exciting to me, there's SQL light. You'll see for Jenkins. Yeah, that was one that busy week actually. Yes. So, and that was again by basal crow and it was, it was operational right so he was storing the X, what the Jason, Jason versions of the extreme objects. I didn't look into it too deeply. I think that's what he was doing so he and described it so. I'll try to get links for all these after the meeting and fill them in. Right. Nothing else comes to mind I would normally I'd like to go look at skin the post but I didn't do it and so. Yeah, so and on the Jenkins tooling for Java 17 mark. I found another mistake in the get plug in. As a result of that and it's, it's fixed now and merged so the get plug in is running tests with Java 17 in addition. Sorry just had one to. Oh, speaking of get plug in translations. Yeah, oh right and that one we should know, particularly Evelina and Oleg because your native language speakers of in a language in languages of interest. So, crowd in crowd in enterprise experiment is running with Alexander Taylor. Alex, no, no, Alex brand us sorry, not Taylor. That's you may recognize not my fault from GitHub, and it makes makes translating Jenkins messages much more pleasant. And web user interface. It just feels much better so we'll do more experimenting with it. More experimenting in tomorrow's office hours. Docs office hours. Oh yeah sorry Docs office hours oops yes thanks. Yeah. Thanks to Alex for his work on that. I've been impressed at how easy it is to use it includes a translation and translation dictionary and recommends machine translations reuses dictionaries from the product itself so it gets better over time, really promising. Good, good reminder. Thanks, Gavin. Any other topics for today's session. No, I think, no, the only one I have is a personal one and it's not ready to go yet so I think we're good. Okay. Evelina or like anything from you. All right, thanks everybody. Yeah.