 Hey guys, I want to do insert this little clip before you watch the interview with Joe Mechler aka Joey boom There was a technical issue where the only video that got recorded was on Joe's end So my video for some other reason something happened with zoom. I don't usually use zoom. I use a thing called Zencaster But it just recorded Joe's video, which it's you know, what it is what it is He has a great room, which you'll see But in the future this shouldn't happen again I think I figured it out if I use zoom again, but you're probably noticing that I've I've finished the drywall behind me up Where I record the podcast and I finished painting it earlier right before I just did an interview with Don Lombardi of DW drums Which will be out in the next couple weeks but yeah, so No, hopefully there's no more technical issues in the future But enjoy this episode with Joe Mechler about the Delaware drum show. Hello and welcome to the drum history podcast today I am honored to be joined by my old friend Joe Mechler aka Joey boom Joey welcome back on the show Bart it's always such a pleasure to be with you man And as I said to you earlier, I'm so proud of your progress here with drum history podcast It's just wonderful and Congratulations on it and thank you for providing such a great reference for drummers across the globe. It's wonderful Well, thank you. I appreciate that especially coming from a guy like you and Some people may know this I've talked about it a fair amount You were I believe the first interview that I did at all like I think it I think Kelly's episode was number one because I thought this is a good broad Episode to get people hooked and then you were number two with the world war two drummers, which I Mean come on. I mean to this day. It is my one of my favorite episodes just because it was so Interesting and deep and I you got me addicted to that world war two era Because it's come up in a lot of episodes about oh Rogers. Okay. They were making this during wartime. It's it's like an endless There's a lot of stuff that comes out. So Yeah, you were you were an early one on the show very much appreciated and it was a pleasure to be able to Share my passion with you with someone who is passionate about Sharing others passionate drum information and I really appreciated it to assist to get the word out and To just man take it into which we are the 21st century So it was wonderful and I was honored to do it and knew that Man, it was gonna be something that was really gonna Carry on and wow you I mean how long have you been doing this now? Since October we recorded in April 2018 and then it released October 2018. So That's fabulous. Yeah quite a quite a long time, but it's wonderful and we actually got a chance to meet I believe a few times, but but really at the at the Chicago show checking out your booth and all that stuff Indeed, but so we're here to talk about I'm sure a bunch of different stuff But primarily your Delaware drum show which I have a shirt and I love it I am so geeking out about the drum show. I cannot tell you. Yeah, it it as Vincent Ward has said on different episodes that it's it's just his absolute favorite show That's wonderful. I've yet. I haven't been able to go and man this year. I don't know if I can make it My wife is pregnant. I got a two. Congratulations. Thank you. And it's just chaos and you Will I will talk more details, but so Joe Why don't you tell folks about the show and then maybe we can kind of segue into the history of it and And I'll let you just take it away with that Okay, sure. Well at first things first is which I always promote is one of the things for everyone that Listening watching this podcast that even after you can always visit Delaware drum calm I worked very hard in putting together the website to supply any and all information not only about what's happening currently with This year's show but as well as past shows and if you have any questions in extreme detail Delaware drum calm man, and that will give you anything that you would need to know about anything about the show Yeah, I have to say that When I got into this, oh Man, you know years ago I Attended the original my first drum show as a vendor if you will Was the original Delaware drum show that was run by a fellow named Joe gill day And I did about two or three of those shows and it got me to the point to meet You know some other people and find out about this drum show vintage drum custom drum hobby and situation and It's where I decided to narrow into the niche of the World War two era because I started to realize wow I you see it here. You see it there, but you don't see it all in one spot so it it Inspired me to go in that direction and make that happen then It was like well Joe is no longer doing the show He's moving to Florida as he did with his wife, but apparently underlying there was A medical issue there and Joe moved to Florida and unfortunately like four months later He passed away from ALS. Wow. So the the the Delaware drum show was in Limbo at this point and people are like who's gonna do it who's gonna do who's gonna do it and it took me a little longer to build up My knowledge my collection. I then attended the big gun show at the Chicago show You know as a newbie and I was scared man running with the big dogs, but was able to establish then myself and to be able to meet the most important heaviest vendors of vintage custom and new drum symbols and accessories across the east coast To where then I Approached a buddy of mine locally my Juliano who is the creator of J drums his own custom line and owns a drum shop here and Said I'm thinking about taking over the Delaware drum show with his help We were able to establish the first one and I then reached out to these vendors and said hey man I'm thinking about Taking over the Delaware drum show and producing it and because I was able to have established to myself People which to this day I am so so grateful for these people as far as which I'll talk about a bit more detail later But from Maine Rochester Western Pennsylvania New York New Jersey Western West Virginia Nashville we're like we're in The very first show who was at the Elks in Wilmington and I have to tell you like years before in my teaching career walking up to a building for the first time thinking Am I gonna be here for a long time? I have no idea what's gonna happen and I am terrified and within I have to say The first hour and a half I had people coming to me complaining going I couldn't find a place to My GPS took me down the street I have to say that I looked at them going oh dude. I'm so sorry, but inside I was like yes So we literally I knew within two hours. We had already outgrown that venue. Oh, yeah So I went on search then for another venue We hit a couple of places one place was like a wedding catering joint the fellow did not know how to book it He was like how many people are coming. I'm like, I don't know this and he said hey Do you know about the North Shrine Hall in Newcastle? And I was like though the huh the who the what? So long story short we were able that day to go to the North Shrine as soon as I walked in that room. I Felt the vibe and said this is it. This is the place and it's the perfect venue It's a big giant main room with a big giant stage where the huge