 Nigeria faces a debt crisis with a debt burden of more than 33 trillion naira and 97 percent of revenue spent on service in the debt. How can we solve this challenge? The southern governors ban on open grays and divides Nigeria in number of groups in support and a particular Fulani cultural group totally opposed to it. We'll be talking to a lead of the group who says the South should forget about the presidency in 2023. And tribute spore in from entertainers and everyday Nigerians for talented artists and singer Saum Sultan who died at the age of 44. Good morning and thank you for joining us here on PLOS TV Africa another very beautiful Monday morning edition of The Breakfast. We hope you had a great weekend and once again thanks for joining us. Good morning. Yes good morning and good morning to you. Good to see you this morning. Same here. How was your weekend? It was short as always. I was here I left here what almost 11 p.m. on Saturday and of course I just had Sunday to rest but back at it again on Monday morning but you know let's see how the week goes we hope it's gonna be really really interesting. Yes and the sad thing is I don't know it seems we'll have two bad stories for our top trending even though some people would say it's good news for the rest of the world and you know bad for just England but we know that it didn't come home did it? No it did not you know just like I had predicted on Thursday you know say with that yeah I said it wasn't gonna come home you know so everyone who was I'm not even sure why Nigerians were saying it's coming home. Coming home where? Nigeria was in plane you know in the Euro so what do you mean by coming home and so yes I didn't want England to win you know for personal reasons and yesterday you know after they lost so I feel bad for you know Saka and Rashford and Sancho and every other you know player and of course including Manchester United players but I feel bad for them but you know seeing the reaction that the England fans had after they lost you know it really just makes me you know say loud and clear that yes it's good they didn't come home immediately they lost the racism kicked in immediately they lost you know the racial abuse kicked in you know if you look at Saka's Instagram page you know it's all filled with monkey and emojis and the likes there's also video clips of people being assaulted as they got out of the stadium you know mostly you know Italian fans and some black people being assaulted after the day as they you know made their way out of the stadium so yes you know good for them it didn't come home you know I'm proud of the Italians and like myself and Wally Scott had predicted he was definitely gonna be you know an Italy win it really showed you know a lot of you know the lapses with regards I feel you know it showed the lapses with Garret Southgate you know compared to the Italian coach Mancini I think it's his name so congratulations to Italy I know it didn't come home I have so many questions regarding this game where England lost to Italy because first of all I want to know your personal reasons you mentioned that you had personal reasons why you didn't want England to win and it seemed like it that was how it was for majority of you know football lovers around the world they didn't want England to win could you shed more lights on exactly why well I really I really said it you know because I I knew the attitude of the England fans you know and if they had won they wouldn't hear the last of it we'll probably hear of this bragging for the next 10 years and they would never let it go you know so there is that and then also because of what happened immediately after they lost you know how the races immediately kicked in you know so that's not that's not you know a team that I would you know support I want you know some success for the English national team because it's been too long since they you know picked up any trophy anywhere not even in terrestrial markets they haven't gotten any trophy anywhere but you know because of these little you know factors here and there I like the fact that their team has grown and it's a totally different and very very fresh team that we're seeing more tactical you know a lot faster the football is more beautiful than it used to be you know in the other eras but at the same time you know I really just supported Italy I don't know any of the Italian players you know personally I don't care about any of them but I personally just didn't want Italy or England to win it they should try again next maybe next euros they might you know be successful that wow good luck to them wow so right now Italy is the champion of England everybody's happy about that European champion of Europe I beg your pardon I saw a map that was put out it says you know the map was predominantly coloured blue and it said this is the amount of people who wanted England to just lose and I think it's just you know sad to see how English fans reacted after the game and then I saw statistics about how how much you know domestic abuse they were in the US in the UK when you know English fans or English clubs lose and I'm like is this really true yeah and this is a fact that when I think England team loses you know the people the supporters begin to they get very violent so so so over time they've you know been on record as what is having one of the most violent and racist supporters for football and not just their national team including their club you know club football teams there's always been that it doesn't necessarily paint the whole picture of what English football is like there is also the you know decent and you know football loving and very very pure hearted football fans in England there's maybe probably even more but those very very dark stains here and there have not been successfully taken away and I don't understand