 all right we've heard from flat flash let's bring in Michael K and Paul O'Neill now and guys want to get your take on this game flash kind of talked us through it in those those bookends a chance late for the Yankees but you'd would have hoped they had had a leader a better chance had it not been for a lot of pitchers having to be used I don't understand what they did I think it was the case of them saying look how smart we are we're smarter than everybody else you do that with an opener when you don't have a pitcher and they have plenty of pitchers they could have gone with Tanaka they could have gone with half the start the game where he's comfortable they could have gone with so many others that they could have gone with Davey Garcia and said they send Garcia out for one and he gives up the home run and then they take him out so if they thought that the grand plan was to bring in the left hander half and that cash would overreact and then take out all of his left handers he didn't do that so flipping the lineup didn't work I think that was the plan I thought for sure they try to get at least three innings maybe four innings out of a out of Davey Garcia it makes no sense to me this is one of those game changing series changing decisions and because of perhaps ineffectiveness in a role that he's not used to remember he has not pitched in about eight days he's much better when he's on normal rest this was a case of the Yankee saying look how smart we are and it blew up in their face. Paul I want to get to Michael's point Jay Hap obviously gave up a couple of two run home runs he did not get the job done but he's a veteran starting pitcher who they put out in the bullpen he could not go through his routine didn't do a good job against the lefties in the lineup and gave up a couple of home runs tough spot for him. You had no doubt about it I just feel the the same way I'm from from the old school you have a starting pitcher you start him and Jay Hap was not the same pitcher today his two seamer he he became a change-up pitcher it was change-up after change-up I just never got comfortable he got out of one jam but you know what seven runs is too much for this pitching staff to give up to the Tampa Bay Rays they're not a great offensive team you know the the Yankees kind of knocked at the door a few times but you know sometimes you're going to have to win games with four or five runs you ask five