 Hi, and welcome to Dare to Dream. This is Debbie Dashinger, and pleasure to be here with you today. Today's show features Gail Thackeray, a sixth-generation Reiki master and medium who helps you with health, love, finances, and more. This show Dare to Dream with Debbie Dashinger has won the COVR Award for Best Radio and Podcast, Welp Magazine, named Dare to Dream, one of the top 20 best podcasts to listen to this year. It's high-ranking under self-improvement in Apple Podcast and has been nominated for two People's Choice Podcasts Awards and for a Webby Award. This show is sponsored by Dr. Dane Here and Access Consciousness. They do energy work out in the world. So if you'd like to become a facilitator or you'd like to take their class, go to drdanehere.com. I am Debbie Dashinger and I'm a media visibility specialist. I am a book writing coach and I take your book from idea to self-publish. And if you should go through somebody like a publishing house, you can come to me and my team to take your book to a guaranteed international bestseller. We've been doing it for 12 years for authors. And the final thing I do is I teach you how to be interviewed on radio and podcasts and get massive results. I've got a boutique publicity agency. I've got about five clients at any one time. So I really know the system, how to get you visible and as spiritual messengers, you came here right now with a message to be heard. Please let me give you a gift so I can show you how. Go to Debbie Dashinger.com slash gift. It's D-E-B-B-I-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R.com slash gift. My guest, Gail Fakre, sixth generation reiki master has traveled extensively working with spiritual healers and psychic surgeons around the world. Gail is an exceptional medium with tremendous connection to spirit. She helps people realign their energies for better health, love, fine essence and to live their sole purpose. Gail can see people's past lives, tap into their body energetically and often gives messages from spirit. Gail is in tune with crystals and stones working on people's energy fields and using crystal healing to protect and enhance the aura. Gail is the author of a few books and those books are on spiritual healing and psychic mediumship development. If you would like to learn more about her, go to GailFakre.com. And with that, I welcome the amazing Gail to Dear to Dream. It is so great to have you, welcome. Thank you Debbie so much for having me on. I was so excited. I am excited too. You and I, I guess I've been going to Conscious Life Expo, whatever. I don't know what it's been, 10, 12 years. I've worked with them the last maybe five and helped out in various ways. But what I know mostly as an attendee, I've always seen your booth. I've always seen you be passed in the halls but I have never formally met you. And so it is a pleasure to establish a real relationship. So thank you for being here. I know your personality is amazing. And I'm curious, how did you go from Robin Harris, actress to Gail Fakre, leader and healer? How did that journey happen? So you've done a little bit of research on me. So I guess I used to be an actress. I was actually at college in England, was gonna be a vet, was at medical school and I was the Marlboro cigarette model. And so they brought me to the States for two weeks and I got cast a little role on Baywatch. I got cast in some movies. And I was like, well, should I go back to college for seven years? I like the weather in California. Maybe I'll check it out for a while. And so that's what got me here. And it just seems like sometimes we go in different paths. It's like the universe senses. I've been reading this book, Surrender. And it's like the universe sometimes just sends you things and that's always kind of been my thing. It's just say yes to whatever the universe is presenting. So anyway, that's what got me to California. And I was an actress, then I had a business. I had internet business. Was not in the psychic realms at all. Now, looking back, there were certain things. Now I can see things. But I never thought, I like the psychic stuff but I never thought that I could do any of that. And so what happened was I had this experience where it was kind of an awakening for me. And I had this business and I was busy working in the internet. I had a photo stock library. And I went to this health fair, kind of like a conscious life, but it was a health fair and there was a psychic there and she was going around the room and she's picking people. So I'm like, oh, pick me, pick me, you know. And it was me with my mom while she didn't. So she was having a workshop. So we thought, well, we'll sign up for the workshop and maybe we'll get a reading, right? And so we go to this workshop and we get there and there's a sign that says how to become a medium. We didn't even know what the workshop was. We just thought we were gonna go and kind of get a reading. And so she, I'm thinking, I can't do that, but okay. And so she has to do this exercise where we do kind of a light meditation and then she has his getup on stage and we're supposed to bring in the spirit next to us and it's for somebody in the room. So I get up and I'm like, okay, I think I got this wrong. But you know, I thought we were supposed to make up a story. But anyway, mine was for this guy over here and it's his grandpa, I must say and he's telling me about the scaffolding company that he had and then his dad took it and then he was supposed to take it but he became a pilot and he did this and da-da-da. And so I go, okay, was any of that correct? And the guy goes, oh my God, that was my grandfather's name. That's what he did, they've had that picture in my house. This is, and so I'm like, okay, maybe it was lucky guess. Yeah, right? I just did not believe it. So for me, it was like this kind of like, almost like it'd been waiting there. So I start telling everybody all kinds of things and I go home and that night I can't sleep. I come back and I'm like, I've got a message for you and I've got a message for you and okay, this was fun. But how do we turn this off? Because I can't live like this. This is like insane. I mean, like I couldn't drive, I couldn't even put my pants on the right way around. I was like in like a space cadet. And so it was this unusual thing where one minute I was normal and the next minute I could do this stuff but it kind of comes at a cost. And I did kind of learn that, that you can't, if you get that deep and do it that strong, it's really hard to switch back and forth. That's why you see some psychics that are really kind of out there. And so I think there's a balance. Like we're supposed to be here to have our own experiences and to be in the physical world. And so I teach now how to do healing and mediumship, which I think comes in the same way. So it to me is about connecting in with the other side. We have this spiritual world around us and we can connect into that. Whether you are trying to connect with loved ones that have passed, whether you are looking for guidance, talking to spirits or whether you're looking to do healing work. So I know a lot of your views have probably done Reiki and channeled healing and spiritual healing. And to me, it's the same kind of thing. You're getting your vibration to a certain level. It's almost like we have to bring our vibration higher and the spirit sort of helping they got to bring the vibration lower so we can meet and that vibration where we can connect and be in that zone. But I think you can only hold