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Man, hey man, listen man guys, make sure you do what she said. Y'all wanna keep this show going. Y'all gotta listen man. We need you to listen and come on in. What is your goal? You know, you got all this, telling all this what you wanna do. You want how many members you want? The world. What you talking about? Oh man, hey listen man, we got a guy, we got a couple of guys here today y'all. And they don't need no introduction man. If you're watching movies, these guys are getting in this movie thing now. These guys right here out of New Orleans man. These boys right here at Callio to be exact. Listen man, Callio projects to be exact. You all have heard, I've heard Master P of No Limit in them. They stay the holler at Callio. Man, why they boot up and don't give a, El Fobalaho or something like that. I remember him saying something like that. Check it man. Buy it, buy it. Yeah, buy it, buy it man. Ace man, Callio bars in the building man. What's going on? I'm calling man. Man, thank y'all for coming on the show man. Appreciate you guys man. Man, so we're gonna get into it, but I know how you are. Do you? Cause you got two over here today. It's hard to get in people background. Now I got it. Oh you gonna handle it? I got it. They're both from the same place so it's easy. Let's get it. Yeah, but they ain't the same age. Oh we round now. They're round now. Okay, okay. Y'all came up, y'all would sew together? No, he was all the boys young. Okay, okay. Go ahead. So, I wanna know, what was it like growing up in Callio? I laugh at that question every time. Cause it's like, how is it growing up anywhere else? Everywhere is different though. Right. Like when I'm from, it's a cool family vibe. Like we got big old court y'all. So it's like everybody know everybody. It's love there. Even though it's hell, it's love there. See I met a guy that said that, living where he was from, he'd have to be in his house, had a mattress up at his window because they always have drive-by shootings and stuff all the time. Yeah, you learn that quick. Like you know what I'm saying? Most of the time when people tell you about a fire, you learn as a kid, stop dropping roads. We knew that when we heard gunshots, everybody gotta lay down. We already knew it was normal. Like you said, coming up from there, it's like when you get older, and me older now, now I see a difference. Like man, I grew up from there. Like I come from that, from seeing the world. Because it's normal. When you grew up, your family from then, like everything normal, all the bad stuff you see, it's not bad, it's just normal. It's like, this what it is, this life. This is the neighborhood. This is the community we live in, you know what I'm saying? But how old were you when you first stepped out of your neighborhood to see a different environment? I said, I was young. I was young running through the city. So I was like in different projects and every different project, it was different. It was different. So it's different lingo, different talk. But till you learn my leaving, out of the city. Out of New Orleans. I'm saying like, until I was introduced to like the music side. So how old were you? I had to be like, I won't see. 17, 18. What stood out the most about wherever you went to that was so different to you than where you were from? It was like, they move how we move, right? Like what? Give me an example. I'm gonna say like, when you walk, I went on a road. So my first time being exposed to the world was on a road with a rap group. So it's like we in the hoods and the hole in the walls and it feel like I'm at home. So it's like, the world is just like where you from. Right. They got good and bad in every part of every city. Like, and we was in the trenches in every city. So it just felt like home. Like I had that mentality. I wanted to go see how they projects were. Yeah, you feel, you feel homely when you in the hood. But like, the difference is definitely a difference because New Orleans is so different from a lot of places. Like, cause when I first stepped out, I was like, I want to say 17. I came to Dallas. So I was in Dallas by my cousin. Cause I got put out at every school in the United States so I couldn't go back. So I tried to come out here. Did you finish school? Nah. Wow. Nah, I didn't. You just kept going, getting pulled out of the mall. Who's your... No, it was over. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, from that moment on, it was like hustle time, like what I'ma do. Like, what is it? Like, you know what I'm saying? What I'm about to do. But were you raised with your mom and dad? I was raised with my mom. I don't know my daddy. You don't know him at all. Yeah, so my daddy, that's why I look so different, right? But my mom, black, she krill. So I grow up with my mama. Okay. Yeah. So, but so you never heard, you know how aunties and somebody gonna say, your daddy round the street, he this, this, this, whatever, you never heard none? Nah. And your mama didn't tell you anything? I never asked. You never asked. Cause I had, like, my mom was gangsta. And her brothers and gangsters, her little brothers, so my uncle was big dogs, you know what I'm saying? Like, Tuesday crew and all that, you hear about like Bruce, but now I know, like that's my family. So I grew up under that. You know what I'm saying? So that was my role model. That was my daddy figure. My mama, like I said, she was a gangsta. So she, she, she raised me, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, I just grow up with my mama. Cause I always think, you know, I'm more, you know, mental. So I always think about all these different scenarios. And I always feel like the reason why children end up being bad or in certain situations is usually because of number one, their environment. But for males, for boys is always because the father is not there to really, cause mama can't beat a daddy. So a lot of times when mama trying to be harder than you trying to tell you, don't do this, don't do that, whatever. A lot of times boys be like, whatever. Well, nah, because, you know, like, that's bad, that's bad everywhere. Like you could be from anywhere and be bad. It's the type of stuff you, you're doing. So it was whatever you, the surrounding you are, that's what them, you know, they doing. Like some kids, they running away because they friend running away. Like my friends was toting guns and you know what I'm saying? So it was a different level of it, but it's the same thing. Like you're going, you know, they good and bad. Man, let me ask you a question, man. Like you coming up early, seeing that no limit movement, man, like you was a part of that, right? So like, like to see that happen right, right in the projects where you guys are from, how big was that? Man, that was big. Cause I remember the first time I seen like master people used to come in a project and a Levan called ice cream man and he used to just go play basketball in the gym and we didn't know how big it was going to be at that point. Then P just left and when he come back with that I'm bowed about it. He was different. Whoa. So you wait a minute. Cause there was a whole big dilemma about P stealing that whole ice cream man thing for them boys up there in California. But you telling me before body body, he was dealing with ice cream trucks. Yeah. No, he had an ice cream man truck. The truck see the ice cream man. So this was before he even was really just tied in up to. That was early on. P was already in California. Okay. He used to come down and he'd be in this ice cream man truck and he'll come in a project, play basketball and everything. That was body body early. That had to be early before that whole movement of that cause they had two ice cream man songs up there. Oh, where? I didn't know that but I've been watching. I'll be listening. And they, they were trying to say like P kind of hijacked what they had going, but early as you talking about, that would be way too early. Yeah. I'm telling you, I'm just- He had that cause when body body came, it was different. Like the project was on smash when body body came. And I remember the first time since he murdered coming in the project and he taken off his shirt and everybody like, who that is? And he got the true- True cause that TRU was big at that time it was real big. Right. The TRU thing seemed, I knew more about that. It was running naked. The no limit thing that this, these were two different scenarios, right? Nah, it really was the same thing. It was the same, but they pushed, they was pushing one seem like earlier than the other more. It was, first it was like it was Pete, but when he did his brother's- TRU. That was TRU. Yeah. Him, Silk and Seed was TRU. Dang, that's crazy. So, and did you think, did you feel like this serious and it's gonna be some money, some changes and what that was? About the time body body came, it was on fire from there. Like body body, the movie, it just took off from there. Damn, that was early on to be doing an independent film too. So that's crazy, man. That's still a number one independent film in the streets is body body. Was Callio really like, you know, like the way that people were pushing it and saying the, like the grind, you know. It wasn't no script. It was just, he just pulled up in a project on a regular date. So everything that transpired in the project for body body, that was exactly how the Callio is. You got like hundreds of people outside all day, 24 hours a day. By the time, you just say three o'clock in the morning, you might got a hundred people in the cold wake. Wow. And you know, you can do, you can do something. Dang that, you know, because you go from every hood. You, I mean, in Atlanta, it's born homes. And, you know, you got Callio. Y'all got some more projects down there, too. I'm pretty sure you got, you know, you got uptown. You got all type of different stuff going on over there. Right. Like, like, man, like, but then I always run to the hood. She know how I am. Even in Chicago, they standing outside