how you can support Bukai Osaka and support you know Rashford and Sterling and those black players on days when they win the days when they you know get England through any game you support them and you praise them but immediately they make any mistake whatsoever they immediately turn to monkeys terrible terrible I mean there's a statement here from the FA spokesperson it says FA statement on discriminatory abuse the FA strongly condemns all forms of discrimination and is appalled by the online racism that has been aimed at some of our England players on social media we could not be clearer that anyone behind such disgust and behavior is not welcome on our team will do all we can to support the players affected or urging the toughest punishments for anyone responsible so really what impact would this make can they actually do anything substantial this is an abuse this is a systemic you know abuse that has been going on for a long time so what really can they do to stop this this really is not about you know a couple of fans this is not about 12 fans you know that might get lifetime bands from you know stadiums this is not about you know being able to you know find you know a hundred of them you know for racist you know remarks or for violent you know attacks after the after the games it's good it goes beyond that it really just tells you the kind of society that you know England you has and no matter how many fans you ban if you don't find ways to actually kick out racism taking a knee after the black lives matter protests you know which went around the world you know you still see people criticizing it but they did that you know to show some level of solidarity with with Africans and with their black players but it really hasn't changed much and so there has to be ways that England systematically needs to find a way to kick out racism the world not just England now the whole world needs to you know continue to ensure that racism is completely kicked out I don't know how successful we'll be in our lifetime but it would take you know more than just a few fines here and then you know and a few statements from the English FA there has to be a whole lot more none of those people that you're talking about is on the team so I'm not sure what they mean by you know you can't join the team none of them is on the team none of them will you ever be on that team they're really just supporters who of course express themselves in a very very disgusting way after they lose so I can imagine what it would have been like if they actually did win we would not hear the last of this because Morgan would have been all over the internet for the next couple of days talking about it but congratulations to Italy they played a very very good game they got back after you know being one go down two minutes into the game I think in the 67th minute they eventually scored a goal played it all the way to you know extra time and then you know one on penalties England lost three penalties from Sancho from what's his name now Rashford and from Bukayo Saka sadly but of course big one there so congratulations again to Italy the champions of Europe but next up is something that really shook most of Nigeria and it's about the death of one of very finest musicians sound told and there's been tributes pouring in you know from everywhere you know just sending condolences and well wishes to the family we got in the passing of our very own musician he had passed from a certain type of cancer one the news broke earlier that he had third cancer he didn't deny that he didn't confirm he just was silent about it we saw a video that he posted on father's day with his children singing playing the guitar they were all having fun and then we heard the news and he's now been buried in the US it's just so sad he I mean it was so young he was just 44 full of life you know it's it's just a lot you need to see the tributes has been pouring in I haven't saw a statement from one of the you know representatives of the US console you know sending condolences to sound told and his family all the big musicians you can think of in Nigeria Too Faced, Idibia, all the big names Richard, Mufedah Michio, Debo Macaroni, Femi Kuti you know so it's just it's something that just saddens a lot of people we can all agree on something that he did make his mark I mean you talk about how you compare music of before and music of now and you see so much different it seems the music of now gets you happy gets you moving makes you dads but when we talk about substances is a debate we keep having the substance or in the content of the music of the 1990s you know his first music was in 1999 that was Jabba Jantis you saw people trying to make a statement people trying to make a difference people trying to pass a message he was very he used his music for political activism and we saw it we saw it in the music videos he did we saw it in the content of his lyrics we saw it in the in the person that he in his persona who he represented as an artist and we're grateful to have had sound told tan and it's a shame that his past so soon so pretty um sound told tans death is um you know perfect you know time to once again remind us uh about um you know the fact that you yes it was a very sad day for me and you know I admit that I uh for a long time I haven't had any reasons to actually cry because anybody uh passed but yesterday I did cry mostly because you know it's a reminder that um we come to this earth with nothing we live with nothing um what's you know most important is the mark that we live in the time that we're here and what people have to say about you in the time that we're here the life that you live you know how people eulogize you after you pass and he is a perfect example of a person who nobody had anything bad to say about sounds to tan was everything to the nandia music