 So today we are going to talk about content creation for non-profit. So HomeMI, my name is Jen Jambi. I'm a content creator. So I create content on video, webinars, workshops. I do email swipes, surveys and so much. I even do blogs. So that is the type of content I create. I also do digital marketing and I don't do everything in digital marketing. I specialize in search engine marketing that is Google Bing and Pinterest. I also do social media retargeting and I also encourage on email marketing and SMS marketing, which is always sidelined by so many business in Africa. Mostly here in Kenya, you find that you buy something online or you go to an NGO, they don't have a newsletter. And so they are not telling you about their new blog, their new one, their new anything because they are not doing this type of, they're not sharing what they are doing with me using their email. But if you go to Leona Chesa, they're doing it. And these are the things I want to talk about. I also do web design and graphic design. And graphic design is very important when it comes to content creation because you will need images to like, if you're going to talk about coronavirus awareness, you're going to demonstrate the importance of washing hands by images, by animated images. So graphic design plays a crucial role when it comes to content creation. Infographics, statistics, you're going to share them in form of graphic design, web design. So I tend to see so many websites in Kenya. A good example is in Wadada by Janet Bugua, this other one by the first lady, Beyond Zero Campaign. They don't have a part where you can donate. You can click on donate and you're able to donate like $30. And it goes checking out easily. There is no that system. So it becomes cumbersome when you have now to keep typing the details for the bank, doing things manually. So it discourages you to even donate because people want easy things. But when non-profit make it hard, it becomes hard to attract more funding. And this strategy has been done so well by Black Lives Matter website where they have a donate now button and you can donate easily. And they even ask you can we do recurring donation and you can be donating to them every month. But well, that's not what brought us here today. Today we are going to just talk about what is content creation. So content creation is a process of generating topic ideas that appeal to your biopersona, creating written or visual around those ideas and making that information accessible to your audience as a blog, video, infographic, and other formats. So let's say my topic is around female genital mutilation. There are people who don't understand what female genital mutilation is. So I have to come up with a topic and help people understand what this topic is all about, why they should pay attention to female genital mutilation, why they should pay attention to early marriages in the Masai culture, why they should care about the effects of female genital mutilation when it comes to childbirth and the woman enjoying sex. Why do we need to take action and why do we need to fight female genital mutilation all of us, but not just me alone? Okay, that's the purpose of content creation. So you want to create content and empower people. But now in this case, you're going to be using the internet. You're going to be using search engines like Google. You're going to be using email marketing. You're going to be using your website. You're going to be using Facebook posts. So you're going to use this post to create content that is engaging and tell these people, this is what I want you to do. And when you go to nonprofits, if you go to a Facebook post and a donation ad by World Food Program, in the comment section, let's say it's a video being done and they want donations. The button is donate now. You find in the comment section, they're saying a healthy woman borrowing food for hungry children trying to make money out of the poor because there is no content created to help people understand why we need to feed world health. World Food Program needs to feed the poor. You find so many negative comments in the comment section. And instead of that comment section being used to inspire each other or to educate each other on the importance of donating something to the hungry, we use it, those comment sections, we use it to discourage donations. This problem is created by not educating people as to why it's important to donate. And most people think donation is only money. You can donate your clothes. You can donate your skills. You can volunteer your skin. So most people need to be educated on the importance and the impact that donations have in the society through webinars, through blog posts, through infographics, those images where you have washing your hands or an expectant mother sleeping under a mosquito net being done on social media, e-books, writing an e-book on why female genital mutilation should end. So instead of going to social media directly, asking people for donation and getting the negativity, what if you tell them, I have this e-book or you just have this blog post that explains the importance of joining hands and fighting female genital mutilation. And in that blog, there is the donate now battle. They are educated. They are aware as to why they should participate. If we look at Black Lives Matter, in 2020, they raised $90 million. And the average donation was $30. How was this possible? Black Lives Matter had