 Now that you do, I had conveniently removed all that angle, just kept it for putting out where our posts are, not commenting, giving opinion, nothing, thank you for joining us on a brand new episode of 420g as we are in day two of our Euro coverage. And we'll be talking about the games that transpired last night, that is day two of the European Championships 2021. Three games in total, the first game was played between Wales and Switzerland. The second game was Denmark, Finland and the third game was Belgium beating Russia by a 3-0 margin. But if any of you watched the games yesterday, all of you would know that in respect to whatever the results were in either of these games, the results didn't really matter because it was that kind of a day. It was that kind of a day where someone's life was on the line, if I may say. I'm talking about the Denmark and Finland game where at the end of the first half, Danish midfielder Christian Ericsson collapsed unopposed. It's key to know that he had collapsed unopposed and that's the scary part. As soon as he collapsed on the field, medics were called, game was stopped and the Danish medical team head also came on after the game. He came on and said that when they went there, Christian Spulse was there. He was fine. He was being kept up in a position by his captain, Simon Keier. So as the proper airflow is continuing and his head was vertical. And after that in between his pulse went, by that time the medical teams had come and then they tried to of course resuscitate him and bring him back to life. And play was halted for close to 20 minutes. 20 minutes play was halted in between that the Danish players had formed a circle around Christian and the medical team so as to respect the privacy of the moment. And after about 10 minutes of this incident playing out the Icelandic team was, sorry, the Finnish team was sent back into the tunnel. And there after about 10 minutes after Christian was taken in a stretcher back into the inside the stadium and play was suspended for close to two hours. Close to two hours and then came the good news. The good news being from Christian's father who had spoken to Christian Ericsson's agent who put out the news that everyone was waiting for. Is that he's stable. He's breathing fine and he is now being looked after by proper. He's been given proper medical care in a hospital nearby the stadium in Copenhagen. So the result at the end of the day of what really transpired as a scary, scary evening, whether you're sitting in India, whether you're sitting in any part of the world watching on television. It's difficult to watch all of this and it's difficult to talk about all of this. But at the end of the day, Christian is fine. So that is a good thing. But it's not the first time that something like this has happened. If you jog your memory back to November 2004, jog your memory back to a Federation Cup final between Mohan Bagan and Tempo. The result at the end wasn't what transpired last evening. And that day, it was a young Brazilian footballer who played for Tempo Sports Club who lost his life. And two people who know this incident really well. We have Jairi Basu with us who was in the ground at that time in November 2004, covering the game as a journalist. And also Ishwak Ahmed, who was a member of that Tempo Sports Club team that lost one of their, you know, he was a solid striker. He was so good at what he did. He was part of that team at Tempo Sports Club. My name is Arjun. I'm also joined by Siddharth Ani today on the show. Gentlemen, today we're not going to be talking about Christian because that's already played out and now we're waiting for a diagnosis as to what happened. But we'll also talk about, you know, this incident. And since we have two of you, Jairi and Ishwak. Jairi, I'll start with you. If you could narrate us what happened that day. It was the Kanthirva in Bangalore, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, yes, yes. And how it panned out after that? See, in that year's Federation Cup, one thing was very clear that Christian Ajunia was hogged the landlatch. Because, previous year, he played for the Spengal and played very well. And he was taken by Tempo. And actually, what happened two years prior to that, I think two years back or one year back in Chennai, Monmugan beat Tempo in the final in the Federation Cup. And that was on the strength of two foreigners, that is Bereto and Seriki. They scored goals and Tempo lost in Spengal. And this year, that year, we are talking about 2004. Everybody knew that Tempo was going to win because of Christian Ajunia. Christian Ajunia was a very good form. So, day before the final, they were in a hotel, I remember, just behind the gate road. A very tall hotel, I think, 8-10 floor hotel there. So, not only me, a lot of journalists went to meet him. So, he talked to us. Later on, we came to know he was not well at that point of time, but which we cannot confirm. So, what happened on that day? Tempo was the better team and Tempo was leading by a goal. In the 78th minute of the match, I remember it very distinctly. Because I noted it down. 78th minute of the match, Monmugan, of