the stoves, man. Like, wherever I go, wherever it is in LA, I went to Y to get my hair cut. I'm trying to go to my people, bro. Like, man, y'all better be careful. Like, but these people are our people, bro. And I think people don't realize that. I see, you know, that's crazy that people be thinking like that, bro. But in the streets, we know how each other move. Like, it's a sign of respect the way you walk when you're in the hood. Like, you ain't got a word about offending somebody else. But it's different because then I remember when we went to Chicago, although we drove down there because he wanted to stop and go check out some of the stores and stuff like that. Because I was with him. He started thinking like, no, let's, let's, let's keep going. You got like 25, 30 niggas standing in front of the stove. I don't have no heat. We in a brand new, we in some nice. Right. And I ain't got nothing to do. If I have to defend myself, right. So it's like, no, not this one. So I went to the West side. Then we went to the North side. Which is really nice. You gotta be smart with it. What it is. When this was, it was probably five years ago, six years ago. Maybe five years ago. We've been back 50. Street change now. We talk about now the new streets, this shit different now. It's way different. That's different. It ain't no respect out here. No, at all. And I just, you know, you really want to know like when I went back when we were like Aruva Junior and all them boys, it was different. You know what I'm saying? You knew that they knew how they were moving in a city. Right, right. That's what the check-in thing be about. People really get offended by it. But really it's like, it's the way you look at it. It's like, if I'm, if you come and rock out with me, you know, I'm not, I'm, I'm to the rock with you. You know we good because we rocking together. Right. But if I'm rocking with just, just, just checking in with somebody I don't know, that, that's different. It could be exploitation. But you know how you say, you know, things are different. Let it get like that. You know what I'm saying? If they see what they're dealing with, they're going to see how to approach you. Because you can check in like just on some man, like you need something. I got you, you know what I'm saying? I'll let my people know you out here because you know everybody be connecting when they in the city. I knew the robbers. I knew this, I knew this. People come in, they see shit. You know what I'm saying? They go, of all that, like now I got my people out here. That's what you're saying? But you know how you say things are different nowadays because they have no respect and stuff like that. But like how you was talking about earlier, it's a different generation. But the younger kids, it's normal to them compared to we're older, we know certain things have how it used to be. So now we looking like, nah, it ain't like how it used to be. Y'all ain't got no respect. This, this, this, this, this. Right. Because I think the respect wasn't enforced it like you took a lot of street cats all around the world off the streets. And these kids grew up with no fathers and they grew up without the top man in charge that make you show respect. Like when I was young, it was people that enforced respect. Like if you ain't gonna be out here cursing around these old folks, they gonna beat your ass up or something. That's real. You gotta get from around here. You see a old lady, you gonna help her with her groceries. You need help. Hold it though for a woman. Like, so when you got a lot of old g's no more. Yeah, but they got locked up. That's what I'm saying. They ain't get killed. The old, the true old g's got locked up and that's the ones who just couldn't leave the streets alone and go take 50. Like look at me. Well, I feel like honestly, that's triple old g's. Cause like this generation, we the old g's now. Yeah. Old g's are younger nowadays. Like, they was young. When we was looking up this, they was like our age. You know what I'm saying? Like we just getting older. So you know what I'm saying? But it's like, what I feel like a lot of like, a lot of the kids that's like in that generation that's messed up right now because it wasn't no God as it wasn't no old g's. We had somebody we knew who, who was who. And then everybody had respect. Even the killers like y'all watch out. You know what I'm saying? Now it's like, everybody just feel I got a gun. I'm a gangster. I shoot some, I'm a gangster. Like them dudes like more worried about how we gotta get away. We gotta get, you know what I'm saying? Not getting called. They just doing stupid shit. And like what I say about a lot of people in New Orleans like the generation like, like we couldn't get a whole ton. Katrina happened. So everybody all over the place. And then a lot of them, a lot of people knew us for old g's. They killed it. They killed everybody. Ain't no killer. You know what I'm saying? I feel what you're saying about that. So they brainwashed theyself to be a gangster. Like, oh you from New Orleans, you're a killer. So they, they pretended. So all the scary niggas you said. Yeah. So they pretended so much that they're a killer. Now I got a gun. Now I'm a killer. So now they gone. There ain't no structure. There ain't no rule. They just pop shooting. They just shooting shit because they know, they ain't worrying about, oh I'm gonna catch this one at a time right. They just like, they just going with the move. Everybody getting called. Everybody doing this. And it's the people getting hit because it wasn't, they ain't have nobody listen to not, not all these little kids coming out with this straight kill them some, shoot them up. Yeah. It's all in the music. And they growing up off that. That's what they feel. No, that was, that's how we grew up of music. Or how this, I mean. But we seen consequences five way action. Yeah. But they still doing it. They ready to come home and kill some more. Yeah, yeah. Boy what, what, what, I seen camera running the hood with you man. Like how you bring that boy to the hood? That's the homie. How the hell you bring camera? That thing from the East Coast, man, from Harlem. He stay on his block forever. That's the way they do it in New York. I'll be up there. They don't go nowhere like that. Some of them, but he wanted the one to sprung out. He go everywhere. Yeah, man, that's the homie. I wasn't meeting him. He's, he live, man. I like him. Yeah, that's the homie. Man, every time you come in the city, you know, we link up. But on funny story, I was facing the charge. So I was out on buying on house arrest. So I couldn't move around and do no music or nothing. So what I did was I brought all the resources to me. Okay. So I started booking shows. So I brought Cameron to the Cali-O. I brought the breakfast club to the Cali-O. I brought Nipsey Hustle to the Cali-O. Dej Lo to the Cali-O. Shot Glyzzy, like I'm taking everybody and I'm taking them to the hood. So when I book them, I just float them through the city. You feel me? Let everybody tap in whoever won't get a feature or something. Because I got tired of the promoters letting rappers come in town. They get their money and they leave. So they don't show no love to the city. That's hard, boy. But that's going on today. Yeah. What's the deal going on? We ain't letting that go on our watch. What you just said, like that's what happens. Like I got in this game, man. It wasn't like, you know, the promoters bring people to the city, but they not trying to, no, they not. No, you have to know somebody. Or even if you do know somebody, again, they still feel like, man, I'm booking them. I ain't rocking with it like that. But they don't understand that's how the city grows. That's how you get that look. Right, that's the fact. But I had to create it on my own, but I already was rocking. But I'm just saying, I knew the moves. I never even, I didn't look at it that way because I prayed for it and then God give it to me. That's the fact. Ain't no in between, ain't no middle man. That's the fact, you know. Direct to the soul, sure. I got the man on my side, you know what I'm talking about? You got to have the man on your side, man. So did y'all do some music video? What did y'all do down there, y'all? Me and Cam, we did a song, you know. We shot a video on the project and everything. That's hard, that's hard. And so, what year was that? Because that was a while back. Yeah, that had to be right before I went to jail. So what year that was, 2015? 2015, yeah. That's hard, that's hard. Do you like their new show? They got a new podcast they be doing the sports on, don't they? Yeah, I tap in with that. It is what it is, you heard me? I was gonna really get at them another day because they had a few things going on about the city, about Dallas, about a couple of things. They was saying some stuff and I was like, man, I gotta get at them. Then I said, nah, I'ma let them make it. Dallas lip right now. Y'all got a career in Luba. Man, come on now. Y'all lip right now. We got Earl Spence, too, long, long trip. Oh man, I don't know about the child boys, dude. Hey, they still are, they still ain't listen. They may not, I don't wanna go that way with you cause they still, that franchise different. That money ain't different over there. See, that's what we talk about the OGs. See y'all, we don't respect the OGs, man. That Troy A. B. Emmys Smith era over with them. It's over, ain't it? Y'all stuck with Dak right now. Nah, but Dak gon' have to come on with it. I think he can do something. We ain't giving up, uh-oh. We ain't giving up on Dak still. You ain't giving up on Dak or no. I'm sorry, I'm all right. He from Luzelle. Nah, Dak gave up on you. You know what I'm saying? He from y'all hood. Who? Dak from Luzelle. Dak from Luzelle, man. What they say, I'm from New Orleans. I'm from Luzelle. You hear that? So man, like, what's the, okay, this movie. What's the name of the movie again? Super Rich. Super Rich. Is it Super Rich? Super Rich, like, Super Rich. Yeah, like a Super Rich type of guy, you