 Would it be wrong to try vegan kfc because it's still kfc? No, I'm gonna go try it and I'm gonna go promote it Hundred do you think the chickens? Do people think the chickens are upset that the vegan there's a vegan burger on at kfc? How would the chickens feel? If vegans boycotted that burger and they took it off the menu and then there wasn't a vegan option at kfc Well, they they've got one of the biggest reach out of any corporation on earth That would be smart advocacy wouldn't it that would be clever. No, I'm going there, and I'm eating it and I'm promoting it Because it's a vegan option, and it doesn't matter who sells it. It's vegan. It's vegan birds weren't tortured and killed for it Okay, if you want to say well the company tortures and kills birds Well, you know the Sainsbury's in the supermarket where you buy your milk from your vegan milk from also sells dairy So they torture and kill animals If we don't buy that vegan burger They take it off the menu simple as that chickens lose animals lose so we're supposed to be on Team animals, okay, we want the kernel the crew Kentucky fired cruelty to be selling the vegan burger Okay, and yeah, so yes go buy it supply and demand use your Finances to tell kfc what we want. We want to vegan burgers. We want a whole vegan box meal We want vegan Ingredients coming out of every single evil corporation on earth So we can show them that um the world is changing and this is where they need to steer Their businesses into more compassionate more environmentally friendly menu options for the for the population, so yeah Like obviously I don't want to step into a place where they're frying dead birds But I'm going to do it because it's not about me. Is it it's not about how I feel about kfc It's about what's best for the chickens, isn't it at the end of the day? and I appreciate why some vegans. I can't eat there can't eat there Appreciate that, but don't tell other people not to eat the vegan burger there. Don't do that. That hurts animals Not giving them money to kill animals. That's nonsense. That's absolute nonsense I'm giving the money to their vegan product that doesn't kill animals if you think that you're not thinking this through logically I'll debate you if you like on it She if you if you're anti the kfc vegan burger you're anti you're pro They're other products because guess what they're still going to be making multi billions of dollars off the cruelty and violence They take the vegan burger off the menu and then what they're still making multi billions of dollars of cruelty and violence We've told them what we want. We don't want them to put a vegan option on. We're not going to buy it Okay, so there's no change going to happen. Good. That was very that was very clever wasn't it? That was real clever chickens going to be happy about that people go and drunk to kfc with their friends and there's a vegan option then they've just been educated on veganism and There's something for them to reach for convenience is huge. Do you know how big convenience is for people? You know something not everyone cares about like Being deep-fried not everyone cares about that people just want convenience. That's huge for people. Everyone's lazy They want a snack. They're out drinking with their friends is a 24-hour kfc open bomb. There's a vegan option shit. Let's hit it Let's hit it If you people don't understand how like I know most vegans do a lot of vegans don't understand how supply work Supply and demand works. I think if you buy a vegan burger from kfc, you're supporting torture and killing I'll tell you right now every single business that you go into that sells animal products You can apply the same logic to also like, you know went to this restaurant. They had a vegan option on at the restaurant I'm not going to eat it though because the vegan option the rate of the vegan restaurant also sells animal products So I'm not going to I'm not going to buy the vegan, you know meal that they've put on at the local pub or the local restaurant now. Oh, you know Greg's have brought out a vegan sausage roll not going to buy it because Greg also sells, you know, the tortured body parts of pigs So I'm not going to show them with my money that I want the cruelty to end and we're not going to show them that that vegan products You know, I'm really marketable and that you know, nah, I'm not gonna it's all about me It's all about me. It's not about the bigger picture. You know what I mean? But that's that's exactly what people need to think about and it's I think people are sincere when they say but they haven't thought it through and I'm looking at the bigger picture here Like if there was like some cross-contamination, I would still do it. I would still do it because Even though it's disgusting I'm buying the vegan product. There's some cross-contamination probably in the kitchen can't avoid it But I'm doing it for the sake of the animals. I'm going in there. Hey, there's a vegan burger. I'm promoting on my platforms You know, whatever. Let's do what's right Do what's right Shit quality. Who are you Maximus? Who cares if it's shit quality. It's better than tortured animal bodies You ever been inside of a factory farm? Shit quality. I wonder where Maximus gets his food from Must be a veganic farm around this house where the owner of the veganic farm is completely vegan And he never gives money to any corporation at all because if you're giving money to any if you're paying taxes Maximus, you're paying taxes. That's going to where? Where's that going to? Subsidised factory farms you cannot win in a capitalist system like the way you're talking You cannot apply your logic across the board. You haven't thought this through You haven't thought this through the best thing we can do is buy vegan products no matter who sells them Okay You know, you're not thinking clearly All money is blood money You cannot avoid your money going to some animal abuser down the line when I get Nuba. Where's that money go? He goes and buys lamb chops with it can't avoid it You go into Sainsbury's you go into the supermarket. I go into the co-op over here. All right buy a vegan option Buy some, you know one of the vegan donuts in there am I supporting animal abuse because they also sell dairy Here we go. Here's a great one by Maximus. This just highlights what I'm talking about go support a vegan fast food chain. Where? Where