to do a lot. You see that time of this guy by the name Floyd, he died. The police killed him. And so much content was published on why Black Lives Matter. There is this other girl who talks about environment. She's talking about environment. She's empowering us on why we should care about the environment. So if you want to support her, you donate to her knowing you're donating to protect the environment. But she doesn't come this way. Donate for us to be able to protect the environment. But she is talking about why it's important to take care of our environment. And she creates a big following, the same way with what Black Lives Matter, creates a big following that now believes in you, understand what you do. And even if they have $30, they are willing to give it to you. And that $30 become a lot, a lot. And now it can be able to support projects in the US for Black people so that Black people can have an impact in the society. So when this content in form of webinar posts, in social media, blog posts on your website, we have webinars, e-books, surveys. When they are created, holding them back is not important. But distributing them is what makes everything possible. It's what gets on people's phones in front of their social media feeds and they are going through and now they are able to see your content or they search something on such engines and they find you and you empower them. So this content needs to be distributed through a website. So if I think of Black Lives Matter, I'll definitely go and type blacklivesmatter.com. If I hear Leona just a disability, I'll go type Leona just a disability.com. If I don't get a.com, I might, I'm likely to find something else that is near to them. So a website will help you distribute your content in form of blogs, infographics, and also have a newsletter where people can enter so you can be sending them and email that will be educating them regarding on why Black Lives Matter, why fighting FGM is important and why building schools in Africa, in a place like Mozambique or in a place like Kenya or in a place like Turkana, Kenya is important. So you help them understand why it's important instead of going like give us donations so that you can do this, you educate them first and now they become your following. Social media posts are very important and I'll give a good example and then we have such engines Google being able to be found on Google when someone types why does Black Lives Matter and they find you on Google and now you're educating them, they will subscribe to your school of thought. But even if you have the best content and you're not, you cannot be found, you cannot reach people, it doesn't make sense having it just somewhere kept, it needs to be distributed. And the other one which is email sending emails to people who have subscribed to your newsletter. So let's look at a nice website like Black Lives Matter, how they distribute their content. So you see I just went straight and typed Black Lives Matter and I don't have a lot of distractions, I have news. So if I want to look at news regarding Black Lives Matter, I'll definitely go to there and they have gone or they have, they have always gone and done a shop to help them do even more fundraising by selling t-shirts. So if you go to blacklivesmatter.com and you click shop, you will be able to purchase some products from them like a t-shirt. So when people come to see your content, they're able to see, oh my God, they have a shop and if they don't feel like donating, you can see how visible the donate now button is, they're like, let me shop something from them. So that way you're even able to raise donations for your nonprofit. You can raise by selling something all by them donating and they go to news, they start educating themselves, they see the latest news like how Jesse Smollett's trial, you know, the Jesse Smollett trial, this guy from, is it called Empire? That show by Cookie, Cookie someone, they are a music family. So the guy is having a trial, he was having a trial last year and he was convicted, he's Black and he's a member of the LGBT community. So they're trying to tell us what's happening. So and that's a very good way of acquiring donation through content, okay. So if someone here's Black Lives Matter, why do I want to matter? Why do I want to care? They go search your website, they come, they start educating themselves, they even come and start drooling, they see a shop, they like a t-shirt, they buy it, they come click donate, you never know. So another good example, another good way of distributing content is through posts on social media, doing a social media post. So you can see a good example is World Health Organization and you can do this through a Facebook page or your own Facebook profile. So you can see that how many women do not breastfeed for as long as they would. This is how we all support breastfeeding mothers anytime, anywhere and they use very nice images that show a doctor or a nurse all these, showing women breastfeeding. So when you create nice social media with very nice graphics that are engaging and are easy to read because you want anybody to relate to this image. Anybody, even if I'm not going to read through, I'm going to be looking at it and I'm saying this is a doctor, this is that, this is that and it becomes so easy for people to engage with your content. So they become part of it. They now understand why women should be breastfeeding more to their