 Hi, how's everybody doing today? I am your host Rich here on behalf of RichTVLive with our very special guest, Todd Corbin, the CEO of Odseum. How are you doing today, Todd? Great. Thanks for having me, Rich. Thank you for joining us. Can you please tell me a little bit about yourself, Todd? Yeah, sure. My name is Todd Corbin. I actually grew up in Las Vegas, but after undergrad at the University of Southern California, I majored in broadcast journalism. And through that, I got on with ESPN covering tennis in Europe. And through that, the Olympics in Barcelona that I got on that, and I was doing all the up close and personal stories. So, you know, like the best Greco-Roman wrestler in the world or fencer. And then before the gold medal, they would roll in a piece. And I was living in Munich where in 1989, I met my girlfriend doing that tennis tour. She was working at the Davis Cup as a host. And I ended up coming to Munich and, you know, learned the language. And after the Barcelona Olympics in 92, a brand new network was starting to kind of copy ESPN. And at a very young age, I was put in charge of bringing the NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball, NHL, and to Germany. And yeah, so not only helping with the rights negotiation, but the production. And I even, the first three years, I even had a show on television. And it was sort of a wrap around and a kind of a highlight of all the U.S. sports. And I was doing it in German, but with an American accent. So similar when you listen to English guys call soccer, it sounds more authentic. So I did that. And then around, you know, we did a lot, you know, I covered 10 Super Bowls, eight Stanley Cubs, eight or nine NBA Finals, three or four Olympics, a lot, you know, a lot of big events. And I grew up in Vegas and my dad was in the gaming business. So, you know, talking about, you know, sports betting lines, the over and under, talking about how much a slot machine the edge has, talking about, you know, if Bachara, you know, all different things in the gaming business, it was sort of in our, you know, at the dinner table. And I grew up in Vegas, you know, and so when poker television was starting out at first was coming in Germany was the biggest, the new market, the UK was the first big market for online gaming in the world. And Germany was like the next frontier because you had 100 million people, great internet infrastructure, you know, the people made a lot of money, enough money. So and so I brought, we are company, the network bought poker TV, right? Poker. And I knew it because I played a lot of poker, I played in the World Series of poker, and I played a lot of cash games growing up in Vegas. And before people knew a lot about poker, and we'd wake up at like two in the morning, we'd be fresh and the tourists in Vegas would have been drinking since eight, and we would play very, you know, very classic poker. And we'd do all right. So I knew a lot about poker. And so I got put in charge of that. And then through that, I got to learn all these new online gaming companies about online gaming. So they're at the time, it was PartyPoker and 888 and D-Win and all of that. And they were like, wow, you know, you know, you know, you're American, you speak English, you know, the German market, this is the market we want to get into, you're actually running our poker for us, you know, come on board with us. So, you know, I made a decision, you know, through various reasons, our network had been re-bought and kind of the accountants and stuff were starting to kind of run the company. So instead of having a six, six camera shoot, it was only four cameras, instead of going two days before to do good journalist work, you could only go a half a day before. So it was getting more, wasn't as fun, right? So I jumped into this in 2000 and into 2004. And I was hired by 888 Holdings, which is one of the larger online gaming companies in the world before they became public and in charge of the German market. And one thing led to another and I became the VP there and I opened their sports book, ran their sports book and I had actually launched their brand in over 40 different countries, including bringing the US back in 2014. And then what had happened, I grew up in Vegas. They knew of me because I just launched the New Jersey. So they gave me a very good offer to come work for them. This is back in 2014. I brought my family from Munich where we were living and all the way back to the US to Vegas where I grew up and they knew Vegas from coming here and visiting their grandparents and all of that. So it was kind of like a second home. And yes, I've been in Vegas since around 2015. But in the online gaming business since 2005, I met and how I got to know to make, I bet Wayne was when we were coming in this early days, 2013, 14, when the beginning of online gaming was starting to get regulated in the US. That's where I met Wayne and we've stayed in contact with that. So when he told me about Vegas, winners and I said, well, you know what, I'm putting a company together. This is