it for a little bit of time. And it's very difficult to hold that kind of energy and be in the physical world. And so when this first happened to me, I mean, I thought it was amazing, but I also, my kids thought I had gone nuts. I couldn't even remember to pick them up from school. I couldn't do normal things. I couldn't do normal life, but I could tap in really strong and I could look at person's energy field and look at their body and say, okay, you've got this health problem. You've got that. This is why that's what you've got. This is your past life and I could do all of that. But I think there's, to me, I tell my students, you switch it on, you work in that environment and then you switch it off and you go about your daily life and you can't be in that all the time. You know, if you had the time to go and spend a month meditating in the Himalayas, I think most people will be much more psychically entuned when you're about your daily life and you've got things going on, you're just not as entuned. And so people say, well, how can I do that? How can I be more psychic? How can I be more entuned? And I teach them how to do it, which I think a lot of it is through meditation techniques, but it's about raising your vibration, raising your energy and tapping into that other world. But you can't be like that all the time. You can't have that high energy all the time. So I went from having a business to all of a sudden, I knew there was something else. I didn't even know what I was doing and I was married at the time and I said, I'm actually gonna go off, I'm gonna do some travels, I'm gonna do some spiritual stuff. My husband thought I'd lost my mind because I had quite a successful business. So he's like, what do you mean? Where are you going? What are you doing? And it was life changing because I just felt like what I'm doing in the physical world, it's just, it's not enough. There's something more here. And I went on this journey of discovery. I went to visit a lot of different psychics and healers. I ended up going all of the world working with John of God, who's very controversial but amazing healer in Brazil. I went to Australia and worked with the Aboriginals, also went back to England, worked with the Druids, worked in the Philippines with the psychic surgeons, studied Reiki. So before all this had happened, I kind of connected the dots. So my auntie had come over before I had this awakening. My auntie had come over from England and she used to be in insurance. She used to be an insurance adjuster. She had an experience one day driving home where she comes around the corner and there's a massive UFO like the size of a house sitting in the field. Oh, I love it. And so she's like, you know, don't believe in any of this kind of stuff. He's totally not in the spiritual world. This UFO appears to her. And after that, she went through some other changes. She ended up changing her career and becoming a Reiki master. So she'd come over and said, hey, I'm going to do an attunement on you. I'm going to do a Reiki attunement. I'm going to teach you level one Reiki. But oh yeah, that sounds great, right? So she'd done this like a few weeks before this awakening happened. So I think that had a lot to do with it. And I'm sure a lot of your viewers have done Reiki. But when you learn Reiki, you are attuned or tapped into these Reiki guides in the spirit world. So it's a way of kind of like opening you up psychically and allowing that connection. And so when she first did this to me and showed me how to do Reiki, I didn't feel it. Like a lot of people are like, oh, I really felt it. I felt the tingle. I felt this, you know, I felt something happening. And for me, I'm not very psychically sensitive. I'm more clairaudience. So I didn't feel it. So I'm like, oh, I don't really feel anything. And then I started with Reiki on people and they were like, wow, that's amazing. And you know, my knee, I had all this pain and now it's completely gone. And I'm like, I'm not feeling anything. I didn't really, you know. So I'm thinking that these people it's just wishful thinking. Some people are more sensitive than I am. And they feel it. They feel being that channel of energy. So I would get more messages and people will clairaudience like me get messages. It just feels like your thoughts. So it feels like, oh, that's just my imagination. I'm just making that up. And so when I had this first kind of breakthrough, I just thought, oh, I'm just making this up. This is just silly. But I couldn't have been making it up. So then I go traveling around the world and I meet a lot of different healers and I see some amazing stuff. And really came back to the feeling that a lot of these different spiritual healing modalities they might have come from a different tradition based in different spirits, a different knowledge. But it's all really about the same thing. I think most of them believe that we have a spiritual world around us and that we tap into that spiritual world. John and God, the Filipinos, they're very Catholic. So they believe that it's Catholic spirits. And they set the foundation with prayer. The traditional Dot-yu Sui Reiki is set in Japanese tradition. We connect with the masters in Japan and other masters. I teach Tibetan, so Tibetan masters as well. But I think a lot of these different spiritual healing modalities believe that we have a spiritual world around us and that we can access this as a healer and become a channel of that energy. And when you allow yourself to tap in, not only can you be a channel of that healing energy, but you also will be given guidance on why a person has that issue. And so the more I worked with different people the more I saw the same thing that we're made of an energy field and that when we have a pain in our body, a physical problem in our body, it is connected to something else. It just doesn't appear. You don't just get a cancer lump. You don't just get a back problem. It is actually from energy that has become dense energy, difficult energy that has probably repeated over time. So somebody comes for a healing, they can either come and say, oh, I have this problem with finances or I have this emotional problem. I have this connection with my sister or I have a pattern in this way, something emotional or mental it'll come with and maybe it's not physical yet. Or they can come physical, but it's still connected to something emotional. So the way I look at it is energy starts from our outer area. So let's take like a difficult relationship, difficult romantic relationship. So we have a difficulty because that's part of life. We were here to have these lessons to work through karma, to work through experiences for our soul growth. So let's say we're having a difficult romantic relationship. Well, so they show up in our outer energy field and at first it might not, it might be wonderful experience. So we meet this person and we're like, oh, I have this great connection with them. I feel like they're my soulmate. Well, of course you do because, you know, if we're gonna have any kind of a good relationship or difficult relationship, any kind of strong relationship, probably a soulmate. So that person is in your energy field and when things get difficult, now you start arguing, start fighting you. It's the thinking, emotional, the mental part of that where they're irritating you. You've got negative thoughts. So that's now a bit denser into your energy field. Then it starts really upsetting you. You can start to feel really triggered by it. You feel