course, was going all out for equaliser. And on a counter-attack, Tempo came back. And there was a position when the ball came, when Cristiano and Subrata Paul, Monmugan goalkeeper, were alone on the box. And Subrata came charging. And it looked, he has collided with Cristiano. To some people at that time, it looked he hit Cristiano on the face. But Cristiano, what he did, he managed to get the goal. It was to me, it was the second goal of the match. Actually, he died scoring a goal. He was a striker and he died scoring a goal. And he fell down on the ground. I still remember, I noted it down 78th minute, Tempo's second goal. And as I looked onto the ground, I found he was still lying there. He was not moving. So nobody expected that he would die on the ground. So everybody thought some problem. So after 5, I think around 10 minutes or 7, 8 minutes or so, the ambulance came. He was put on an ambulance. He was taken away. And the match started. Which Balu was the referee. Later on, he was accused of starting the match again. But the thing is that it was the decision of the organisers, Kanataka State Football Association, to start the match. They started the match, the match finished. Even the prize distribution were met. Tempo was champions. They were given the cup and all these things. And still we are waiting for what to know that what has happened to this boy. That time, Marcos, who is currently in Times of India, he was in Goa Herald at that time. So Marcos called me up. He said, sir, any idea about Christian? I said, no. He said, my information says he is dead. So I was absolutely shocked. I said, how can it be? So I called up Mr. Colasso, the general secretary. He was in the hospital. Actually, he said, in a minute, I was about to call you Jairi. Just come on. He is dead. So it started. Then I told the others also. I took an auto, went to the hospital. And what I remember the most at that time, inside the hospital, before I could see the boy lying on the table or whatever, I could see the ranty martins crying loudly, so loudly that everybody in the hospital put here. And he was almost falling on the chest of Christian who was crying loudly. And Armando was standing there. So I just touched Armando. Armando looked at me and started crying. So it was, see, in my so many years of experience as a football reporter, I have never experienced such a thing in my life. And it started, then he was taken to the mall. We went there in the night in the mall. Next day, he was cremated in Bangalore only, I remember. So we were all there. So it on and on, there was some enquiry whether Vishnu was responsible for hitting Christian or not. Vishnu being Subrata boy. Then it was found out no, Subrata was not responsible. So many things. Subrata almost had lost his career. He was the most hated man. Next year when he went to Goa, stones were thrown at him. He was booed by the spectators. Everything, all these things happened. And he was I think in 1920 at the time, right? He was very young himself. And he was very aggressive. Everybody knows he had always been a very aggressive player. There is no doubt about it. Even now today, also he is very aggressive. But of course he was not responsible for his death. No way. But there was a theory at that time. There was a theory even AFF appointed a committee to look into it. I would like to add here that AFF appointed a committee to look into it. Then Mr. Darsman, she held a press conference at his residence in front of Khan market. I still remember in which he said a lot of things which really, I don't know. He meant nothing actually like a politician. But nobody appointed a committee to look into the affairs of the Karnataka State Football Association. That why the match was not what stopped. Why the ambulance was late. Why the price distribution were held when they perfectly knew that this boy is on the Tibet. Nobody held a held a held a had had a entirely come to anything. So it slowly died down. Of course, Subrata also came back to the ground here. Everybody forward. But the boy didn't come back. That's all I can say. Ishwar, just hearing sir. I'll be honest. And he's narrating a tale of what happened in 2004. Maybe a little bit of a hill. And I'm guessing anyone was hearing. And it stays with you. You were not there on the ground at that day because you were nursing an injury. I was part of the team. What was the impact on the team, the immediate impact on the team? Because these are boys and he's a player you've shared with them. Well, honestly, when Junior was signed for our team, we knew that we need a striker like him and we will have a very strong team with him. And if I still remember Coach Arman saying that, you know, like we have a very good team and we should win this cup before going to Federation Cup. You know, and, you know, like he had felt home when he came to Goa. He was treated well, everything. He was enjoying it there. He was a good footballer. Dada already said both the goals were scored by him. He was a fabulous player. Very fast, good in here, can score with the both feet. And he was very good human being, very nice human being also. I remember I was in touch