about three years ago with a partner of mine in Sweden. And we had always worked on the operator side. So we knew what operators needed in a sports betting aggregator, which is Aussie, which I'll tell you about. So when he told me about Vegas winners, I said, my God, Wayne, this is perfect. I need content. We have the technology. This is a perfect synergy. And then obviously I've been in the online gaming business probably longer than most people he knows. So he wanted me to help him, helping him, introducing him to operators and really understanding the digital, the online world of online gaming. And we both live in Las Vegas. So yeah, that's kind of how it happened. So yeah, I'm happy to be a part of it. But I really see that there's this really good synergy between the two companies. That's a fantastic story. I came from the same background of Radiant Television Broadcasting. Funny that we're all kind of coming together now on this project. Why have you joined the Vegas Winners Advisory Board? Well, you know, Wayne, Wayne asked me and, you know, I told him that I'd be more than happy to, you know, because I, you know, I like Wayne and he's a friend of mine. And it's something, you know, if someone asked me and it's something that I can really, I think bring value to and it, you know, doesn't cut away from my main business of OXIEM and actually adds to it. I said I'll be more than happy to get involved because what I wanted is to kind of bring the companies working closely together. So OXIEM basically, what we are, we're kind of like, think of hotels.com, but for sports betting, we're an aggregator. So on one platform, one app, you can have your DraftKings, your FanDuel, your Fox Fed, all on one app, you see your wallet, everything. So you don't have to like click to six different apps. You don't have to then go to NFL.com to get an injury report. You don't have to see the table. You don't have to see that the, you know, the bucks of one, you know, whatever, two in a row, all that's kind of all on one app. Nice. And that's why we've been live for about a year and a half in Sweden, and we're in the process of, you know, coming to the US. We're licensed now in New Jersey, Colorado, Indiana, and we're about to get our Pennsylvania license. We're also licensed in Nevada. Wow. And so that's kind of why I said, listen, you know, Vegas winners, I need good content to help add to this. So it's a nice, so someone like Wayne, you know, says that, you know, you know, let's say the bucks, you know, bucks were planned to giants right on Monday night. And he gives a, he gives a, his idea of who's going to win and why you should pick that. So by going then to Hotsiem, it gives you even more of a reason because you might say, he might say, yeah, pick, pick the bucks at minus seven. But if you go to Hotsiem, there might be a book that's offering it at, at minus, at minus six. So it's even better. And then all the different bonuses and all the, the ease of using the app and whatnot. So there's a perfect synergy. So that's why I really got involved, you know, with Wayne and this project as well. Can you also explain to our audience what Vegas winners does? Okay, so think of Vegas winners is basically, you know, we live in a very busy world now, there's a lot happening. And to really to do in anything well, you have to really take a deep dive. It's a, if it's a poker player, if it's sports betting, anything where there's a skill, right, a golfer, anything, you need hours and hours of time to really go through the line, look at all of the details, look at history and history of what happened. So Vegas winners is basically a service that helps you make those decisions a lot easier and quicker. So think of it almost like, I would think of it like, you know, let's say you were going to buy stock or make something. So it's almost like speaking to your stockbroker or someone who does that for a living and can tell you why you should buy this stock, or maybe you should divest into Bitcoin, or maybe you should hold off and have everything in cash. So it's actually that's kind of what Vegas winners is it basically helps you make a smart decision because you're getting the, you know, the for people, that's what they do for a living, you know, their experts, that's what they do 10 hours a day. And not only what they do, but they have all the history to look at the back, you know, the back thing. So oh, yeah, Tom Brady, or, you know, let's say a perfect example might be like Derek Carr, you know, the Raiders have a history of playing bad in cold weather, and they can give you all the reasons why and all this all these different things. So it just helps you make a, you know, at the end of the day, you still got to make your own bet. You know, so, you know, because Wayne told you to do that, you might really strongly feel against that and still, but at least you, you have an expert and you least got the advice because at the end of the day, you know, the not knowledge is power, you know, 100%, I agree with you 100%. And we do the same thing with stocks. So, you