 Like we all, if she ain't have a girlfriend or that girl didn't have a girlfriend, Why? We didn't go. Why? That's what I'm trying to tell you. Let me give you an example. Let me give you an example. God, give us your stories, because you probably got a lot. First off, y'all had the tiniest school in the league, right? Mm-hmm. With the most champions. With the most champions of basketball. That's not my point. All boys. I'll give you all credit for all your basketball accolades. I'll never pull those back from anyone. You'll accomplish your accomplishment. That's not what my point has zero to do with basketball accomplishments. Highly educated, young man. I'm talking about, after the game, it's very difficult to avoid those girls, right? No, no. There is no avoidance. We're not trying to avoid. Well, we're going to talk about it. So now we're talking about it. So what happens? So give an example. The game's over. The game's over. So what happens? So give me an example. We had some friends from a neighboring high school. The Gereddy Gorillaz. No, how the hell? Interracial dating. No. I mean, it was some sisters there. Okay. We'll give it to them. I mean, it just, again, we had girls that came to name. We moved in packs, like wolves, right? You were wolves. Like moved in packs. Like, in other words, after the game, if I meet a girl, then it's like, yo, we're your friend. Okay. Do your friend got a friend. Okay. Do your friend got a friend. Like lean on each other so that we can understand through that process, or how to handle the situation. So while you were maneuvering and getting to know young ladies, you were sharing notes and being supportive of one another. Of course. And that goes back to your relationship. So what's the problem with that? I mean, we don't know. What I'm saying to you is, is that maybe he doesn't have that support system because of the fact he is who he is. Once you get to a certain level, you can't tell a dude they're making a hundred million how to talk or go with a girl, what to do or how to do. He stopped listening to all that. So what I'm saying is, I don't know Zion's situation, but my personal opinion is, if you don't have that inner circle, do you mean to tell me that not one time while you were in high school, did you have two young ladies arguing over your interests? Not one time? I mean, yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. I can't remember, but I'm sure we have. Two young ladies were ever in the ability to cross each other's paths to know that there was a... What I'm saying is, what we did have, what I'm saying, what we did have, what we did have that... Good, good. What I'm saying, what we did have that a lot of cats don't be having is tribal support. Like in other words, tribal support. Tribal support. Oh, tribal. Like this is my guy. If I meet a girl and she's feeling me, I'm not leaving him. You would. You leave everybody. Really? Everybody. You're out. Taking shots. Taking shots. Taking shots. Taking shots. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving until I find out if she got somebody for my people at that age. Do you know what I would do? I didn't come out the locker room. The reverse happened. My guys would say, you missed him. He already left. He didn't come in the locker room. You went straight. Because you know after the game, everybody else is still in the gym and we shake hands and then we just go straight out. We're out first. So they wouldn't know if you hit the parking lot or if you went in the locker room. And so you know it, y'all played in West where I was at in my senior years. You come up those steps, well, y'all would go the opposite way. But our locker room was at the exit. We would go to the locker room and then the exit doors right there. So if you're a first out, well, the question is, what were you doing that you had to set up an escape plan? There was no escape plan. My point is the very off times you would have a lot of young ladies who were interested in getting your attention. You weren't interested in going in. And maybe you to prevent cat fights. Okay. Why are you fighting? Okay. So he went in. This is where he had going on. He had situations before the game. Before it. They didn't meet nobody. He knew them all already. And then Tadisha and Pat rolled up at once. So he got the bat. And they said, well, well, we don't know where he at. Listen. We got you. You had a different experience. Yeah, because y'all still on board. No, but y'all have some of the baddest women. We definitely have got you lost direction. You lost direction. You lost direction. You lost direction. But you guys had females. We didn't. So when we would go on the road, it was the best thing for us to interact. Because we didn't have an opportunity. But I'm saying he interacted with women all day. So Keisha and Pam, he already didn't mess with somebody at third, fourth period. And now they come into the game. And now he told her one thing and she got a ticket. So now he got to escape. He got something else going on. I can see it. I can see it. Different experience. I think again, headed back to Zion to close him out and move forward. I think that in a circle is like the absolutely most important thing for any athlete. You know, especially professional basketball players. So we have going on now, Stevens. We working on any ideas? This is a brainchild of mine. And it's been something I've been wanting to do. And just be able to give an outlet of real basketball conversation. Right? You know, not filtered or sponsored by the cloud or the powers that be overhead. You know, as some of these situations. We will accept sponsorship. This sponsorship don't have nothing to do with. We absolutely will. Sponsorship don't have nothing to do with though being able to sit here and chop it up over some real basketball and just get real perspective. So that's, you know, that's one of the things and I'm involved in always giving back to the youth and making sure that the things that I got, you know, that are not necessarily staples in today's society as far as, you know, I have OGs called gross. That's right. T-Shills. That T-Shills. You know, I had OGs that navigated me through a lot of these things. You know, and I know we're wrapping up Zion, but Zion, John Morant, you see a lot of these young guys. Shout out to Rap Kirt. You know, who have, are having some of these issues that need this ideology of village, you know, helping them transition. You know what, Steve, I just realized we were doing play-by-play and color commentary, high school basketball. We did cover Purpose Ellison's high school, too. Yeah. Yeah. Nervous Purpose. Yeah. So this was in the making. That's been some time ago. We've been talking about getting around to doing that. That was good timing. Great, great things always take time. Right. So we're here now and now we're making this move. So those are the things that, you know, I'm in education. You know, oddly