it in your body. If you tune into how you feel about something, it's upsetting you. It's making you emotional, right? So the energy is getting stronger and it's coming further into your energy field. And if we allow it for a long enough time or we keep repeating this same feeling, eventually it's gonna become physical. If it's a romantic relationship, it's gonna resonate with your sacral chakra, which is the area just below your belly button. So if somebody comes and says, okay, I've got this problem in this area of my body. I've got fibroids or I've got an intestinal problem. It's a physical problem. Most likely it's come from that area of the life from relationship areas. And so whether they come and say, I have this physical problem or whether they come and say, I've got this emotional problem, it's all connected. So a lot of what I saw when I first started with spiritual healing is people will come and say, I've got this physical problem. And when you release and do the healing on that physical problem, you're also working on that emotional problem. So let's say again, relationship, somebody comes and they've got a physical problem in that area of the body and you do the spiritual healing. What happens is they'll now say, oh, I reconnected with that old boyfriend. This came up again in my relationship with my wife. But what happens is you're healing all of it. You can't just heal the physical without healing the underlying. And so I started taking groups around the world. I took a lot of groups to John O'God and people would come and they'd say, I have this cancer in my breast. And let me, if I may, I just wanna ask you about that. I wanna ask you about John O'God because I know you were deeply connected with him. And also years ago, we all know that the disturbing news came out on some level. And I would love to ask you for your, and I'm not trying to be political, but your boots on the ground understanding of what went on with him and how he's doing today. Because I could never tell, I mean, as a woman, as somebody who could be vulnerable going to a healer, I think I resonated with a lot of the feelings out there. But as a metaphysician and somebody who's really tapped into sometimes how things work in this world when you have somebody powerful who heals, the pharmacies don't like it, doctors don't like it, governments don't like it. And sometimes they will plant evidence that's not true. I don't know. But I'd love you to weigh in if you don't mind what that was and how he's doing, if you know. So, and I'm sure most of your viewers know what happened, but I was there for probably 10 years. I probably took 25 groups down there as well as went by myself several times. I also took John O'God to Toronto where we did a huge event with a lot of people. So I got to know John O'God quite well. And I think it was 2018, it came out where supposedly he had molested a whole bunch of women supposedly took in this healing room and then was inappropriately touching them. And to such an extent that he actually went to jail. I honestly think it's a bunch of political bullshit. In the whole time I went, he never once made any kind of inappropriate gesture motion. I never heard about anything. I mean, I went 25 times with a lot of women. I went myself. I was in his house by myself. I was in a hotel room with him in Toronto. Never once did he ever make any kind of pass away. The room that they talk about is a very public room. It's a room that is off the side of the centre that he would go in. But the door was open with staff coming and going and literally 200 people waiting outside for a photograph. So I find it very hard to believe. Now, I saw John as the man because John was a man who would then incorporate and do his work as a spiritual healer. And there was definitely a difference between him as a person and him as when he's incorporated and in this healing. And as a man, I saw him getting arguments with people. I saw him getting in fights over business or property or a temper with somebody. So, it's not like an angel or anything. Did he have had girlfriends on the side? He could possibly have had some girlfriends. I mean, he's a superstar. He had literally hundreds of people after every session and every girl wanted to be around him. And, you know, and get a photo with him. He was a celebrity. So whether he had consensual stuff with girls outside of his marriage. Possible, probably, I don't know. But as far as that, a lot of what went down, I mean, the people I know worked at the car, they never saw it either. So I, it lined up when the new president was coming in. It lined up with a lot of political stuff that was going on. So did they just want him out? I don't know. I think you have any idea how he's doing? Well, he wasn't, he was in jail. Then he was back at his ranch. He was not allowed to do any spiritual work. He was basically on house arrest. I think he's gone back to jail again. I'm not I'm not completely sure. But it's very sad for the cars are because the cars are remained open. The energy there is incredible because it wasn't real. It wasn't John the man that was really doing the healing. You had these spirits that would work through him. But even if you were there and he's not there, the spirits are still there. So from what I've heard, the energy is still there, still in me. And then when you did the psychic surgery in the Philippines, the healing in Bali, what was important for you about that? What did you learn how to do? So I think I learned that it's really about tapping in to the other side and being a channel of the energy. So it's not really that this person is doing it. It's more that this, it's almost getting out of the way rather than trying. In fact, the more you try, the less it's gonna happen. It's more about kind of getting out of the way and allowing this process to happen through you. Not trying or forcing to do anything. The first time I went to the Philippines, the Ambrosio had been the healer in this region in Baguio, for his grandmother had been the healer, then his mother, then he'd become the healer. And then he decides he's passing the gift to me. So I'm like, okay, I'm not sure if I'm really up to this. And he started the session by opening his prayer book and setting the energy and doing the prayer. And so I'm there, I'm all excited to help. I've got the cotton wool and I'm standing by ready for the surgery and his client comes in, lays down, he opens his prayer book and he starts to pray to set the energy. And I literally passed out on the floor. And so I come round and he's like, yeah, the energy's a bit strong. So I did this like four or five times, I just kept fainting. And I'm like, I can't even stay awake, how am I gonna do this? And he's like, yeah, yeah, the energy's a little strong. And eventually I got to where he was doing a session and I was there and my videos of me there helping and assisting. But I tell you, I felt like I was on the ceiling watching this thing. And so to me, that was, it's all about really the energy. The energy that's setting the room, setting the energy and then allowing the spiritual beings to come and to work through you. And what about horses? Some of the stuff in the Philippines is fake and they talk, there's a lot. So they basically open up the body and they put their hands inside the body and you'll see like, open blood and guts and even like pulling nails and pulling things out. And a lot of it, I think they add stuff to make it for tourists. I think a lot of people don't believe it unless