consignment area is There's a side room down the hall where the clinics are held. They have a Bar that's on site. They have great food and kitchen that to serve there and the place is It's a little battle born But that's where everyone was like we love the vibe of this place man That's where I thought Man, this is you know and people are like no we love it and it's just a wonderful hang for like-minded people who are passionate about stuff that you it regardless of what it is and That's the word about it is that it's it's just a great hang which is really what it's all about it's not about any glitz or glamour and You know of the facility and this big giant. It's having an area where people are Nothing religious nothing race not age not playing ability Any kind of affiliation other than we all have a like passion for that day and everything else stays outside and man not only is it The the ability to have that area To create a t-shirt to hunt down and solidify the vendors to get Excellent clinicians that may not be big splashy big names, but these people are passionate They're dedicated. They are great communicators. They have great online presence and when Attendees leave those clinics, they're going to walk out more inspired and more educated than they did when they walked in That's what's paramount to me about having great clinicians From what i've seen is you you do have people like brooks teggler and daniel glass and these guys who are I don't want to say you're a history focused drum show, but um You do have a bit of that like uh, like it's it's all about that that that looking back and studying this stuff Where so is the chicago show and other ones, but you almost seem more specialized and uh a little more Niche and and I do think talking about the venue. It's really good that you do Pay attention to people who are saying like joe. We like this place. This is good um as opposed to just what's better for the bottom, you know bottom dollar and and What works better for you? It's it's about people enjoying it. So it's cool that you You're a man of the people, you know And it's well, it's that's what drum shows are where I usually give the same I don't want to say soupy because it's really heartfelt that You know, I say at the beginning of the clinics I can Provide these the venue I can have a cool T-shirt I can be able to have people graciously donate which we'll talk about as well Door prizes raffle prizes. I can invite the best clinicians the meet and greet celebrities I mean, you know Liberty DeVito Bernard Purdy Brooks Daniel Glass david who's sickening But if no one attends the show It's a failure and just because you know, I'm joey bullman. I produce the show. It's not my show It's our show. We all are responsible for the success of it and to be So grateful to have people say, yeah, I'm gonna go do this. I'm gonna support this and then enjoy it It's everything man. It's just it's the whole idea. It really is. So it's our show. It's not. Oh, look at this place People are like, well, what happens if you outgrow this place? I said, I'll go to a second day You know, that would be amazing. I'm not leaving this place, man I'm not because why destroy the mojo I mean, that's what vintage drums are about which leads up to the custom and new drums symbols and accessories It's all leads. It's all together and it's it's a wonderful thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome Uh, why don't we while we're you know talking about it Early on tell people the date and I believe you kind of said the location but let's tell them where and when So they know while we're listening to this. Uh, it's it's coming up in february, right? Yes, thank you for reminding me It is the uh, 27th of february this month and it is at what's known as the nor and you are shrine hall That's 198 south dupont highway in uh, new castle delaware and again Delaware drum com for all of these details to know every single thing you need to know about the show Yeah, now, um, and I know Every drum show, you know promoter and and Person who runs it has to deal with this now Uh, you've had to deal with some mandate stuff. You want to just get that out of the way and tell people Yes that I I certainly will and of course as it is everywhere When I did the mandate post Wow, it it is very much a hot button item and I'm not here today to use this as a platform for My personal beliefs. I'm here today to say in the times that we are in To try and accommodate the most people that I can I have to keep public safety in mind the Delaware mandates are definitely masked indoors which will happen The entrance mandates are Proof of double vax and booster or a 72 hour Proof of negativity even if it's a home test I'm not asking you to be vaccinated. I'm not asking anybody to go against their beliefs I'm giving them the opportunity to go just get a home test You show up with 72 hours negative Come on in if your beliefs are what they are I welcome that just show us that your negative Wear a mask indoors as much as it's going to be required within the environment that you're in And do not miss this event. Yeah, and I mean, that's it in a nutshell part I can't make it any simpler than that. Yeah, I don't think it's uh a political thing You're literally following the state guidelines and when I was at PASIC this year I mean it was very much like you I had to show proof of vaccination You had to walk you had to wear a mask the whole time Which sometimes you go to places and it's like mask required and no one has one I'll tell you at PASIC It was very much a every single person had a mask on the whole time So I think that that can that tone can be set where if everyone's on the same page of like listen I don't care what you believe like you said It's just something you got to do then get over it and move on. Um, yeah, so I'm sure you've gotten a lot of emails, but uh, I think you're my god, Bart You're doing right. I can tell you when I posted that and and again, I'm not going to get deep into it but boy when I When I made that post boy for three hours. I was Under some serious attack and to say, you know, emotionally that it didn't rock me because, you know, I pride myself as being, um As a top-notch restoration and custom vintage creation artists and the Delaware drum show to have any negativity Heaped upon it publicly. Wow. It kind of rocked me. However Two things was wonderful that came from it is I know that from a marketing standpoint when I post stuff People are reading it And and that, you know, people were passionate about the drum show to spark that much Emotion about the conflict between their beliefs and what they want to do. So Once I I realized that I said, okay, you know, this is a good thing And look, I was damned if I did or not and the lesser of the two was going to be the way that I was going So, you know what man, you know, I'm here to run a drum show I'm not here to be political or draconian or any of that man It's just do that little bit and god enjoy it and if perhaps you cannot Just do it man. I'll see you next year. Yes. It's that simple You're doing the best that you can and um It is what it is. Um So let's talk going down our list here of kind of talking points admission And then we'll get into door prizes and raffles and stuff. Wonderful. If you