 Greetings, everyone. This is Anthony Anderson. This is the first installment of the Anthony Anderson show. I'm here with my great friend, Edward Gell. Hello, I'm Ed. And we're just going to be talking shop for a little bit. This is the first installment. So I'm going to be giving you kind of an intro into what I've been up to, my brief story. Just lay a little foundation. And then we're just going to talk about some things that we're up to these days. Great. That sounds awesome. And I know that you just got back from California. Yeah. You were in Minnesota, all kinds of places. Obviously, a lot of people are just watching Anthony for the first time. And he's really into a lot of different things that I'm really excited about as well. But you're very knowledgeable about it. Tell us, you know, do your intro to the world. My story in a nutshell was, you know, middle class, growing up, no big deal. Started going to school, finished college with a business marketing degree. As I was about to graduate, I had a chance to go to Paris and live in Paris as a model for about a year. And then at that moment, I just had so much more free time. I wasn't watching television. I was just reading books and journaling. And I just had this huge opening where I just, all these ideas started flowing in. I started caring about what I was eating. Started caring about like the earth, the environment. It was funny. It's like once the distractions went away, the ideas started flowing in. And what was nice is that all that kind of lifestyle stuff about living consciously with the clean food and exercise, it was really good for my modeling career where I started working like a lot more. And I took it to another level once I moved to New York in 2004. And then I was really starting to book some serious jobs. I was in Times Square with billboards, really good commercials. And then using that as a tool, I'm trying to get people into conscious living, eating right, eating clean, growing their own food. And the idea of replanting paradise on earth through planting fruit trees and nut trees everywhere. Yeah, that's great. I know that you've been a key component in my life to help me switch more towards a raw diet. And I really appreciate that from you. Yeah. And all the different things that you've taught me and teach everyone. I know your blog and your YouTube videos are all about that teaching. And for those of you that don't know, that's what OnlyOneTV is all about. It's about helping people, educating. And it's exactly what you're all about, which is conscious living. Yeah. What is it that you say, lifestyle for beauty? Yeah, the lifestyle for beauty. I mean, we're just trying to speed up the evolution of humanity as quick as possible, getting the information out there. And with the internet, it's really such a blessing where these ideas can spread. It's very democratic. People can just pull what they want, you know. And it's really an amazing time in history to be sharing these kind of ideas. I mean, back in the 70s or 60s, people were thinking about these things too, but maybe the technology wasn't appropriate and the ideas couldn't spread as much. So we're at a really crucial time right now. It's perfect. That's awesome. And I'm so happy that we have this network to be able to even expand it even further. But first, let's not forget our sponsors. I'd like to mention them quickly. Our first sponsor is usgoldcoins.com. And they are our trusted source to buy numismatic silver and gold coins. And you can call them as the best way to get your silver and gold, the numbers on the screen. And they also have a website, usgoldcoins.com. And also mezzigrill.com, which they're a Mediterranean food. And they're in midtown Manhattan. And they so graciously sponsor a lot of our shows. And they have great food as well. 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It's amazing what you do in a short period of time. Tell us, I know that you're very passionate about your sustained agriculture. And tell the audience what that's all about. It's really about kind of emulating nature. And if we look at the two sides of the spectrum, you have the annual monocrops. So that's like the fields of corn and soybeans and cotton. And then on the other side of that is the perennial polycultures. And that's basically nature. Because annual monocrops, they live one year. And there's a bunch of them in one place, all the same. And then with the perennial polyculture, it's a bunch of different plants. Biodiversity is very high. And then these plants live a very long time. So then when we're trying to grow food, we're going to look at that natural model. And then the more we go with that model, the less we have to fight. Because when you're trying to go further away from nature, you have to fight her to keep that system going. And that's the kind of system we've kind of fallen into by industry, big industry, right? I mean, it's very profitable because they have to use big machines. And the thing is now I feel like it's changing because the price of the fossil fuels have risen so much that it's just not going to make any sense to keep growing food that way. But we've built this entire culture and the entire world. It has been living off of these kinds of foods from the annual monocrops. So we'll see. I mean, I really hope that people get the transition going as soon as possible. I mean, when you're planting the trees and the berries and the vines, it takes a little more time. But once it's established, you're basically just harvesting. And then your harvesting levels, your food is coming from different levels. Like you have down here, you have maybe your basil or your blueberries. And then you go up a little higher, you have apple trees. And then even higher, you have maybe avocado trees. And it's really a cool three-dimensional way to grow food. Right. So you've been doing this for how long now? I've been really passionate about it for about six years. And then in the spring of 2008, I planted my first one in Minnesota. And I wanted to plant it in Minnesota where my parents live. So in case things get kind of hairy in the next few decades, they're going to have a nice food source right across. It's almost like the grocery stores right across the road. Nice. And then they can just boom pick. It's just a matter of picking it. You know, we've got all the raspberries coming and gooseberries are coming. And it's just like, it's really for the convenience and the health knowing that it's not sprayed, knowing who picked it and who grew it with love. It's really like a cool way to do this. And I'm just, I'm really feeling like it's the answer to all of our problems. Because once a family were to start doing these kinds of methods, they're eating clean