 All right, everybody. Thanks for joining Jenkins advocacy and outreach sick meeting today is September the eighth. And on the agenda. I have a G sock update DevOps world discussion. And I think our biggest discussion will be on on October fast. Anything else that we should add to the agenda. All right. No, I'm good with that. So I had an action item from when Gavin joined us for this call to do a monthly Jenkins newsletter. So I have initiated the form for that. So basically what we want to do for it to do is to look like this. So Gavin gave us the example that this is what matrix does on a weekly basis but what we're going to do is we'll start out with a monthly basis. And we're just going to, you know, just pretty much get an update from each of the sick teams for, you know, get their update at the end of every month and post it or push it live via blog via blog and their discourse channel. Yeah, just posting monthly updates begin every month and I'm shooting for the first one to go out in October that first week of October. But I think it's pretty straightforward with the example that Gavin gave us so we'll try that and then we'll see how it goes and then we'll tweak as we go along as we get more experience under our belt. So I had received or I had a link. Oh, I saw I see the link to that form. So I completed that for as the doc SIG, but I think we would want Kevin Martins to do it as the doc SIG so we need to ask him. And Bruno, I think you'd be a good one to do the platform sake. So we may want to have Bruno answer the form there. In my case, I'm not sure that the form is an ideal format because I'm much more accustomed to writing things with Mark up and embedding hike up hyperlinks, but it's worth trying and then we see what where we go from there Alyssa. Okay. So I had on here, Mark, so we have the advocacy and outreach SIG infrastructure documentation. And I thought it might be a good idea for us to get a governance update as well. Yeah, and platform, and then UX, am I missing anything else. I think those are the active ones right now. So choices and and certainly the SIGs that you listed are good and governance makes a lot of sense as well. Absolutely. Okay. Just adding they're depending on the season. They're temporary SIGs like the GSOC one, or the special short lived. Right, right. And maybe maybe we put that under events or under advocacy and outreach. Yeah, maybe that is a just a subtopic of advocacy and we make sure that they covered I agree with John Mark. You're right. Yeah, definitely. I think it would go under advocacy and outreach and events is like a sub bullet of that. Thank you, Mark. So a request to promote Bay Area meetup decline or not related to Jenkins. Is this the one that you put in mark. I just barely added that. I just wanted to note that we had received a request from somebody hey please promote a CICD meetup but it really had no, no relationship to Jenkins, not even just no direct relationship it made no reference to Jenkins it had no indication that Jenkins was was going to be called at all. And so I thought, for me and with Gavin Mogan's agreement we said let's not promote it. Yeah, right. And it didn't look linked to the CDF either. No. Right. No, it's, it's with armory. And yeah they are not linked with CDF I don't think. But basically it was general CI CD, come eat sushi with us and talk about CI CD. I didn't felt I also felt that it didn't have anything that specific or call out to Jenkins. So yeah and I think we would open a can of worms if we allow for support this request, because we will eventually get more requests like this really make sense. In the ASOCK update, we are scheduling for our final, final presentation via John for October, although John Mark is struggling with the four project contributors to come to finalize a date it is challenging because the contributors are back in school. So we will attempt for October. So fingers crossed that we will have a date for for October. I want to hold a job for them to have a public presentation and them handing over the bait and or to talk to the future generation. Contributors so we'll hold it and we work hard to have a place and I want them to present it live, rather than just recording them. Yeah, we could. I think they did a fantastic job last time so why not this is this is the closure so it would be a good way to go out. And then we will follow up with their blogs, each a blog for each project after the after the Jenkins online meetup. So again we're shooting for October for that. DevOps world, the contributor summit of the final almost final pretty much final agenda is now available and I pushed it out via the discourse channel. And if there's anything else that anybody wants to chime in add to that please just go ahead and chime in but I think we have a really good outline for what the day looks like. And then contributing to the open source workshop so I will let either John Mark Bruno or Mark you talk to this because I know you put in a lot of time and effort into it. Yeah so we've got a we've got a 90 minute workshop that DevOps world will be hosting on that will help people make specific useful contributions to the plugin of their choice. We've selected a group of 25 plus plugins, and we're preparing answers for them so that if they can't do it, they'll be able to look at our answers. So the idea is, they start, they try it. And if they're successful, great. And if not, they look in the back of the book, and there is the answer and they say, Oh, that's what you did or oh that's what you did. We'll help them. And as a result of this there will be a new tutorial posted to www.jankins.io focused on helping developers do these kinds of small improvements, small but valuable improvements to Jenkins plugins. Yep. Great. Look forward to people joining us in that session. Yep. We'll be very lucky to have all three of you there. It will be fun. Yeah. Okay, so the next topic is is October fast so Jean mark or mark I will hand this over to you. Well I can I can start and then ask for marks. So the first thing is October fast currently everybody is eagerly waiting for the starter to pull the trigger on the race to say so there was a first enigmatic tweets from October fast with just eyes is looking. Everything prepared, but there's no official announcement yet everybody's waiting and asking about that. So, we are preparing. We are thinking getting everything ready for it, but we're not going out in the world with any announcement or, or whatever. So, what's been discussed here are just ideas that we've been working on internally as soon as a starter pulls a trigger for the race. Then we'll start to come out with explanations blog posts and several initiatives around that. Mark, do you want to add something on this introduction. Okay, so the, the, I think the areas of interest topics or areas of interest bullets are a good one for people to understand. There really are at least two different ways that people can contribute to hacktoberfest that will help Jenkins. One is as a Java developer, where I'm interested in doing Java development. I'm a student at the university, I'm a high school student I'm experienced with Java or not. In there I think our best, our best path forward is use this improve a plug into developer tutorial and guide new contributors there saying hey choose these will need to identify which plugins they can submit to because people are willing to review their request. And