children instead of saying donate to us so that we can help women breastfeed. What if you create content and tell them the importance of allowing any woman to be able to breastfeed their children as long as they want. So the other way of distributing this content in form of videos, in form of posts, blog posts, in form of webinars, workshops is through search engine like Google, a search engine like YouTube where you go and put you and upload your video and people search topics related to FGM and they find you there. So stop FGM in Africa or someone asks Google why should I participate in fighting FGM in Africa. The first people you find are actually Plan International. Okay, and they are talking about the seven ways to end FGM. So what happens when you go to read this type of anatica here, you will find what they are talking about seven ways to end FGM and why you should join this movement of stopping FGM in Africa by donating some cash, by donating your skills, by donating or even becoming a board member of probably Plan International and inference decisions because if you want people to participate in your NGO, you want they either donate, they either volunteer skills that make sense not to volunteer skills that seriously. If you are building a school in Africa and someone comes and say hey I'm a carpenter, I can create desks, are you guys going to need someone to create desks? I don't have money but I can volunteer my skill of being a carpenter, I will work on 100 desks. That's a very good skill, but someone comes and tells you hey I know nothing, I'm just looking for somewhere I can be. That person doesn't have so much value so they will be at your bottom list so you will want to attract people who are probably going on vacation. If I say hey I want to go to vacation, in Kenya what is a non-profit activity I can do? I can go and work with these women on doing their beadwork and then I can help them sell this beadwork, I can volunteer to teach them how to sell this beadwork on the internet because I'm in digital marketing. So my volunteer skill makes sense to them but if I don't have a skill what am I volunteering? Definitely nothing. So they donate, they volunteer, they become a board member who is probably going to influence. If you look at Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation of board members you can imagine Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. You can imagine the influence Warren has. I'm just giving an example. So if you can have an influential person in your board and they're going to influence so much to your non-profit being impactful, you can bring in them by reading your posts, your blogs, your anything on social media, on Google, on your website, your emails. So if you have a website and you cannot be found on Google because you don't know how to work on such engine optimization, you don't have fans to even hire somebody to do SEO, you can opt for Google for non-profits. And Google for non-profit, your NGO needs to be registered. If you're in Kenya it will work. If you're in Nigeria, I believe, South Africa. I don't know other countries that Google for non-profit accept in Africa but if you're interested in Google for non-profit and have not mentioned, if you're from those three countries, Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa, if you're not from those three countries, you can just go to Google in search. Does Google accept my country Uganda for Google for non-profit? It will give you an answer. So what is Google for non-profit? It allows you to, it gives you $10,000 in ad grant every single month. And with this ad grant, you can tell Google, I want you to show my non-profit in countries anywhere in the world and rank me and it's likely to rank you among number one, two, three on specific topics. So you need to have a website to be able to qualify and when you qualify, they will allow you to have an email connected to your website, one email address for free on Google Workspace. So what Google will do is that it will be, it will be showing your ads, your advertisements for non-profit every single month. Anywhere you tell it, if you tell it show my non-profit, advertise my non-profit in the US, in Canada, in Australia, in Kenya, in South Africa, whichever way it will and people will be able to interact with your content on Google easily and that way you can be able to share your school of thought to influence people to follow your movement and donate to your course, all volunteer, very important skills. Another way to distribute your content is actually through Airbnb and Airbnb doesn't charge the 20 per cent, it weighs the 20 per cent for non-profit. So you can see a Kibera non-profit founder gives a tour in Kibera to people. So if your non-profit is for helping fight FGM and you are having a shelter at a place where these women can go when they run away and they have opportunities, they have income generating opportunities like basketry, like things that they do. You can do Airbnb experiences virtually as a non-profit and people from all over the world can watch from their smartphones. My smartphone is somewhere here. So smartphone from my phone and be like, hey, in July, I'm visiting South Africa. What are some of the non-profit activities I can do for two days? Or I'm going to Zimbabwe, so I see a school is being built. So I sign up for the Airbnb experience. They show me some of the things they do through Airbnb experience. Please