food, they're reconnecting with nature. You know, they all of a sudden have a heart to make, you know, make the world a better place. And it's really like you're replanting paradise in your own backyard. And in a way, you can almost look at the Garden of Eden as a model that was given to us. And it just blows my mind that more people haven't tried to copy that yet. Instead of just feeling like, oh, we got kicked out. And, you know, Adam and Eve got kicked out and we're screwed and now we're living in this, you know, whatever, not the best paradise possible. Instead, I'd say, let's just replant it and get on with it. Just live in that world. And more than physically replanting it, replanting it in our hearts too. Knowing that we're angels here on the planet or, you know, angels is such a loaded word, but just, you know, enlightened souls, spirits to help, you know, each other evolve to the next level. But you did it not just for your parents, but you did it because it's really a project for the globe, basically, because you want to teach people how to do the same thing, right? Yeah. And you've already done that. I have, yeah. I give talks. I was in Venice at the Venice Community Garden two weeks ago, and I gave a two-hour-long talk about the need for urban food forests and getting people into it in the cities. A lot of people think that they've got to move out into the boondocks and, you know, start their farm and all the hard work that goes along with that, but really, people aren't leaving cities anytime soon. Unless things get really wacky, everyone's still going to be in the cities, so we need to start planting the trees and the bushes there, and then, you know, we can just have this paradise garden with skyscrapers coming out through it. Yeah, I know. I've seen some photographs of prototypes of urban food forests, and I know for sure that in Detroit, because there's been such urban blight there, they've started taking these big homes and converting them into big farms, and it's all about hydroponics and organics, which is, I think, incredible for an urban setting, right? Yeah. It's funny. It's almost like the, what do they say, necessity is the mother of invention. And I really feel like that's what was happening there, and people were really on the down and outs. There's all this degraded land which is open, and people are now converting it. And the same thing was with me. I was really scared about the peak oil stuff and global warming and all, whatever, and it scared me to the point of, oh, I've got to plant this food forest. I've got to get this planted fast. And my whole goal was to have it totally planted by the age of 30. And I feel like I reached it. I mean, you can always plant a few more things, but everything's pretty well-planted. And then I started another one in the desert of Phoenix, Arizona. Right. And that's more of a desert food forest, tree canopies, citrus underneath, a lot of like blackberries. And we've got chickens there. So it's kind of cool to show there's the model in Minnesota, and then there's like a desert model in the... I think that's excellent work that you've done. I wanted to know what's your typical day like when you've been in Minnesota this summer already. But before we do that, I wanted to ask you a question. Constance in the chat room is asking, how do we participate in this form of living consciously where we live and work in the city where this level of private, sustainable planting isn't possible? Absolutely. I was growing wheatgrass in my apartment for a very long time doing sprouts. If you have a window with a southern-facing exposure, if you're in the northern hemisphere, or vice versa, if you're in the south, you can grow fruit trees in your window or berry bushes, a lot of herbs. You can do the hydroponic setups. And now I've really realized, if you want to take part in this and you're living in the city and you can't fully do it, there are a lot of those that are. So support the organic farmers, support the biodynamic people, people that are harvesting stuff from food forests. People selling chocolate. Chocolate is like an integral part of a food forest where it likes to grow in the shade. And so people are growing it in the shade of Brazil nut trees, and that way you never have to deforest anything. And you're still pulling food and it's supporting the indigenous people of those areas. And that's really like the key is to support those that are growing. Well, I know for me it's like I'm growing. I have a pepper plant and I've got the sapote, which I think you had planted a long time ago. And I've got another tree that I adopted from you, which that's a long story, which I haven't told you. That one lost all its leaves. I thought it was dead, but I gave it lots of positive energy. I was like, this one cannot go. And it's still there, thank God. But what's your, we have a balcony so we can do that, but for people that don't have a balcony in an urban setting, would that still apply? Oh, absolutely. And you could always look into the community gardens and you could look into guerrilla gardening as well, where maybe you go to an abandoned parking lot, you start sprinkling dandelion seeds around. Guerrilla gardening. And that way it's almost like your garden has expanded to your neighborhood. It's not just your little backyard plot, it's really your entire area, your living space. There's a lot of seeds that grow really well without human intervention. Some of the stuff that we're used to, like maybe tomatoes and peppers, they need a little more coddling, a little more care. Lettuce is a good example. The slugs will just eat up the lettuce. But there's other stuff, like nettles, burdock, dandelion, that just grow really well. The medicinal content is so high, the leaves are really bitter, that the pests can only eat so much of it. So guerrilla gardening is really good. Because I know that where I live, I think that the windows, I have big windows, but I think they must have some kind of film on them, because I can't seem to get my orchids to flower. They seem to only flower when I take them out and things like that. So I think that these are things that I'm just becoming aware of, but obstacles obviously that we have to face in doing this. But what's your typical day in your Minnesota? I saw a picture in your blog with a teepee, so tell us from the start to the end of the day. I recently purchased the teepee because I wanted just a temporary living space that could be taken down and moved somewhere else, and it didn't increase the property taxes, which I thought was really cool. And then it's just kind of appealing where people would like it. I'll wake up. It depends when I go to sleep. When I'm in Minnesota, I usually try to go to sleep around 10 or 