with Stanley Klossok that same day after the match when we were all in hospital as Dada already said. And he quite least told me, I think he's no more. And then I spoke to Coach and he said only Ishpa Kai can't believe when he started crying. And it was like, you know, like I was in emotional, you know, like I was kind of literally crying as well. And because he was one of your teammates and knowing he was a fabulous human being, very down to earth, he never had any kind of attitude. But one of the person who was hardest hit was Armando from entire team. I still remember, you know, like for him, it was really hard because he was the one who convinced him to come because he had a fantastic season with East Bengal. And he was the one who convinced him to come to DEMPO. I was pretty close with him. So I still remember they used to have a junior day in DEMPO, celebrate kind of a sad day for entire DEMPO company. Even Mr. Srinivas DEMPO used to come that day. It was a very, very sad day. But honestly, we never had any idea before people can die in football. For me, this was a shock, you know. And yeah, we were kind of backward in those days in football. You know, we had an ambulance and we were standing outside on the road, where there was a lifestyle, and there was no problem standing there. So, the matches we used to play, even those days in Calcutta also, there was no ambulance. I think later on, AFF and with, you know, like, awareness and everything, it became compulsory. I still remember when I was in Mohan Bagan. We won a match against DEMPO. I think 2007, we won a match. And it was, yeah, against DEMPO, we beat them. Abul, Abul after the match, Abul Rahman-Mandam, he collapsed. And I remember, you know, like what had happened in my former team. I was again shocked he couldn't move. And it was again, you know, like touch and go kind of case, because his entire body had cramped. And I think they had to call ambulance later on and to take him to the hospital. And due to same condition, it was not a hot condition, but it was a different condition due to which later on he had to quit, I mean, stream football. Ishwar, just one final point, you spoke about 2007. I'm sticking to 2004, that when you go back to the field as a team, how difficult was it to get back onto the field? I can tell you it was very, very difficult. It was very, very difficult. And even, you know, I told you the coach was devastated. He was in no mood to continue. He was, you know, like inside, it was killing him that, you know, like we couldn't do anything for him. You know, there was sense of that, that thing in had everything been on right time, right time medical team would have been there maybe, you know, like, that was devastating for him. He felt that we couldn't do anything because, you know, like as a coach, what can you do? As a player, we can't do anything. You know, like we are not trained for those things. But today, I think we can do anything. Because, you know, like as a coach, what can you do? As a player, we can't do anything. You know, like we are not trained for those things. But today I feel emergency situations, medical situations, entire team and staff should be educated. And it was really hard for coach and we used, I used to see him. I could see he is not mentally, you know, ready to take classes and it remained with him for a long time. I still remember for a long time. There was a very much sense that it happened with Subratopon. He was, he was one of the hated guy, as I said, but I still remember a decision taken by Dampo Club and Armando that time that he came openly. He said it could have happened with anyone. Subratopon had never an intention to do that and that was good from, you know, like Dampo Club. Big thing to say, big thing to say. So big thing to say, just very quickly, you know, you were talking about Armando, I remember a few years later I was working with Zee, who the host brought us to that time. And a similar incident happened versus Churchill Brothers in a federation cup game in Gangadhar. It was Ranti and I think Okbakalu, both clashed and were taken to the hospital. Baba Lade. Baba Lade, sorry. Baba Lade. And I remember post-match interview, Armando was, you know, he was not shaking but you could make out his mind was not there. I wasn't playing that much. He was playing that much. So his mind wasn't there at all. So, you know, you kind of get a sense, you say you don't probe him any further. Just quickly finish the interview, ask about the shares and move on. And if I just tells you the importance of medics, right? Split second decision, Simon Kyer coming in. He's done that because he has some knowledge. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Then the team doctor comes. He's checking pulse. Then the pulse goes and the medical team is there and then they resuscitate him and take him up. No, what Ishwaku is saying is spot on in that like so much awareness and so many protocols are now in place. Starting from the top where the policy comes down that you cannot have a match unless there are paramedics. There's an ambulance that is on call available right there at the ground. You see now in Katirva and stuff, the ambulance is actually parked almost on the pitch, you know? Or at stadiums like Kalyani and stuff where it's just off the pitch. So that's made a huge difference, the awareness that players have, the training that they receive on a day to day basis. That's also made a huge difference. And like we saw yesterday, I mean the awareness of the people in the immediate environment as soon as it happened. That made a huge difference and probably played a big part that immediate, you know, in that critical juncture. The pressure bubble you're working in, the pressure bubble you're working in. Yeah, I also just want to quickly bring up how, you know, because we were talking, Jedeep was mentioning how when the Christiano incident happened back in 2004, there was an investigation into perhaps what happened on the pitch, but there was no investigation into the functioning of the organization or those who are responsible for holding the match and why care was not given. Yesterday was in a sense the exact opposite because we are having this tournament, the entire tournament is taking place in the situation of a medical emergency globally, right? So a lot of conversation and attention has been paid to the kind of medical setup that comes with it to support these players and the bubbles they are in and to limit it from the infection point of view. But this is of course a different kind of, you know, whatever happened to Christian Ericsson. But the response of it, the response time and the testing of the systems that are in place, I think UEFA will be quite pleased with the work that they managed to do as well as the host nation, the venue, the local organizing committee I think will be very, very relieved and pleased that they managed to bring this boy back from the brink. So very quickly, you know, we are talking about the highest level, the highest amount of budget, so you know you can procure all these things and you can set such standards. Even in India, if you look at it, in Karnataka, a local league member boy succumbed to a heart attack. Yes, MDFA elite division has also happened. In Kashmir last season, one boy died and I think was it in Pagam or Supor? Yeah, Baramula district it was. Yeah, in America, lower leagues also there's a full study done on it that there are a lot of players who collapse like this on the field. But it's just that you don't have the proper medical attention. Have we come, you know, sir, generally, sir, what do you say, in 2004, what happened at the highest level in India, you tend to learn from it. And can we say we've learned from it because the same thing happened in the ISL final, Amer Ranare, he collapsed, medical help came. And we don't know the, you know, the science behind it, how you do it, what you do, but the good news is the boy survived and he's hailing hearty right now. Yeah, Arjun, I think, yes, awareness has come. But for that, if you ask me, Krishna junior had to lay down this life. I will go back to an incident in 1988-89, Santosh Trophy, when Bengal footballer Sanjeev Dutta, who was popularly known as Raja. Raja, you remember, died on the on the on the ground and he died without any medical attention. I can say with, say it with with conviction that he was a victim of all India Football Federation's poor policy. There was no medical attention. He was taken to the hospital by the time he had died. But for 15 years, nobody learned from it. Krishna junior, if in 2004 had to die, almost in the similar condition, nothing changed in the 15 years. The poor boy came all the way from Brazil to earn a few dollars in India and had to lay down his life here, just because he knew how to play football. And he was better than a lot of Indians, to be very frank. So after that, a lot of things have changed. But I would say in the second decade of this century, things have changed. Now the policy has come that if you see in the lot of teams in the nursery league complain that we had to put an ambulance on all. We don't have so much money, how can we do it? I think it's the right decision on the on the part of all India Football Federation. The ambulance has to be there and if you can't do it, please don't play. No Mac will be clear. Don't play. Please don't play. Not only top matches, even second division matches, I'm talking about the local state matches. All India Football Federation never allows now. If the state will do it, they are taking responsibility. But I know this for sure. Federation will never allow even a state match to be conducted if there is no ambulance, if there is no doctor present at the ground. Even training sessions, for example, we go at, sorry, we are perhaps extending this segment a bit more than we are supposed to. But because the topic is, I guess, vast, we all have different experiences of it. Even in the ILEE bubble this year, for example, when training sessions were held on non-match days, even for training, you had to have an ambulance present at the training venue. And there was this conversation happening between certain club management professionals saying that the cost of this is unaffordable and stuff like that. I mean, if clubs also