 By constructing infrastructure, for example, fencing off a water pan or drilling a borehole, which can actually be closed off and opened up at certain times, and also in view of the existing traditional natural resource governance institution called the DEDA oversees the grazing patterns. Now the DEDA system guides the community members as to locations where to go to during the wet season, and then as the season changes and moves to dry, they direct them on to start moving to the dry season grazing areas, and then when there's a drought, again the DEDA and there's also a Rangeland Users Association and now directs communities on which sites structurally go to in the drought season. The pastoral areas, the communities own land communally, and so pastoral communities from other counties as well, you know, move their livestock, looking for pasture and water, and often actually end up in some of the wards in Isiolo County. And what I've actually learnt over time is that Isiolo, because of the DEDA system, and you know this natural resource governance, has over time been like quite a big refuge for herders or pastoralists in the wider northern Kenya region. So during drought especially, her pastoralists coming from as far as Mars a bit from Ojiya, even Mandera sometimes, I think even Somalia, you know as the neighbouring country north-west, and Samburu and Turukana, so it's really, it's open land, and so being able to actually manage the water enables governance of the Rangeland User, and that has a direct implication on, you know, let me say the resilience of the pastoral community. So in a drought situation especially, if the drought reserves, you know, are conserved and conserved well, you find that now, you know, with the instructions of the DEDA and the Rangeland User Association, the water ponds and the bogals are then open, but when the hadas actually now move into these areas, they'll find that the grass is there, their livestock to feed on, but then there's also water. And the system is very regulated in that for each hada who brings their livestock, they're given a certain amount of time to water their livestock, and then they move away, and then, you know, the other group comes, so it's really done in a very, it's a very organised system actually. And so because droughts are intensifying, more frequent now, such an organised management system should enable the pastoralists to minimise loss of livestock. The infrastructural interventions together with information on climate, you know, so the climate information, for example, timely provision of seasonal weather, focusing on whether there actually is meaningful to them, can help them make decisions. Or, you know, for example, should I actually start selling the, you know, not very strong livestock at this point in time. So, and if we actually provide access to a market, you know, fairly close by, that should really help, you know, be able to actually do the off-take early enough. But there are other aspects as well. There are lots of other governance aspects. So there's the markets, there's the pasture and water, there's the management system for grazing, there's the use of climate information services, all this really, you know, meshing very well together. And, you know, our hope is that as we proceed, things like value addition as well will come in more strongly, so, you know, capacity development to the communities there on value addition to livestock products, because that will enable them, you know, increase household incomes, hopefully. And for me, I think that, you know, with greater household incomes, people actually have perhaps more options, even for decision making, so they don't have more options to consider and can actually take perhaps stronger decisions.