got a drum show, you got to have Oh, yeah, man, and raffles. So what's the deal with that? Well, the admission this year is 15 dollars I'm also going to do my best to have um tapped and card pay, you know with a register So this way uh attendees, let's say they're coming to the show and they've got maybe 400 bucks cash instead of going through admissions t-shirts raffles and leaving 50 at the door If they can kind of in their mind justify well, if I drop this on the card I can hit the floor with 50 cash and ultimately give it to the vendors So, uh, you know again being the people minded, uh, instead of it just going how much money can I get from these people? It's like well, how much money can I get to the vendors who some of these people have traveled man hotels ghastles? You know, they're putting it on the line. So 15 bucks admission the t-shirts are 15 The raffles are like three for five and 10 of which, you know, I've got some items to show. Um In uh detail if you like I can kind of just segue right into that Yeah, I think that would be great and and I want to say that uh and while you're kind of getting stuff together I would say that at the people should buy raffle tickets at the chicago show And at the music city drum show Just by pure luck. I won uh snare drums the grand prize the last two shows i've been to so People can rest easy that I will not be at this show to win The grand prize, but I have him behind me. I want to wfl three snare and then a love custom drums, uh snare as well Fabulous just by buying a ticket. So buy your tickets. I'm telling you. Yes. There's nothing to lose. It's so fun Well, here. Well, let me just give you an example. Yeah, uh first off If I could talk a little bit about um, you know This which is the t-shirt that is the Delaware drum show logo that I created years ago And as you can see it's a combination of honoring modern drums with the modern leg But yet the vintage shield And bars from vintage drums and then it creates a d and the letters that are inside are jg And I did that uh as an honor to joe gilday Who was the originator and the guys who were in the know that you know, they looked at it and they were like Wow, man. Well done. I went well, of course So then um as years went on which this will be the fifth show of course within six years because I had to miss Last year or I chose I chose to not have it last year. Sure Unfortunately at that point, um neil pert had passed away and I thought Wow, man. Why don't I try to do a tribute shirt to neil of which then I and I'll get into later about the clinicians I then hopefully you can see this. I then altered the design And made it np and 2112 that was last show's t-shirt. So then this year Unfortunately as we know charlie watts our beloved charlie. Yep had uh passed away So this year's t-shirt is going to be dedicated to charlie. It's going to be very similar to that The shield excuse me the shield will be cw and then I contacted don mccauley who is a noted performer collector and his Um, uh, main position is as you probably know is he is the drum tech for the rolling stones And has had a very close Relationship with charlie over the years. So I asked him I said I'd like to do a tribute t-shirt to charlie. What would be something I could put on it that would be a bit more Personal and inside instead of just painted black weight on a friend etc etc And he said well mcc always referred to him as the wembley whammer because he's from wembley So I chose to then make it the same The same logo. Yep. It'll be cw and here we'll say the wembley whammer full full front. Awesome. So, um, one of the Awesome things that just recently had happened was is that don got back to me? And he said he said hey, um I let the family know charlie's family and I sent them a picture of the the shirt logo And they are requesting three large and one medium for the granddaughter. I went. Oh, yes I said, can can you please please? When they get the shirts get them to take a picture of them wearing it and You know bart. That's what it's all about right there. Man. So you've made it on the inside. I mean seriously that is, um There's nothing cooler than that I know guys who've written books where they can get them in the hands of other, you know They're they're idols and it's just like that's what it's all about Yeah, indeed indeed cool So also, uh, okay, as you said then, um, so the t-shirts those trippy t-shirts will be $15 We also have past shirts like this generic that'll be 10 And then the white ones are five come and get that we can give you a deal That's a good deal even $15 For a shirt nowadays Uh, is is a good deal. So it's not it's good. You're not charging 50 or like I was at the last Yeah, the Rolling Stones show in may or november. I mean and and It was it's the stones, but it's a $50 t-shirt Wow Yeah, but you have to buy it Yeah, of course and it's the This is a one-off. This is it. So it's the delaware show It's all connected and I've decided that each year now because of the success of the shirt, you know I'm always trying each year to upgrade the show and make things a little better and read What is going to just continue to make the show evolve and grow? It's really important. So it's just not somewhat stagnant, you know Yeah, sure. Um, so some of the other uh raffle items. I also decided to spread it around to some of the local drum shops where you know, they're a lot of the vendors some of these young guys are Making the commitment Bart. They're making the effort to either rent own buildings spaces and offer drum shop Workings of new vintage custom stuff for man people to walk in and and Offer them things for them to buy. I mean, it's I am so proud and impressed by these Young men taking the the step to do this So I figured let me try to help them additionally with advertisement to the show and get them to Be a part of the door price raffle situation So one of the fellows who I was just at yesterday and willow grove Is pete says nyak of pocket percussion He offered this beautiful coffee mug. And of course you may be saying Geez a coffee mug. Whoo. Whoo. I love well Well, he put on top of it a $50 gift card to His shop in willow grove. Yeah, so if you get this and of course if let's say you live down in Delaware It could be online, etc So that in in addition To this Amazing metal DW snare drum, it's you know late 90s early 2000s It's full brass this thing has amazing weight to it This you could own this For $5 ticket three for ten It's insane. Yeah, and someone's got to win it I mean really you oh At man 3 30 the drawing star and somebody walks out for $5 10 Even if they buy multiple tickets 20 bucks, let's say they walk out with that drum unbelievable another person that I believe in wholeheartedly is years ago I came in contact being here in new jersey with this drumstick company um Which a lot of people don't know about is cappella I don't know if you can read that there and once I had these sticks in my hand. I went. Oh my god I'm home. Well cappella years years ago went out of business and I've been chasing that feeling ever since And I have to say that I have rediscovered it Um, hopefully you can see that I've rediscovered it with la backbeat sticks frank kinsle in louisiana He's the sweetest guy you could ever meet He is passionate and dedicated