know, our community is always looking at me to do the research. But I always say to them, I'm not licensed. So do your due diligence and always consult a financial advisor for an extra opinion. So it's always good when you're making a bet, or you're investing in a stock to get other opinions, so that you're not necessarily making a decision 100% on your own. So I really, I like the concept. Now, what is the value proposition that Vegas winners offers its clients? Well, I mean, what I mean, what Vegas winners, the value proposition is that it's by using the service, you should win much, you should win more than lose, you know, so, you know, if you if you end up winning a winning sports better, you know, you have to you have to take the juice of 5%. You know, now it's a little higher because it's, you know, a lot of people are in newer markets are excited about betting parlays and different things like that. So it's a little higher right now. But when the dust settles, it'll come back to kind of more of what Vegas is where the books are working on a 5% margin. So if you can, you know, win, you know, 56, 57% of the time and you got a two 3% edge, then if that's what Vegas winners can help you provide that, then that's the service. Now, they have to do that, they have to give you good advice, which they will. And by following the advice, you know, there might be there might be weeks where you lose. But if you look at it over the course of a season, or a whole year, if you're betting multiple sports, if you end up a winner, then that's the service that it's giving you just good advice. So that's how you have to look at it. And you shouldn't look at it as a short term, you know, short term, because at the end of the day, even though betting sports is a skill, they're still like picking stocks or anything, there's still an element of luck that does come in or other things that you can't factor in. But long term, a good handicapper, a good sports better is going to win. And that's why there's not that many people that do it for a living. So anytime someone says, Oh, I you know, I do that for a living, or if I play poker for a living right back, you know, I always they for me, they have to at least be doing it for at least five years. That's their primary source of income. And they've learned how to deal with this, you know, the swings, the highs and the lows. So, you know, there's very few people to do to do that. And because sports betting is becoming a lot more mainstream and a lot more popular, you know, this is really important because the the sports books, you know, they really know what they're doing. And they set the lines that are very, very razor thin. So you know, the sports books have a lot of data and a lot of things that they're working off of. There's no reason why the consumers shouldn't have the benefit to at least tap into some of that as well. How has the opportunity been enhanced due to the continued growth of the online gaming industry and COVID-19? Oh, well, I mean, you know, obviously COVID, COVID, you know, is obviously something that I don't think anyone in, you know, in our life, you know, anyone that's like 80 years old or younger, 90 years old or younger has ever experienced. So basically, not many people. So it's obviously terrible, terrible. But there has been in the online gaming business is silver lining. So even before when sports were closed, you know, the online gaming casino business was up 300, 400%. So the companies that had, you know, New Jersey and Pennsylvania had online, they were making a lot of money and they were off shooting because their casinos were closed. And then when sports came back on, you know, more people are doing it just, you know, personally, you know, I've always been obviously I grew up in the digital space and I've been in this business. But, you know, even when I visit friends and they're in town and they want to watch a game and they're in a sports book, I still bet from a mobile app, you know, it's just quicker. It's faster. I know that I'm going to get the bed in. I don't get blocked out. I don't, you know, the human error, the person at the window doesn't write down the wrong, you know, there's a lot of factors that go in. And so you still get the fun experience of being in the in the sports book. But, you know, COVID has definitely not just in online gaming, but in cashless payments in meeting like we are meeting right now, because it's definitely all these things were happening. It's just COVID just put this stuff on steroids. And just in my opinion, anything that was digital or whatnot, it made it happen two to three years faster. So, you know, it was a natural evolution. And, you know, COVID has actually been a silver, you know, silver lining for the online gaming space and online sports betting space. Now, Todd, as the CEO of Odzium, you touched on this earlier. Can you please tell our audience what exactly Odzium does and what makes you and your business unique? Yeah, so what we do is we are what's known as a sports betting aggregator. So as I said, similar