11, and then I sleep in the teepee there. Wake up. I'll usually check it out, walk around the garden for a little bit, see if anything needs some work, do some stretches. I like to lay out in the sun on the sun deck that we built and do some stretches, even laying out there naked to get a lot of the sun all over your body. I think that's a really important thing where there's certain parts of our body that never see the sun. And it's strange enough a lot of those parts get cancer. So trying to let the sun heal those parts and then maybe make breakfast around three hours later, around 11 o'clock. And how are you making your breakfast? Breakfast recently has been a lot of smoothies, but it's been more animal-based. So I'm doing raw eggs, milk, grass-fed milk, and really the quality is important where you want to buy these products from people that really care. Eggs are really awesome because you can always tell the quality based on the yolk. If it's a really nice dark yellow-orange yolk, the birds are eating really good food. And if it's kind of a pale yellow, they're just eating grains. They're basically getting concentrated grains instead of concentrated greens and bugs and whatever else they're eating. So I'll make a smoothie and throw some berries in, maybe some vanilla protein powder. I'm a real big fan of Sun Warrior. They've got some awesome protein powder. And then, you know, kind of go on, maybe I'll work out a little bit. I like to do the P90X style that we were doing for, I mean, that was awesome. I use those same exercises, but I kind of do them sporadically throughout the day. So like if I'm at home, maybe watching something on Netflix or I'll just kind of do this, you know, and just do some stomach crunches or I'll do the, you know, do the barbells and just kind of multi-task within that pair. It makes it easier to keep the exercises up if I'm kind of distracting myself with either a podcast or interviews, of course. And then videos, yeah. It kind of makes it a little more enjoyable. Yeah. I know that people in the chat rooms and you were in one of the other shows a couple of weeks ago. They were talking about your abs. Oh, yeah. They must have seen it somewhere. They were saying, we want to see Anthony's abs. So does that conclude your day? Well, the day's kind of random. If I'm in Minnesota, it's just kind of like what needs to be done. Around the forest. Yeah, around the food forest. Right. And that might be pulling some weeds. I mean, this food forest is in its fourth year now. So it's getting close to self-preservation, but it still needs a little help with pulling weeds from around the trees and just seeing if anything needs harvesting. You know, maybe my dad's a woodworker, so I go down to his shop and I help him out if he needs some stuff. It's kind of almost like a semi-retired lifestyle up there because all my needs have been taken care of. You know, I don't have rent because I live in a TP. I have, I have, it was a lot of upfront expenses. You know, like I had to have the well-drilled and that was like $7,000, but now my water is free, you know. And my bills are just very low. My electric bill might be $30 a month because it's just to pump the water and maybe run my laptop. And so it's kind of just like I do what I want to do. I'm studying French right now and listening to podcasts, stretching. It's just kind of a very random, random day, but I'm always mixing in self-improvement throughout the day. But you didn't mention any real work. I know. Well, that's the thing. It's like maybe there's one day that I have to go somewhere and get a load of compost or manure and then I'll be, you know, shoveling with the buckets and that's super intense, but that might be one day out of 30. And the rest is just kind of casual weeding. You know, like I'll have some seedlings and I'll put them in. You know, it's very casual, much worse. But it does require hands-on. I mean, obviously. Absolutely. So you need the time to be able to create this great forest. Yeah. And that's one thing that we're always lacking over here. But there has to be a way that we can combine that with the city living like you were saying and make it, you know, worth our while. Oh, sure. Somebody's asking here at Rosemary Vargas, what is the lowest maintenance, easiest, nutritious food to plant? Lowest maintenance. I would probably say dandelion. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Those are fast and easy, huh? Yeah. I mean, because you get, the whole thing is edible. You can eat the flowers and at least roots. And then it's just like, wow, they get so big if you leave them alone for a while. I mean, their leaves, when you see young dandelions, maybe the leaves are that big. But if you let them go a few years, leaves are that big, you know, so. Yeah, I know. I love dandelions, but they make you go to the bathroom a lot. Yeah, it is kind of a deretic. I like to mix them into my other salads because they are quite bitter, especially the ones that are growing. There's varieties that are a little more domesticated, but yeah, if you just mix in the wild ones, do a little juice. Nettles are another one too. All those like, they're called dynamic accumulators where the roots really go down and they pull up a lot of stuff that's a little further down. And burdock is another good example of that too. And you can do, is it possible to do those indoors, you think? Oh, absolutely. Oh, really? As long as you've got enough sun. Yeah, really. Like how many hours would you say of sun? Four or five. Oh, I can do that at home then. And especially with these greens, because the greens really just, they don't need as much juice to produce the fruit. If you're seeing tomatoes and peppers, they need a lot of juju to get it going. But the greens, they're just making greens. They're not trying to make fruit, so it's a little bit easier. That's awesome. Somebody wants to know, what podcast do you listen to? Oh, I'm a big fan, and we're all tied in with this, is One Radio Network, Patrick Timpone. That stuff changed my life. Because he's pulling from all over the place, not just maybe a raw vegan paradigm, but he's pulling from primal, this and that, life improvement, financial stuff with Andy Goss. I mean, just really life-changing information. Which, you know, he's coming to only one TV. I do. They're both coming, right? That's awesome. And that's a good one. And then I'll listen to the Coffee Break French that I've been listening to. Your French lessons. Yeah, that's on iTunes. I'll just even put some stuff on YouTube and just listen to the audio. Cool. And how about, Théodore Rosemary wants to know, do you have an outhouse composting toilet in Minnesota with your TP lifestyle? No compost of yet, but I definitely go outside. So