they see like a lot of blood and stuff. That's crazy, wow. And you have a connection to animals, right? I've seen pictures of you all dressed, connecting with horses. What is your relationship with horses? Oh, well, I've always loved horses. I have horses and I've ridden since I was little. So, but, you know, all animals and once this happened to me and I started delving into the psychic side of it and the healing side of it, I realized that animals, they already connect on that level. And so our animals are already in tune. They already do healing work naturally. They already telepathically, we can talk to them. They're already listening to us. We're a little bit dumb about being able to understand them and to listen to them, but they know already and they're very much become our life partners. And so you'll see animals come and they'll say have a hip problem, a leg problem or an eye problem. And it's actually not to do with them. It's to do with whoever is their main caregiver. So I see that a lot where it's something that's going on with the animal or even if it's like a behavioral thing, it's to do with the person. So I'll see, like they're saying, my dog is always barking or is always anxious or is always doing this. And then look at the person and say, okay, what's going on in your life? And a lot of it is what's going on in their life. So they're very much our healers. Yeah, yeah. I saw you do a TV show and the host brought a dog for you to talk to, which is so cool. And I always think for animals, what a blessing because I've had this experience before, but what a blessing because they probably have so much to say. I feel like I'm super in tune with my dog, but still when you do a session like this, it's a whole nother level. It is next level communication with your animal and hearing from them. So I was wondering if I brought a canine to you, would you be willing to talk to me? You want to do it? Yeah. Okay. I just need to bend down and it's a sleepy dog. Will you come with us? Will you meet somebody? Will you? Will you meet somebody please? Yeah. Hello. Now you might want to, oh, you're such a sleepy girl. So this is Shelby the dog. Oh, she's just sweet. Oh, now. This is Gail Thackeray. She's my new friend. I was thinking it was going to be a little brown one. Does she have a friend that's a little brown one? No, that's crazy people. I've never met Gail before, but just a minute. Oh, that's the one I was seeing. So she was like, we're both here. I think she's a little nervous about going first. She wants this one to go first. This is Ziggy, this is hilarious. So Ziggy wants to talk to you? Yeah. So Ziggy is not your dog, right? Correct. Well, yes and no. Okay. It's like, I feel like you know, you know Ziggy, but he's not like, it's not. So the other one's your dog, right? Is this your boyfriend's dog? That is correct. Okay. And so they're saying, oh, it's a new beautiful relationship. So are you getting married? This is a wonderful relationship. I mean, you and your boyfriend. This is a fairly new, but it feels like you've known him for years. It feels like a soulmate connection. Thank you. We've been, December will be five years. Yes. Okay. No, I feel like this is the one. This is your soulmate. And these two also feel like they've come together as soulmates as well. But I do feel like there's something like moving in together or there's something, they're going to a different level. So I feel like there's something more permanent coming along. So this Ziggy is more the very quiet, grounded one. What's the other one begins with S? What's the other one begins with S? Shelby. Shelby gets to be, she's the one, like they play off each other because she's a little bit more hyper. Sometimes she gets a little bit anxious about things. And then he's the one that kind of calms her down. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. And I see them like sharing like a bean bag. Do you have a bean bag? This is, I would lift it up, but I would have to put them down. But I have a black faux fur, but it's a black fur carpet. Like it's a beautiful little room rug and they both like to sleep on it. And then at night he sleeps in a little bed and she sleeps next to the bed or we sometimes pull the black fur in for her. Well, there's something about like they have their time when they're on the bed together. Like they felt like a bean bag comes in, the two of them lay together. That's kind of their special time where they get to sleep together, chat about things. And then they either go home to the separate places or they have their own separate things. So they like the together time. So they're saying you're a shaman and you're not doing enough of your ceremonies. So they're showing me like a circle shaman thing. The stones involved, there's the rattle involved. They want to see you doing more of that. I am a shaman. This is absolutely correct. And I am dying to do more. Community and group work and online work. This is absolutely true. And I am at the same time about to do a huge presentation in another country. So so much. They were telling me another place. I was thinking it another. So it's probably the one in another country. Oh, the shaman work? I'm seeing somewhere. And it's like, I'm going to a new location. I thought it was like a new location that you were going to have where you go regularly. Like a new. That's interesting because our back house is becoming available. And rather than rent it out, we're going to turn it into a healing center. So it will not be this moment will be. Yeah. So I'm seeing like regular, you're going to be holding them regular, like every one Saturday a month. You like choosing like a regular thing. And they're saying that would be really good because people will know and come. It's almost like got a medicine wheel as well. I don't know if you've drawn a medicine wheel in the back, but there's a drawn circle of some kind in the back. Wow, you're good. So you're really good. This, so from time to time, there's a mandala or a sand painting that we that shamans like to do. It's in order to get rid of things that don't work to bring in what you prefer to, you know, you could put objects in there. You blow the energy. And I see the people coming in. They've each got a rock stone. They're each coming to put something in there. And then at the end, it's it's gone taken away and the fresh start the next time. Right. Yeah. Yes. So they're going to help with this. So they'd like to be there when you when you do that. And then you've got somebody coming in to kind of do a blessing on the land itself. Somebody's coming to to do the four corners to do somebody like a priest or a shaman is coming. That's not you. You've got somebody coming to kind of like set the energy. Not yet, but I love that idea. Yeah. This is somebody's coming in and they've got the little bells. They like the bells. You have some bells too. They're on like a red string with the two bells on the end. You know, I don't. I actually have this old bell from the Bodhi tree a million years ago that I use in my shamanic practice, but I actually need to buy the exact bells you're talking about. Okay. Cause I see them telling you to go around, set the energy before, before you do this. And so your boyfriend was not in this field, but now you're getting him into it. No, he's not in this field at all. He's going to have something to do with the property or the setting it up at least. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. He likes it. And he's into all of this. Yeah. So I feel like he's going to be a little bit more involved in this project that you're doing. And then you're recording it as well and putting it out to other people, but I feel like it's very special in person. Oh my gosh. So this is like, this is what they're talking about when they're saying be kind of going to the next level. Cause I think your boyfriend's going to be involved like kind of as a business too, like he's helping you, the project you have together. And so they're just saying, he's saying they love it when you go to the beach. They haven't been in a while, but he likes it throwing sticks by the beach. So there's somewhere you go. Yes. We like to take them to, you would know the places you live in Los Angeles too. So Rosie's and Long Beach is an off leash beach. Huntington Beach is off leash. We've taken them up north to like Pismo, which is spectacular. And then they can, everybody can spend time off leash. And it's true. Shelby has been more recently to the beach, but little Ziggy has not. And I didn't even know he liked it. Oh yeah. That's nice. So I think you've all been together, right? Yes, we have. They'd like more of that. I said, that's really fun. And the golden treats that you give him. You know what that is? It's like some little nugget thing that you get sometimes. Okay. Yeah. I don't know which one it is. We have so many treats, which I'm around, but I'll pay attention. It's called a golden, golden nuggets or golden something. They look like little golden squares. I'm wondering if how he's doing his... Okay. And now I was just going to say, he had some difficulty with his paw or a pain in his right paw. Not that I know of. No. That's to do with your boyfriend's right leg, which is to do with changes at work for him. So you mean Rob having changes at work? Yes. So Rob, like, there's some change coming up and he's not really sure. He doesn't really like change. And so he's been told to just kind of go with the flow. It's actually a good thing and it's going to work out. So that's why this one's had kind of a sticky paw. It feels like he's had a bit of a pain in his front leg. Front right paw, but that's just to do with Rob. So when Rob just says, okay, fine, I'll just go with it. Do you know what that's about? Yeah, his job's a little intense and they... Yeah, it's intense. It's best if you do something new or different and he's a little reluctant. But tell him just to say yes and it's going to work out pretty good for him. So it's actually going to be good. They had a brother, not a real blood brother, but a dog brother who died. Is that a darker brown one? Like a little bit more... No. It's like... I'm seeing one that's a little... It's about the same sizes as him and a darker, more ready brown. Oh, no, this is all of Ziggy right here with his... Let me get your head in there. Does it begin with O on? Oh, yes. Okay. Yeah. Is that one also look like hers? Is this the other one that looked like the white? Is it a white fluffy one? He was a white dog. That is correct. Like a white fluffy one, a little bit like... Not fluffy. He had sort of wiry hair and he died. I think this Friday, if I have the timing right, it'll be about three weeks since he died. Okay. So I'm seeing actually two that have passed over that surround them. One is the one oval? I don't know. Oliver. Okay. And then there's another ready brown one. Maybe that's one that Rob had that you don't know about. There's two around in spirit. And that's why they were saying go to the beach because I feel like this other one was at the beach. Yeah, he was. This other one have a cat? Do you have a cat? No. I love cats, but we don't have one. Okay. Because I feel like there's a cat in spirit, but I feel like this one had a cat. I've had cats in the past. I've had two cats, three cats. Yeah. It's kind of a tabby cat. Is that one of your cats? I don't think so, no. Okay. So I guess it used to go to the dog park. And what happens is when a dog passes, but then you have another dog and you're going out doing the same thing, it's like they're there with them all the time. So they're like, when you go and you're having fun and you're throwing the stick and you're doing all that, I'm there as well. So I get to go along too. So yeah. So Shelby and Oval, Oliver? Oliver, yeah. They were brother and sister then. They were your two. They were not blood. Nobody's blood. They were like together. Like you had the two of them together. Yeah. Oliver is also Rob's dog, not my dog, but they all became community. Yeah. Well, that one's still there. And Oliver had a very good long life. And at the end, it just felt like there were multiple things failing. Like, did you try to fix things, but then something else happened? It feels like it was just time. It was like one thing after another after another. Yeah. He had an enlarged heart and like, he had a few things on his face and he had a lipoma and his joints, it was clear he couldn't quite, you know. It just felt tired. It just felt like time. But he'll come back, but right now he's just around them. Yeah. Having fun. Yes, we were all there at his passing and it was quite tragic and beautiful all at once to help a being go to the Rainbow Bridge and to cross over and yeah, it's really something. But he was beautiful and he's missed. Say thank you, Gail. Thank you so much. That was wonderful. Thank you for communicating. And back on the rug he goes. Well, that was very cool. Thank you. Well, pass Shelby up a second. Shelby, come on sleepy. There we go. And all our glory. Shelby, you get worried about her being alone. So I think she fusses when you're leaving. But as soon as you're gone, I just want to let you know she's fine. Some of it's faking it a little bit. So like when you're leaving the house, you feel bad that you're leaving her. I feel like she's kind of anxious. And it's like the minute you left, if you had a camera, she's fine. When I leave, she does this thing with the paw and looks at me like you're doing what? Yeah, I have to talk to her. I love you. I'll be back. Like you're telling my secrets. Don't tell my secrets. I know. Sometimes she just wants to know what's going on. Sometimes she gets anxious. So when you're leaving, if you just say to her, I'm going, I'm going, da, da, da, da, da, I'll be back at five o'clock. Right? Then she feels better. And if you're not back at five o'clock, just send her a telepathic message. Like, oh, I'm running late. I'll be back at six. Right? Yes. She just, she doesn't, sometimes doesn't know. You're not clear on where you're going and what you're doing. But if you're clear about it, then she'll feel much better. She'll feel more at ease. She knows what time you're coming back. Cause you can tell the time. If you just tell her what time you're coming back, she'll expect you at that time. Wow. Okay. That's fair. Yeah. And then sometimes she picks up on your energy. So if you're, if she seems like, she's fussy, a bit anxious, just kind of sit down and go, okay, mom's fine. Mom's calm. Mom's good. And she'll calm down. But mostly with her, it's about like not knowing, not being confused as to what's going on, what's happening. And if you're worried about things or you're stressed, you have a lot of different things going on. Sometimes she's kind of picking up on these mixed energies and she's not sure what's going on either. So she gets a little bit anxious. But if you calm her down and say, I'm good, I'm fine. Yeah. And, and sometimes you get indigestion. She says sometimes she gets indigestion and it's, it's, she said it's more stress taking on too many things. She says you can do a lot of things, but you need to take the time to like once in a while, just when you get too much on your plate, you just gotta take five minutes and do a little meditation and bring yourself back to center. So I feel like tightness or pain in your intestines and it's really just stress. Okay. You can also try some castor oil in your belly button. She's saying. That's so interesting. Yeah, I have some. Castor oil, put it in your belly button and that will also release the, that feeling of tension as well. Beautiful. Thank you. But they're very happy that you and Rob got together. They think you're perfect. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. It's so beautiful. Yeah. And they said that's healing because I guess there was somebody before that that was not so good. You were the second person to say that. Amazing. You're the second person. Yes. After Oliver died, we met with an animal telepathy person, which by the way I have to say is one of the most healing things that emotionally we turned a corner and shifted into healing very quickly, all of us. But this woman also brought this up as well. His previous partner was, didn't she? Yeah, so we'll leave it at that. God bless wherever you are. And Oliver will come back. Not right now, but when you're ready, he's just gonna show up and he will look very similar. Oh, cool. Oh, nice. Yeah. He's nice. He's a beautiful soul. He added a lot of love. Now we'll do that. They come back. They come back when they're ready. They come back. So people say, oh, I don't wanna get another puppy. But often it's the same one that comes back. That's so interesting. And tell me if you would please, because I know you also do gemstones. And you even know how to pick what gemstone that would work for someone's particular energy. What is that like? Is that a psychic thing for you or are you given information or do you need their birth date? How does that work? Now, so we have energy fields and the energies in different parts of our body are gonna vibrate at a different frequency. So I'm sure your listeners know about chakras, but if your throat chakra is blocked because you're not speaking to someone, you're having a hard time talking about something or from being a child or you've got a partner or a parent that won't let you speak and you've got throat chakra issues, which can lead to sore throats, even like a cancer or a thyroid problem, right? So that this energy, if you could see it psychically as a turquoise energy, when that energy is shut down, it causes the physical problems and you have a very hard time being able to speak about things. So if we just choose a gemstone that would resonate with that area, which would often be a turquoise-colored one like a Larimar is really great. Larimar is the one from Atlantis that's only found in the Dominican Republic. Also a turquoise, like the Native American turquoise would be good or anyone that resonates with that kind of energy. So if you put that on your throat, if somebody resonates with that, they're gonna like that stone, they're gonna think it's pretty, they're gonna look at it on you and go, oh, I love that stone, right? And then if they wear that stone and it's a good resonant, what it's gonna do is gonna help to mend or kind of temporarily fix that energy. So it'll strengthen the throat chakra energy. So like, oh, I feel better. This feels good. And what's happening is it's helping to strengthen that, right? So if you have, say, something going on with family right now, grief, heartache, something, not all family stuff, something's more recent, you're gonna resonate with stones that open up the heart chakra because your heart chakra is a little bit shut down. We're never perfectly energetically stable. Like there's always something, we know we all have stuff going on, right? And so you're gonna resonate with the stones that help to increase that. So if you've got stuff with family, you're gonna look at heart stones. These are gonna be often green stones, like an emerald or a Siberian green. They also could be a love stone, like a rose quartz or a pink stone. So the different parts of your energy field and what's going on where you've maybe got a block, you're gonna resonate with the stones that help to kind of increase that energy. And you're gonna automatically be drawn to them. You're gonna like that kind of stone. And when you have it and you hold it in your aura, it's gonna start to strengthen it. That's why it feels good. So I get a lot of stones. I get stones from Brazil. I've found stones all over the world. And then I'll have them set, like for instance, this stone here. So this is a golden stone. This is great for sole purpose for sharing. So I'm sharing my sole purpose today. Can you hold it up a little higher so we can see? Yeah, but probably like a turquoise stone would have been good for today because turquoise is about communication, right? So you'll feel and you'll like the stones that resonate with you. Often we get other people's energy around us. So especially those that are a class sentient, you pick up other people's energy. So if you kind of go to a family gathering and it makes you really tired or drained, you know, work and it kind of drains you. If you're one of those people that pick up other people's energy, protection stones are good. So like a smoky quartz is one of the best. Or even just a clear quartz. There's something to protect your energy and kind of get rid of other people's energy. So there's a couple of things about it. One, it's about the resonance of the stone and how it affects your energy field. And then stones also hold good energy. So that's why you see healers that will bless stones or you can put reiki into a stone. So if you're getting a stone that's got a, say, Johnnagor blessed it or it's from somebody who blessed it or it's from, say, lords in France. It's from a high energy or a vortex place. It's gonna hold that energy as well. And you can feel it. Some people are more sensitive can feel it. When you hold that stone, you hold it close to you. You'll like it. You'll feel drawn to it. You'll feel like, yeah, that feels good. It makes you kind of buzz. And it's raising your vibration. It's clearing out other people's energy and it's making you stronger in the areas that you need it. So I love it. I mean, I think part of it's kind of cheating. I say, we do things that are also not good for us. So like, if I was to eat raw food all the time and work out all the time and be really healthy my aura would be better. And I demonstrate this sometimes, I like English tea. And so I'll drink my tea with milk and I'll say, do you think that's good for my energy? And I can actually test my energy and show you that it's really not good for me. So I say, I really should give up my English tea and maybe have green tea or I can just wear a bigger crystal. That's great. I didn't realize that. I didn't realize if there's something that your body doesn't resonate with that you can use a crystal to ameliorate or to neutralize that. Yeah. So I mean, look, we all have little things like we have things that we eat that are not great for us. We pick up energy of other people that's not good for us. You know, any time we have a negative thought a negative feeling that's in our energy field if you have a fleeting negative thought it's not a big deal. It comes in, it shuts down your chakra for a second and then it leaves. But if you keep having negative thoughts