 We're going to give it a few minutes until at least five after for folks to show. Hey, Nicolay. Morning. Any notes posted to the zoom chat. You can add your name and any agenda items. We'll wait until five after to get started. Well, it looks like we have a very small group today. Do you. Have anything Nicolay to talk about? No, no. Let's go ahead. No, I mean, I was saying that that's a lot like 30 people. Yeah, that's a pretty decent group. And that's only who are willing to respond. And there's always people not willing to respond. Yeah. I said registered. I'll put RSVP. Yeah. So. I'm kind of just jumping down here, but let's see. What else do we have? So. Oh, well, this could be thrown things off. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Well, David. Time change in Europe. So we had a time change in the US. And a couple of weeks ago and now we're having Europe. I don't know if there's anywhere else that's different. But that could be throwing some people off for today. And we're canceling a few of the. Meetings. In April. Actually, most of them. There's public holiday. Then we got cube con week. And then past cube con. A lot of effects aren't available. I guess if. Some people that didn't come want to continue, that'd be fine. I will not be available that way. So we can come back and revisit this. I'm just going to. Like I may be. Here. I clicked add on. There's too many things. I want to do a comment. You're going to be there, Nikolai. For the whole week though, cube con. Yep. Great. You're going to make it to any of the other events like open source summit in Vancouver. No, no. You know, if I surveillance will be at the big five event in Austin in May. I don't have anything of that on my calendar. No. Oh, is, is OSS CFP still open? I don't know. No, no, no, I mean for this one problem. Which one I was referring for the European one. Oh, let's take a look. Looks like it. Yeah, until May 2nd. Oh, okay. And what about open networking and edge summit? Is it still happening? This, this one. Is that what you mean? Yeah. Yeah. So they're having it. Around the open source summit. I see. Yeah. By itself for. Yeah. Interesting. Is it the same for the European one? Well, I don't see that one at all. Did that, I think that one may have already happened. Stretch the screen. Hold on. Sorry. There's so little. Look at that. There it is. I can't make it any bigger. Yeah, there is. Yeah, this one's. It might have been like a past event. Though if it did it in Europe. The Europe would normally happen before. Since they're like a past event area. Open source summit Europe. Well, maybe they didn't get it set up. I think this is what happened. Instead of the one summit. They had the elephant developer and testing forum. And then the. So maybe they're splitting it doing this one. And then doing one summit. As one event. Anyways. I was going to add a few of the org names. Some names are recognized, but they're using. Like Gmail. Instead of. Company names. So I don't, I don't know. What the plan is there. I see Daniel. Yeah. I'm not going to list them all. I don't know. About a quarter or a third or just G mills and. Yahoos. Whatever. Wherever they're from. But that's a pretty good list. I see a few other company names. I'm not going to list them all and. I don't know about it. A quarter or a third or just G mills and. Yahoos. Or whatever they're from. But that's a pretty good group of CSPs and. Vendors. Yeah, it's time to merge this. That might have kept some people from joining. Since the time wasn't updated yet. At least here. I think it's, I think the calendar is correct. Yeah. I'm not sure if you're all subscribed to the. CNCF calendar. Yeah. Obviously updated my calendar. So you're here. Yeah. Yeah. I just imported the event from. From the official calendar from. Right. All right. Well, I guess this is it. If we don't have anything else today. Can you just quickly tell me if I submitted. For the birth of a federal session. I think I did. I just. If I missed, I should submit again. Let me look. I think if you try to submit, then it'll tell you. Oh, okay. If it's from the same email or whatever, but I see your name in it. You submitted for your I surveillance email. Yes. And you're not willing to talk. I'm just kidding. You didn't have a topic that you put in. Let's see. I see Paul Graham. That's, I think he's from. That would be Paul Graham from matrix. And he says yes and no for a topic. Interesting. We'll see how that goes. I didn't know that you could select both at the same time. You meant to do that or just play in because I didn't. That's a quantum computing cancer. Yeah. Let's. Topics. It's possible. Topic. Yes. Number. I'll say number of possible. Topic ideas. People have. Let's say one, two, three. Four, five, six, seven. I see at least eight there. And then there's, I think there's been a few that were listed that are not in here. So I'll just say. 10 to 12. So that's good. Better to come with some, some people to have some things. There's people to learn this. Sounds good. Why are people saying confirmance? Oh, I'm not even going to put that one. I didn't even have to. Okay. Let's see. Silva. Oh, there we go. Silva and FIO. Yeah. Someone wants to talk about Kamara. Kind of