from their perspective, I can understand that there are many financial challenges that clubs face. But if as a football club, you are not willing to invest 2,500 rupees in having an ambulance at the venue when your boys are training to look after them in case of the worst happening. This is the worst case scenario that these boys are going through. Then I think everything has to be brought into question and I have to say it's difficult in a country like India where the gaps and the differences in availability of medical facility, financial resources, etc. are so wide. But despite that, I think it's a very important policy decision that has been taken at the top level and we have to all find a way to work together to ensure that at the lower levels, grassroots levels, non-elite levels where there are no cameras present, probably no journalists present, there also the same kind of medical attention and care is available to players on the pitch. Anyhow, I should tell you there were league people present during the practice matches also and they made it clear there won't be any practice match also, training match also if there is no ambulance. Yeah, in this matter they are very good, you would have to say that. But yeah, very good and heads up to clubs also. At least with Kerala, we played matches with Mumbai, Goa and this was not a problem. This was always taken care. I think now the other side said in modern football, modern Indian football, I will say these things have like federation or the league from the ISL people and the clubs and they work together for this because one life is more important than the entire football. And I think everybody knows that. That's the right way to say it. So we had an engaging discussion on what transpired in India and how the situation is handled in India. It's time now for our second segment because not only did the medics handle it really well but there are also question marks on the way the broadcasters were broadcasting the images in that game between Ten Mark and Finland. That is coming in our second segment. So the chat is this that the entire scene played out for close to 20 minutes between Ten Mark and Finland and while medical attention was being given to Christian Ericsson. Now one must realize this that there is a local broadcaster in Copenhagen. The director is cutting the shots. There are 15, 16 cameras, whatever depending on how many cameras you put. Director is cutting the shots. And the point is a lot of people are saying that while you're trying to resuscitate him, do we really need to see this? You've been on air for close to 20 minutes. So the way it works is the feed is beamed to various countries, right? In our country, we beam over to various countries is being and while the people in those countries have no say on the shots that are being taken or the shots that are being given. They do have a say in saying cut from the live venue and you can come into our studio, right? And which is what a lot of people are talking about saying cut to studio. You can hear, you can see Ian right there. Robbie Fowler as well is saying that people should have cut to studio earlier. These pictures should not be shown on the field since the meds came on the pitch. Dana Steady has shown drone shots. I don't know, where do you stand, Ani Bhai? What is the situation? Either the only thing is that when you're on air for 20 minutes, you've understood in 5 minutes that the situation is very serious, right? Those boys have formed a circle around him so as no camera can get in and take a picture of Christian's face or whatever medical treatment that's been given to him. Easier said than done, come to studio because there are a lot of variables as well. Yes, absolutely. Broadcasters have to think long and hard about these kind of decisions, the kind of cutting they are doing and most importantly the kind of awareness and sensitivity that people who are in studio who are anchoring these shows have. It's very well for Ian Wright in his position having been a top international and top club player having been through certain experiences in his life and now broadcaster himself. It's very easy for him to say, not easy but it's logical for him to say cut to studio because in that scenario, like we are having this conversation, Ian Wright would probably be able to give the audience some context, give them some information as well as keep them connected to what is happening on the pitch and the kind of medical attention that is being received. It happens in many scenarios especially like you are saying in this kind of tournament which is broadcast around the world. People, broadcasters don't necessarily want to spend money and invest so much in the people that they are bringing into these studio scenarios and they are limiting their engagement for those pre and schools. How do you know that? How many broadcasters have you spoken to that have told you that? Like for example is happening in many situations in Indian football where commentators are doing commentary from a separate location, they are not even on the ground. These kind of cost cutting measures are across the board in play in football. If