feel me? Tell me a little bit about the movie, man. And you came up with that name. Yeah, one day, this funny, man. Cumber said, we smoking some weed one time, right? And we smoking some good weed. I'm like, man, it's like some Super Rich type of shit. You heard me? He like, ooh, we should use that. We should use that. So I did a song with it. And the song had the city on fire when I dropped the song. And it was me, Mr. Mosello from the Magnolia and Seto as Birdman, best friends. Okay. So we shot the video, brought out the whole city. We shot in Cali on the Magnolia. And I just ran with it. So when I was thinking about writing this movie, I'm like, shit, Super Rich. And I created it around a weed screen. And I got a, I got a cannabis screen out there in California. That's hard. That's hard. Yeah. So the movie about a weed screen, it just make you get off that bullshit. Like you smoking to get you out of body experience. So it just opened your mind, nothing. Because I'm buying that shit. That's hard. Yeah, that's hard. So is it like an action or is it comedy? It's a comedy. It's just me and him at war on the movie. Oh, okay. That's hard. So you and I said war? Yeah, we at war on the movie. Okay. I got to check this out. We start off at war. Y'all come together. So you're never friends? Yeah, we just know about each other. You know what I'm saying? We like to the same industry. Okay. Super Rich, y'all got to go check that out, man. But we going to drop this in the fall. In the fall? Super Rich, man. Y'all got to check that out. What platforms are you going to drop it on? We going to drop it on Toovie. Okay. That's hard. I'm going to over there and try to run Toovie right now. I see that's a lane right there. That is a lane. It is. That's a lane. If you got it, if you good, you can take it over. Oh, for sure. If you great? Yeah, I just got sick and tired of everybody coming to New Orleans. Don't be long for Netflix, Collin. Yeah, everybody. They kept coming to New Orleans and shooting movies and there ain't nobody in New Orleans in our movies. Wow. Like they got this movie, CTC, that they shot in New Orleans, man. That was a bad representation of us. And the Rizza came down and he used the same guys that was playing in Wu-Tang to play in New Orleans niggas, like. Why not get New Orleans guys? Exactly. Cause one thing I hate, I hate to see movies where these fake accents, I can't stand it. Cause I'll be like, no, that's not real. Like. They don't say you like that. They don't say you even like that. Right. You can get local people to do different parts. It don't have to be a big part, but it can be some parts, you know? But we got actors for the big parts. You know what I'm saying? Tracks. We got a bunch of actors from New Orleans. You know what I'm saying? Maybe they don't know. They know. They know. A lot of them have been on stuff. Anthony Mackie, you know where he's from? New Orleans. Really? Yeah. Wow. Man, it's a lot. Wendell Pears. Wendell Pears. Jason Mitchell. Who's the biggest actor out of New Orleans? Tyler Pears. Tyler Pears. Tyler Pears. Tyler Pears. Don't know. Renell. No, what the dude name is? Ben Renell? No, it's somebody bigger than, uh, what his name is? Anthony? No, man. Harry Connick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who is that? What movie did he come in? Harry Connick Jr. Yeah. He's a big actor. He's from the West Bank, huh? What movie did he come in? Yeah. Steven Seagal from out on the West Bank. No, really? Nah, he was a police out there. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that movie with partners. Oh, OK. Yeah. So, what's the first movie you've ever done? Is this the first movie? No, no, no. No, I know you done. I did a movie called Big Dog with JT the Bigger figure. OK. JT the Bigger figure? Yeah, man. That's the homie. He came to New Orleans, and he was one of those ones. Like, it's my partner though, but he came now, shooting the movie, and he called me for a part. And I'm like, what you doing? And he's just coming in our project with other people. And it's like, nah, nah, we don't do this. He don't do that. Nah, we could be partners. So let's link up and do something together. So he gave me a number. I gave it to him, and we got it done. Bigger figure, respect to the move. Yeah, he had to. Man, that's hard, man. I like it because you step it up. But it take hard to do what you're doing, because some dudes would be, you really, like, I ain't never act. So you got to think about it. You got hard to do that. You know what I'm saying? You probably got more hard. Certain niggas in the hood, probably some niggas hiding from that camera. When that camera comes, niggas, nah, I would be. No, put them cameras up. Yeah, that's a fact, though. But you wrote this movie, though. Yeah, I wrote it. Yeah, but this is your first movie you've written. Yeah, this is the first movie I've written. Oh, OK. Yeah, that's how I got it. I love it. The first one was a running gun. It's just like we just pull up on every block, every project in the city. Like I expanded my reach. You know, it's like it ain't too many people that could do what I could do in New Orleans that could go through every hood and tap in with every big dog. Wow, that's a major. Ace, man, I know you done been in several films, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I started in 2008. I started in 2008 on an HBO series, Tremade. OK, I started on the second season planning as a rapper. So that was my first ever acting experience. I ain't never went to school for it, but I still never went to school. You didn't take no acting classes at all? So what helped me was music. So I played as a rapper, so I was like, I'm being myself. I can remember the lines because I can remember lyrics. I could get into the mood because I could get into the mood when I hear instrumental, then it pulls you into, you know what I'm saying? So I put the two together. So when I film, I feel like I'm shooting a music video. So that's what helped me with music. So I could get into it and when I get around these big name actors and shit, and I see, OK, this person act like this on screen and off screen. So I'm about to just be myself. I'm about to just be a different version of myself. But the difference is to me, when you do a music video, music videos are so short compared to a movie. In a movie, you have to stand that character for a much longer time than if you do in a. Well, not facts, but when it's when it's film time, that's not really a long time. Like you'll wait all day before you film. You just there. You know what I'm saying? But like I said, I'm still me because I'm just a different version of myself. Like one of my biggest films that I'm working, I'm still working on as a TV series, a B.T. series called Sacrifice. So we just finished the second season. That's going to be coming out pretty soon. But and I play as a hacker. So they wanted me to be from that early. Yeah. Glasses. There ain't no one near me, but I just I got a professional side. So it's like, I'm going to figure it out. Like I'll be on the US one out of type hack, all this stuff. And I had to hook up with a dialect coach because when they first met me, I just I just was in my natural accent. Right. So they like, look, you we need you to sound like you from Cali. So I'm like, I don't know how I'm going to do that. Like, it don't matter how much I clear my words of you going to still hear it. And so people. So they made me like I was you from Louisiana then on the shoot, because I tried. I once said with the dialect coach and people saw it and it was like, you from Louisiana. And I'm like, man, I tried hard to I tried hard. I'm I'm I'm more thinking of my pronunciation of how I'm saying it. Then you got to keep trying. You got to keep trying because it blows my mind when I see some of these actors like Idris knowing that he's from England and, you know, I didn't even know all the time I've been watching his movies. I did not know that I heard him doing an interview and I heard his natural dialect. I'm like, yeah, they killing it over there. Why are you never knew the why? You never knew he was that it'll do. It'll do from a DMF. Which one, the crazy one, Lamar. Oh, really? Yeah, you hear that boy talk. Yeah, he's from. He's from New York. I know I knew from get out. Oh, it's a lot of them. I was trying to know that. Yeah, man. And yeah, because I noticed because a lot and I was like, why is it that a lot of English actors, like they take over the whole like acting like Hollywood, they take over a lot of movies because you don't ever you don't ever notice till they're doing the interviews. Right. And you're like, how many of these actors are from or do they move over there after they get big? Yeah, you know, dude, from Snowfall. Oh, I know that for sure. But I guess I would English is the most spoken language. So it's easier to learn that than us learning French. But then actually, you speak English right now. You're from New Orleans. You should be able to still pick up the accent of California. Right, right. I don't think I'll try. But y'all dialect is so strong. You know what I mean? So but I'm sure the state do more practice. Yeah, I practice. I definitely practice. You know what I'm saying? When I'm on a show, like I go with it. You know what I'm saying? So let me ask you a question. Soldier Slim always asks a lot of people this, because especially me from New Orleans, I know a lot of people who talk very highly of him. You knew him, of course. Yeah, I know him for sure, for sure. So tell me about him growing up and so forth. Slim used to cut my hair. Him and my cousin was best friends. My cousin, like, who he used to run under. His name was Reg. They called him Slugged Up Nigga. So under KLC and on Parkway Pumping Records, that's who my cousin used to rap for. He was supposed to sign a masterpiece before Soldier Slim. He got killed. So I know Slim, like, Slim had it since young. Like, as young Magnolia Slim, he was that dude with rapping and everything. Like, for sure, for sure. Wow. And for you? Well, Slim, man, Slim was always my, that's my favorite rapper. You know what I'm saying? What's your favorite song? Since he your favorite rapper. You don't even say favorite song? I don't know if I got a favorite, favorite song. No one that stands out. Give me one. Well, I pay for it. You know what I'm saying? There was a gangsta dude on some swag shit. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, all right, bet. But he got classy and you know he was telling the truth. So it's always drew me to him. I like his rap style, you know what I'm saying? But nah, Slim was a legend. No, because a lot of people, because since we've been going back and forth in New Orleans, a lot of people always talk about him and talk about him very highly. But I've met some people who say that, you know, it's just now that he's gone, everybody's talking so good about him. But when he was around, people wasn't really just dealing with him like that. Nah, that's cap. That's cap. Like one thing to show him, Slim was love. Like Slim pulled up in that cali, you ain't be out there all day. And he a leader, ain't going to St. Bernard and going to the opera field. Like he was one of the ones that could go on every project too. And I tell everybody like Slim got killed before he could, he was going through that transition and make that change. I heard that. Like he said in one of his songs, I'm coming closer with God, asking him to forgive me. You feel me? We, he died in the middle. Like the ex pills hit New Orleans and it went crazy. It took the scariest person on there and made him real on drugs. And you ride around in that Slim and you on some ex pills, you out your mind. You might shoot up a whole crowd. And that ain't what Slim was rapping about. It was murder with a purpose. Like it was always get the money first. And Slim died before he can make that transition to change that whole culture in New Orleans. Cause he was trying to change that culture in New Orleans. Wow. Slim is one of the ones, every show we get a mention on Slim boy cause everybody said they loved him. Yeah, that's a track though. Yeah, it was a, it was a, well everybody felt him when Slim got killed. Yeah, real tough. So since both of y'all in, you know, in music. Right. I've always said, you know, being a mother and raising children and children are into this music. People always come sit at that seat and talk about the music helped me through the music did this, music did that. But now with the music, the way how it is, especially rap music, always talking about shooting, killing, robbing, all of that sort of stuff. I know people who are entertainers who said, I don't even let my kids listen to this or I have to change my way of what I'm rapping about because now I have children who are listening to this. How can I be that representation? So what do you think about the music and where it's at right now and the young people that are listening to it? We talk about this in the car on the way up here. Like, I don't listen to that. If it don't feed my soul, I don't listen to it. And I don't, it was one of the reasons I stopped rapping cause it's like, I didn't rap my life already. It ain't nothing else. What I'm doing right now, it's shit boring to them. They don't want to hear that. And when me and him got back together, it's like, him, what he rapping about? I say, you a very special person when you could get on a beat and it say exactly what you want to say, not what the beat make you say. Cause a lot of people just put words together and they don't mean nothing or what they saying. Shoot them and spend on them and smoke as grandmother and you don't mean nothing. You ain't even living like that. It sound good. But you will put that out there and you will have somebody who look up to you and go do exactly what you saying in a song. You feel me? Cause it's like the difference on the influence with me, it was, it was more of a get money culture coming up. Like every rapper rapped about getting money. Like you ain't respecting no robbers or somebody who talk about taking something for somebody. Like they got killed fast. So it was always about the hustlers. But then the music shifting is about the killers and the drug users. So it's like, who could take the most drugs? If you could get on Miley and Perkiset, you lit, you feel me? Like you on a speed bar. Right. And all these rappers be telling their business and this music, that's why all these recos and they arresting people and all of that because of that. And I'll always think, I'm like, how can you be so stupid? Fast. Let's talk about Tough Guy, man. Help me out with that. What, what, what, how did that become about that label? Tough Guy was, that was my homie Dodo, man. My homie Dodo and him and Master P was like, that was good friends. So one day he just was on the porch like, man, we're going to start a record label and I'm going to make Pete sign us. He didn't say I'm going to ask P. Like I'm going to make Pete sign us. And like, he don't know the fucking Master P like that. And he started the label and he put some groups together and then he got a business partner. And they brought Mr. Marcelo and then he went straight to Master P and got a deal. And I remember one day we was on a porch and the phone rang and priority records telling him he went gold. And it's like, he went gold, nigga. You're so 500,000 albums. Like shit, it's time to hit the road now. That's hard, man. For real though. Cause it was like then once he got that phone call and said that, he like, no more drug dealing. Like if all y'all going, whoever going to hustle, y'all go over that with that shit. We going to do it. So it went bam, bam, bam. He told you it boom, it happened. Yeah, for sure, for sure. So was currency, currency was a part of that, right? Yeah, currency was a part of that. He came, probably like the second leg of tough guy. Like once we went gold, then he formulated like a record company. And then Marcelo brought currency and that's where he started that. Wow. How does it have you, you and currency that hung out and- Yeah, yeah. That's my brother. How is currency these days? Like, I know he came to Dallas one time. I was like, I'm trying to get him on the show but I didn't know you at the time. I wish I'd have knew you'd in. I don't think that Carl Ian. For sure, for sure. Out of here with the, oh. But how is he? I mean, I've been a big fan of him. Yeah, he good. I just left another day, man. We did our own call show down there for Essence Fest. Letting no boss talk, watching out for him. I'm always watching, you know what I mean? Big brother watching. I'm big brother now. I'm with these cameras, you know what I'm saying? So like, so do you feel like tough guy was a good representation as a branch out from No Limit, like that? Hell yeah. It was the guys that Master P wouldn't take on No Limit. They could come under Dodo because it's like he that shriek guy and he the one who, he respect him. So if you tell him, chill, chill. Like C-Murder hung under Dodo. So every time C-Murder covered California, he hanging under Dodo. And Dodo, that move and shaker, like, you know, his word is locked. What happened to Dodo? Dodo got killed. How? Scree shit. So yeah, cause I know how y'all is in New Orleans. I ain't nobody, street shit. That's it. No, I'm not. No, I mean, would he get shot? Yeah, he got shot up, but that's like. In the Callio Projects? No, no, they ain't coming back there. Okay, I'm just asking, you know what I'm feeling? Like keep running outside, looking in. You be like. Yeah, it don't really happen like in the Callio. Like people don't come in the Callio and kill people. Like, nah, that wasn't happening. Wow. So I want to ask you also about Kevin Miller. I've been asking everybody about Kevin because Kevin was the, that was the whole movement when Pete was coming out with TRU and no limit. You'll hear him say, my little brother, Kevin Miller, resting peace. He would say that all the time. He was bodied by it. And he would keep, you know, every, you know, that miss my homies and all that. Like, did you ever know him or see him in Callio when he was living? I know of him through his uncle. You feel what I'm saying? Through your uncle. I ain't say your uncle was over there. He, what was your uncle like? Bruce. He still around? Nah, he dead too. He dead too. So Bruce used to be a little older. Yeah. And Bruce was the head of that clique that, that Master P and Kevin have come under. Okay. So he was a part of that Tuesday crew. If you hear Master P, you always talking about Tuesday crew. That's what Bruce was. Yeah. So I know Kevin through, you know, his uncle and stuff. You feel me? But, you know, I say like, if you want TRU, like losing your brother, that'll give you like, I ain't got no other option. Is either go to the streets and become a killer over my little brother or do some positive. And I think Pete channeled that hurt and did some positive for his brother. Wow. I mean, I'm a big fan of Pete. You see things, right? Like recently I seen some things where people, I seen some people saying Pete might not have money. He might be broke. And you hear this stuff, but I'll be like, what kind of broke is that? These big houses and cars and shit. Well, I mean, I want to be broke. I won't be that type of person. This is kind of broke. I want to be, you know what I'm saying? Like, when you see people making these accusations, but then you see him living how he living, what do you think about that? I mean, what is broke? That's what I'm saying. I mean, he's still in Calabash. He just brought a new house. But one thing about Pete, he a hustler though. You might, every hustler have a downtime when you trying to realize shit, trying to figure it out. And I think Master Pete just went through that, I'm not dealing with movies. I'm not dealing with music. I'm going to prod up. Yeah, yeah. And he hit with the rap snacks and now he running with Snoop with the Snoop loops. Man, I'm going to put some Snoop loops on this table and eat me a bowl just for the nigga, to be honest with