KFC have got bigger reach than any other fast food chain on earth nearly You don't want them to put a vegan option on ridiculous Ridiculous support both Support both. Do you want them to take the vegan option off just for Maximus? Take the vegan option off the menu Should they do you think chickens will be happy about that? Yeah, nah, you're not looking at it from the animals perspective I want everyone to support the vegan options wherever if there's a full vegan restaurant near your house I want you to go in there, too If there's vegan options at Sainsbury's or Tesco's or your local supermarket I want you to buy them from there as well. If there's a vegan pizza on a pizza hut by that There's a vegan burger on at McDonald's by that. All right KFC vegan burger by that Magnum bring out vegan option by that I'm an activist This is what we want. This is huge. This is history making It's history making that KFC have a burger on this history making Do you see that our work our activism is working? Don't you see that? All this work that we're doing advocating the demand is there. This is how we change the world You're doing anti-vegan activism Maximus You're doing and you're doing you're undoing all of our work I'll give you another analogy that maybe you might be able to follow as well If you live in a country that is at war Do you support your whole country? Because you live in it and pay the taxes No, if you if you support it Let's just say you go you live in a country that's at war and you go into a vegan restaurant in that country And you give your money to that vegan restaurant and those and and you're supporting sort of the capitalism in that country Do that do you then support everything that country does? Do you support everything that government does? No, you're supporting the vegan options where you can you're buying stuff from a vegan restaurant in the country That's also involved with all these other things. It's the best thing you can do Gary Orofsky's got an amazing video on this too, and you're gonna tell me Gary Orofsky supports the slaughter of animals that McDonald's do No, he's just logical He's just logical Gary Orofsky is logical. He says buy vegan products from non-vegan companies Gary Orofsky 30 year animal liberationist one of the the godfathers of animal liberation movement You know More in it for the animals than anyone nearly this guy is amazing Dedicated dedicated his whole life till he burned out to the for this movement. He says Buy vegan products from non-vegan companies. That's how supply and demand works That's how you make change from within that the evil system change the system from within What is practical for everyone in the Western world is Is what should be advocated for what's practical If you want to say well, why don't they just buy from local veganic farms? That's not practical for everyone. There's no local veganic farms around here, dude There's a test go up the road You know, there's a test go here. Is there a veganic farm here? And KFC is still gonna exist if you buy from your veganic farm. We want them to put on a vegan option They've got more reach They've got a restaurant nearly in every country on earth in every city on earth They've got more reach then all of us put together McDonald's have more reach then all of us put together. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? That's good that you agree. I'm glad that you do and if you don't agree we can have a discussion about it But I've thought this through for years Okay, and people see me making a video on McDonald's buying the vegan options Do you think I eat McDonald's every day? I think I love McDonald's the way they have their own slaughterhouse I think I love that if a butcher right now selling the body parts of animals put on a soy burger I'd go in there and I'd buy it That might seem like oh my god, he's gonna buy a soy burger from a from a butcher. Yeah, I would Cuz guess what if a million of us go in there and buy the soy burger He's gonna shut down his butcher and open up a vegan restaurant probably go vegan in the process If you're applying some other philosophy to your veganism like some purist health mentality or some Some anarchist mentality where that's just not practical for the general public then you know You're making things more difficult for the movement and for the animals. See they sell fruit and veg here vegan, right? vegan That stuff. There's vegan. You understand Yeah, potatoes vegan. Oh Look at this They sell the corpses of animals here, too. All right There's the corpses of animals and look here right next to the corpses They'll be on burger Vegan options the veriments Now old Maximus who was just in the chat before Should I not buy that with those vegan products there because they also sell meat here? No Should I? Maybe I shouldn't maybe we should just put all the vegan businesses out of business Yeah, and look over here Look over here So they've got These are all dairy products here Here's a dairy milk exploited cows Exploded cows exploited cows and guess what else they got here Guess what else they got here? Plant milks they got plant milks here See plant milks should I should we put all the plant milk places out of business because we need to buy from local Veganic farms where it's not vegan or they sell dairy products here, too Exploiting kill cows should I not buy the plant milk? No, just so don't buy the vegan burger at KFC either hey that would be good advocacy you think should I start do you reckon I should use my hundred thousand Followers on this platform to advocate against the vegan burger to advocate against people buying vegan products at supermarkets as well Do you think that's gonna help animals? Yeah, you think the cows want that think chickens want that Or do you think they want as many vegan products in as many places as possible with the largest reach as possible? So everyone's got the convenience to reach for a vegan product when they want a vegan burger or they want some vegan milk Or they want some vegan ice cream from Ben and Jerry's like I said if there was a butcher selling vegan options I would go in there and buy those vegan options And I tell vegans hey, you know like I know it's hard as it's a butcher there, but by the vegan options We got it and if enough people go in there by the vegan options. He turns this whole bloody shop vegan That's how we change the world