in this link here you'll see a link to 25 plugins that john mark Bruno and I you don't need to click the link Alyssa it's it's, it just opens a list of plugin names it's not very helpful, but the, the, the hat what was assigned the hacktoberfest topic to them, so that new contributors can click that and choose one. And then they follow the steps in the tutorial, and the end result is a useful poll request that can be reviewed by people who care about and are willing to review that poll request. So the Java developer story I think is a pretty good one here. Now, now there are other other stories this one is is a simple story there are other more complicated stories that we could consider right now that was my first thought. We did the other idea what we'll do anyway so this is very good access to try to get as much attention and energy on it the other thing that will do when we start is remind every plugin maintainer and or core to pinpoint or prepare the buffet of work that can be done for newbies but also experienced Java developer and get them get them going. So, we'll talk to the maintainers to say we're here. It's, it's part of growing the community teaching people new things that they get prepared I like the analogy of the buffet. Continuing on the analogy of the buffet a big effort that we're also going to do with the maintainers is to actively weed out spam like pull request that just annoying distracting and somewhere disrespectful for the for the work. So there will be communications aimed at maintainers that are an active role in there because it's creating the buffet but also teaching the people how to discover these new food so you can build a complete analogy. So, this is for the developer. Mark, there were some good ideas that have been discussed in the documentation sake I believe this is a very good very good topic for people. Right and so the documentation is is this sort of another area and another facet of October fest contribution documentation contributions are most often even a lower bar than Java contributions. Right, you can you can do documentation contributions and have no development experience whatsoever. So the doc SIG has been going through and will continue to go through throughout the month of September, looking to identify things that are good first issues. And those are really intended for people with no Jenkins experience. In addition they're highlighting things with the hacktoberfest label that are biased towards people with Jenkins experience. There are some where hey I want to contribute I've been a Jenkins user for a while. I can use my skills to help that. And that's a different level of contribution, but it requires that preschool and if we get novices attempting to do those they're more likely to generate spam or to generate non useful content. And then, as a specific the docs migration page in the developer tutorial is actually specific to documentation, but it has some of the same challenges is hiding under the Java developer topic that it needs to be done against a plug in repository where the plug in maintainer is actively maintaining the plug in. And many of the plugins that are actively maintained have already done this transition. Yep. But there's still how you say that laggers know people that that are. Yeah, there's like it's just like it's just a word. There are still nine over 900 plugins that need to have this transition done. Oh, but that over 900 plugins is mostly the plugins that are in the behalf of the Jenkins plugins pool that are have small installations or relatively low usage. But worthwhile contributions just to streamline the base clean it up and and making everything ready for the next iteration so it's not lost word work at all even if they're just a couple of so so the documentation part. Now I'm selling here but I'm super enthusiastic about the different things. In the October fest now we're going to communicate about that once the race starts so we we we preparing we have ideas we we're preparing the communications but we wait for the start. There's no sign that it will not take place. It will take place that probably checking rules. Back to you Alyssa. Okay, the next item CDF advocacy increasing I think mark this is yours so I know that Roxanne shared with me that she posted Kevin's blog, the Jenkins 2.361.1. And she also said that she would promote it as well so anything else that you need to add to this. Yeah so so and I liked how they framed it. It's Jenkins turns 18. Jenkins has reached legal adulthood. Congratulations everyone in the United States Jenkins could vote if we're a person. So, the good I've seen the seen the tweets very good, very good. Now the additional reason I put this on here is that I just forwarded to Alyssa, an email message from our copied Alyssa on an email message from Michelle Martinville, copied Fatih did your man she have some additional promotional efforts that CDF is doing, they're proposing a video series. And they've asked us to be part of that video series. I think their plan is to actually do the presentation in November with recording in late October, or yeah so late October or early November. So I've, they asked me some questions I offered them some suggested topics. I conspicuously mentioned john mark and Bruno on some of those topics congratulations to both of you. Yes, there are topics that are already familiar to you and so. No topics are decided yet, but, but the conversation has started in November is the likely sharing of those with recording to happen in probably early November because I responded to Michelle that I'm out of the office until between October 10 to October 27. She said, Mark, we think we want you on the broadcast so we'll, what if we did them after you get back. So she was okay with that too. So any questions on the CDF advocacy efforts. Yeah. So I'll follow up on that with Michelle just to make sure that we that they have what they need and we stay on task with regards to dates. Great. Thank you. Thanks very much. I was just a naive question. A little bit out of topic but are the CDF advocacy meetings, did they start again or did I miss the invite or. No, they haven't started. Oh, they they still I did ask the question but it wasn't answered. Right. They did answer my question with regards to bevy and meetup. At this time, they will, we will continue on with meetup, keep meetup until they decide what is important to everybody before switching over to bevy because bevy is much more expensive. And we need to get all of our ducks in a row before we transition there. But as of now it's still meetup.com and of course, you know, zoom we're still going to keep it. Yeah, and nothing more about the meetings. Regular meeting. Yeah. Well, I have enough to keep me busy. Don't worry about that. I didn't want to miss important. Yeah. I don't know if that should be part of this meeting, but I applied to a few online conferences lately to talk about Jenkins. So maybe I'll be able to do it. I don't know the answers yet. So most of them are online conferences and also a few conferences that will take place in the real world next early next year. So we'll see hopefully I'll be able to talk about Jenkins outside of my office. Yeah, that'd be wonderful. Yeah, keep us posted. If you do get accepted, we'd love to add you on the on the calendar for the events calendar for Jenkins. Okay, good. Okay, so we can stop the recording. I need to stop the recording. You're the one.