 Good morning, everyone. I'm Marsha Denike. I'm the state agronomist and today for technology training Thursday, we are going to go over the steps to complete the new 595 implementation requirements or job sheet. Okay, so before before we jump into the job sheet, I wanted to just kind of take you through the steps, you know, of getting ready to do the job sheet. So to do that, I'm going to just pull up my PowerPoint here. All right. So let's go through the steps of the things that we the information we need to collect and what we need to do so that we can get ready to fill out the job sheet. Okay. And so I'm just going to use my farm, right? So I have I have, you know, a map of my farm. And what I've done is I've done my site visit, I've talked to my producer, I've pulled up some imagery. And the first thing that I've done is I've identified, are there any lost pathways present on on this operation? And so I would say, yes, yes, you know, there is because on my on my field, I have where my arrows are pointed, I have some wetlands. And, you know, for sure, I have one wetland that's leaving that's leaving my property. I also have several conveyances running through my property. And those conveyances are also leaving, you know, leaving my property. So I have, I have, I don't know if you can see my pointer, I have one kind of, you know, in the alfalfa field on the on the east side, I have another at pastures with with some conveyances leaving the site. And so, you know, so I've identified, you know, there is a potential for pollutants to leave my farm, you know, either through solution or adhere to soil particles. So now we have to evaluate my management. Okay, so what is my what am I doing? How, how would those, how would pollutants either collect, you know, in a water body or leave leave the site, right? Like through channeling and things, right. And so I just said, you know, I don't have a lot of farmground. So most of my cropland right now is planted to alfalfa, right? So if I think about my situation and how pollutants would leave my fields, I think my pollutants are going to leave, you know, in solution, rather than adhere to soil particles, right? Now, if I decide to change my rotation, and maybe I'm adding some tillage, maybe I'm got, you know, sunflowers, my husband used to plant sunflowers in those fields where the alfalfa is now, you know, I might consider that maybe those last pathways would include, you know, pesticides or pollutants adhered to soil particles, right? So you as the person with job approval authority, you as the planner are going to look at your individual producer's operation, and you're going to make that determination based on what you see. You're going to look at the field. Do you see any real erosion? Do you see any belly erosion? You know, are they doing tillage? How close to water bodies? You know, are they? Is there a buffer in between? You're going to ask yourself those questions, and you're going to make that decision, right, based on your best professional judgment, okay? So, you know, so our runoff pathways are split into solution and absorbed, and then our third pathway that we're going to evaluate is leaching, okay? So in my case, I just pulled up, you know, I just, I just went to the field opposite guide to the CNMP folder. I pulled up the PDF for leaching, and I looked at it to see if there were, you know, high leaching soils anywhere close to my field. And I have a small amount, you know, I'm in the north half of one. There's a little bit, but I'm going to say it's not greater than a third. So I'm going to say I don't have a leaching concern. There's a little bit on the Kirk channel in six, but I'm going to say it's not going to make up a third of the field. So again, my primary loss pathway that I'm going to want to evaluate is solution loss, okay? So I've analyzed my operation. I've looked at the, you know, the site and I've made the decision. So that's what I'm going to choose when we get to the job sheet. The other decision that I have to make or decide is what soils, when we get ready to run when PST, what soils do we need to evaluate? And so in the guidance that we provided, which is located in the field office tech guide, and we have links to it in the instructions, we've said you're going to choose your predominant soils. Now, if you read the tech note, the tech note will say predominant soils are soils that are greater than 10% or greater than 10 acres, right? So we're also going to ask you, we're going to go above and beyond the tech note and we're going to say also look at soils that are predominant for your wetlands, right? A lot of states don't have wetland soils. And so not only do your predominant upland soils, but we're going to ask you to look at your predominant wetland or hydraulic or that isn't the right word. I've been doing the proficiency model all morning. We're going to look at our predominantly our soils that have some wetland signatures, okay? And we're going to include those when we're choosing our predominant soils to evaluate. Okay, so we've got some better soils identified. I've identified my lost pathways. Well, okay, why am I evaluating this in wind PST? Well, in my discussions with myself as the producer, I learned that I do intend the producer does intend to apply pesticides, right? So I'm working with my producer, we're discussing our options, conservation practices that they're interested in. And in the course of the discussion, I've made some determinations. I've made the determination that there are potential lost pathways present and that my producer or myself, right, intends to apply some chemicals, okay? So that's my trigger to consider running wind PST, right? And so because we want to look at what is the risk, right? What is the risk? And so I like this little table. You are not required to use it. I like it. So I put it in SharePoint under ecological sciences, under the agronomy folder, and under wind PST, you are not required to use it. But the reason I like this is it lets me, if the producer knows what rate they're going to apply for something, it lets you kind of, it makes it much easier to decide later