about making quality drumsticks And man goes through the trials and tribulations of the lathe breaking down and and defective product of wood But man his drumsticks. I cannot endorse enough. I mean here's mine You know that are all beat up from use. I seriously use these sticks He has graciously donated drumsticks to be door prizes. That's awesome. Frank's a super nice guy I've met him at the shows and um, and I've played his sticks and They're the real deal No kidding man. No kidding. He's he's the bomb and at the last show when I opened up the box He literally printed on the sticks Delaware drum show and then had an additional pair with joey boom on the back You know It's like going the extra mile man. He didn't have to do that He could have just grabbed the bundle of b sticks packaged them and shot them out But no, he he he went the extra mile. So that's awesome. You know, um The other is a keith larson at baltimore drum, you know, spreading it around spreading it around He is donating a uh brand new. It's called four play acrylic snare drum 14 by five Brand new beautiful. You you could own it for five bucks Uh, also hudson music is going to be at the show rob wallis is the president of hudson music Which was formerly dci video If there is a famous drummer that you know of this man has videoed them and has created Like the series he created with neil alone was insane That early early steve gad video where he's doing brushes on the cardboard box The guy holding the cardboard box is rob wallis. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, he's holding it for like five minutes Oh, it's it's amazing. Yeah, and rob and I have become very good friends. I am his vintage restoration person He's going to be at the show um, he has graciously donated a signed poster Of gadiments that is signed by steve gad. That's going to be one of the door prizes insane Door prize kids door prize That's awesome and move moving on also to um the um Raffles is uh, my buddy mike juliano at j drums who has been supplying the door prizes And raffles for years. He is supplying a um And it's again, it's on the website You can click on it and and look at door prize raffles to really see this stuff in detail It's a maple snare drum that he's created with the drum show logo Right on the shell that's going to be available as a door prize. And then this also j drums not only snare drum Full maple but snare 1316 And 22 by 18 bass drum for 20 bucks. You get a 20 buck raffle ticket. You walk out with this drum kid It's insane. Oh man. That's a that's a that's a big boy right there that snare man And it's just deep and beautiful and he does quality quality work man. And again, he's one of those local guys That is just killing it man creating his own stuff. Yeah So man, I mean and you are you're faced with all of that and you haven't even hit the room yet So that's one of the I mean I've seen a lot most of the drum shows have great raffles Which it's almost an essential thing to do but you don't see that many Like snare drums and a drum kit. I mean you've got a pretty uh, there's a lot to win So it's worth it's worth buying that five dollar ticket for sure Indeed and I have to tell you it's wonderful to have Like one of the vendors just recently is going to be trinity symbols and they said hey, you know, we'd like to Kind of donate something for the door prizes So there could potentially be door prize items that I haven't even said because they haven't even arrived yet And you know, a lot of times people they get on board and say man, I'd like to you know, I'd like to donate this donate that so I mean, you won't even know until you get to the show. I don't even know fully what's going to be there yet So you just you just got to get there and just dig on it man. That's awesome. Very cool Um, all right. What about uh consignment? I know. Okay, that's that's a lot of I mean It's it's you're primarily having vintage gear and stuff. So yeah, how does the consignment work? Well, I have to say um the consignment uh over the last several shows has been uh shockingly successful And what that is is it gives people the ability If they have gear that they're like man, I need to get rid of this I need to sell it whether it's a snare drum a cymbal a drum kit or all of the above Instead of being a vendor for a booth space of you know, 150 dollars They can for a single cymbal a single snare drum five dollars each a drum set is 20 bucks What they do is they uh go to the front door pay their admission of 15 to get in Of course, they'll have to show their mandates situation They then come around the side bring in their gear. They register and sign in a consignment They pay for their items, which is basically a full day of advertisement It then gets brought up to the huge stage and when I say huge, I mean the stage is huge It's the full width of the room which is like 60 foot and it's like 24 foot deep And I have to say that it gets packed. I couldn't believe how much consignment gear comes in the door And what's kind of wonderful about it is a lot of the vendors themselves who are Traveling far the vintage guys. They're there to buy And I've seen stuff come in get registered get up to the stage These guys flock to them. What do you have? And a lot of times it doesn't even make it up to the stage They're buying it right there And it's uh, it's it's a fabulous part of the show again That gets offered for people to be able to buy sell and trade gear once they register Once they pay for it. Whatever happens is on them if they want to buy sell trade We don't get a percentage. I'm not interested in that You're just coming in and I'm just providing a platform for you to potentially sell your gear Our trade or whatever you want to do. Yeah, and that's uh, I feel like that's where you get some really good deals But like you said you got to act fast and I know from being at at shows and sharing booths with vincent Um from vitalizer now junk rock drums Man, I mean vincent will leave with his Prius where he there's barely room for him to sit in the car And like he's left stuff on the you know, like free stuff on the side of that road and the as he's leaving like even rugs So people will clean up. So um, so I asked with that Yeah, indeed and if I may um, this brings up another topic, um that uh, I'd like to really give a shout out to The people that have have graciously donated their time to be on staff of the Delaware show Of patty tony and cuz at the front door patty is mike's wife and friend tony and cuz is all in the family They handle admissions t-shirts, etc. They're there all day. They handle all the money. They do it for the love I've tried to pay them. They're like no, we're not interested. It's wonderful and I had this fellow who The people in the community know him as mr. Sticks john morr is his name What a what a wonderful man. He was Um, I met him years ago at the pennsylvania show I was a a vendor there, of course newly into it trying to learn the people and the players And at one point this tall gentleman with a big smile Literally went ballroom dancing by himself with sticks in his hand Down the aisle and looked and just gave a great big smile And I was with my buddy mark weaver and we watched him dance by and I went What the hell was that? Well, it turned out that this