different. Different areas. All right. And then I think we had some over here. I dropped this and just further fixed to be able to come and say, where was it? Topic ideas. We're not sharing. I know it's shared in the video, but I don't want to make it clickable until we're ready. For the ether pad and share with you. We just don't want it to be spammed. Shift dinner. So there's, there's some topics that are wanting that have been put forward for discussion. So there seems to be a lot of interest in Silva. All right. Do these spark any ideas for you? Nikolai. You want to put forward right now. Not a big deal. Okay. Right now we don't have any type of virtual setup. So we're not officially planned for the telco gathering. Community gathering. Depending on where the venue is, which is potentially going to be offside about six minute walk from REI, maybe a little bit more parking lot. But fairly close. We found a. A co-working place. And that's. That one has. Maybe more capability to do. Presentations on a screen and. Potentially we could. Stream something like maybe a zoom or something. I don't think it's going to be. A great setup and I for virtual. Like where I would say ever, we're going to have video and great audio or something. So I don't want to push that if we can make it work, then that's fine. I wouldn't want to offer like any type of. Presentation virtually. Remote someone do a remote. So I think it would strictly be, you can join a zoom, you can listen. Maybe you can chat. In fact, I got to look at maybe bringing like a USB conference. I'm saying if as an option. The telco day being streamed. The telco day is not virtual at all. And it's not going to be virtual. Not recorded. No, no. It should be recorded. And yeah. Lucina's got it. She's, she's on the, she's. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a chair or whatever for that on the program committee. I don't have the details. All right. Great. So it'll be posted the same way. That's what the plan to do. And if we can get. What we need is to get sponsors for the North America. And we can get virtual. Every time the very first one, we had good attendance, both in person and virtual. And participation. So we need to get sponsors for the next ones, make sure it happens and that we can. And if we get it ahead of time, it's going to be a lot easier to get. You know, more spots, get people. In to the conference and everything else. And maybe do a full day rather than a half day. And then this informal. If we can get the sponsors. So pitch to I surveillance and tell, tell all your colleagues that other places. By the way, the last episode. Of the echo. I don't know if you'd know this is a telco. I will post it here. It's a, sorry, echo echo is a thing that, you know, it's revolving a lot around. Celium and EBPF in general. It's more of an EBPF. Based off, but it was with, I think, from DT. Yes. I'm going to talk about some telco stuff. They are interesting. Presentation I will post it here. As a note on the back. Okay. All right. Is that different from this? Celium EBPF for talk over plugs. No, it's, it's, it's a like a life. Oh, okay. Echo. Yeah. All right. No, it's the 84. Can you give a link to the project? Thank you for is that is echo is the podcast. Yeah, yeah, it's like a podcast or something like this, but it was a really, really nice discussion about the general telco problems in this, in the space, it was a lot less about EBPF and more about, you know, the general approach of telcos. Interesting. Some interesting tools from like being shared experience and stuff from Deutsche Telekom. Yeah, I really like the way that they think. All right. A little bit too optimistic about. But yeah. That's great. Well, maybe. We can just watch this, but also maybe it'd be something to put out on a tweet on the CNF working group and post it. If you don't mind, post it to the CNF working group slack channel. I will. Yeah, I will. Interesting questions, some discussions in the chat. Yeah. And the familiar diagrams. Of course, they keep it at a high level. It's for more generic audience, but yeah. So that is five, five G standalone. So we're talking private five G. Well, standalone here, I think means it's like, it's not mixed because, you know, the first deployments of the 5G were non standalone where you actually use the 5G radios and then the 4G core. And standalone means, you know, end to end 5G. Yeah. Interesting thing. Okay, I will post it into the channel. All right. Sounds good. Anything else? Yeah, it's a more generic discussion here. Not much about telcos. Probably this was the first one. Does it have any text content? No, they don't have upset 22. No, it was, it was 84. Actually, I mean. Oh, 84. Thanks. Edmund posted, I guess. I guess they'll upload it later. It's kind of cool that they have notes though. I think there was a link at the video to an etherpad or something. See in the, in the bottom right. In the video itself. Yeah, yeah. I saw it today. This is just looking here. Yeah. So it's etherpad IO echo. It looks like something like this. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, thanks for that. That's a good one. I'll watch that video. Okay. Thanks. Thanks, Nikolai. See y'all next week. Thank you. Have a good week.