on in wind PST if you're looking at the standard rate, if you're looking at a low rate, it just helps you know what to choose it when you're running wind PST itself, okay? So I've identified my products that I'm going to possibly use and so I have that information. So now I have everything I need to go ahead and do my wind PST run, right? So the one thing that I am going to remind you is, like I just talked about, is when you do your wind PST run, you want to make sure that if you need to make adjustments in wind PST that you do that before we export the data. So in my case, I'm applying my insecticides and herbicides over the top of vegetation, right? So I'm going to choose foliar. I'm also, you know, when you choose your products, right? That shows up, you know, under the products list, you can search for those either by active ingredient or by product name. I've included my soils. So I have all my predominant soils, both my uplands and my wetlands. Now the one thing I should mention on your predominant soils, right? So on my field, when I look at my soils, I had hodic-ethan-prosper, hodic-prosper-loam, hodly-deadly complex, right? In the help document, in the guidance document that we created for you, we said, okay, there's no reason, even though those soils are, you know, more than 10%, there's no reason to evaluate every one of those because we're going to look at the main component, which is the hodic, and the hodic parameters are the same regardless of which one we pick. So we're only going to choose one. So in my case, I think I chose, you know, the HWB, right? And the same for my wetlands. I have bond loam. I have, oh, that one is a little different. I have lane silty clay loam. I have a lane farms worth complex. Both of those, the primary soil is lane. So I chose the lane soil, right? So that's how I selected my soils. And then I chose, in this case, I chose, you know, the pesticides that I was intending to use, okay? Although it is kind of dry, if my products might not work. So maybe, you know, maybe I might want to change that and use, you know, maybe I'm going to switch from my Tordont-type product, and I'm going to maybe use 2-4-D or grade on later because it's cheaper. And I'll show you in a few minutes how we can handle that when the producer changes their mind and does something different after we've already, you know, done our initial WIMPST run, okay? So that's kind of our background of what we need to get done and what we need to do. So we've got our run. We're going to do our report and our report looks like it always does, right? When we generate our WIMPST report, we have our, we're looking for our interactions. So like when we print this off for our producer's folder, we're going to look at our interaction for our soils and the pesticides that we chose. If you choose, you know, preview, you can see it. In other ways, you know, you're going to print that off and put that in your folder. Okay. So here's where we're going to do something different, okay? So if we're just printing it, you know, we click our interaction button, we hit our print and we're done. But to get ready to import this into our new job sheet, what I want you to do is down here under export, you see the little export button? Under export, I want you to come down here and I want you to check interaction location. Now, if you don't change the name, right, this is automatically going to send this to CWIMPST, 3.1 exports interaction data, okay, that's where it's going to send it on your speed drive. That's where the spreadsheet that Mark developed is going to look for it, right? If you don't change that path at all or, you know, add any kind of additional name to it, every time you run WIMPST, it will just overwrite the previous one. And, you know, that's what you'll have on your computer. The last one you ran will be there. If you want to save it so that you can use that again later, give it a unique name. So on my after interaction data, I've added Denikie Farm, right? So I know that, you know, that's what I called it. You can call it anything you want, okay? What you're going to do, so that gives you the ability to retrieve it again later. What you're going to do is you're going to hit the Excel button and you're going to hit export. And it's going to tell you export location that CWIMPST, 3.1 exports, and then it has my name and we hit okay. So that's as easy as that, okay? This is just, I'll come back to this one. So I'm going to go ahead and just going to close out of this. And so I've got everything exported and ready to go, okay? So now I'm going to come to my job sheet. And if there's anything up here that we need to turn off, we'll turn that off. Okay. So the beginning of the job sheet is just like every other job sheet that we have. There's a place to put the cooperator's name if you're working with an agronomist or a consultant. And you can put that information in there. You know, your county, your purposes, there's a drop down with all the purposes in the standard. And there's a place to put a couple of them, your track and field. So I think I will just go ahead and demonstrate this portion of the job sheet and then we'll go back and we'll pick up, well, maybe let's just, I'll just, I'll just quick come back here. So Mark does an excellent job, an excellent job of spelling everything out in the instruction. So if you go to the instruction tab, he has, he has the instructions in here. And so we can just click on the instructions. If our, if our agronomist has a consultant, it is not intended that the consultant will fill out the decision making steps. Okay. The consultant is required to do the IPM plan. The producer and the consultant have to work together to do the IPM plan. Okay. But deciding, deciding what loss pathways you want to evaluate and helping them select their mitigations, that that's, that's you guys's responsibility, which, you know, because you have job approval. Now, if you want the consultant to run WinPST for you and just give you that expert file so that you can just load it into the job sheet, that is fine. So absolutely the consultant must help the producer do the IPM