go learn Airbnb experience, how powerful it is. It's actually you do things virtually. So I sit here, you're in South Africa, you're showing meetings with other probably 10 attendees and we have paid, by the way, we pay. You explain things to us. Then if I'm coming to visit Zimbabwe, I'm like, do I still want to go to this place? Did I like it? Is it volunteering my skill after the virtual experience? I'm like, yes or no. But you helped raise funding through a virtual experience on Airbnb. So if you're doing basketry or beadwork with children with disability, you're helping them with kitchen garden dressmaking. So you give this virtual experience on Airbnb. And if I'm in Canada, I get to decide, do I want to come and take a tour one day or do I just come to Kenya and go to another non-profit that showed me something better as a tour in Kenya? So yes, that's it. Then the other way of distributing content is through email. And if you have a website, it's very important to encourage people to sign up for your newsletter, to keep up to date with the latest news and events. So you keep sharing with them everything that's latest, everything that's important to you and important to them. So well, I come to the end of my presentation. Thank you so much. And on the chat, I can see like there is someone asking a question. No, not asking a question, but saying, wow, Airbnb virtual experience, that's new to me. Yes, Airbnb virtual experience is so powerful. Do it for your nonprofit. You're going to be able to distribute content. You're going to be able to distribute your school of thought, your ideology to people who want to participate. Because first of all, for them to participate, they have to pay and they'll pay $15, $20 for the experience. And you never know whom you're talking to. They might go and talk to someone and tell them, hey, you know, I saw this in Kenya, you could be interested. I saw this lady in South Africa. I saw this lady from Nigeria. She's talking about this, this nonprofit thing you can donate to her. You never know how you're going to get your donations. So for me, be everywhere, distribute your content as much as possible. And thank you so much for your time. You can ask me a question. If you have any, I will definitely answer. We have 15 more minutes because I had said I'll present for one hour. You can unmute yourself and ask a question. I see we are two. We're just three of us. We are Dennis and we are Kabelik Bible Foundation. Thank you so much. Hi. Hi. Thank you. Thank you so much, Jen, for this. I just decided to pop into the call because I felt that this is an area that has been of interest to me for some time, but I have not had really the exact, exact thing that I need to do to make my my nonprofit a bit more visible. Yes. And first of all, I would request that if you can share with us the PowerPoint you've used, there is a section that I missed, especially on the types of content and the rest. I would really appreciate it. Okay. Yes. Let me, have you seen my email? Send me an email and I'll be able to forward. Maybe you can post your email address on the chat because I missed it. I think it's there. If you go on to the chat, Dennis, you'll be able to see that. I came in late, so I can't see the previous chats. Oh, you can't see. Oh, let me, let me, let me have a share. I see it now. Now, a question for you, maybe two or three questions. About the Airbnb, what gadgets would you require to have in order to, to share that content? You need, so a nice, most NGOs have a camera. NGOs have work, they do have, the NGOs I used to work, most NGOs they have work, they have a camera. And even we have smartphones, very nice smartphones nowadays. So you use a Zoom, they usually show you to use Zoom. And you make sure you sign up as a nonprofit. Don't sign up as you and it should be registered. And when you, you sign up, they don't, you don't pay them the 20%. It's not deducted, you receive your whole money. So you just need a camera and probably a very nice microphone. Just focus on your voice, not the background noises. Okay. And then you share your experience. Okay. You tell them nice things about your nonprofit. And then you share your school of thought, your ideology, your philosophy, why they need to participate. And you know, if you can even have 15 participants even per week, and they are, you're charging $20 or even 10. That is $150 you have raised for your nonprofit that one week. And you never know what they might, you will end up giving them your website. They will see the donate now button. They will be able to view and decide if they want to donate. And when they come to Kenya, do they want to participate? Or if you are dealing with children, can they bring some toys they have had? If they are doctors, do they participate in your mission for, for medical services? Okay. So, you know, these people are abroad and they are planning to come to visit a particular country like Kenya. Okay. So they are looking for experiences as they look for experiences like, like, which is the nice leg to go like to Canada, they are shown how it looks. They have interest in going to that area. They get a virtual tour. What if you're in Turkana and when they are looking for things in Turkana, you appear on Airbnb. And you are offering those virtual tours for non-profit on bid to support Turkana women or to support, do something nice to the Turkana community. You get it. So they end up subscribing for your virtual tour and getting engaged. And you never know, they could even order a product on your, on their website for the non-profit thing. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. You know, you opened my eyes on things that I had not even thought about. But I just want to pick your brain from the two of you. It's easy for a non-profit that works with tangible things. When you work with children, when you help women, you can touch, you can see. Yes. The challenge that I have experienced is we do not work with anything tangible. And I tell you what we do at the Catholic Bible Foundation. We are part of the Catholic Church in South Africa. And our vision is to help people have a personal, a living, a dynamic relationship with scripture. So what are the tools of our trade as a non-profit organization? The tools of our trade as an NPO is the word of God, which is scripture. And anybody can say, ah, I can read my Bible at home. But what we do is we are bringing an experience. We are making you have that connection and relationship to see the deeper riches that scripture can offer you, that the word of God can offer you to become a better person. Until you have come to our workshop, it becomes just an ordinary, ah, why should I go to an NPO or we'll talk about the Bible. I can buy a Bible. I can read it. I go to church. Just from what I have told you, what do you think are the things that we can do to make it tangible? You are, it's tangible already. You have Bible studies. You want to help people know how to read the scriptures and understand it. And not only that, how does going to the word of God, how does you reading the Bible make you a better person? What if I'm depressed? It will make me a better person when I overcome depression. Exactly. What if I feel like ends are not meeting? What if I feel so lonely and so down like things are not working out? I always go down to buy knees and pray and read the Bible. Because you, you, you are, you are right. But now if I go to an A, B and B, what do I show them? You do the Bible study thing. What I'm getting is that actually, as you do your Bible sessions, you can have them go live on A, B and B so that people are seeing how you're doing it and maybe how you're using the Bibles, the ones that you have. Even I'm thinking in terms of going to the community and having a Bible kind of distribution and showing that on A, B and B, that on this day, we had an event where we reached out to a community that has not had access to a Bible. So we are sharing all Bibles with them and reading with them and, you know, telling them about the Word of God. Yes. Let me tell you something. You see on A, B and B experiences, there is so much diversity that you would be like, oh my God, I will fit in. Let me tell you some of the weirdest thing there is. You see those bondages, domain tricks and submissiveness. There is, there is even a dungeon to those activities. Two, you see this, I tell you the future. They offer A, B and B experience. So you can offer an A, B and B experience. Anybody can offer. I can offer an A, B and B experience on marketing. I can offer an A, B and B experience on talking about Giraffe. Even just going to Giraffe Center and showing them about Giraffe. They do. What if somebody wants to know when I come to South Africa, where can I go for Bible studies and how is the experience first before I even go there? They'll come to you. Lovely, lovely. Thank you very much. I'm having interest to know how these Catholic Bible Foundation seminars work, for example. And are you using the Catholic Bible or are you using just the normal Bible that we know? I'll be able to log in once you have an A, B and B experience. Oh, all right. Okay. Yeah. Jane, I wanted to know when it comes to now doing that content, what I'm getting, it has to be live, right? Should it be live? Live. It has to go online. Yes, that is now live content. That is live content. It's like how we are doing it. This is live content I'm sharing. Exactly. Now you will be distributing it through A, B and B. Yeah. So I'm looking at a situation like in our country, Kenya, where if I have a camera and go out there just recording, there are those kind of regulatory and other kind of things. How do people go about that? Like you see on the streets nowadays in Nairobi, youth go to the streets, most of them around the weekend. But they have problems with the city county government not allowing them to take photos, live pictures and how do people go about that? That one I cannot advise because I never create content outside this room, my bedroom. That one will be misleading you. But the type of video thing I'm talking about on A, B and B, you are in this vicinity, you are in this area whereby you have children with disability. You are teaching them meeting, you are teaching them beadwork, you are teaching them gardening, you are teaching them some things they can do. Some of them even are learning computer and they have autism. They have don't syndrome. So what you do because you are within this environment, these people you keep sharing with them that type of content every day because they will be different. So somebody is from South Africa, the other one is in Brazil, the other one is in US, like three from US, five from Canada, others are from Europe, others are from Australia, New Zealand, others are from the Philippines. They will always be different. They are looking for things they can do when