over and over and I demonstrate this on stage too sometimes I'll pick somebody out and I'll say something I'll just kind of give them a little bit like I'm not sure that's right. And all of a sudden the confidence gets shut down and the energy gets weaker just for a second and then it'll come right back. But if you're in a place where you're in a negative relationship you're getting bombarded all the time or you're at work and you're getting bombarded at a time or you've got financial problems or really I mean, we've all got something going on and that builds up and builds up and builds up until it actually becomes more dense in your energy field. Yes, right. And so let's parlay that the use, we'll put the crystals aside. There's another thing you do too, which is manifesting. And I know you have this thing called the manifesting experiment. So how can we reprogram our subconscious for abundance? How can we align for greater good, greater thriving? And I always like to say greater magic and miracles. So we're here to have a wonderful, prosperous, beautiful life and to be able to have experiences and to have experiences we need to have money to be able to do those experiences or to do good in the world. People get stuck thinking, maybe it's not godly to have money. Maybe I don't deserve to have that. So whatever we put out there in the universe whatever our thoughts are is what's gonna come back to us. So naturally we're supposed to have this abundance in our life but people get stuck through karma, through what people have told them, where they start to think negative thoughts. And as you start to think negative thoughts you're pushing it away. So we can manifest whatever we want, whatever we think about, whatever we're dreaming about but then sometimes we block it. So it's like, yeah, yeah, yes. I want to have a better job. I want to have a better life. I want to have a new house. I want to have this. And as that thing starts to manifest to you as it comes closer something in your energy field says, oh, but I don't deserve that. Oh, I can't afford that. I can't have that, that's for somebody else. And so we actually, we block it as well from coming in. And so that's kind of it. I do a 30 day to prosperity. I wrote a book about it and I have the course. It's free online if you go to my site and you can take it and I do it every day. And that actually came to me, I say it was my first book that I wrote but I didn't really write it, I cheated. It just was kind of downloaded to me and it appeared on my computer. I mean, obviously I had typos in it and things so I had written it at some point but I don't know and remember how I did it. And so that's why I think it works really well and what it is, it's a series of affirmations and meditations that you do every day for 30 days just to reprogram your subconscious to say that I deserve to have all the abundance in the universe and that it comes to me and that it comes to me easily without me having to work hard for it and that I am just an abundant being allowing it to come to me. Yes, I learned something really big somewhere along in life and that is to stay out of the how because I think how, how am I gonna get the money to do this? How is this gonna come into my life? How is this gonna, all of that is the greatest blockage and instead of just the pure energy, right? Of putting out and receiving and allowing all of that I just know miracles happen when we get out of the how. When we try to manipulate it or create it like I must get, I want to do this thing I want to have the abundance to do this thing but I must get it from, I must get a raise at work. Then you're telling the universe I wanna have this abundance but it can only come to me in this certain way, right? So yeah, we have to surrender to like, this is what I want, I'm gonna put it out there and then I'm gonna relax. I'm gonna stop like worrying, am I gonna get it? Am I not gonna get it? How am I gonna get it? I need to get it this way, you know? So yeah, exactly. We have to stop worrying about the how and just trust that the universe does provide for us. I mean, how many times is it like, oh, I need this, I need this and then right the last minute you get just enough of what you needed, right? So the universe, you know, it does take care of us but sometimes we only get just what we asked for because that's all we've asked for. So we have to be a lot more open to, you know receiving what it is that we want however it's gonna come to us and not be so worried about how it's gonna come to us. Yes, it definitely. Lifelong lesson, it's not like I'm sitting here going, oh, well, it just happens so easily for me. I mean, it's easier said than done. Right, and I think, you know, like anything it's a muscle, right? Once you get into the flow of abundance and you start seeing how it gets magnetized and how it comes to you. I mean, there's always higher levels but there's more knowing there. There's more understanding of how to be how to attract and all of that. And so this is a free course I think you said or a free book with affirmations and meditations and that's at galefacray.com. Galefacray.com, I took the book and I made it into a course. So I do it recorded every day. So you can just go on there and you can watch the recordings and do the meditation, the affirmation along with me. And it's every day for 30 days. Beautiful. You also talk about charisma. And you know, charisma is really important. I wanna walk in a room and have everybody they don't have to understand but, you know, feel that magnetism for me. I wanna have that on my show. I wanna have that when I speak from stage or when I sing, et cetera. So I looked up the word because I think, you know the etymology of words is so interesting. And it says charisma means charm, allure, personality, magnetism. So is it possible to develop charisma? And if so, how? It is, but you know, when people think of charisma they think a lot of like almost like an external like showing. And I think charisma is much more about when you're really in your life purpose loving what you do, following your life path and kind of just being on what you're supposed to be doing. People have this automatic charisma because when you're truly passionate about what your life purpose is and you're following that purpose and you're doing that thing you automatically you're just glowing and attracting. And so to me, charisma is when you really just focus on what it is that you're passionate about figuring out what your life purpose is it usually has some element of serving people helping people bring in your gifts to the world. When you're living in that really bringing your gifts to the world and it's hard, it's hard to stay on your life purpose and not get distracted. But you know, if you can do a little bit more on your meditation, your practice on what am I supposed to be doing allowing that to be in my life. I want more of that in my life. I want to, I don't, I'm just gonna allow spirit to show me the way and open the doors and pay attention to those doors opening. And the more that you do that and you're on your life purpose and you're doing the thing you're passionate about and you're serving and helping people that you're in your charisma. People are looking at you like, wow, I want some of that. And so it's kind of an energetic thing. It's not, it's not an external showing it or how do I, you can't really fake it. It's like a life from within that comes out, isn't it? Exactly. Yeah. And it's very attractive when somebody comes