plan. The consultants can certainly run the WinPST evaluation based on, on their soils. If you, if you trust them to do that, based on their soils and their, and their pesticides used, if you trust them to do that, they absolutely can do that. But you're going to do the evaluation. Okay. Okay. So I have the instructions pulled up and mine says there was a problem. So it's might just be because we're sharing. All right. Thank you. So Mark has all the steps lined up. Okay. And we're going to go through that you have an option to enter the data in the spreadsheet, both manually and, and the way I'm going to show you. So Mark has built a tremendous amount of flexibility into this job sheet. Tremendous. It's, it's, it's fantastic the flexibility that he's given you. Hey, Marsha, can you get this a little bigger so we can see it a little easier? Sure. Thank you. Tell me when to stop please. Not like that. Good. Yeah, that's good. Thanks. You're welcome. Thanks for letting me know, Eric. All right. So our producer or our consultant will use SDSU or other science-based resources to develop the IPM plan, right? And they're, what we just did, they just went through those steps that I just did. They identified their herbicides, insecticides and fungicides, right? So we determined that we are using pesticides, that we should do a WIMPST analysis. We're going to open our job sheet. We're going to fill out the initial information like every job sheet has. We can enter the crop year. And like it, like I said, but when, when I opened that job sheet, it opened up to a manual data entry. And we're going to go through those steps in just a minute on how to do that. But the other thing that I wanted to show you is Mark has a number of links in this job sheet. So you're not quite sure how I made that assessment of what my risks were, that we have a document for you. It's located in the field office check guide under section four with the pest management conservation system standard. But we also have a link to it here in the job sheet, all right? I'm going to show you, you know, that we have an optional column called motive action. You're working with a producer who has identified resistance as a concern. And you want to make sure that you're talking about motive action. We have a link on how to get those motive action numbers and also a link kind of explaining what they are. It gives you a little more information about it, okay? We also have links to sorry, am I making you dizzy? We have, don't remember where I was headed with that. Anyway, so there's a number of links in the instructions themselves in case you get stuck and you need, if you're not sure where to look at it, everything that I could put in the field office tag guide as a guidance document with the standard is there. There's just a couple things located in SharePoint in the WinPST folder that I can't put in the standard. And one was that sheet to, you know, fill your, put your pesticides on, you know, if you want to use it. And the other thing is a video on how to use WinPST that Jason did earlier. So those two things are in SharePoint under ecological sciences, agronomy, WinPST. Everything else is located in the folder right next to the standard, okay? So that's kind of the gist of the instructions. I'm going to go back to, I'll just go ahead and show you the IPM plan. And I'm going to make this the hair smaller. IPM plan, all right? So I know that if you've been around for a while, you're going to say, Marsha, in the past, we had to do the mitigation stuff first. And then the IPM plan was optional. And now it looks like we have to do the IPM plan. And then we have to decide whether or not we need to work with the producer on mitigation strategies. Why, why, why is it different? What changed? And, and the honest answer, you guys, is that the person at headquarters in charge of this practice is different. And that person made the decision based on the fact that when we automatically jump to mitigation, right, the reason we mitigate is that we're mitigating pesticide use. And, and her reasoning for requiring the IPM plan, you know, initially, you know, upfront, rather than after the fact is that not every producer who is eligible to do pest management uses pesticides. We have enough, a number of organic producers who, who choose not to use pesticide. And, and just, you know, there are a few, I mean, it doesn't completely negate having to do when PST because there are a few organic products that are also located in when PST. But, but essentially, you know, the IPM plan, what, what you intend to do to manage your pest is first and foremost. And then if the producer is using pesticides, and you have identified that there are in fact lost pathways present, then that's when you would want to have the discussion with them about choosing some mitigation strategies to minimize the environmental risk of using those products. Okay. So the IPM plan is required. They need to do an IPM plan. They do not necessarily need to do our IPM plan. So this plan is in, in the spreadsheet for you as an example. But they do not have to use this one. They can get, you know, their IPM plan from their consultant or an extension person. Or they can try to do it, you know, they can work on it themselves as long as they're using, you know, good resources. Okay. You guys are not authorized to do the plan for them. Now, I know some of you are very helpful. And if it helps you to move things from their plan to this version, so that you have it, you can do that. But, you know, please don't write the plan for them. Okay. And don't tell them what they have to, you know, put in. What your role is, what you, your role is, is to look at the plan that they have given you and determine have they adequately addressed the resource concerns that were identified. And if they've done that, then their plan is acceptable, regardless of how elaborate it is. Okay. Now, the one thing that some of you have asked for is can we, can we put our target pets in here and have that go to the scouting reports? And, and we did that for cropland. We did not do that for grass. Mark, and I say we, I mean, Mark, Mark