you look at perhaps broadcast budgets of season one when the Indian Super League started seven or eight years ago versus the broadcast budget today, if you don't account for inflation I think that budget has significantly shrunk. Mostly this has to do with the fact that more money is being spent on cricket coverage year on year so therefore there is less money for everything else but that is then a different topic to get into. My point being that when you are using a world field like this and you have perhaps people in studio who are not prepared who have not been through such kind of scenarios it is very difficult to come back to studio and have a conversation on the subject because if someone has done something wrong yesterday it can create more problems. At least the images that are coming from the pitch from the field over there there is an experienced production team that is sending out these images and giving you the option of whether or not you broadcast them. So there is some element of some editorial process and guidelines being followed in that context. Now the BBC and others perhaps as most broadcasters they have their own setups, they have people on the ground so they are in a much better position to take those calls. In the case of India for example our broadcasters I don't think they have actually their own people on the ground giving them real time verified information. This is what is happening, this is what is not happening and therefore my advice to the studio team is that we do this cut in, cut out, go to ad, show some pictures that decision is not taken by a reporter on the ground that decision is always taken by the EP. I agree but the information channel has to be open where the reporter on the ground is sharing accurate information in real time with the people in the studio then of course the head person in the studio whose job it is to make that decision will take the final call but if that channel of information or reportage is not present it makes life very very difficult and therefore in that scenario in my limited opinion it is important to have those live images coming because it gives us a sense of how the teammates are helping that the boy is receiving medical aid immediately within a flash that the medical team was on the pitch by his side and he was probably receiving the best care possible in the entire world. This is something that I think you can say for taste, not taste both we all go for it. Subjective is the way you can do it is that I am just saying I am not saying the other option is you come to studio and you let the pictures play out for the people in the studio not for the broadcast. You can do a delete. You don't put out the pictures only. You come to studio, the guy is watching it on a TV in studio and then you relay whatever you need to relay to the people at the end of the day. But then there are a lot of variables. In fact, whenever something like this happens in a live sport event and I know everyone's first thought goes to the player family and so on and teammates. My thoughts also go out to the broadcasters who are present at that time talking about the commentators. Because at that time it is so difficult. You can be the most crafted of commentators. You can be the most experienced of commentators. You are not prepared for a situation like this. You are never prepared for a situation like this. You only get prepared for a situation like this by being in such a situation. So the guys who were commentating last night next time they will be prepared. They don't know how to go about it. Because who are actually with Pune? They were pretty much in the deep end. And in this day that we are living in where every word is being scrutinized after saying something wrong it is gone on social media. You are looking at how it is going on and so on and so forth. So sometimes silence is the best solution. At an individual level, at a personal level you are willing to agree with you. But if you are in that job where you are a studio anchor you are doing live television. I think there is some onus of responsibility also on you. You are doing a job as a professional. So maybe it is not part of the expectation to be in this particular kind of scenario when you are actually covering a football match. But we know that things happen. And of course everyone will learn from this when they are mentally prepared also. Given that so many things are happening. Vaccination processes are happening. COVID-19 is still very much present. So over the course of this one month tournament as well as the COPA that is going on there is the possibility that things will not go 100% according to plan at all times. And I think in those scenarios you can never prepare for this. I am telling you I have been in those situations. You can never prepare for a situation like this in broadcast. You can never prepare for it. No, no, no. I agree. The people who are being beaten they can best tell you because sometimes your chain of thought is gone. How do I say it? And that comes sometimes from the fear that I don't say anything wrong. Sir, we are all human beings. You use the word sometimes to say something. You