to hotels.com or Travalgo, if you're looking for a flight. So if you're looking for lines in a game, they'll vary depending on sports book, they might vary, you know, anywhere from a half a point to a point to even one and a half depends on what the sports book is trying to do. Some sports books might want to be a lost leader and take a lot of action because they want to acquire customers so that they'll be able, they might want to lose on that game, you know, but they want to acquire customers. And then that's the same with the over and under as well. And that also with various promotions for signups and things like that. So what we do, we condense that all on one app that you see very easily, all the different lines, all the different promotions, you can connect, you know, from one app, you can connect your fan bill, your drafting. So because what what operators, what we've seen have been in this business and run a sports book is that the customers that everyone wants are the customers that usually have three to four different accounts with three or four different operators. So and what what our team does, unlike other affiliates where, you know, there's a lot of affiliates that will write content and and then they'll have like a banner and then you click it and then that's lost, you know, our conversion rate right now in Sweden is about 90 percent where that conversion rate the other way is only about 10 percent. So that's the first thing. And then by us being connected with the customer, we act almost like a mini CRM department for the operators helping them, you know, because we have all this data on what the customers are doing and how they're betting and everything. So that's a great thing. And then we feel that potentially OXIME with the regulators could be an interesting tool to use, too, because they have such a great overview and digitally, you know, in right in 24 seven, right, you know, righted in play what's happening overall. So, you know, it's it's there's nothing really like it. It took us about three to four years to develop. And we've been live for about a year, the over a year in Sweden. So we're really excited because, you know, if you look at if you look as a market matures, and people learn more about sports betting, they'll want to get better odds. And then if they're connected to someone like, you know, Vegas winners and Wayne and Wayne will says, well, you know, by all means, you know, take the Steelers, but only if you have to give five, no more if it's five and a half. So then by something like oxygen, you can look very carefully, very quickly at all the different operators. Oh, there's an operator 888, they're offering it five where everyone else is at five and a half and six. So, man, on top of that, if I open a new account, I'm going to get $50 in free play. So, you know, similar to other aggregators, there's aggregators, like I said, in the travel business, there's aggregators now in the insurance business. All of the, you know, there's a lot of aggregators. And so that's what we are, but for sports betting. How might ASEAN and Vegas winners work and make money together? You guys obviously are partnering. So how does that work and how lucrative can that be for both of you guys? Well, I think two different ways. I think obviously if people see about, you know, they hear about Vegas winners and they're, they're, you know, engaging with the content whatnot, then by, you know, Wayne saying, sign up with ASEAN and whatnot, then we would share in the revenue that way. Now that the flip side, if, you know, people came to ASEAN and, you know, we would then tell our customer base, hey, you know, like, for instance, hey, Todd, we see that you know, you've been losing, you're only winning, you know, 35% of the time or whatnot. Because we break it down for you. You know, we show you exactly how much you're winning, how much you're losing on every different operator. You know, because people are super suspicious, you know, and by spores and all of this. So we give you a lot of good information, but you still might not be doing well. And then we could then easily sell. Well, you know, you should actually look at the service Vegas winners and that would, you know, help you become a better, better. So, you know, there's just a very natural synergy because obviously we're, we were, we were different, but we're working on the same customer base. Oh, this is great. I'm really excited about watching you guys evolve and the company grow. Thank you so much for your time today, Todd, the CEO of ASEAM now working hand in hand with Vegas winners. Congratulations on all your success and our entire community will be watching as you guys continue to evolve. Thank you so much. Nice talking to you. Pleasure. Nice talking to you as well. And for all of you guys that are watching, please go to Go Green. GOO is the symbol. GOO is the symbol on the OTC markets and Todd Cobrin is the CEO of ASEAM. Thank you so much for your time, Todd. Have yourself a great day. And thank you guys for watching. Bye bye. Thanks, everybody.