Wasek, who, the ACEs employee who developed spreadsheet for us. So the scouting sheets in this, in this spreadsheet are probably not, you know, they're not really intended for your crop consultants. They're more for the producer who has elected to do his own monitoring. All right. So don't, don't tell the crop consultant that they have to use this. That's, that's not the case. And the same for the IPM plan. They, that's not the case. But if you do put your weed pest in here, it will, you can send it to, to the scouting report. Okay. And there's a place for your treatment thresholds. And I know that trying to Google, you know, FDIS use website and find those treatment thresholds is not, is not easy. And I'm hoping as, you know, extension gets some, you know, they've got some new people on board. I'm hoping we can get them to summarize those things, you know, in a nice document for us, instead of having to search those articles. I, I know, I, I, I understand. Do the best you can with the treatment thresholds. Just kind of, you know, do an overview to make sure that they look reasonable. Okay. All right. So then they have a place they can put their, their prevention, avoidance, monitoring and suppression strategies. Right. So they can get all of that stuff included. So that pretty much looks the same as like page one. Or what, what used to be page two of the job sheet always does. Right. So this is in there. They can use it if they would like. They're not required to. All right. So now let's go back to the actual job sheet themselves, itself. Okay. And so what I said is when it opened up, it opened up to manual. And so you see how that, that use manual data entry is checked. Okay. So you, you know, even though I just did the WinPST run, you don't want to use that information. You want to do it yourself. You want to make your determination, your hazard rating determination yourself. You absolutely can do that. But I really think that you will like this. So what you're going to do with scroll up here, so you can see, I'm going to select this button that says get new WinPST data. So it's going to the C drive and it's going to find where that was. Okay. And I have a few, but remember the one that I just did was Denike farm. So I'm going to choose my farm. And I'm going to open that. And it says to bring the WinPST data into the job sheet, you're going to enter the appropriate inner CS identified concerns. Okay. So we just went through how I did that for my operation and my resource concern lost pathway that I identified was solution. Okay. So now it's going to pull in everything that had is the in WinPST that had a solution rating. Right. Let's say that I, you know, decided, you know, because I had some leaching areas identified on my field, I decided to use desktop or the water quality risk assessment map template on your app drive or we have instructions to do it in Google. Let's say I pulled one of those things up and I looked at it and went, oh, Marsha, you're wrong. You do have leaching on more than a third of the field. I can just select leaching also. Okay. So, you know, you can, when you click and unclick on these, you know, based on that report that you're using, it will bring them in or take them out. Right. So if you want to look at it and you're not quite sure and you want to pull them all in and look at it, you're welcome to do that. Okay. So now these leaching solution and absorb, those are the risk pathways that we evaluated in WinPST. But there are additional risk pathways in the standard that we could decide to address. And that is drift and pollinators. So if you want to evaluate drift and pollinators, you would just select those. Okay. Otherwise, if you're not intending to evaluate those, if those aren't producer identified concerns, you don't need to. Now, the one thing I will just say, you know, be careful with drift. Drift is not offsite movement of the chemical that is off label. That's not what we're identifying. We're identifying that the producer possibly has, you know, maybe they have a pollinator planting, maybe they have the beehives, you know, there's something that they're trying to protect from drift. So not, not misapplication, that's not what we're identifying there. Okay. So now we have some more flexibility built into the spreadsheet for you. Some of you are whoppers, some of you are splitters. We can accommodate you. You can either evaluate all your pesticides listed, right? Or, you know, I have some choices, right? I was thinking about using milestone or Tordon. Well, you know, I use both of those products, but maybe in 2022, I'm, whoops, I got to click yes. I'm thinking I'm going to use the milestone product. Okay. And maybe I decided I'm going to use Warrior. So I'm going to say those are a yes, right? So if I pick yes, and I change only to evaluate, I need to enter my crop here. That's, thanks Mark for the reminder. So I've got my crop here. And I'm going to say, yep, I only want to evaluate those two products. The mitigation score that I need to mitigate is identified just for those two products that I selected to, that I was using this year, right? And so what this has done, it has pulled that table from WinPST into a job sheet. It has looked at solution because I've identified solution loss as a risk and it's pulled in the highest hazard rating for solution. And, and because that one was the highest rating, you know, the highest mitigation index level that we needed, that's what's going to show up. So let's say I decided I don't want to do my warrior. That one's pretty high and maybe I want to do seven instead, right? So now, if I come down and look at my job sheet, the mitigation index that I need is much lower, okay? So you have flexibility. You can do everything the producer is using, or you can use specific pesticides in a given year, okay? And then the job sheet will tell you based on the risk pathway you identified what the mitigation points you will need to mitigate for, okay? Now, I said it's kind of dry, maybe I milestone and toured on are kind of expensive. So I'm going to go back and let's say I want to just evaluate everything. So I'm