I kind of have an area that's accumulating my compost. Right. And humanure. Which is fertilizer. It's humanure, yeah. Humanure is, that's the thing. Humanure, they call it. And I eat a clean diet, so I'm not scared of it. And I just kind of go back behind my deck over there where it's kind of quiet and people don't walk by. Right. And it's just kind of, it's accumulating underneath a hardy kiwi of all things. So if anyone's buying hardy kiwis from me in the next few years, they'll be blessed in more ways than one, for sure. How about Anthony Miguel wants to know, can you speak about Camp Trolls? By the way, guys, you know, we're talking about a lot of different subjects and the whole idea behind this show is that it's a talk show, as you can see. But Anthony's going to be the host. Not me. So I'm asking a lot of questions. But it's just to kind of get, get you guys to get a feel for Anthony. But we're going to have speakers and guests, whether they're live or on Skype here on the monitor and experts in all these topics, because we want to hear what they have to say as well and learn from them. And so, yeah, Miguel wants to know about Camp Trolls. Yeah, the Camp Trolls. I kind of tuned into Camp Trolls about two years ago. And then should we go to, do you want to go to breakers? No, no, go ahead. Okay. It's the big fat white lines in the sky that just kind of dissipate and they haze out the whole sky. And a friend of mine mentioned this. Actually, David Wolf was the first one to mention Camp Trolls. And I was like, what the heck, Camp Trolls, you know? It's almost like you don't notice it until you actually look up. We're so busy with our day-to-day life. Right. And I just started noticing the big fat white lines and then other planes wouldn't leave them. But other planes wouldn't. And they're not the same altitude. It wasn't like a magic number, it seemed. And then they're just hazing out the beautiful blue sky. So I was like, what's going on here? And then I saw the movie What in the World Are They Spraying? And they're talking about like the aluminum and the barium in there. And then how, you know, they're trying to, maybe geo-engineering, like trying to block the sunshine out. Or even trying, sometimes I think they're trying to reduce the vitamin D in everybody. You know, really shading everyone out so our immune systems go. I mean, it could be sinister. It might be, it might be all in our heads, but it's something that I never notice as a kid. I never notice the big fat white lines. You usually, if it's a contrail, it'll disappear after about 10 seconds, you know, following the plane. But these just stay and then they spread. Right. And whether or not there's chemicals in them, it's a ruining, a beautiful blue day, a blue sunny day and there's nothing cool about that. I don't know much about it, but you know, who knows, everyone's so skeptical about those kind of things. So it's hard to really get an authoritative figure to give you a definitive answer on that. Oh yeah, there's so many things. You can see a lot of stuff on YouTube where some weathermen, that used to be in the Marines, they would say, oh yeah, they're going to lie about this, but it's actually chemtrails and blah, blah, blah. What was the name of the movie? What in the world are they spraying? And where do you find that? It's on YouTube for free, but you can buy the DVD too. Great. Yeah. And there's another, oh, there's a website called weathermodification.com and it's a commercial business that actually tries to modify the weather by injecting, they say silver iodide into the clouds. Oh, I've heard of this, yeah. So when people in the government are saying, oh, we can't do this, yeah, we can't do this, oh, they're already doing it. Yes. And I think they were doing it in Vietnam. I mean, they were forcing rain to come down and just rain out the North Vietnamese. So they couldn't, and this is well known, but then they're still saying that they can't do it yet. Right. A lot of weird double speak. Hmm. And I know someone in Phoenix who made friends with a weather person, a meteorologist there, and he told her after a few drinks that the government took them to Luke Air Force Base and showed them the whole operation but told them, like, you can't talk about this. Like, probably made him sign non-disclosure. Yeah. So all the weathermen, that's the one thing I always wondered, like, the weathermen, they see, you know, the day-to-day stuff and they never talk about the sky being hazed out by planes. Mm-hmm. How bizarre is that? Right. That's the weirdest thing. No. Because if you were to look at, you know how they do that fast speed throughout the day, you know, like the clouds rolling in, if you were to watch one of those, like... And then it's hazy. Right. You know? But does it concentrate around urban cities or rural or both? It seems like it would be flight paths. You know, like in Minnesota, there's a flight path and we see them once in a while, but not that much anymore, but it's always in the urban centers. Right. Yeah, because I'm reading here, Brenda's saying she lives in Los Angeles. She's been living there for 20 years and she's noticed them for the past five years. It's gotten really bad. Yeah. Yeah. And I know here, since you brought that up a few years back, I noticed them all the time. It's pretty wacky. Well, I was in California about two weeks ago and it was actually really good. You know, and I lived in LA for about six months last year and some days it's just horrible and then other days it's beautiful. You know, so I'm just wondering what's the variation? Are there just days that they spray? You know, and they call them spray days? I just think, I kind of have to think that it's some kind of, like pharmaceutical to subdue the human race in a way so we don't, you know, speak out and stand out. You know, I don't know. Well, lithium would be a good one for that and some people are suggesting that they put lithium in the water now to get people to be in a better mood and maybe it'll reduce suicide rates and all that. Really? You know, come on, that's crazy. Yeah. I mean, fluoride's crazy enough. Yeah. And yeah, speaking of water, I mean, this year I think at the beginning of the year I watched that Blue Gold. Oh, yeah. That's a great documentary on water. Blue Gold, yes. And these are, you know, again, some of these great topics that Anthony, you know, wants to cover and we're going to bring some people in here to really question these ideas and thoughts. Absolutely. Let's take a minute to go to our sponsors and we would like, you know, for our listeners and watchers to patronize them, of course. 