enough, I think they all kind of go hand in hand. Right. You know. What you got on the, what's next for you, Justice? What you got on your plate? I mean, right now I'm in transition. I mean, I've been in Miami 13 years. Okay. The event planning started kind of like when basketball was over. I guess like early 30s. Right. Again, I had my son early. Right. So my son at the time was high school, not high school. So I'm like trying to get him straight. So I kind of gave up mine because I didn't really see NBA at 31. Right. It wasn't happening. Right. And to just keep going overseas wasn't making sense. Right. So I just went to work, put my degree to work. I had a degree in recreation and started working with youth. Started basketball camps. Right. And then Miami, I just started doing the event planning. I feel like... How'd you end up in Miami? Rassoul. Okay. Rassoul Butler. Rassoul Butler was drafted to the Heat 2002. Okay. I think it was the 53rd pick, the second round. And he was there. And at the time, Ed Pinkney, shout out to Ed Pinkney. Okay. Yeah, without Ed Pinkney. Championship. Yeah, 85, right? Yep. Yeah, without Ed Pinkney and obviously Rassoul get drafted. I would have never been in Miami. Because Ed invited me down to a program. Okay. And Rassoul was there. So it was a combination of two. But Pinkney is retired by that time, right? Ed Pinkney is coaching. Pinkney was coaching in Miami? Ed Pinkney coaching in the league. What, 15 years? I don't really have been there. I think he might still be in the league. Yeah, I think he might still be in the league. Okay. He was in Miami coaching for about... I would guess from 2002 all the way to like almost 10. Yeah, I saw it at his summer camp. Yeah. I saw a picture of all of those Villanova guys at the Vegas summer league. Okay. Yeah, so Ed Pinkney was a huge, a huge person that came into my life and just pushed me and said, hey look man, just come down here. Okay. You know, and we going to see what happened. Right. So you know, yeah, I got down there and I played well. I think at the time of the program it was like me and Roger Bell. Okay. Carlos O'Roya. Okay. Little point guard. Roger Bell played for six years. Roger Bell played for six years. Yeah. So it was just kind of like, it was looking like something was going to happen. Okay. I was playing well, but that didn't work out. And so now the event planning. Yeah. You got a lot going on there. Yeah. I visited and I enjoyed the festivities and the fruit, the fruits of the event planning. Yeah. So the event planning is a wonderful thing. It still gives me the opportunity to create. Okay. I think we're all here to create. You know, I think you're one of the most creative guys. I was creative. And it allows me to create vibes for people to enjoy. Right. And if I can do that, obviously, get paid from it. You know, why not? And I'm in the Sunshine State, so. You can't be good. Yeah. That's the short version. I can go on and on, but it's just kind of like, that's it in a summary. And now I'm in transition to doing more Afro beats more. I'm a piano, South African music. Okay. More influential music to push out to the people. Anything new on the horizon with television that we know you did ready for love? Yeah, ready to love. Yeah. Ready to love. I filmed last year. Okay. And it was on throughout the winter. It was a good experience. But you did a reality TV show prior to that. Yeah. Something like that. You want to take a shot? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh. Is that a soft spot? Yeah. The little pad we wanted to jump over. Do you know what? I'm glad I went there because... He's waiting on us. Now I'm remembering. He's coming back to you. He had a little, I don't remember it. I'll fit, mismanagement movement. I know anything about it. I'm mad that he too excited about it. I don't even know anything about it. I don't know nothing about it. Shout out to 25 years, seasons of Big Brother. Let's talk about Big Bro. 25 years, first back man on United States Big Brother. Let's say this about you. Well, and I'll say this personally, you've been an integral part of me and Ile's life since we were teenagers, right? Maybe not as much as for Ile, cause he's family. But when we all we get around and stuff like that, I think when you did the Big Brother, like we were in shock to see you on TV. You know what I'm saying? That was good for us to have in our future. And I think that for me to see somebody that was in our circle, hit television, it kinda like maybe subconsciously, maybe he wanna be like TV's dope. You know what I'm saying? So I thank you for that. I appreciate it. Now talk to us about the Big Brother, man. What was that about? What Big Brother? Yeah, I'm back to you. Well, I'm gonna come back to Big Brother but you just sparked something for me when you told your epitome story. Epitome, yeah. But then we gotta get to these shots, right? I had the same kind of idea with like Mike. So I already had the introduction into the world of television and film. And my agent sent me something for like Mike. She said, listen, just go down there and make a, you know, just be an extra, right? I'm like basketball. I'm not an extra in anything basketball. I'm like, cool, I got it. What my agent doesn't know is that we have an unofficial basketball fraternity. We all know someone or two people or know someone who knows two people. I'm like, if I get around this basketball thing, I'm gonna know somebody. Absolutely. Got on that set. We're supposed to be an extra. Bow wow. I'm gonna be on the floor. Otherwise I'm not gonna be around the basketball. If I'm not coaching or playing, I'm not there. Big Brother, just quickly, I didn't know Big Brother was a television show. At the first time I heard about it because there was a Carter and Sambo, and I don't remember you remember them. They were disc, disc, and they were, even them was somebody else on the show. Kept doing these outlandish challenges where he would broadcast and live on top of restaurants. So he was doing a broadcast on top of TGI Fridays on the City Avenue where AI's always hang out, right? And when I heard the advertisement, he said, who can live in a house for 90 days straight? I thought it was a challenge, like what he was doing on the radio. I thought it was a radio challenge. And I just filled out the application, and by the time I got midway through the application, I'm like, oh, this is a television show, but the application was so long, I'm like, I might as well finish filling it out, and the rest is history. Yeah, yeah, Kudo is a big brother. So let's take some shots. We're gonna take some shots and we'll be right back. Shout out to them. Beautiful, crispy tequila, and for right now, we are going to have the crispest, most beautiful, smells like a beautiful woman. You're a drunken woman. Not my woman. I'm not my woman. But this is, you need to stay out of the bar. The late night bar, something like a woman.