going to uncheck that one. I'm going to evaluate everything. I don't think I have to change anything. No, my 60 came back. And, and now that I've got everything done, my producer has changed their mind, or I have changed my mind. And now I want to add brazen. So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to, I'm going to click on the use manual entry and I'm going to come down here and I'm going to add, excuse me, I'm going to do two comma four dash B. That's inexpensive. And I had run, I either run 1.50 or I know from using 1.50 that that is a low rating and that my pathway again is solution, right? So now two for D get that. The other thing that you could say, the other thing that we did is we said, okay, some of our producers, right, we have, I don't remember mark three, four pages worth of, of, of reporting area, right? So you can use a pretty, you know, our producers with large operations have a number, a number of products and a number of risk pathways to evaluate. And so what we did is we said, okay, we get past three pages and we're not going to import everything that's low or very low. And if, and the spreadsheet will tell you when you do that. So if you import something that has a lot of data and it will ask you or tell you that it, it's only going to pull in everything intermediate or above, right? So in this case, because my two for D is low, I wouldn't necessarily have had to add it, you know, I maybe would have just came down here and put a comment, producer added, you know, two for D rated low, right? I mean, you, you can do enough flexibility, however you want it, put it in your assistant notes, whatever. You know, if it was intermediate or higher, the product I was substituting with, then I would, I would probably come back and either hand write it in or put it, or put it in here. Okay. So one of the things that you can also do for your producer if you want is you can help them with mode of action numbers. Now, I'm old, I usually just go get the S issue herbicide, you know, the weed guides and I open it up and I look for them and I put them in. But our techie people have included this mode of action lookup. And so if you click on the mode of action lookup, it will take you to the website and you have a choice. So are we looking for herbicides, diseases, insecticides, what are we looking for? So if I click on insecticides, I have to kind of scroll down a little bit. And there's an insecticide lookup tool scroll down a little bit. And I type in my warrior two, right? And it tells me that it's a three. Okay. So I have a short memory. I'm going to put a three. Okay. And then if I come back, and I come over here to my weeds, scroll down, do my herbicide lookup tool, come down to my trade name, I find my milestone, right? So my milestone is a four. Okay. So I can get out of this, come back to my table. And so I know that my milestone was a four. And I'm going to write herbicide because there's enough space. And I'm going to write for my warrior, it was a three. I'm going to write in five, right? Because a herbicide is not the same, you know, they're not the same rating system. They each have their own rating, mode of action rating system. Okay. So they're not, it's not all the same. So a four and one is not a four and another, right? But that gives you the flexibility to do that for your producer. You know, if you and your producer are visiting about herbicide or pest resistance, right? There's a number of different things beside weeds that are resistant. Okay. Okay. So we've done that. So we've got our risk. We know what points we need. So in this case, I need 60 points. And now it's time for me to start thinking about what are my mitigation strategies going to be? Okay. So this is kind of preloaded, preloaded for crop land, right? But and, you know, I have alfalfa and grass, doesn't matter. I can just overwrite these and choose the things I want. Okay. So monitoring and economic pest holds. Yep. That's probably, that's probably something I'm going to do. Now, you know, am I already doing it or is it something I'm planning? Well, maybe, maybe I'm not doing it very well. So I'm going to go ahead and plan to do that. You know, application and timing and rain. You know, I'm pretty good at about not spraying when it's raining. I'm already doing that. And so I'm going to give myself, that's something I've already, I'm already doing. And when I, when I was running my wind PST, right for my herbicides, I said that I was, I was spot applying. So I'm going to come down here to my mitigations and I'm going to find partial application. And I don't have my glasses on. So partial treatment. Here we go. I'm spot spraying. And I'm saying I'm already doing that. Okay. And so you can see that as I'm selecting those mitigations, it's adding up in the bottom of my spreadsheet here. Right. Okay. So there was, we had, we had some debate about this. But here's how, here's how this works. Okay. You know, the debate was do we add existing and plan together to get a total? Or if they're going to move forward, you know, if they're, somebody's already doing them, we're, you know, for instance, a conservation practice, let's say they're already doing it, we're not going to pay them to do it. You know, again, I mean, they're already doing it. But we want to hold them to that level. Right. I mean, they're already doing it. We're not going to pay them to do it. But we want to hold them to that level. So we're going to go ahead and we're going to go ahead. And if they're already doing it, and we want them to continue doing it, we're going to select it again in the plant. And we're going to use this plan column to generate the points that we need to meet our, our mitigation. Now, I have partial treatment selected, right. I'm already spot sprayed my, my pastures. Okay. But the warrior that I need the 60 mitigation points for is on my alfalfa field. I am not going to spot, apply for my alfalfa weevils. I'm going to spray the whole field. Right. So even though I'm doing that already on my brass, I'm not going to take credit for that in my mitigation points, because for my, my warrior for my crop fields, I'm