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So let's see what else people in the chat room what kind of questions you have for Anthony I think that's being done without water oh yeah Miguel is mentioning something about the water and Brenda says Rosemary I used to watch you on the work outside years ago something about Australia nice oh yeah she was on Australia for a while what, doing what? I think she was doing some garden stuff or maybe hanging out I'm not sure maybe a woof that's a really cool program that we'll have to talk about willing it's worldwide worldwide opportunities on organic farms I think that's on organic farms and it's about permaculture yeah it's a permaculture and it's just about it gives young people or young and old alike a good chance to live in another country and then help out at an organic farm and then in exchange for 30 hours a week room and boards provided and I've done that myself where I had a friend come and stay for 10 days and then I just paid for groceries and we see you know whatever and and you basically taught him what you were doing yeah he came around followed me around for like an apprentice kind of situation yeah a little slave labor too but well hey you gotta learn somehow that's the thing and that's really where the lessons are is like oh gosh you really have to put in the time and shovel horse poop for four hours you know and those kind of things it's like a lesson but it's a lesson in hard work too yeah well from what better teacher than than you of course well we try we try I mean that's a really good chance for young people to get out and like if someone feels I have a friend that's actually kind of suicidal right now and you know just feeling like everything's in a dead end and you know where to go and I say why don't you just move to Hawaii and work on an organic farm for four months or a month you know and just get your life back together you know you don't have to stay in Minnesota so like programs like that really give people a good opportunity to kind of branch out yeah I mean you could do it in another country and learn the language learn about organic gardening live for free you know it would just be a really good opportunity for young people yeah absolutely yeah are you still vegan or still raw or what's your status I have so I was a raw vegan for 2004 to 2009 pretty much and then I started branching out I started listening to some of this one radio network I started hearing more about the western price lifestyle yeah that's excellent western price was a dentist back in the 1920s and 30s and he started seeing all the all the folks coming in with messed up teeth because what was happening was the diet was becoming more processed more refined less minerals and he figured you know he's like gosh if if you know God or the creator wanted us to be perfect you know we would be perfect obviously we're doing something wrong here so he took his wife took his poor wife around the world for ten years and they just photographed all these indigenous tribes that hadn't been touched yet by western foods and what was really cool was wherever there was a group of people that was isolated somewhere nearby there would be another group of the same ethnic background that had accepted these foods took photos measured all the cavities and everything and the contrast was stark where you know people that were living up in the hills eating their natural diet without toothbrushes were having maybe one cavity in their entire life because there was so little sugar in the diet and everything was so mineralized and then they would go down to the to the harbor maybe 20 miles away where people were doing this and oh my gosh just a casino in their mouth just messy messy messy cavities like crazy deformed jaws like not only was a bad cavities but like their faces were becoming deformed and their the bones and their jaw bones might yeah I've studied a lot about western price I think it's an incredible resource for anything for information for lifestyle you know whatever but I think and their website it's pretty there's a lot of stuff on there it's pretty technical but if you want to start down this road it's a great place to start right yeah there's a good book based she's the Sally Fallon is the the president I believe of the foundation nourishing traditions and it's a cookbook but it's also kind of a diet book and talking about all these things and what she went through and I feel like that might be a little grain heavy I'm trying to get more into a primal diet where I'm looking at my ancestors and seeing what did they eat maybe a thousand years of fish you know okay my ancestors are from Ireland and Sweden so you're seeing a lot of fish you're seeing a lot of raw dairy and you know dairy from cows that were eating grass not corn and grains I mean that's a big difference because the omega-3 profile is way lower when they're eating grains but if they're eating grass it's much higher so now I'm just saying look at what they do very high mineral foods and it's no one was ever vegan like he even went to Hawaii and like the Polynesian Islands looking for a vegan society and they always would eat animal products and I try I mean I would do like a low fat vegan experiment and my sex drive totally went away because my cholesterol went down so low which isn't a good thing you know I think that's a big myth we all need cholesterol to synthesize proteins I guess or yeah and for the brain and like you know cholesterol is like the foundation of that so when people start trying to strip out their cholesterol I mean it's just bad for the brain it's bad for the body bad for the sex drive I mean no one's happy so which contradicts conventional yeah well there's a lot of money to get cholesterol down a lot of money Lipitor and whatever else I mean it's big business and you know I've seen some before and after pictures of people taking these Lipitor it almost seems like the before and after pictures that you would see a crystal meth addict yeah it's like oh my god they aged 20 years in like 2 years yeah no it's crazy and it's the Lipitor that's doing his toxic on your liver I would think I would think so I mean the results speak for itself yeah and then so as far as my diet I have included animal products back in fully where I started with maybe like a little goat yogurt and maybe some eggs and then I started getting just like some organs that would eat liver like bison liver and then maybe some ground bison and maybe some you know if the chickens are eating the right thing or maybe quail or something so it's more much more of a primal diet and I always thought coming out of the vegan world that it wasn't going to digest and it was going to go putrid in my intestines and I was going to get acne because they sit there for yeah all these problems no problems at all because if your bowels are