they travel to that country. You get it. So you appear there, give them an experience of empowering a child with disability, okay? How do you empower a child with disability by giving them skills? Like knitting, like computer literacy, like even maybe you even take helping them to a point that now they can get into the normal school system. People will love this, they gravitate towards this, your school of thought, so they become part of it. So if every week, 15, 15, 15, so your work will be clicking the same button, playing the same, showing the same thing, the same routine, like the same way I would sit here, keep repeating this video again and again, but it has to be life. You don't, if you want to mess up yourself, they want to hear you the way you hear me. Don't record, don't do them a recording, be live, participate. Yeah, you see, like the Catholic Bible, you see, there are so many people who want to do, to learn yoga. So when I come to South Africa, how is the yoga experience in this particular, with this particular yogi? So they sign up for the yoga session and they follow the year instruction and they say, oh, if I come to South Africa, I can have the year service. So you keep repeating the same thing. It's like me doing the same thing every day. Now, what I change is my, this one and my top. Yeah. I get it. That's good. And I'm just thinking, as you are speaking on this virtual experience on Airbnb, we have to play around maybe with the infographics. You know, the ones that I saw on the World Health Organization that you gave us as an example, because we have got strict, we have got strict laws. We are not allowed to show children's faces without the school or their parents. We can't. You'll be in serious, serious trouble. So I'm just thinking the best way for our situation would to use infographics and then talk like a live presentation and say, and ask for concern and say, we have been to this school. This is what we did. They were children using different pictures and images, not of children, because then we'll be in serious trouble. Okay. So, you know, you're the one who understands your area. You will know how to customize everything for you to not break the laws and to help the person behind the camera enjoy it like the way I think. I hope you're enjoying. Oh, I am. I am. But you see, I customize this experience for you, for people who are non-profits. If I was to talk to people who are psychologists, it would be something very different. Indeed. Because now you are aware of the things you can do to customize it and now read the terms and conditions for Airbnb or non-profit on what you can and you can't do. What about Canva.com? So Canva.com is what you use for infographics. It's a free tool and it accepts. It accepts non-profit. It allows them to use it for free. Okay. What does it allow you? It's a graphic design software. Yeah. I've used Canva, but they would ask you to buy certain things. So how do you use it as a non-profit? You just go to there. You just move. Ah, okay. Wow. Wow. You know what? Thank you so much. You know what? And you know what? There was a lot of things that we have been paying for with very limited financial resources, which now I can go and make those savings and direct them and channel them for other things. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Like this Canva for non-profit, the Airbnb, the Google for non-profit, I didn't even know Yeah. But if with Google for non-profit, if you are a faith-based organization, they don't accept. If you are a school, they don't accept you. They want non-profits, registered non-profits. We are a faith-based organization, but we are a registered non-profit. Okay. Fine. They won't have a problem with you. So what you do with Google for non-profit, TechSoup has to verify you. Then you just go and apply for the funding. It goes 24 hours, you have it, but it will not be sent in your account. You will be able to do advertisements to people all over the world. When people search for Bible something, you appear. Yeah. So if people search for support children with disability in Kenya, you appear. All right. Okay. Thanks. And then how do you use? How do you use? Because I have been struggling to see how we can use Instagram and yeah, mainly Instagram. Well, I'm in digital marketing and I specialize in search engines and email marketing. Not social media. Okay. All right. You see? You see? You see? That's, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm asking about, you know, you're talking of some, you're giving examples that are coming from the segment that I'm working in. My organization works with children with special needs. Yeah. So the examples that you are giving about are really striking. It's striking enough for me and brings up a very practical, you know, reality on me. I'm located in Nairobi, Utawala area. I'm looking for a nonprofit that can volunteer my scheme. There is a nonprofit that irritates me. They sit here in the supermarket and when you're moving, they're like, can you donate? They call you and they have told them I want to volunteer in your non-profit and do for you digital marketing. I'm here. We strike a deal. You start with the two of us, question in South Africa. Then you have a footprint. Then you have a footprint in East Africa. Hold on. In East Africa, you are volunteering. In South Africa, you are volunteering. No, no. Me, I don't know anything to do with. We need you in the Catholic