not doing that. So what we've, what we, this is where some of your lumpers, some of your splitters, what we've said, right, in our instructions, as we've said that we need to do the job sheet, the assessment for the operation. Okay. But and so we're going to choose things that are applicable to where the risk are associated with, right, for that operation. If somebody's management was significantly enough different that you wanted to split that operation into, you know, a couple different management and run when PST and do the job sheet separately for those two different management, you are absolutely welcome to do that. Right. If you want to split them apart and do more than one job sheet, you can absolutely do that. So like an example of when I would do that, you know, when I was in moon socket, I had producers with melon rotations, right, which used a lot of foliar fungicide that were very high risk. And then I had, you know, corn soybean rotations that had more roundup type products included, right. So I split those into two different, two different management and ran them separately because, you know, one required a very high level of mitigation and the rest of the management, you know, were more in that intermediate and low range, right. So I didn't want to hold them accountable, you know, at the higher level for the whole operation when it didn't, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't necessary, it didn't fit, right. And the same with my alfalfa and brass, if I wanted to, I could split those two apart and do them separately. But I'm just going to not choose points that aren't applicable to what's causing my risk, right. So I'm doing it, I have it in here that I'm doing it, I'm just not going to select it. So what I'm going to go in and select is I think I, you know, and working, you know, working with my producer here, we're going to do forage harvest management, forage harvest management. And so that's a new practice. So I'm going to put that in my conservation plan and I'm going to plan it. I'm going to choose this partial substitution. And I'm going to come down here to that one. It's a strategy rather than a practice. I'm going to choose that. And the reason I'm going to choose that is I, you know, in working with my producer have decided that chemical suppression, right, for my alfalfa weevil is not going to be my first go to. I'm going to first clip, you know, clip my alfalfa and then I'm going to monitor, right, monitoring for pest management is required. So I'm going to monitor and then I'm going to determine whether or not I need to come back with that, that insecticide application or whether just doing the clipping will suffice. And the same thing, I'm going to do the same kind of process on my, on my thistles, let's say. So I'm going to clip them. And then I'm going to watch the regrowth and determine, you know, if I need to make a herbicide application. So I'm going to use partial substitution. And the other thing that you're going to find is, you know, it's very easy to get your mitigation strategies. If you have a high, you know, a high index level needed for cropland, it's much more difficult to get those that those mitigation strategies, if you're doing like a perennial vegetation or grasses. Okay. And so you got to kind of really think about that. And so you can see I'm at 55 points. I'm not making it. So my options are, you know, Marcia, you can either, you know, find a different product that isn't quite as high. Or, you know, maybe, you know, maybe we can just make sure that we buffer those wetlands and, and drainage areas. And so I'm going to go ahead and choose filter strip. I'm going to make sure that I have a filter strip and maybe, you know, I don't want to give up, you know, too much. And it's already perennial vegetation. I'm actually going to say that I probably have it. And maybe I'm just going to say, give me, say that that's existing. I'm not going to plan, plan it. I've already, it's already with my alfalfa and my grass. My, my crick's already buffered. I'm going to say that that filter strip is existing. Okay. So now I've hit my 60 points. I've got the mitigation that I wanted. Okay. So I've got those things that I'm already doing, those things that I'm planned. When I get ready to apply this as the certified planner, I can either come back in here. I'm going to kind of double check and make sure Denmark should use the products that she said she did. Yes or no. Do I need to do anything else? You know, if you need to, you can add additional products to it. Just like I did earlier with the two for me. You know, you don't have to come back into here and check the little applied boxes. We can use your pencil, right? It's up to you. The other thing that we can talk about is let's say that I have decided that drift and pollinators is something that I would like to do, right? And so I need to come up here and I need to select them. So once I select them, right? Drift, we always need 20 points for drift. And for pollinators, we need an additional, you know, we need 10 points. So for drift, with the mitigations that I've already selected, I've got my 20 points for drift. But I have not selected anything that provides me a benefit for pollinators. So I would need to go in and select additional mitigation strategies for, you know, for pollinators if that was something I truly wanted to address. But, you know, the other thing that I would show you is, you know, because of space, right? We just, you can select what you want to show up here. So, you know, probably the default and the one that makes the most sense is plans. But let's say you want it, you know, if you wanted to show what was existing, you could do that. Or if you wanted to show what they applied, you could do that. But, you know, for the most part, plan makes the most sense. And then if you want to, even though plan is showing up in the boxes, if you want to see what, you know, your scores are for existing plan and applied, you know, based on your mitigations and what you've checked, they will show up down here, you know, in the bottom. You don't want to see that. You can turn it