working fine then that shouldn't happen right in the belly where if you're a vegan for such a long time you've alkalized your whole digestive track where it can't break down those foods anymore so people are dependent on enzymes and probiotics and it's almost like a junkie like always having to buy probiotics and enzymes instead of just eating foods like yogurt and you know fermented vegetables or whatever so I'm really trying to get back to the way it was and realizing that we're living in just a little blip on the screen where it was like natural food, natural food a little blip of all these funky factory foods and pretty soon we're going to get back to it whether it's by choice or by no other choice and I really think that might happen pretty soon where it's going to cost too much to make all these junkie foods and you know to pay everybody to make them so we're just going to have to go back to organic food and organic animal products and fishing for ourselves again I remember your dad was a fisherman yeah I know I really admire what he taught me yeah I ate a lot of sardines trivia but some of the things that I got from that was it taught me patience it taught me to what was the other thing it was patience and I forget the other thing right now but it was pretty significant because I watched this movie recently about that someone was teaching someone how to fish and you can gain a lot from just you know from the actual doing part you know in addition to the receiving part yeah absolutely you know there's a lot of good life lessons so you're so you went from a regular Minnesota corn fed diet probably you know to vegan right to raw to raw so it was more like vegetarian where I started cutting out the meat just the flesh you know thinking I could still do the eggs and the dairy but I didn't make the connection yet with the quality I didn't know that there were good eggs right and that was the whole thing when I was growing up I had a lot of acne you know I had to have braces my teeth were all messed up my jaw was thin I had my jaw spread out when they were doing the braces and you know just yeah the acne was crazy so what I realized is my omega-6's were just through the roof I was eating a very high omega-6 diet instead of a high omega-3 diet right so now what I tell people whether or not you're vegan or raw just look for omega-3 foods and then just get those in but I'll tell you what the animal foods that are high on omega-3 are much better for you than the plant foods I mean you can just convert it more you're going to get all the good stuff out of it and why just because we've assimilated to it over the thousands of years right yeah I mean based on someone's idea of creation it's been a long long long time I'd say millions and millions of years since we've been and maybe we came out of the trees this is all conventional evolutionary theory but we came out of the trees maybe five million years ago and even then we were eating nuts and insects very yeah and now okay so then we're on the ground now we're starting to eat large mammals and we can't fight that you know we can't fight what our ancestors did because they built us all of those habits have led to this massive brain that's right that needs a lot of fat and you know everything everything so we're kind of a product of that and if we try and stand back and they go we can evolve and we can do a totally different paradigm the vegan diet never did it even like the the Indians like Hindu they were still doing milk and they might have been doing eggs but for sure they were doing milk and ghee because they knew that if you were going to have healthy babies for a year you know generations and generations you needed that nutrition mm-hmm so I see a lot of vegans now and I see a lot of young vegan kids and it's not something that I would want to do mm-hmm and I think just look at the results look at who's telling you these things and see who's doing and so far I really haven't seen much that I would want to copy and so what what do you think shifted within you to like change to initially yeah like was it just educating yourself more or and also probably the way you felt probably yeah that came a little bit later especially with the raw that came later but at first it was just kind of getting into the environment and then seeing all these factory farm videos you know like the pita videos and the only option they give you is veganism yeah it's not like okay find people that raise their animals properly and feed them properly and love them mm-hmm you know like we've got the chickens in Arizona and they all have names you know we feed them we feed them yeah we pet them and we feed them good food and they give us eggs you know like what is so bad about that it's not they're not in cages and you know eating GMOs vegetarian to then the more hardcore vegan and then when I went well when I was the vegan I was still doing a lot of grains a lot of cooked grains like couscous and rice and I just didn't feel vibrant you know it wasn't anything different so then I went to the raw vegan by cutting out all those grains and since it was a low-fat raw vegan diet I felt very alert I was working out like two hours a day I had a lot of oxygen in my body but then again it was kind of unstable and I had these crazy cravings sugar sugar yeah just crazy sugar cravings and living in New York City everything's accessible 24 hours a day so I could just walk down to the nearest bodega and buy a pint of Ben & Jerry's you know and eat it and it actually led me to bulimia for about a year because I knew that these I was supposed to be eating this food but I was still craving this food and then I you know I thought it was gonna make me puffy and I wasn't gonna work so it drove me to bulimia for like a solid year on and off were you closeted about that at the time? yeah yeah totally and I didn't want to tell people because I wanted them to think that raw vegan was the best possible diet but raw vegan kind of drove me to this eating disorder yes and I balanced and you're a model too so that probably has something to do with it yeah I think I wouldn't have been so extreme about it unless I was a model because I really felt like okay I have to make money I gotta be thin and now since I've switched and I've gone high fat animal based the cravings are gone you know the it's easier to maintain my weight because there's not so much sugar in my body like I still eat raspberries and blueberries and maybe some mangoes frugos yeah yeah but that's so much lower so I used to eat maybe 10 apples a day just kind of chomping you know I'd have a couple some big bag of raisins in my backpack for later and just like a sugar sugar sugar and then I had to really work out a lot to keep that weight off