was um A man who was in his element and was just so happy to be a drum shows And then I met him years later as a vendor at the original Delaware show And just one is one of the sweetest warmest people you could ever meet When he found out I was taking over the show he called me forthwith and said how can I be a part of the show? I went well I need a consignment manager. He went. I'm your man for no pay for no Anything other than hey, can I bring some stuff? Yes, whatever you want. He was unbelievably dedicated to that position To the point where I said to him I said listen if people don't have a wristband They can't get in so we can't get guys trying to slip in the consignment door. Yeah Well at one point I have someone going joe You need to go to consignment area. I go over and bernard purdy is there with friends of his And this guy was not letting him in because his friends did not have the wristband I was like, oh my god. Okay. It's all good. Come on. He's doing his job. He's doing what you told him Amazing a couple years later. David was thinking and calls me on the phone and goes I'm trying to get in but this guy sticks is not letting me. What's going on? Okay. Okay. No problem. Dave no problem So then years later I put like a vip list said sticks these people can come in let them in That's he there would be times in the middle of the show. I would look over They'd be a line down the aisle and he was madmingly working busy well recently Sticks john I got word that he wasn't feeling well. He went to the doctor and unfortunately within weeks He was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and passed away and we lost a wonderful drum brother I mean, of course, not only a consignment manager for me, but yeah, man He was an amazing personality and was missed and loved by many and Of course, I'm gonna dedicate this year's show to him and Yeah, it's it's it's a shame, you know, we Bart, I mean, it's it's it's all a part of life. We we lose people but when it goes so So quickly like this and hits home He'll always be a part of the vintage drum family and would just float around and Cracked jokes and new people and just loved being a part of it man. So yeah sticks I know he'll be there in spirit, but we miss you And luckily I was able to reach out and some people are going to fill the consignment area on You know, they're going to take shifts my buddy John Dorn also Chris Rats I have to get his name again But from ball to more drum mark my buddy mark weaver's gonna fill in I will check in as well So consignment area will be covered and live on in honor of my buddy and love for you Mr. Sticks and we know you're gonna be there buddy Yeah, I never got to meet him, but I've heard such great things over the last couple weeks from From a few people. So that's nice here. I mean, it's funny. It takes it takes multiple people to fill the shoes of one guy Amazing who had it was amazing That's funny. Okay, so Let's talk about Your clinicians, I think that might be a good thing for the sake of time to jump into Yeah, what do we have this year for clinics? I know seen right here. We've got some people who have been on the show Mr. Jason Gianni so so explain a little bit what we got in clinician Okay, so So as I said earlier that you know, I have a criteria set up for the clinicians Not that they're just big names that's going to draw people and get butts in the seats I have walked out on many big name clinicians Because it was like them just sitting there blowing a solo and then just talking about their career and I went I'm out of here. This is not what it's about. So this year Okay, well, let me preface a little bit when Again when neil pert passed away I got word that there was a gentleman named mike zimbeck Who was a neil pert and phil collins? aficionado Collection wise he went went over exactly what these guys had and knew everything about them I reached out to him and said hey man, would you be interested in bringing your Neal pert collection to the show as part of tying in with the t-shirt and honoring neal at the show Not only did he agree to do that and did it but he created a mini medley performance for about five minutes of tying in Rush tunes together and played them on the actual Collection that he had it was sensational man Well, one of the people that were with him was this fellow jason giani Who was there totally just to support him and tune the entire kit? He was there tuning the kit. So I got to speak to him a bit and was like wow man this this guy is Awesome. He's just here to Be a part of it and just assist mike So mike did his performance. It was amazing and is now become a staple of the delaware drum show of a mini clinic on stage dedicated to A famous drummer mike is going to be there again this year from 115 to 130 And he's bringing his insane replica phil collins set up and has prepared again a performance medley for phil collins So mike's going to be a 115 to 130 the mini clinic That's right up on the stage and we invite everybody up onto the stage So it's kind of an intimate little Performance area not just blasting out into the big room and it's really successful. It's really cool People are right up front. They can see all around the kit. They chat with mike afterwards. It's um, it creates Yeah, it creates this really cool little environment Amongst the giant area and it's not a way in the clinic room as well Yeah So jason then I started to kind of view online and saw not only his online presence But learned that he is an amazing Experience performer dead to right around the globe and is one of the premier educators at A drummer's collective in new york So I reached out to him and said hey man, you know, you think you would be interested in being a clinician this year He was like absolutely it would be my honor What type of clinic do you want? What I said man Whatever You want to do so He's passionate. He's experienced He is a better player than seven eights of the people that are going to be in the room And he is a fantastic communicator That's home moron. Yeah, and he lives close And he lives close the other fellow then I always am in search I'm constantly Viewing online reaching out because you know, it's important to have someone that has an online presence That I know is going to do some additional promotion as well You know, it all helps it helps for the cause and man I came across this dude his name is james murphy And he is an educator at the berkeley school of music percussion department Up in boston and he is really hip. He's cool. He's got a great online presence No pretense and is an amazing performer and has this specific personalized Playing concept that's called glue sticking Where he ties in multiple rhythms within the basis of performance And I just caught his vibe and said man, this is this is the guy I reached out for him and he was like Yes, it would be an honor to be there. So mike zinbeck is going to do his mini clinic jason is the first clinician at 11 And then james murphy is just going to knock socks dude at two o'clock I mean, that's so cool. And I think you're the kind of guy who is very Detail oriented, which you can probably tell by your You know your restorations, which I think people Have seen online and we can now See behind you a lot of your work for the folks watching