you. Yeah, for sure. I'm going to taste it. I ain't never tasted it before, but that's going to happen. I'm going to get me a bowl of what they, you ate something up? No, I ain't. I'm going to check them out. I'm going to check them out. I got all the snacks on my shelf back here. Yeah. I've been waiting on them to call me so I can pull them out and say, y'all, you sponsoring me? Yeah. No, I just got them. Cause I wondered, I was like, man, I'm going to get in here. So they selling them out here? I don't know. I'm going to find me something that they in LA, wherever. I'm going to, somebody's sending me something. They call it Amazon. Go on there. I don't have everything. I don't know how the hell this dude can figure all this out. What's the name? Jeff? What's that? Faceos? But so, so when you think about just like all the music that do happen down there now, is there, who's the hot artist? Is there any hot artists down there? Yeah. You know what? At the head, it's, it covers up there at the top. Curtis is still the man. Top of the food chain. That's his city. You feel me? We could put a stamp on it and say that's Jet Life City. Then under that branch, you got Rye 49. Yeah, Rye 49. You got YD to Ellis. You got Cali, your Bob. You got Cole Youngin. You got treated like New Orleans on fire right now. Like we were coming back for our position in this music. So I got to ask is I access every show, especially dealing with someone New Orleans. How major would it be for the city if Master P came together with Birdman for a sit down and an interview? I don't know. I don't, to be honest, I don't know the impact. It'll never happen. It'll be now because the city. You don't think it'll never happen? No, they're talking right now, but I don't know the impact. It could happen. Yeah, they didn't talk. It could happen. They're talking. They already been talking because I heard they had come sent through. I don't think Mr. Servo will lie to me. He told me they didn't have conversations before. Yeah, they're talking, but how impactful when they're older now. That's what I was on. It would have been more when they were younger. Yeah, like that generational gap, like all those guys who was between whatever went on, they owe, they live in their life what they found. It's like they ain't trippin' about nothing. You feel me? It's like, how do you touch these yukes? Now y'all can sit down now if y'all come together and make a powerhouse and sign some people and put some situations together. You feel me? Now that would change the streets. That would change because you ever get people opportunities. Yeah, because I always feel like, you know, when I see people who've been, say, you had millions and then you got caught up and you went to prison and you come back, changed your life and you're trying to educate some of these youths of how to act and how to be and stuff like that. A lot of these yukes be, if you're in the streets, they'll be like, who are you? You ain't got none right now. This, this, this, this. But these people still have. These people are still striving. These people are still going, moving up. They can still educate a lot of these youngsters because they used to be in the streets back in the days. So they can't, and I would think that these younger people would still listen to these people because of their status. With opportunity. Because other than that, you eating good and you telling me to change my ways while I'm starving and then you walk off and you still eating good and I'm still hungry. You got to give me that opportunity. But there's a lot of people though. How can you give everybody an opportunity that you're trying to touch? I mean, it's structured. They put us in poverty through a plan and we could get a plan to get out of poverty. This ain't just happening overnight. This structure is to keep us there, you feel me? But that's the government. When you think about Pete or Birdman, they're small compared to the government. To the government of the world, but we feed the hood. We take care of the hood. We inspire you to hood. Like under my watch, and I ain't gonna say like Pete and baby ain't do it because they did it also, but I carried the torch and put some through college and inspire you some artists to become artists and actors and you feel what I'm saying? So like you said, when you at that height in your game, you got to get a game of somebody else to thrive and then they feed their family. So you just mainly talking about the New Orleans. Right. Cause that's what's affected by them two not getting along. Right. What is the difference between uptown and downtown and what is the difference? I'm not from there. Uptown to Mecca. You know what I'm saying? Let me know what's going down. Uptown to Mecca, you're... Give me the dip, what's the difference? It's the Mecca. I was swag, I was lingo, I was talk. You gonna say that cause you from there. Nah, I run with downtown, shout out to downtown. Like I got a lot of homies downtown, you know? I live downtown, shit. When I was a kid, I grew up half and half. What's the difference between that and the West Bank? Well, I don't know, I interview people. Like New Orleans is like every section is its own city. Like everybody got different lingo. You feel what I'm saying? Like the West Bank, they got their lingo. They do what they do, like, you know what I'm saying? They don't have, they got one project on the West Bank. And that project is shaped like a Chicago project. You know what I'm saying? Like it's one big long building and stuff. Like Uptown, we got cult ways and cuts and everything, you feel me? So in our side, our cult ways, it's different. So I got a question. So Randall Watts, tell me how was he important to Uptown? Oh, he was important to the yo. Like that's big though. That's what I'm talking about. Like a guy who has the influence at his height and you ain't disrespecting nobody around him. You need something you highlight him. You need advice you can highlight him. He give back to the kids. He make sure he put smiles on faces. Like Randall was one of those guys, if it's boring he'll give a DJ or put some jumping jacks up for the kids to go have fun and just to take their mind out of poverty. You feel me? Like Randall was one of the ones though. Like Rest in Peace Slim, you hear me? Rest in Peace. You know, we interviewed Boss here before. No, we're at the Big Homie. Big Homie. So tell me about your interactions with Boss. Tell me about how you think about him as a person. I just told Boss this yesterday, you hear me? For real? I said, Boss, that's my boy. Why you always worry about bitch-ass shit, bro? Why you always worry about bitch-ass shit? You gon' let a bitch-ass nigga get you worked up? Like man, you right, man. Oh, gee. For real though, Boss, you get him, bitch-ass nigga, too much real estate in your mind. That's real. But stop worrying about what they doing, man. Let them keep hating, man. He said, as long as you got the respect of the people you want to respect you, then you good, you feel me? You ain't worrying about no peons respecting you. It's the people who you admire. If they respect you, then you doing something right. Right. That's a fact. Wow. I just, I think about just the fact of, man, you seen all that coming up as a youth, man. You seen the whole movement, man. I'm jealous, man. Well, you right up in close-up, you too. You was young, but you seen it. Yeah, I said it was on fire. And see, they had to be on fire. You got cash money when they came on the scene, like how was it? And how did you, this three chain, like, you know what I mean? We talked a little bit about how you come up the three chain before anybody and did you, give me the history on this chain. Cause I done seen it. I believe Birdman had it on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So tell me about it. Like what's the history on it? The third was the mouth of me and the Magnolia and the Callio. You feel what I'm saying? Like every project got awarded, but our award got three projects and the three head projects is in our award. So, you know, I represent that whole third world. Cause I've been the Magnolia, the Callio, I've been on all the back streets and everything. So I went and got that three. And one night I've been on trial to stop and Birdman and Tanteeza coming up and he see that thing glistening. He's like, I like that, brother, I like that. Shit, about a month later, Birdman got a three and a 13, like twice the size of my shit. Man, what did you think when you seen it? You like, damn. I was like, man, why would you do me? You didn't. I wouldn't even know shit like that. Why would you do that to me? Man, come on, man. I got the streets on fire with this thing, right? That's hard though, and that's respect though. Look what you influence, man. Yeah, that's the fact, man. And you knew that he seen yours, you like, he got that thing, man. Yeah, for sure, for sure. I know for sure. Cause if I popped up with it, then he popped up with it, then a few other uptown out of that third world went to popping up with them. You heard me? Man, that's hard, man. At the end of the day, I already asked that because you got to think about it. Birdman had a lot of jewelry. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's the reason why I was thinking about it. Birdman is an uptown where Birdman is a stoner, and they be like, okay, that's why they be stunned at it. Is this the true thing? Man, that's the one that influenced me. You heard me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you hear this. You see that? He influenced me. For real? Yeah, I don't wear jewelry at all. So, it got to be stunned, it got to be stunned. Look, I tell him, I say, bro, you got to wear jewelry. Everywhere I face time, I'm in the morning, he got jewelry on. And he already said, I get it from you. I say, I don't wear it no more, right? She said, you go to jail, do time, you come on changing my life. I'm like, man, I spent 50,000 on the watch, man. I ain't buying all the chains no more, man. Man, you killing it though. But so, and that's a thing that, so that's a real deal. Like when Birdman, when I seen it, they like, man, everybody, somebody was like, man, everybody be stunned in uptown. That's how they do it, man. You picture Juven out at his height as a career, you go pull up in that Magnolia. Juven might not be in town. He going to have a yellow cars parked all in the Magnolia by the project. He got a- That's all. A Corvette out there, a Benz, a Beamer, a Jaguar, a Bentley. He just leave his cars in the project. That's what you call stun. That's what you're stun. You just leave your, like, every time somebody pass the Magnolia, you just see a million Nile in cars just parked right there. That's crazy. You get rockheads that go clean this car while he on the road. That is hard though. Kira's up. Okay, I got one more. Okay, damn. I'm already went through this, it's in my mind, she's trying to do it on my notes. GDP. Here? Yeah. Can they call him the spokesman of New Orleans? For sure. Some people say he is, some people say he isn't. For sure he the spokesman of New Orleans. Why is he so? Because he ain't, he report everything in New Orleans. Like, he go to bat fuzz. If he see somebody still in our culture, he put it on blast, you feel me? Like the situation with Jubilee, the situation even with Mobile Joe, because I seen Mobile Joe, you ever shot out of Mobile Joe? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He put light on that situation too. That's how I found out through the situation, through GDP, but GDP, he plug a lot of situations up in New Orleans and he do it without want anything just out of the love that he got for the culture. And he's educated on the culture. They ain't like he just speaking ignorant about the culture. He gonna put the facts behind it. Exactly. Hey, so what you think? Don't go all quiet on me. What you think? You got opinion? You been seeing this blogging and even talking about different things, do you agree? I ain't been saying, I ain't gonna lie. You gonna be watching? I'll be watching that on Keywood Street. You worried? What do you think about the bloggers and all of the stuff that's going on on the internet like it does? Do you even think about it? Well, I look at it, you know what I'm saying? But I don't really pay a whole lot of attention to it. You don't be tapped in? Yeah, I don't. Why do you know it? Because YouTube, you be like, the chiefs told me, I live in the real world. They don't know what the fuck I'm under. Yeah, man, I be zoned in what I'm doing, what I got, what I'm trying to do, you know what I'm saying? Because you can get stuck into looking at all that shit. Everybody's stuck, everybody's movement. But it helps educate too little on the move, like people gonna be doing it to you. Like the more you work, people gonna try to paint a picture of who you are and what you've done, your legacy, the things that you've accomplished. And I think that's needed for our people to see. That's where you become an OG for me, because you're now leading the way where you can show how people like yourself, man, people like Vaughn, y'all made moves and people can see it and learn from it. I think that's hard, bro. Oh yeah, man. You know what I mean? So that picture gotta be painted. Real tough, like I got a bank without giving a project every year for the kids, like for the basketball and the football team. And I live in Atlanta now. So one year I just popped up and just came there and to see that we got a prospect from our park that's number one, that's about to go. And when I walked, just to see the inspiration that I put it to him, are you like, Vaughn, Vaughn, I'm telling you, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'ma put on for the hood, like you dead, I'ma do this, I'ma do this. I'm like, that's what we supposed to do. Like, cause I'm the same one that influenced all my little cousins to be what I was. And they see me ride around with the guns and the jewelry and the calls and the females and they wanted that. And I didn't take time out to tell them what comes with that. Cause they just see a picture of what you doing, but they don't know cause you don't have that conversation cause you running. That's real. You chasing money 365, you know what I mean? So if somebody would have called home from jail all my old cousins and they were like, yo, I see you out there getting that money. But look, this could do the Rico, man, we ain't never know what the Rico would be. You feel me saying? So when I met Dited on the Rico, it's like, what is this? I don't know. I ain't doing nothing for a new enterprise. So I don't know. I want to go back to the film a little bit because I know you were in that movie before and then now you're writing. What inspired you to start writing and want to do your own thing? Seeing them stealing our culture. Coming to New Orleans taking our culture and I wanted a few ones that could put the whole culture together. Like, I can make a phone call. If the check big enough, I could call Birdman and make a play. If it's big enough, I could call Master P and make a play. I probably could call both of them and make the same play. But how hard is it to do so to start that film? I know you're putting up everything on this film, but to sit down and write it, to get it edited, to get the, you know, you know people, but how hard is it to do so? Writing, it wasn't hard cause I write music. And then I just called him out of the blue. Like, yo, what's up? Like, what's up? Like, you want to shoot a movie? So when you wrote the characters, you already had them in mind? No, I just called them. Like, I just knew, I don't know if I had them in mind, but I knew it was going to be somebody from where I'm from. So I'm like, yo, what should I shoot a movie? He ain't saying anything like, let's go. Is everybody in the movie from New Orleans? Yeah. No, I shot something in San Francisco too. Okay. So I got like some scenes in San Francisco. So I went and got some big talk in San Francisco. Cause that's my second home. What? Yeah, that's my second home, Bay Area. You love the Bay Area? I love the Bay Area. We've never been, I've been to San Diego, but I was thinking about San Francisco, but I'm like, they ain't got none out there. Yeah, they got none. You crazy. Like what? Not like San Diego though. You got to go to Oakland. No, no, no. It's California, Oakland. Shout out to E4. They shout out to be legit. Shout out sugar tea. You heard me. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Big Fine. Big, oh, really? Yeah. But I want to go, I want to go back in the Louisiana, BTY Young and man, like, just, you hear so much about him, you know, as far as he, you know, man, that was a great guy, you know, a lyricist, you know. Yeah, man, brother. Yeah, like, let's just tell me a little bit about him, how he even came about, just give me his history, his rundown. Young and, for me, Young and on, one of the homies, yeah, one of the homies took Young and to, I had a studio in my house with me, Mr. Marcelo and Curran said he used to record that. So one of my homies, he brought Young and through the house and Young and spit a verse. It was our beat I was working on. He was like, let me see that. And he one-taked and I was like, that's your beat. You heard me? And he had to be like 15, 14 or something. Like he was Young Young and he was like, he was Soda Slim Ren coordinated. Like when I heard him, he was like Soda Slim Ren coordinated. Everything was just real authentic rock. You feel me? Damn. And how long did, and like, you work with him that time, but do you keep working with him or does he move on away from that situation? Yeah. So at that point, I was just, I was in my rapping days. Like when I started, so we like we separated, but then Young and went to jail and everything. And he had like a little smoke with my project. Okay. So once he came home from jail, like I pulled them, you know, to the side and everything. And I went out of that my project just to see what the situation was. And my artist resting piece, Tokyo, he was like, it's good. You heard me? So I put him in Tokyo on the song, just so the hood can know. What was the name of that song? Upt. And that whole went hard. That's indeed. And so both of those guys passed away. Yeah. But both of those guys was detrimental to, you know, the youth. They were young. How was it when they passed away? Shit, both of them had to be, what, 20-something. Yeah, it was, yeah, it was young. Yeah, that was 20-something. I can't even tell you the age. But BTY Young, and I heard rumors that he was going to sign the cashmine and all kind of stuff. Yeah, so after I, you know, I got put Young and under my wing, I had to go do some time. So I got a brother that got a record label in Baton Rouge and he had interest in Young and everything too. So Young and was signed to my brother. Well, he wasn't even signed to my brother. It was just running the gutter. And my brother was doing a situation with cashmoney. So he swung Young and over there with cashmoney. Wow, so he didn't actually sign the deal? No, he was in the process of signing the deal. But he come home, you know what I'm saying? To get his business clear at home because he about to go back to Miami. He was planning Miami. Yeah, he could have gone to Miami. Yeah, and it was about to sign the deal with Black Balloon in Baton Rouge and it was going up there. And do the BBG cashmoney. What do you think cashmoney could have done with a BTYM? Oh, man, it was going to be on fire. How big could it have been? What sound would you think would have came from someone? The New Orleans sound, it was coming back. It was coming back, like for sure. Burr is still where he at and you know, shout out to Burr, like cashmoney ain't never falling off. I'm talking about they ain't never going to fall off. They reinvented themselves so many times, it's ridiculous. Nobody has done that, bro. But see that Young and was going to be that BG, that UNLV corps, he was going to be what that cashmoney was built on, that uptown street shit, you feel me? Wow, so how was