because my body just wanted to turn that sugar right into fat yeah it was just night and day no cravings kept thin I basically have to just work out to keep the weight on and then it's perfect face stays lean everything like that yeah that's great Mika wants to know what are natural alternatives to Lipitor well I don't even think you'd want to you wouldn't even want to lower your cholesterol I think a good number is 200 to 220 and then just what happens is with cholesterol and this is like we're talking about the build up and the arteries you have to think it's like the cable repairman who's coming to fix your cable and what's happening is by people with people eating all the refined starches and sugars and that could be corn syrup that could be it could be anything any kind of refined food it's irritating the whole body it's inflaming the body and especially in the bloodstream so the body sends cholesterol to that area almost as like a bandaid to soothe it and heal it but people keep eating more of those inflaming foods so the body keeps trying to lay down more and more cholesterol to heal and then eventually they clog them up and they die because they never switch their diet if they were to just switch their diet to a non-inflaming omega-3 diet that the cholesterol would just start to break away because it doesn't eat it there anymore so like the cholesterol is the cable repairman and it's like we're blaming him for the cable going out when he's just showing up to fix it so it's not like we even want to lower our cholesterol I think those numbers are all skewed just trying to get them down lower yeah I have for the longest time I always recommended like steel cut oats sure for that and I think it's very beneficial lately I've been hearing some things on Patrick Temponi I forget this guy was talking about eating it during certain times because of the body chemistry physiology etc which makes some sense but I know that that is very good at lowering cholesterol overall it's helped me in the past but I I'm not the only thing I'm steadfast on with in my diet is like my eggs in the morning pretty much and then you know my greens of course the greens they vary totally everyday so all different types of greens let's see sardines are awesome and cheap yeah super cheap my dad that was another thing my dad taught me sardines they can be like I've seen them at Walmart for a dollar nine for a tin and that's wild food from the North Atlantic so wild really sardines are always wild yep and they're on the bottom of the food chain and that's a really important thing to know because they haven't had time like tuna and swordfish and shark they're not apex predators where they're eating everything below them so the sardines they just eat phytoplankton and like maybe some little little things yeah that's all they accumulate anything and it's cheap and it's like loaded in omega threes and it's maybe a dollar or dollar fifty there's some tins that are maybe four dollars but really it's not like it's someone manufacturing it it's a wild food that they're just putting in a tin so it's basically just a matter of marketing and packaging at that point yeah wow I learned to dislike them at an early age because my dad used to eat them all the time but now I'm back into sardines again and I love the oil based ones oh yes yeah the olive oil ones yeah look out for the you know the ones that are in mustard or in some other ones just check the back and make sure you don't see soybean oil you don't see canola oil and maybe cotton seed oil because they'll put that stuff in you want to go with the olive oil or the spring water nice and do you make kombucha I do what's your thoughts with the sugars well the scoby which is a symbiotic colony of yeast scoby they eat the sugar right you know so that's their whole thing and we're drinking the byproduct of that whole process so there's really no sugar in it and the longer you let it go almost the more vinegary it becomes right so when you start off with your sweet tea and that's what the scoby eats you want to tell people where kombucha is in case they don't know kombucha is a I believe it's a tea from it's not a tea but it's a fermented beverage right it's a colony of bacteria and yeast that lives on caffeine so caffeine from green or black tea and sugar oh that's what it needs and I don't know how it was developed over millennia and all that but it's a great probiotic it's nice to drink you know with food cause it'll help break other things down it's loaded I love the effervescence of it and if you want the effervescence if you're making it yourself you need to put it in a bottle and feed on it and then when you pop it open nice and there's some nice ones that you can get like in a champagne bottle now they have kombucha I went to a raw potluck once and someone had made yeah the champagne yeah the champagne it's really good it's really good and it shouldn't have to be too sweet some people like to pull their kombucha early where they're still a little sugar or they might add a little juice at the end but really there's not much sugar you know it doesn't like sunlight it's just from the temperature it likes 70 to 80 degrees cause I know certain fermentations happen only through sunlight and oh gosh I don't know possibly yeah cause they always put them in these clear glass and stuff that's usually just cause it's in glass but a lot of it you want to keep it in the dark cause like the UV rays will damage them actually so you could do it in a dark glass like this right here is my water bottle and it's made out of myron glass and when I go to the airport they have to look inside because this is they can't see what's in here they're like what the you know so they take it out and they look and they make sure it's empty of course so it must be strong glass it's just a really thick dark blue glass almost purple what is it called again Myron I believe it's M-I-R-O-N and that really blocks out all the light keeps it really pure and that's that whole thing and I know you're really into drinking water from springs yes there's a great website have you continued doing that I have and now I have my well in Minnesota and that's kind of what I pull from there but otherwise when I'm here we'll always go to springs findaspring.com is the best site for that I'm so glad they created that it's a nonprofit it's just a resource on the web with all the maps and you can read reviews and see what you like and since we're in New York I either go to Cold Spring Harbor which is on the north north shore of Long Island or we go out to Stokes State Forest in New Jersey so any of you folks in New Jersey you're in a really good spot for really awesome water that's totally free so what we do is we'll just buy some you can