the video which you can see on youtube if you're listening, but These these clinics are not your average Arena rock drummer coming up and playing to a track which has its place. I mean, I love that at Drum days back in, you know the You know the early 2000s ish mid 2000s Your pay six, they're awesome. Let's be honest. We love that stuff, but you're doing some specialized stuff which it's That's kind of how I like to do things as well with this show as you know so people can trust your special kind of like You you've just you're curating a really special thing. I think is is what people can look forward to Well, you know what too Bart is I was I devoted my life prior to what I do now to Public school instrumental music education, you know, I was the band director Grades three through 12. I've taught anything from kindergarten to community college So I come from an extensive education Background and it's important to me to offer people something that as I said earlier when they leave that room They're leaving that room inspired And have more information but are able to have someone that can Successfully communicate What they have to someone else regardless of their level Yeah, if if you can you can have all of this information and all of this talent and if you can't get it past your nose I mean, you know, you're sitting at a mini concert going So it's people man that because this is what I expect As an educator This is what I expect on the delivering and the receiving end and man all three of these people Absolutely hit that mark as well on top of being amazingly experienced performers Yeah, yeah, and I mean The other two folks I I'm sure they're amazing. I can speak to Jason Gianni who's been on the show Who did backbeat drumming in the 40s and 50s was an episode not too long ago But man, he knows his stuff and is just a passionate guy. So people can really look forward to that did So uh, next on our list here to talk about is vendors. So I'm assuming today. It's February 4th This will be out. Maybe February 6th or 7th. I think if my math isn't wrong It's probably too late for folks to join up as a vendor at this point I would say right or If maybe next year they want to get on how to vendors, you know, well, yeah Sure, I'll tell you this that and again Delaware drum.com go to the vendor page You can see the which whoo you just reminded me I have to update it You can see the most current list And what I also do is I create a complete list of the vendors in alphabetical order What they're bringing their name and their contact information so that it can be also used as a reference After the show there's nothing worse than going to a drum show seeing something going home and going Damn it. What was that guy's name so they can always use the vendor list as a complete reference and you can contact Directly vendors can contact each other. I purposely did that so again from an educational standpoint, but To use the website as a year round reference I have to say man that the the vendors have become Man some of these guys I've known for years. They're amazing. They're some of the a beautiful combination of the Middle age I'd say I'm 61 my age Older and the younger guys who have dedicated their lives some of these guys. This is what they do They own or rent space and they fill it with vintage drums. They drive around the country They go to drum shops. They buy vintage stuff to then turn it around to sell it. It's Jesus It's so impressive that these guys are able to do this and have decided to do it and dedicated The vendors are coming from South Hadley, Maine, Rochester, New York Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, New York, Delaware, New Jersey, Nashville West Virginia, Virginia, South Carolina, North Carolina Man, it's amazing. And they are when I tell you the top of the top vintage New Woodwig drums is going to be represented with Terry Bassett Zildjian cymbals is going to be represented piste cymbals is represented Nicky moon trinity cymbals I know I'm leaving some people out again Delaware drum.com vendor Wooden weather Hawthorne drums Jay drums Michael is going to have a booth Charlie Braun jack Lawton cardinal percussion is a new vendor this year of all new accessories and drum stuff Crocker percussion who has his beautiful array of cajon slash wooden instruments etc Ah, man, you know, I I shouldn't get into the listing because there's a lot of them There's 36 vendors this year. Yeah, I have changed I changed the setup This year so that there's a better flow through the room instead of two single lines going down And man, I have to tell you that these people make the effort They drive the travel they pay the tolls and guests. They've rent the hotel rooms. They buy the booth space And you cannot get a better I'm confidently saying this man You cannot get a better collection of passionate Vendors across the board cymbals accessories new vintage used drums unit memorabilia Banners Dude, it's it's fabulous drumsticks You know jc drumsticks with this amazing persimmon sticks Etc etc a man and these people are there to buy sell trade talk Yeah, yeah, hang hang their passion. I mean, it's so uh, I think it goes without saying that you You clearly care so much about this and the fact that you're like So every year it seems like you're improving upon flow and things like that, which Which um, I think rob cook is the same way because I always equate things, you know, he's the chicago show It you gotta every year say all right. Maybe this didn't work so well Let's maybe set it up this way. So so you're I think vendors appreciate that and and I know it's not just with me but you've been very I think you You are very uh nurturing to the Younger generation. Maybe it's because you were an educator for so long You know in the school system that you like seeing the younger guys come up And I know I've felt that from you Um So I think people like that not that there's too many people who are curmudgeony and don't want to help younger people You know in this community, but you are like especially As you said in your episode come on in the water's fine Like you want to teach and show people and I think just in general that that That crosses everything in your life and in your working with the Delaware show. So all these vendors I I'm sure they're just they're friends with you They definitely are and I have to tell you that After as I said earlier, you know when I was up and coming in this and and just meeting people and such and Made sure that I respectfully And passionately represented my knowledge my collection and my appearance to Be in the same league as these people so that then when I said, hey, you know, I'm thinking about doing a drum show They're like we're there and you know when when you deal with vintage instruments and drums Bart you're feeling you're you're dealing with vintage people and to To have Younger people Passionate about vintage drums and understand their importance It's What's going to keep it alive? Yeah, and what's going to keep it in the history that These drums, you know, it's always the it's always the conversation of okay. Well, what is going to be the next? important valuable collectible Vintage drum and you can see of course that it moves through the decades for like years ago It was the 60s oyster