industry in every single direction you can imagine it was a comedian it was an artist was a producer was an actor it was everything that you can imagine he was he was completely grounded I thought yesterday of how people would take it how would two phase take it because they were they were extremely close friends basket mouth ty mix um banky w a lot of these people who have been friends with him for a very very long time I couldn't imagine the pain that they were dealing with and and um I would always like to say okay let's focus on celebrating the life that he lived but you cannot take away the actual pain that this brings to the industry and this is for everybody in the whole industry not just in music in the movie in industry these are people who have been for everyone who has been there for the last 20 years and more he had a massive massive impact on the industry um he supported every single person there was never any time just look around social media yesterday there was nobody whatsoever that didn't feel the need to make a post within Nigeria abroad governors for the sessions wife of john yes something called him his cousin um and that is the impact that he had silently in on the industry it was a sad day and I said yesterday um what's what's called now that the showcase said oh you know a tree has fallen you know that was his way of expressing you know what had happened but it was a it is one of the saddest moments in I don't think I felt this bad about the death of a Nigerian artist since da green but this was one of the saddest moments in the Nigerian music industry and nothing nothing would ever replace um the impact that sound Sultan had not just in the music but with the personal relationships and the support that he gave to other artists the level of support that he was able to render many many many many people and everybody who met him said the same thing exactly and one thing about sound sultan just like two-faced he's a humble man I remember when I met him in 2016 when I was in radio in bilin city he he just you can just see that persona around him very very free very open he was very humble played with everyone you know you were here stories about people say oh this celebrity snubbed me I tried to take a picture with her she snubbed me sound sultan wasn't like that he was a complete opposite and no one had ever had anything negative to say about him and it's just a very it's a really great soul you know I think that that's that's how I would describe him well he was he was completely great beautiful soul you know that lived in that person called sound sultan lauri as people who know him personally will call him and so it does hurt it's a sad way to start up a monday morning but we of course had to quickly share about this so we wish his family well we hope that of course people can people can you know also get to you know look at some of the the way he lived his life and take examples from you know the life that he lived which was a very very beautiful life and you know don't cry he's gone and remember you know that as we come we also will go you know so make sure that you give the best to the you know the time that you're here on the journey that you're on really sad anyway quickly we also would celebrate with the tigers nindia's basketball team would defeat it the usa's dream team over the weekend also it was a shock victory i think it was that one came seven yeah that one came home yeah that's that's the one that we should have been talking about you know it's coming home it's coming home but i think it was a friendly game and we won that one ninety two eighty seven really really shocking i'm sure they didn't even expect that they would win not very many people follow nindian basketball it's not as popular as a as a super eagles and the football team but for those who got got to see this it was definitely something to celebrate over the weekend and it really also shows um yeah i would quickly throw this in it really also shows you the difference with managing a team outside nigeria and managing a team here you know being in control of the likes of sunday dairy and the other people here who of course are struggling athletics is struggling no shade football is struggling oh all the shade in the world no shade everything concerning nigerian sports industry is struggling to breathe but this was an international shocker i mean yes who saw this coming the literal dark horse well you know i'm sure i'm pretty of also sure that they believe in themselves well enough to be able to pull that off because they played that game you know in its entirety until eventually the you know final bell rang um while it's got to definitely talk about it so congratulations to them but once again shame on those who manage the sport in the country here the you know our local sport that we we cannot in any way i don't i don't know what we're going to do doing the olympics i've said it before i don't know what we're going to do in the olympics including those ones that have had their jerseys we just don't see the story about the jerseys and the equipment being at the port and they were asked to pay money you know and they kept saying no no this is for the olympics team and the post authority says not their business you know you should come and pay and collect your you know this eventually i think you arrived later probably hasn't even arrived till now there's a kind of lapses that we have in the country here that would we make it extremely difficult for any body any person about how talented you are or skilled you are to be successful in the nigerian sport doesn't it so congratulations to the nigerian usa-based basketball team the tigers and we hope that we you know you continue to make us proud all right let's take a break here and we'll join mr jundi kalawali in just a few seconds for off the press