off. So, turn it on. You can turn it off. The other thing that I would show you is that Mark is so good about creating little carets that kind of explain what you need to do. So, right? So this carrot, we're going to select practices or techniques, right, from the tech note and the tech note. We've kind of summarized the tech note 5 and tech note 9 in, you know, in the spreadsheet. So everything is pulling from here. But those tech, and when I say tech note 5 and tech note 9, I mean national agronomy, tech note 5 and tech note 9. Because those are national tech notes, we can't put them on the state site under tech notes. But I did put copies of those in SharePoint under ecological sciences, agronomy. They're just in there. You could, if you want to access them from there. But we've summarized them in the job sheet here. You know, any time you're not quite sure, you know, just hover over the carrot, and it will kind of give you an explanation of what you're doing, right? And cells are, you know, so we've got, you know, solution identified as a resource concern. That's the highest one, that we need mitigation points for like these mitigation points. Let's see, did I choose any that weren't the same? Oh, I did. Okay. So filter strip, right? So you can see that we get left points for a filter strip for solution that we do for absorbed, right? And so this will choose the one that's giving you the lowest points, right? So solution was my resource concern. In my score up here, I'm not getting credit for it being 10 points under absorbed. I'm getting credit for it being five points under solution. And, you know, just kind of remind you what that five points means is that that five points means that it reduces pesticide loss by five to 10%. So if you get something that gets a score of 10, reduces pesticide loss by 25%, something that gets a score of 15 reduces pesticide loss by 50%. So you say, well, what if we want to add? What if we want to add more mitigation? And we can do that. We just have to find the research to show that, you know, like scientific, you know, journal articles to show that that reduction rate is actually occurring. So that's why you don't see a lot of additions to the mitigation strategies. It's just a little bit challenging to find the research to document, verify that those loss, or let's call it improvements, those improvements are occurring based on different practices and strategies, okay? But, you know, if there's something that you think we need to add, we can certainly look at doing that. Okay. So I think that is a pretty good overview of how you've finished fill this job sheet out. I can come over here, you know, let's say I'm done with mine, and let's say we want to look at one that's a little more complicated. So, you know, we can look at getting new WMPST. It's going to, now when you bring in new, it's not going to keep what you've already done. So that's all I'm going to go away. But let's say, you know, I have one here that's a test. I have to choose my pathways again. You can see that this producer has a lot more products, right? They're using a lot more products. It's a corn bean rotation, I believe me, and maybe wheat. And then we go to page three, and they filled in, right? So it's sent it over to the next page. Go back to page one, right? So, I mean, so it's very easy. It's very easy. You know, I think I pulled in the wrong one. I can go back to add WMPST data, and I can pick the one I want, pull it in, right? Just know that once, you know, once you've added something manually or what have you, you know, it's going to overwrite what was in there, okay? So I think that is all the steps on how to complete this portion. I think you're going to like that. I like it. I like it a lot. I think it's, I hated having to run WMPST and then type everything in again. So I hope you like it. I like it. You know, there's a place to put who planned. Remember, we need job approval, our, you know, vegetated job approval to plan, design, and certify the practice, right? So you can identify who planned it and who certified it. You know, there's a place to put comments. If you want to, you know, if there's something's changed and you want to make a note of it or what have you, you can do that. Like I said, we have scouting reports in here, or, and I would say these are more for, you know, your producer who is maybe trying to, you know, do their own monitoring. Now the one thing that was asked for and we did, or did, is a weed list. So I think, I think Eric had a weed list created. And so you can click on that and it will populate. And then I didn't notice it until yesterday, but we have a few things spelled wrong. Although some days I feel like this. Now it should be ragweed instead of rage weed. So you could come over here and edit your weed list. And so I think Woolly should have two L's here. We come down here to our rage weed and let's, let's get rid of him and making my rag instead of a rage. They'll leave, I think it's one word. So next time we'll try and get that fixed. And now I'll just, I'll just update it in the field of that guide. But so we've changed our, changed our weeds here and you can make them be whatever you want. You don't like that list. You can, you can make that weed list and then it changes. There's something I had to do to get it to change it. I think I just have to edit it first. Not put in there. You can make that be whatever you want. List pests from IPM plan. So if, you know, if the producer was using the IPM plan and they put their pest in the plan, you can come over here and you can put this button. I don't have anything in it and it will, it will pull them in. And then you can clear it if you want to start over. So if I go back to my plan and I put out the things that I wrote in there in the IPM plan are there, right? So I get that this is more geared toward your producers who are trying to do their own rather than your crop consultants. Your crop consultants, they're going to, they're going to have their own scouting forms. Marcia. Yes. This is Mark. Say, since you are demonstrating, you're doing a really nice job of demonstrating this thing by