pearl colors and when the 70s bowling ball if you will came out people were like That looks like crap because they were you know with the guys who are comparing it to ringo and the Beatles era Well, man as years move on Wow, they've become cool in their own right in addition So it adds and and it moves along to where now we're back into all these the big Giant octa plus kits which cracks me up the tama of course tama has come back up in You know camco hoshino that era and to have younger guys that are not also willing to Be a part of it but make the commitment to have the brick and mortar shops is like God, thank you guys because you're carrying on a legacy of many before you and You know as I said It's no age no religion. No sexual orientation playing a billy. None of that matters It's we all have this same passion and man everyone's just like yeah, let's do this together and they are vital For the continuance Of the vintage drum legacy all the way back to the beginning man to the to the 1800s So it's it's wonderful and I am ever so grateful for these guys to Want to make the effort and I always end by saying Thank you for being a part of the success of the Delaware drum show. Thank you. Yeah, totally I think you just hit on a good point too of saying thank you to these guys and girls for starting shops And keeping it going because sometimes you forget that like These are people with families and kids and it's not the safest bet in the world to open a vintage drum shop Even in a lot of cities where there's multiple So to take that risk Just for our our passions Is really important and special it's it's amazing and one other thing I'd like to touch upon too is that As with any drum show, of course, there's always what's known as The volume issue Sure the sound police and stuff. Yeah, yes, so uh a couple years ago. I was able to uh Uh entice a horse You know, um bribe Friends of mine to be the volume policemen because it's you know, it's it's it's a it's a daunting task And I as a man 15 seconds. We don't need gospel and heavy metal chops Blasting in the middle of the room. It's not about you. It's about the instrument. So, um, You know I this year, um Bob Meyer mark weaver and richard blanchard are gonna be my roving volume policemen But in my efforts to continue to involve and approve the show I was able within the facility to find what's known as a Demo room and it is around the back of the stage and away from the main floor Uh chris card bux county drums an amazing custom drum builder in pennsylvania And again, mike juliano of j drums have graciously agreed to have two kits in the demo room There's going to be snare drum stands and cymbal stands so that if somebody wants to really try something out People have multiple uh workers in their booth take them to the demo room There's going to be people that are monitoring that myself included to make sure there isn't complete anarchy in a mini concert drum battle Going on in there. Yeah smart. Um, I've never heard of anything like that. That's very smart Again, try and my best to accommodate All facets of the drum show and at that point I mean christ, I've got three guys walking around the room intermittently going 15 seconds are going. Hey man, could you please not to the players to the booth guys because I got to tell you bark You know by the time like one o'clock comes around, you know people get a little lax They get a little tired and all of a sudden there's some kids sitting there smashing away and it's like Yeah, come on. I mean I think a lot of people listening to this are drum you know fanatics who have been to shows but No one it's like I used to work at guitar center and and samash and it's like no one really wants We love drums, but we don't really want to hear someone wailing for five minutes And it was like Mom dropping off the kid and then going next door to like one of those shows or stores It's always next to guitar center and and then the kid would just play and you you feel bad, but At drum shows you really it drives people insane. That's a drum show I don't want to say killer, but it's like it's sort of like someone needs to be telling this person No one wants to be the bad guy. Yes, but someone's got to just say like Come on. You're really like everyone's kind of looking like You know, okay, is he gonna stop so so it's cool that you're you're having I mean the the demo room is a very smart idea. You're also right where that could turn into absolute chaos But I think it sounds like you've got it. You've got it sort of covered Yeah, well theoretically I got a covered bard, but you know, I'll let you know after this year But knowing you you're gonna you're gonna watch it. You're gonna improve upon it. You're gonna indeed see what happens Yeah, and you know try to make it best too because let's face it There's there's one other small area in the show too that I'm gonna set a light up It's right by like the cymbal guys and go Go in there go in there close the doors, you know be respectful Of course, you know, I have signs all over the place inside outside be respectful of the instruments be respect You know be respectful the vendors if a vendor comes in with a potential client Stop doing your john bonham lives and let this guy try out a friggin snare drum or a cymbal so he can hear the damn thing So it Again, theoretically, hopefully it's going to work in favor of not only the vendor, but for the the uh overall Results at hand. It's such a dichotomy man because it's a drum show but however You know and look I could just equate this to personally years ago when the pearl masters You know i'm dating myself when the pearl masters the line first came out I was like, oh my god. These are gorgeous And I don't know sam ash guitar center or even what store it was at that time Yeah, they had a brand new kit and I said to the guy said, you know, can I Try these out and of course he was like Yeah, okay, and I sat down and I literally went I went Okay, and he looked and went That's it. I went Yeah, I mean, what more do I need to hear him? Yeah. Yeah What do I did? Yeah, he went, uh, okay, and I said, you know, can we talk about and That's all you need, you know, you okay ride symbol you want to live with it a little bit So i'm gonna try to provide an environment. It may be a little bit more um Inconvenient for the vendor, but on the other hand, it's like if you want this guy to hear the symbol and really potentially buy it I'm trying to provide two areas where you can do that and it's a little more intimate Yeah, I think that's a really good solution to a to a pretty common problem Obviously, there's going to be within that solution. There may be other Problems that I'm sure you'll work out of like getting in and out and taking it back and re re stocking quote-unquote But uh, I have no doubt that you'll figure it out. Um really well, so I mean you've said it multiple times, but people can go to delaware. It's delaware drum com Yes, sir And uh, all the info is there. I think that if people are in the vicinity that makes this makes this, you know You should drive across the country to go there and be there and check it out But um, I think it's it's kind of neat how these drum shows work where the regions Are kind of covered by different shows. Uh, oh absolutely So you've