Bible Foundation. But anything to do with like, I don't know. I don't know how to contribute in the whole thing, but I know exactly what to do in an area of female genital mutilation, children with disability and sanitary and menstrual health. I know so much because that's in refugees because my university report I did about refugees. It's called what? In working with non-profit, I used to work with children with disability. So we would go there to work with children in St. Patrick's Dika. We would go to work with children in Dika school for the blind. On my field tour, we went to Lyonad Chesa Disability in Kisumu and SOS Children's Home. I gained so much interest in children. So you are welcome. Now you need to understand how as Catholics, we can make a difference in people's lives using scripture. I can. It's good to be open up for a new opportunity, for a new thing. But I want to be a volunteer and a recognized one. Not like this, not like you volunteer without being part of that non-profit. Your part of role is there even if it's volunteering. If they are putting their team on the website, you are part of the team. You're not left out. I'm assigning you that immediately because actually one of the things, why I came into this, I've been shopping around to redo my website. It's one of the horrible ones. It's not the best. And also develop some content, a lot of it that we can disseminate. But now how to do that content, how to disseminate it has been my challenge. Of course, I've went around asking people and sometimes I'm given a fee note, a quotation kind of, if you want this, we need this much. But I don't have that money. If it's your website on WordPress, I will work on it. You don't have to pay me a volunteer and do that. So long as our company is. Wow, great. I really appreciate it. It was nice that we appear on this call, the three of us only. Thank you. So I can be working one day for you, another day for them. I volunteer like eight days a month, a few hours, like five and that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. At least we are much further than you are. And we really, really appreciate. So in terms of digital marketing, what space are you looking at? What areas are you looking at in digital marketing? Google for non-profit and even for my customers, my clients, I don't do everything for them. I do specifically. No, no, no, no, no. Actually, we prefer to be shown how to fish. Exactly. Because if you show us, that's our philosophy. If you show us how to fish, you would have given us a lifeline. We don't like the fish. Yes. Yeah. So I will engage you further and I am very sorry. I have to leave. What is your number? Have you put it on the chat? In my email I have. I will ask Elijah to send the recording to you. I'll send him the email. That is fine. Three, two, six, seven, zero. Let me just repeat it. It's plus two, five, four, seven, two, double six, three, two, six, seven, zero. And your email is J. Yes. Yeah. And we didn't get to see you. We didn't get to see you. I am in pajamas. I will see you next time. That's the beauty of working from home. I'm working from home. We did that meeting. My hair was like this. When I saw the camera, my hair was like this. Because of the pandemic, I'm working from home. The beauty about it is I wake up, I bath, I shower. I don't have to change my pajamas. I am laid back. Next time when we meet, which will be very soon. Your first name is in Jambi. Am I right? Yes. Oh, Jambi. Jambi. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for correcting me. Jambi. So thank you very much. I have to leave. I wish we could continue. And I thank all those people who arranged for this presentation. I have left lent a lot. And thank you for the offer to volunteer. I will take it up as soon as possible. Thank you very much. Unfortunately, I have to leave. And Dennis, would you like to share your email address? You never know? Yes, yes, yes. Let me drop it in here at Gmail. How do you pronounce your second name? My surname is Mogi. Oh, it's Mogi at Gmail.com. All right. Lovely. I will certainly be in touch. I'm sorry I have to leave without us finishing off. But thank you very much and God bless. Yeah, yeah. So in Jambi, what I'll do, I think you are God sent. What I'll do with a catch up from here so that we see what you can start working on. Before you even continue, I would prefer we start working from February because so I can finish some work I have on January. And then we can start working on February because if I tell you I'll start working now. I have three websites. So no pay attention. Yeah, I finish what I'm doing and then I come to you. Okay, okay. Yes. I will visit your place. Yeah. Then we can share much more of other things that you do because we also coordinate a network of organizations working in the disability sector called Action for Children with Disabilities. And all those guys that you are mentioning are our members, Selena Cheshire, Handicap International, who are working in the refugees, all that. Many, yes, we are so Kenya. They are within our network. So perhaps once we happen to meet, I can take you through the whole landscape of what I'm currently doing. Yeah, we are going to meet. We have to meet. Thank you so much, Dennis, for coming. Thank you so much. Nice time. We're continuing to chat, right, but we will start on February. I can't wait to start working on you. Bye, thank you. Thank you. Have a good day. Good day.