buy the glass bottles or you can just use old milk jugs whatever you have on hand and then just fill them all up throw them in the back of your car take them home and we would do that once a month the best possible water you could ever want straight out of Mother Earth it hasn't been on a shelf it hasn't gone through weird pipes with rusting and contaminants and then it's like boom it's yours it's free and I know that the other thing you have to pay attention to when you're doing that is the parts per million yeah the TDS parts per million so usually you want to bring a what is TDS a total dissolved solids got it that's right and so some like let's say you go out west or maybe where Patrick lives down in Texas he's got a lot of limestone a lot of calcium and they might be reading at 800 you know so or then we'll go up to which is good right well it's a mineral water I mean so there's a lot the lower the number the better you usually want it lower I mean those things can be kind of therapeutic and like with the sulfur and all that kind of stuff but it will build up in your system like all those minerals will start to almost maybe calcify some of your joints and all that so I don't try to drink too much of it you want to go low but you don't want to go distilled because distilled processed water it's stripped out it doesn't have any memory you want to go for really low TDS spring water anywhere from you know even 15 to 300 and on the website it doesn't have that usually it does usually people will list it and I never really worry about contaminants because usually these are in forests like protected forests and the forest service has to test it for E. coli and remember like these underground aquifers which are underground lakes they are maybe hundreds of feet below the ground so all the water that has reached that is pre-industrial usually yeah so as we say how do you know that there's no chemical plant up the stream dumping well you'll know at least through the TDS if it's not too high but then also the TDS well if there's a lot of toxicity if there's like bacteria or poop and there's something it'll just shoot up like crazy and then just realizing that it's been filtered through hundreds of feet of rock over hundreds of years so actually the water that we're drinking from those springs it's fossil water it's been under the ground for maybe a thousand years way before people started doing funky stuff with industrial industry the industrial revolution was 300 years ago so a lot of these spots are still very pristine that's really why I like the water like the spring water it's like fossil water none of this radiation nonsense it's all super and it's energized by the earth so there's magnetism and all kinds of things going on in there a lot of love yeah it's great and when you drink that stuff for the first time you'll notice that you have to pee a lot because your body is actually flushing out the old water that was in your system really it becomes your blood and it's replacing it with a highly structured water straight out of the planet really cool that's awesome we have a few minutes left I think someone was asking about cocoa water what do you think of cocoa water kefir which is kind of like what we were talking about the kombucha and the champagne and all that they'll just ferment the coconut water and no it's a great probiotic it's a good product you can ferment cooked coconut water which is what you'll put in your hands or whatever and then just let that sit out at room temp for a couple days and then you can just buy like a little kombucha starter or even just pour a little kombucha in it like the crystals is that the same thing as the crystals you could do that or you could just pour the liquid because the liquid is so full of the bacteria too and then that'll just start eating all the sugars and the coconut water and then with the coconut water it can get a little sulfury a little kind of funky but it's a great product yeah just kind of eggy you know but it's a great product I mean and what's the safest containers to hold water I think you might have missed glass or any glass carboy or you know I recommend getting one gallon glass bottles and you can usually get them for ten dollars or you can even buy a gallon of apple juice at Whole Foods for eight dollars you know you can drink it or whatever you want to do and then you've got your glass bottle and then I'll or even like they've got those square glass milk containers and like a plastic thing and that way you're not lugging around a big one and maybe you slip on a piece of ice and boom you know I know people someone was asking Miguel agreed but what if I'm going to spring and want to transport a large quantity and Brenda says use BPA free then I get home and transfer it into a glass yeah yeah and again even if you are doing it in the plastic it's only been in the plastic for a little bit you know it's not like it's been on the supermarket shelf for months you know like you see at like a convenience store the delivery guy will just put all the plastic all the water bottles right on the on the sidewalk you know as they're just kind of waiting to load stuff up on the sun and the sun's just baking it you know that's what really stopped me from buying bottled water yeah too many times seeing trucks on the side of the road and the sun is just baking all that water plastic tea yeah then one other question we have time for how can you prevent sagging skin when losing weight well Phillip McCluskey you have some experience or yeah some wide experience and you know Phillip yeah that's right yeah he lost he went from 400 to 200 or maybe he's even 180 now who knows and I think it's kind of a you know there's MSM foods like that that's what's Brenda said MSM powder lots of that I mean really even two tablespoons oil you know anything that's really not refined even cacao butter or shea butter yeah and I think sometimes maybe people lose the weight too fast or they're they're doing it in such a way that it's not promoting healthy skin like they're just stripping out their calories and they're just working out like crazy we're crazy instead of like a smoother transition with healthy foods loaded in Omega 3s that are going to support their right foods in instead of just burn calories and then people have they got to have surgery and all that and so really by doing it naturally with natural foods high in Omega 3s and then just working out of course but keeping the muscle tone up and then I think the transition would be much smoother and you wouldn't have to have saggy skin and dry brushing someone's resumes recommending that's awesome no matter what recommendation that's awesome so we would like for 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