don't mean anything. We are all human beings. It could have been almost we've had before we are coming on air and doing our life bit. These guys don't have that time to gather your thoughts to get your composure. And of course we now also have the information that the guy that Erickson is doing well that he has been brought back from the brink and that he is recovering. How much those details will come with time. But at that point the guys doing the live studio stuff they don't have that information. I completely agree with you that it's a tough situation but it's a tough job. That's why people like us for example I mean don't become anchors. It's a specialized role for people who have training, who have experience and who have the ability and the kind of intrinsic I don't know the speed of thought to be able to adapt to the situation and remember the audience and give them information that is verified that is you know balanced and kind of I don't know responsible in that sense. I'm quickly going to end it. Where do you stand on this debate? So it was a 20 minute window sir. Boy was being given medical aid at the time. Would you have wanted to cut away not show the pictures at all? Because see at the end of the day a broadcaster's job is all to paint the story in front of you. I think see I'm not privy to the rules because I don't know much about television what are the rules in television and all. What I thought what you said was right actually that they could have cut it off because his wife coming with his tears in her eyes and all I don't like looking at it frankly speaking. They could have cut it off come back to the studio and keep on giving updates. But sir the thing is you don't know what pictures are coming you're at the behest of someone who's cutting pictures in Denmark so you don't know that they have a camera on the wife. That's my point. And that the guy who is directing or producing that world feed is cutting to that camera. Exactly. I think their decision sometimes you don't know how serious injury is. If that window of 3-4 minutes where you will come to know and where camera men those camera men are very smart nowadays and then directors also one of them will obviously always focus and the directors they have to cut the feed at all. They showed it like going down clear going down once they will get to know that it's a bit serious then they should cut off to the studio and then give updates. Updates are very important because everybody is waiting and praying and then talk about maybe medics and others or if it's good news at that time best is to talk about medics. Because a lot of viewers are watching people may not like it or people might feel more emotional or something might happen to someone because of this thing you never know. So it's very sensitive part. I think the best thing is not to show after 2-3 minutes let's go to the studio and talk about it. Fine gentlemen. Thank you so much. I think we've come to the end of our show. Once again, lots of love to Christian Erikson his entire family, the entire team and especially to the medics man who worked like that and brought him back. So great. Jairib sir, Rishwak, Sadan thank you once again for your time and thank you for taking this back. What has been a dark patch in Indian football and it's important that people who follow the game in that country know about what has happened in November 2004. Thank you so much for watching just a reminder, we're on Instagram we're on YouTube, we're on Twitter give us a follow, subscribe wherever you want to get your information on our shows. We now have a ticker that gives the handles as well. I'm not used to it sir, sorry. Yes sir. Handle, this is it. Follow everyone. If you want to follow, do it. Otherwise, don't do it. This is what you've told me. What are we holding hands on? What are we saying? We are saying if you want to do it but throughout the duration of this tournament we will talk about Euro at 1 o'clock in the afternoon. Now don't think that if we match with Afghanistan then we forget Indian football. Sir, we are coming there. Yes, we are coming there. So on 15th, India House is Afghanistan which means we'll be doing a preview on the 14th and on 15th night we'll be doing a look back like what we did for Bangladesh and timings which is why I said we'll be putting out on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube. I was saying why don't you ask those guys who are constantly watching us they tell us what time to come what is the best time. Post match or before or somebody they have questions for what kind of team should play let's ask them make it a little different Sir, you are shooting at our head because we are asking questions. We ignore Siddhant and I because we keep saying why don't you ask us questions. Take it. This is the good thing about this show. No. We won't show what we like and what we like on TV. We will also show Gannapad. That's right. This is the time at which the director should cut us off. Our pole is opening. Our pole is opening. Thank you so much for your time. We'll see you tomorrow same time. Same place 1pm on YouTube. Bye bye. Are we off? Good touch.