the way. And since you're demonstrating this part, I wanted to add that in the 595 job sheet tab, there are formulas in there that use the newer Microsoft Excel formula methods in Excel 2021. So if you have Office 365, everything works fine. All NRCS offices have that. If you give this to, it wasn't designed really to give to a producer, but if you do give it to a producer and they start type, they may not be able to run anything in the 595 sheet simply because they don't have Office 365. They got an older version of Excel or something. And I just wanted to point that out that this will run in our offices, the 595 part for sure. They will be able to run the IPM plan or enter stuff in the IPM plan and use those example scouting reports, but they may not be able to even look at what's in the 595 plan because the formulas won't work. So I wanted to point that out. All right. Thank you. And I guess in the example that we were given, the field office was printing this out and giving it to the producer. So they made it easier for the producer by putting the weeds and pests that they were planning to look for. And then they printed the scouting reports out for their producer so that they were sure that they were doing it. So like I said, most of your people probably are not going to need this, but we're trying to help you accommodate those producers that need some additional assistance. And then there's an example for grafts in here if you're scouting pastures or grazing lands of any kind. And then like I said, we consolidated the tech notes into the spreadsheet. That's what the spreadsheet pulls from. And then this is your data. This is your data that's being pulled over from WMPST that's being used in the spreadsheet. Now, the one thing I didn't tell you is let's say that there isn't a hazard rating for a product. Sometimes once in a while you'll come across it will be blank and there won't be a hazard rating. So when you are over here in the job sheet, if there isn't, if there's not a hazard rating in that spreadsheet for a particular product, then this just won't populate. So I think I've talked plenty long and we've got to give Joyce a chance to talk. Did I forget anything, Mark? Is there anything that I forgot to mention? The only thing that I would say is when you do the application, we've added those steps in the instructions at the last page of the instructions where it talks about all four or five things that they need to think through as they apply, document the application of the practice. At the very last, well, I think right there it is, right there it is. Scroll up a little bit, Marsha, and I'll show you where I'm talking about. And then up just 18 I think is the one you want to look at, if I remember, right? Yeah, to complete the form, okay, then there's A, B, C, and D. I think those are the things that I was trying to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I've got these in a couple spots for you. We've, Mark's got them here in the, when we sent this out initially, this got missed and it wasn't in that initial example that went out in the email. It's in the version in the field office tech guide and because I wasn't sure how quickly Mark could get it fixed, I also have these listed for you in the documentation requirements. So I have it in a couple places just to kind of help you remember kind of what you need to collect from the producer to help you document that they did what they needed to do in order to be able to certify the practice, right? That's a good point, Marsha, that they probably should download the version that's on the internet in the field office tech guide right now and they'll have the most current version with all this information in there. Yes. Yeah. Thanks. All right. Are there any questions for me? What do you guys have any questions? Is there anything that you didn't understand? I'm sorry, Dale here. I got a quick question. Let's say you have a producer and he, you know, he's doing the monitoring the application. He's doing no tail cover crops. It has like a C4 crop rotation. Do you have to go through the whole wind PST when you know he's going to be above, even if 60, he's going to have an extra high chemical that he's going to do, that he's going to meet the pams of the hitting like 60 or 65. Can we just put a note saying he's doing this, run PST due to this? Okay. So what I'm going to tell you is, as of today, right now, Dale, yes, you still need to run wind PST because policy requires that we run it. But based on you guys' suggestion, you know, I mean, a number of people have asked that question, do I need to run wind PST if I know my producer, my producer is electing to meet enough mitigation to get 60 points. And we just asked for and got a waiver from the ecological science division to write a tech note, right, that spells out when, when you would not need to run wind PST. And so, you know, it has to be, you know, it has to be the producer's choice, you know, but so that, that hasn't, we haven't got the tech note done, we, you know, we weren't going to make, we just got, we just got approval after the April, you know, cut off date for updating standards and stuff. So today, for now, you're going to run wind PST. In October, when we, you know, when we do the October release, we'll have our tech note done and we'll identify for you those situations where you won't have to run wind PST because you know that the producer, because the producer has elected to do enough mitigation strategies that they're going to meet the 60 point. Okay. So we just have to, we have to, what we're required to do is to write a tech note, lay everything out on what has to happen and what, what type of things are eligible, you know, we're going to, we've, I was told to limit the mitigation choices, right? We need to ensure that, you know, regardless of the lost pathway that we're meeting, you know, that mitigation. And so as soon as we get that done, you know, anticipated with October 1st, you know, time span, then we'll allow you to do that. But I have to get the tech note done first. Okay. Does that fair? Okay. So it's coming. Not quite yet. Any other questions?