in and is like that. It makes no matter what they look like on the outside. It is, there's something inside. And I know people like that. It's just, and it's wonderful to be around them. Yeah. Yeah. And we all have that. It's just, we get off track and if you can bring yourself back and if you're not sure what your life purpose is do some meditation on what do I really enjoy doing? What would I do? And usually it's through how you make money but sometimes it's not through a hobby or something. But I have a book about finding out what your life purpose is. But it's about doing some exercises and some really digging deep on what makes you tick. What are the things you've done you're excited about? Things you do if you didn't have to do it. If you didn't have to work for a living. What makes you, what do you feel like you're serving people, helping people? You know, you know, for you it's expressing and teaching people and sharing knowledge with the world. Your life purpose. Yeah. Thank you so much. So you're glowing, you're on your best when you feel like you're doing that. And it's just, it comes natural. You feel like you're allowing it. And then you do get charisma. You do get following. You do like get people coming and going, oh, that's really interesting. I really enjoy that. People resonate to you because you're on your life purpose. You're on your path. Yeah. Thank you so much. That's beautiful. And what I'm teaching is actually changing. You know, it's very interesting because as I follow my curiosity in life, it also shows up here on the show. And as I follow that and I learn more and you know, all of these times with people like you, it's like a masterclass to me and I'm incredibly grateful for the connection and the information and the wisdom. And then, you know, things start changing and then there's something else for me and then I get opportunities and it's amazing. Yeah, it's always the same thing. People think, oh, life is like always doing the one thing. It changes, but it's the theme of it is that you enjoy sharing the knowledge. You enjoy, it's not teaching. It's more like I'm showing, I'm sharing. I'm being what I want people to understand. And when you're really in that zone, it's magic. People are really drawn to it. Totally. Well, you're magic. And I know you're gonna be speaking February 2024, Conscious Life Expo in Los Angeles. So I know it's early, but what do you have a sense you'll be talking about? Anything that you wanna share about that event for you? Actually, coming up a little quicker, I'm gonna be in Brooklyn for the New Life Expo on January, sorry, on October 26th. So that's coming up in a couple of weeks. I never even heard of that. So New Life Expo in Brooklyn, New York. Yeah, it's usually in New York, but this time they're gonna do it in Brooklyn. Fun. NewlifeExpo.com. And then that's a big one too. And then the Conscious Life in February, ConsciousLifeExpo.com. Yeah, I'm gonna be sharing some of this spiritual healing. I'm gonna be teaching people how to do that because I think a lot of people want to learn how to be able to do it themselves, how to be able to raise their energy and tap in their self, get on the life purpose. To me, once you tap into that energy, it's all available to you, whether you wanna do readings, whether you wanna do healing, whether you want it for your own, just your own, whether you're in business and you just want to raise your own intuition. The other thing I talk about is a little bit about past lives. I think a lot of our trauma is coming from past lives. So some of the karma, some of the patterns we're working on, if we can't really explain why we have something in this lifetime, often it comes from past lives. So I'm gonna be talking about past lives. And also something I find interesting is jumping timelines. So for instance, I've noticed, as I say, somebody comes and they're like, oh, I have a problem in my shoulder. I can't move my shoulder. And as we do spiritual healing, I see that there's a timeline. We have thousands of timelines all around us. They're just like a millisecond off. And I'll see a timeline that everything else is the same, but now that the arm is healthy and we'll jump timelines. So spiritual healing will allow them to jump a timeline to a new timeline. So let's say you've got a pattern of having no financial abundance or you've got a pattern of negative relationships or you've got a physical issue. We're looking at how do we switch to a timeline or how do we manifest or create that timeline to come to you? So how do we bring that timeline into existence? So we keep manifesting timelines with these problems, with these negative patterns. How do you get on a timeline where you're on your sole purpose? Everything is perfect and to bring that into alignment for you. Yeah, that's intriguing. That's really intriguing that you can connect somebody. I would think that if somebody put cold together, I have this issue emotionally, this issue with relationships, this issue, whatever they may be, right? For example, that if you could connect them with the various timelines where these all worked. Oh, works, get a timeline that's got all the everything working. Have you done this for yourself? I've just noticed it as I'm doing healing for people when I've done the healing that, I've noticed a timeline that's just, it's a better timeline for them that move them and shift them into. And it appears like it's miraculous healing because they're like, all of a sudden like, oh, my arm doesn't work. Oh, my gosh, my arm works. So it's miraculous, that pain I had is just gone. It's just gone, it was never there. Yeah, cause you're on a completely different timeline. And I don't think people really talk about that very much. So I'm gonna talk a little bit about that. How do we consciously bring you into your timeline? Nice, very nice. Okay, well, Gail, this is Dare to Dream. So what are you next, Dare to Dream? What are your future dreams and goals? Well, I just love sharing this. I'm excited to keep getting downloads on what I should talk about and how to get that message across to people and share that with people. So thank you so much for letting me on this show and being able to share. Yes, I've loved getting to know you so, so much. So I won't be a stranger if the next time I see you is in February, I'll come up and say hi. And then folks can find you at your name, Gail, t-h-a-c-k-r-a-y dot com. That's the best place. Yep, that's it. Just go to my website. I've got all kinds of freebie stuff on there. We've got the manifesting program on there for free and some other things. And then I'll have some info about where I'm gonna be. Beautiful. Thanks so much, so much. It's been a pleasure. Thank you. And I end today's show with this quote from Mark Twain. Stay away from those people who try to disparage your ambitions. Small minds will always do that, but great minds will give you a feeling that you can become great too. Subscribe to this number one transformation conversation Dear to Dream with Debbie Dashinger. Leave a comment, share. I read them all. And if you're listening to us on podcast and you would like to see Gail, you would like to see the dogs, come over to youtube.com slash Debbie Dashinger. Also Spotify has us on video. Next week on the show, I am featuring the amazing guest, Mark Anthony. He's a famous medium and psychic lawyer. This is gonna be so much fun, this conversation. Thank you so much for joining us on Dear to Dream. Remember to turn all your dreams into your reality.