got that that corner of the country, you know, and I have to tell you uh years ago When the uh rick smith was for years. He ran the uh, Connecticut show and Again, man when I was a newbie in this man, I talked to rick was like, okay, man What do you do for this? What do you do for you? You know, it's like the old tony robbins thing If you want to be successful Find someone who already is successful and model what they do So I said, okay. I spoke to rick. I spoke to jack lawton when he was running the pa show I spoke to rob cook. Oh my god. I mean how much rob Jesus he's got the most successful drum show In the world it's in two-day international amazing event. It's it's amazing, man And I would never in my life attempt to Uh, I don't even want to say compete. It's not about competing. You know, I used to say that to with rick We would talk. He's like, so who are you getting for clinicians because I don't want to maybe I said rick More than likely the people regionally that are going to come to my show Are not going to are not going to go to yours and vice versa Like, you know, the guys on the cusp of new york long island. They're like, I'm going to connecticut Yeah, you know or little lower. Well, now that rick has said man several years ago. That's it. I'm done. I've had it There is no connecticut show It really leaves it now open for new york connecticut massachusetts virginia west, you know where Nashville, I mean western pennsylvania. It's pretty much the northeast corridor that Yeah, I really tried it. That's why I Man, I try to work so hard to Have an event that's going to be worthy of someone Making that not just a financial effort, but making the travel effort to go. You know what man That was worth going to and i'm glad I went to it And i'm glad that I was able to be a part of it So because of the absence of the connecticut show, it's pretty much Delaware of course Um chicago and then the newest one that's propped up is you know the the music city drum show and what's beautiful is Again, it's not who's better than who because each show has its own personality And that's you know, people explain that to me that they're like, dude Relax your show has got a vibe to it and man, it's not about competition Hey, the more drum shows the merrier, I think as long as they don't compete time wise and location wise No, there has to be more there has to be more than one. There's more indifferent. You know, they have to be in different locations Uh, that just makes if if people like the chicago show in may then in february They're gonna love your show. I mean they're they're it gets some more into it and excited and um, there's no one better to be running this That I think cares about the attendees and the vendors and everything So I think people can really look forward to it And i'm sorry to cut in but I really feel as though if i'm gonna mention drum shows The st. Louis show also has been doing their thing the las vegas drum show which has come on I remember speaking to that gentleman, um about his facility and this and that which is a beautiful thing man, yeah, and um Man, who am I missing chicago st. Well, uh Poshai doing his covington rogers show. Yeah, you know a man Talk about a show that's got its own vibe to it Which is wonderful man, and they have you know, they did like their own parade that they Man did and you know, I have to say shout out to the Covington and the rogers guys. They are so Passionate about rogers drum, which is wonderful. There's a beautiful history there man that uh, and and I believe po told me that He's he's gonna make the effort and come out to the um Delaware show which is wonderful. So you know if somebody is is crazy enough to to Say they're gonna produce one of these things and put an event together. They deserve The accolades and the applause too if you can't attend it to at least Acknowledged here, which is is again, it's it's what it's all about. It's not about competition It's about us sharing our passion and individuals wanting to take the next step You know, they need to be respected and and honored and thanked yeah for doing that for the rest who Are not able to do it now because you're right because you think about it. It's just a drum show But no, there are literal. I mean you are creating an event where there's health and safety involved. There's food. There's Beer, I'm assuming or drinks. I mean, there's there's things absolutely nothing better than walking around a drum show holding the beer Oh, it's you know, I have to tell you too that once I get in and the show is and and um And then I can relax I start looking around and that's what I realize There are people that I know Who are hanging? They got a beer in their hand and they're all just hanging doing the drum vibe. That's when I walk around and go Oh my god, this is so cool. Yeah, you've done it Yeah, now you can relax Well, um, I think this has just been perfect It gives us a glimpse into how these drum shows work with someone who is clearly very passionate and uh And I think I said earlier in the episode But you were the first interview I did uh at ever for this podcast and I found you Through a jim masina video Yes on youtube and I remember just sitting in my basement at my old house going That's the guy I need to get on for this. Who's that coke? For this crazy idea of this podcast. So again, you were just like, yes I want to help out and come on the show and you did and uh things have been um, you know Great ever since so thank you for that some ever since uh, thank you bar It's such a pleasure and as I told you early on and I thank you for those accolades But so proud of what you are doing and what you've achieved You know, you weren't just like some kid in his basement going I like to try this and then after four or five you peter out you not only have taken it but And I know I threw a bunch of names talk to this guy talk to that guy and you did And then you just launched on your own and just took it to A whole new level and continue to take it to a level and evolve it and kudos to you bart Banderzy for even allowing me to have a platform like this to talk about the drum show I Felt thank you so much to my pleasure. You're the best and it means a lot to hear that from you I'm no longer a kid in the basement. I'm a I'm a guy in his unfinished third floor Attic right now. So I've graduated But um, so, uh, Joe is going to be nice enough to join us for a patreon bonus episode And we're going to talk about his boom creations. He makes amazing modern restorations of um Wooden like rolling bombers and the world war two era kits Um, so if you want to hear that you can go to drumhistorypodcast.com I click the patreon link and join up for as little as two bucks a month And I believe actually this is going to be a video one because Joe's going to show us some cool His latest creation so again Go over to the website and check it out and join up which a lot of you folks have been doing which I greatly appreciate So on that note, Joe, thank you for being here. Again, folks can go to delaware drum.com I'll have the link in the description and anything else Um, Joe my man. Thank you for being here Thank you so much again barred. It was a pleasure and uh, I certainly look forward to the next time We will be face to face and hugging as do I