it when you heard, and where would you at when you heard the BTY Young and had passed? Man, where was I? I don't think I was in town when Young and got killed. Somebody call you. Yeah, I got the call. You was in Cali too? So, and I'm going to ask you about BTY Young and his will, like, how did he, how did you see him as an artist and just being from New Orleans? He a beast, I've been on him, you know what I'm saying? I met him around town when he got out of jail. So, I was signed to a label from downtown actually and I was at the studio and my people brought him over and we was Young. And then, shit, I say like 20, I was like 21. Yeah, I was Young, ooh, y'all were going to have something up. Yeah, so we, so when I heard, I'm like, oh, home of beasts. And we clicked, like we had a lot of shit in console. We just clicked, but as an artist, like he had to sit it, like everybody loved him. Like he was a dog with that rapping, you know what I'm saying? And everything he talking about, like he was the new slim. Like everybody was on him, like he was on his way. Like I was up when I was up there with Pete. He had called, he like, man, tell Pete I won't fuck with him. You know what I'm saying? He's on it, whatever movement, I'm waiting. Yeah, like, man, tell Pete Cup, give it. Yeah, for sure. So, he just, I'm so New Orleans. I'm so, this what I'm doing, dedicated law to the labels that came from here, I'm rocking with him no matter what. Right, yeah, yeah. Like I get Young in that formula though, like that was a talk, I was like, young gang, if it ain't no beef, go smoke him on a song. If it ain't no blood being shared, go smoke him on a song. And Young can hit everything in the city. He went jumped on everybody's song in the city and he laid it down. You remember like, if you had a buzz in the city, he was giving you a verse and he was coming on your shit to him. I think that's hard, man. I love the story, bro. Like I say, I hear so much about him. And I just, you know, he died at such a young age. And, but he had so much of a impact and influence when it come down to his movement and the people that he affected. He affected a lot of people in a short amount of time, bro. That's the, you know, it's something real when you see it like that. Facts. So tell me, what would it take to make New Orleans great again? Oh, we great, baby. We great. We ain't losing that touch. We know all. We ain't losing that touch. She got there from Trump, y'all. Make America great again. I know where they came from. No. I heard it. Y'all heard that before. Yes, yes. No, because when people, when I hear stories about New Orleans and how New Orleans used to be and stuff like that, compared to they said, you know, after Katrina, it has a lot more, you know, building up and stuff to do. Right. So that's what I'm trying to figure out. Like, when will New Orleans be, like, what it used to be? Yeah, it would never be, it would never be what it used to be. You don't think so? No, it would never be. It would never go back to before COVID. Like, yeah, it seems normal, but shit, COVID it took two years out of our life, man. It took a lot. It ain't gonna say it's like Katrina happened. Yeah, that's what she was saying. Like for sure, it ain't shaking back after Katrina, because it spread to the city. So that culture went all over the world, but in the city also. So, you know, you took everybody from uptown and then you spread them all out. So ain't nobody got their blocks. Like in our area, you know, you got your park, you got your stove, you got everything in your neighborhood where you don't have to leave out your neighborhood, you feel me? So now that you put people in so many other neighborhoods and that just left the murder rate up higher. Wow, man. But that's crazy, because. Go ahead. Naka, when you think about, you know, you said it's got spread out, but when we go to New Orleans, you see, we just hear all of the accents that everybody is still there. But you all know it different, as in like you said, the projects, you know, everybody's normally be over here. This people be over here and stuff like that. But visitors coming in, they still love the culture cause they can still get that feel. Right, seeing what they've been seeing. They ain't, that ain't been touched. Right. In downtown, Bourbon, you, that's what you tell when they come in the tours, they coming and see that. They ain't coming in the hood. They ain't coming. You know, they probably coming to some places they known for food or something like, but they ain't just chilling. They don't see the real. Do y'all ever go to that Bourbon Street? Yeah, I still be out there. You know, I build tours in my own city. Nah, that's his thing right there. I wanna ask you about, is it Black Ink? Yeah. I wanna ask you about your participation in that. Like, how was it? How did you even get linked with that whole situation? I honestly, the crazy part, like, this when I come back from LA, I had my brother, he come in town. He was in Houston. So he come in town. Like I wasn't tattooing, I stopped tattooing cause I was up there with Pete. I was up there for like five years. And I come back and I'm doing other stuff. So I got my other stuff going on. So my brother came in town. I'm like, look, you have my shot. Like go tattoo. And he start hashtagging, you know, hashtagging Black Tattoo, New Orleans Tattoo, whatever. And somebody from Kaston called him, right? So they hit him up like, look, we coming in, we about to start the new Black Ink. We gonna do the New Orleans. We looking for artists, you know, such and such. We're from Black Ink. So he come to me, see like, look, bro, this Black Ink on the phone. I think you should talk to him. I told him, I ain't ready, but I wanna introduce him to you. So I get on the phone with him and I'm telling him who I was. And they like, wait, you such a touch issue. You was with P. Oh, we've been looking for you. We've been hearing about you. Cause we've been asking all the people who like urban tattoo artists from New Orleans. So everybody kept telling them about me. So they're like, yeah, you know, we won't link up with you. So I talked to him for like, like two months before filming and all that, before anything was going on. And we were just keeping in contact, telling me about the show and all that. And I'm just telling them what I'm trying to accomplish. And you know what I'm saying, on the show for the show, for me to agree to do it. And, you know, I did the show. It was cool. It was certain things I ain't really careful. And, you know, I had, I made him give me a walk away contract. Walk away contract, explain. So I didn't have no ties. Like they, they, they, they'll want to lock you in for that at least 10 years for the show. And I come from contracts. I come from doing movies. I was signed. I was so, I'm like, nah, I'm good on that. Like I'm reading my contract and I'm not, I'm not with this. 10 years? 10 years. They want to, and they want to, everything you put out, they want to sum from it. So it's like, it was complicated. It was like, bro, look, y'all ain't making it. I already got stuff going on. I already got, I'm doing shit already. So y'all not about to take no money from that. So we really got to sit down and break this contract down. So they try to give me the contract to debut full. Cause when I go and play, they think I'm younger than what I am. And I'm quiet. Cause I were observing what's going on to see if you're trying to play me. And, you know, that was one of the moves. So I called him like, look, I'm good. So I turned him down like five times. And then they finally, it had Caesar hit me up. I met with him. He like, look, though, like I'm a, you know, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a director on here. And like whatever you want. Like I got you. Like I ain't gonna make sure nothing crazy going on. I'm like, I bet, but I want to walk away and contract until I see a few episodes and see how this going. Then I revisit that. But, you know, there was a lot of just stuff going on and the show didn't really last. So I was able to walk away. Big Red Records. Walk away without no attachment. No attachments. Cause we had somebody else who was on Black Ink that we interviewed. No, that was a girl. I told him about that girl. I can't remember her name, but man, she was, it wasn't on Black Ink. She was dealing with white folks. Yeah. She was not dealing with, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It was a white ink. 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. I gotta ask you about Mack, man. We guys talk about Mack. I can't come over here and not talk about Mack. Yeah, that's the home. Like Mack is a, we interviewed Mack and Mack was so humble and just a good dude. You know what I'm saying? And, and you know, the one thing I can see about him is he talked about, you know, just, you know, coming up so early, you know, with Gregory D and all those different with Man and Fresh. And then ending up, you know what I mean? Having to just boom, get taken away like that. But I mean, but to be a guy who everybody say didn't do it. Right. And then to go through what he went through and still be a stern and as player and as, you know, humble as he is, I think that's live, man. Cause I really think, you know, me, I'm a different level. I think, you know, the true gangster is taking care of your family and kids. I'm a big deal. Right, right, right. All that other stuff is something different for him. But to see him reunite with his family and come back. You ain't through a lot, man. I'm a little bit of all this nines, man. You know what I'm saying? I tell Mac this every time from a young nigga that was in them streets and I heard Cash Money and No Limit and they had me out my mind on some gangster shit. But Mac gave you a conscience. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. He taught you through his music. You feel me? And Mac said that. Mac said he like, he a lyricist. He like lyrics, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's the fact. And I think that's something that details who he is and gives him a standoffish way of being not like everybody else. That's why I was honored to get his 25 year anniversary for Shell Shop. We got that coming up on July 20, 30, but that's hard. I'm honored to do that for the home. And I'm like, bro, let me give you a 25th anniversary. Yeah, I love it. He was like, let's do it. You feel me? He ain't like to say, he like him too. They don't ask no questions, you hear me? I'd be glad they don't hit me with a contract. I would get mad if they don't hit me with a contract. They be like, let's do it. I'd be like, bro, it's all love. You call me. I'm just about to start a movie. I say, look, my birthday and everything. I say, fuck it. Come on, let's do it. That's hard, man. That's just, that's loyalty. That's different. It's different, man. Man, so, I mean, you really, like, when you think about just what new Orleans represent to the culture, man, I gotta say thank y'all, man. I always interview a lot of new Orleans people, man. I rock with y'all, man. Ever since I did this podcast, I already am from right by New Orleans, I'm not New Orleans, but Louisiana. I know y'all think it's different, you know? That's different on you niggas, man. It's his own place. It has parishes and all. It's his own spot. Yeah, yeah. It's different. What do you think about KLC? Well, I gotta throw his name up. Oh, the drum music. What do you think about KLC, man? To come down to the sound and the way he even looks. Yeah, he got that original New Orleans sound. He one of the pioneers of that sound. Yeah, yeah. One of the pioneers of that sound. So many friends came with that bounce, man. Yeah, he is the pioneer of the sound. Listen, man. He is the son of New Orleans. Oh, that is, y'all, that is stupid, y'all. You can't put that nigga by a little bit. Special old man and fresh. You know what, man? That educated me so much, man. Yeah, you should go see it. To show you how bounce music started, fresh. I didn't know fresh started it. I knew he was a part of the beginning. I didn't know he started it. And that's a bad man to take that and that's our sound, man. What did you, when you first discovered his music and his beats, where were you at and what did you think about the movement and what was the biggest impact of his music? Man, New Orleans music was, you didn't listen to nothing else. Like you listen to NWA, New Orleans music. Cause our music scene was on smash. Like the world know the hot boys. But see UNLV were man and fresh. Man, that was something different. That's where BG coming in the game enters as if he's a kid coming under UNLV. You feel me? Like, man. That was hard. Man, that was the landscape of New Orleans. You talking about from that third one. You the thought man and fresh was from the third one. How you a cat from downtown around all them uptown niggas? And you give them the sound that is uptown but he from downtown. Man, I remember all them songs Lil Wayne did, man. That shit was crazy, man. That boy were hell in it, man. He were hell in them, man. That ain't nothing like that, bro. One person, all them albums? Ain't nothing like that, bro. Every album sounded different. Like, Juvie album didn't sound like a BG album. It didn't sound like a Lil Wayne album. Right. You feel me? So he really did his dog. There was one that guy that was running. That was crazy. I had a question. So how important is Peach's records to the culture? That's a staple. Oh, yeah. To hear every rapper say they gotta stay start at Peach's. Like, Mia was working at Peach's. Mack coming from Peach's. BG was there? BG, like, everybody coming in. That was a staple in New Orleans. And it's still there now? Yeah, for sure, for sure. Man, I love you, Mr. Ronnie. Mr. Ronnie, you interviewed her? Hold here? No, I ain't seen her. We interviewed her. I know what you're saying. We were in her shop. I ain't playing no games. You're cutting up, man. You're cutting up, man. We're going to give you the key to the city. I just so love, man, because I love the whole culture. And I just don't think people give us all I just do. We got to take it by force. We got to make people understand that the South ain't playing no games. And we already done it through the music. Now we got to do it through the sources of media to make them understand we're going to make y'all see what we're doing. And you're doing a great job with that. I'm trying my damn hardest. You're doing a great job given that perspective of what it is with this culture. Meaning, like you say, you and GD, y'all be speaking facts. Y'all don't just speak feelings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of feelings ain't logic. Like, you feeling that way, but that ain't logic. No, right, right. Like, LeWayne ain't the best. Fuck y'all gonna say LeWayne ain't the best when every rapper out here is a little Wayne. Just like him. Like, they gotta stop playing with us. Like, we ain't set the tone. You feel me? Like, I just saw the homie, Pauley saying the franchise boys started white tees. Like, what? Are you serious? Come on, man. We been tees, bows, and rees since it started. For real. Y'all boys, them jebos, y'all. I'm just about to ask about them jebos. I made so much money messing with y'all in the jebos, man. So what you think about it? What you think started the white tees shirt? What you think started the white t-shirts? Anything we forget, guys, we gotta make sure we get everything. Oh, man. You got sacrifices coming. Yeah, he mentioned that. We got the Shimmer second season sacrifice coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He mentioned that, yeah, he mentioned our BT. Yeah, we got the All In Clothing coming out. Okay. You didn't say that. We got some new design. We got some new stuff. Where can they find the clothing line? You could go on AllIn.com. AllIn.com. Is it AllIn.com? No, no, it's HB. It's AllIn by HB. Okay. Okay, okay. Wow. Man, how can people get a hold of you guys they trying to link up with you, man? Vaughn, you first. I'm Hustle underscore Vaughn. No, I think I'm back Caliowa. I'm back now, I'm back Caliowa. Oh, Instagram or everything. They brought me back out, man. I took like a year off of social media. I ain't gonna deal with nothing. Glad he said that. You let me back out. I'm glad he back out. I had to come outside. Man. Get me outside. Ace, what's up with you? How can people get a hold of your line? Ace B-4 to 7, Ace C-E, B-4, 7 on all platforms. That's big, that's big. The biggest thing that I keep hearing about Caliowa, right? Not hearing about Caliowa, but when I look up Caliowa, I'm trying to spell Caliowa C-A-L-L-I-O, but that's not really how it's spelled. Why, where did that name originate from? Yeah, it's like Caliope, but it's Caliowa. I don't know, you know New Orleans, we take any word in there. It's really the- The Caliowa. B-W Cooper. Yeah, the B-W Cooper. How's it developed? I don't even know where the Caliowa come from, or where it come from. Yeah, it's like, is it French? Is it this? It is French, it's a flower. It's a flower, that's what it is. Caliope is a flower, like all of Magnolia. Right, it's a flower. Oh, that's a fact. Okay, but it don't call it Caliope? No, it's Caliope. It's Caliope. We ain't hear that, I ain't hear Caliope in the right pronunciation to a GPS zoom. It was like, turn on Caliope Street, I'm like, what the hell is Caliope Street? I'm like, Caliope. I'm like, that's crazy. Yeah, I gotta ask one more question. I can't let y'all get out of here without asking about. I asked y'all this and you can answer, you can just say I'll pass on that question. Is Seymour the innocent? Yes. Yeah. Yes. What make you say that? I was there. You were there that night? I was there. Okay, being there, cause we have, all people say that it was there. West Bank. But they didn't see what happened so they don't know. Yeah, he innocent, man. Freedom Homacy murder, man. They did them bad over there. See, that, you don't play on that. You don't play. Parish, you don't play. Across the river. That's why I got indicted at it. And that parish, you don't play. You going to jail. So they were trying to make an example. They were just making an example of it. Yeah, for sure. It made mad at them. For sure, for sure. He's innocent, man. That's period. We don't play with Jefferson Parish. To this day. To this day. Yeah, when you land in New Orleans, that's not New Orleans. That's Jefferson Parish. You got to get out of there. West Bank, Jefferson Parish. We surrounded by Jefferson Parish, New Orleans, a little. Wow. I didn't even know everything outside. They talked about how corrupted it is. I never flew in the New Orleans. No, well, you flew to the airport, but that's Jefferson, that's Jefferson. That's Metairie, Louisiana. I've heard of Metairie. Yeah, that's where you come in there. But it's small, like you get on a bridge and they knew it was New Orleans like with 15 minutes trying to catch you. I just want to ask y'all that question. I think I got everything, man, to be real with you guys, man. Want to sit down with y'all again. Anytime you got movies, projects. Anytime y'all got some y'all trying to push. Man, call me up, man. Let's do it. Let's get it popping, man. We ain't got this platform for nothing. It's for our people to get the word out on new projects, stuff we doing. That's what it's all about. Love you guys, man. Thank you for coming. I appreciate you. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. You guys ever need me? I pull up. You like it. Come on. Come on, let me get you a party. What do you do? It ain't nothing. I need you to do the podcast scene. Yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Stop playing. I can be a director. We got the cameraman already been filming you. Yeah, you man. You might need you to sign that. You might just drop that open now, man. We might need that. I got you, man. Hey, man, listen, man. God, make sure you like and subscribe to our channel, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment. A boss talk 101. What a boss is told. And we out.