 India provides has a written form. It is an oral culture. It's always been an oral culture even now as print literacy has improved and it's around about I don't know 70% it is still in the ways that it uses media technologies it is still an oral culture so digital media and apps and people nodding that that's what it is. In the 70s the king decreed that Zonka only naturally spoken by half the country. Zonka would become the national language. It's part of unifying the country that everybody learned Zonka and that everybody learns English because it's international language. So both languages are an ongoing project in the country which is the context for my project. So this is the project. Number one to influence how Bhutan is represented on English Wikipedia because some of it's good some of it's excellent and some of it is cringe worthy because references used are lonely planet rather than the you know the written material out of Bhutan rather than the local experience because you know to go to Bhutan you go for a holiday you're there you're there for a week that's the access that you can have as an outsider that's why lonely planet reads like it does but when that's the reference for the Wikipedia pages it's a problem. So influence to influence how Bhutan is represented on English Wikipedia means Bhutanese need to engage step up you know know how to and represent Bhutan themselves on English Wikipedia. Once that's stage one of the project once that's completed and Bhutanese understand the logics the referencing all of the rules and why they're there the traditions all of how Wikipedia has a bowl then Zonka Wikipedia is there and is ready to for them to take charge and the third one is that they should be part of the global movement. So I have a couple of I have a whole host of research partners but the ones I want to point out is University of Bhutan who are embraced this project they see they understand the potential the Wikipedia has for their citizens so they're very keen. The other one is the Bhutan advisory committee so it's not appropriate for me to come into the country and here Wikipedia. So I have a series of various civil leaders who have all agreed to be this advisory panel that will constantly check what we're doing and how it's working. My research friends the Wikimedia community Australia has already stepped up. India have been in contact with various members over different times and as the project develops I'll be calling on you more. The Wikimedia Foundation has already funded one round of me doing the pilot and that pilot then led to me getting funding from the Australian government to do a 3D project for doing this. That's where we're up to. English Wikipedia was started and I haven't got it in front of me now but some years ago as part of a particularly near where there was a drive to bring new communities in and a Canadian man who'd spent many years in Nepal and was currently in Bhutan and who can do Zonka created Zonka for Linux and is who was hired by the Zonka Development Commission. He is a Wikimedia so he helped create Zonka Wikipedia and he did all these initial stubs and it's gone nowhere and in the last year no visits except me to check who knows. So the possibilities as I have pitched it to the Bhutanese communities is education you know you will understand immediately why education is just fabulous. Tourism and they do have lots of fantastic for teaching historical documents that would tell the some of the history of the Himalayas in general beyond their own borders. They're an important part of the whole Himalayan story over history so all of that's good. The possibilities for Zonka Wikipedia are where I get really excited as a researcher. So because it's a national project for everybody to learn Zonka there's just so many opportunities. What's that? Is it made top running at a time? No. It's a site of inclusion for all Bhutanese languages. Now the fact that all the others are oral without a written form shouldn't mean they can't be included on the Zonka site. The ways that Bhutanese use digital media show that they think literally they do it in new ways and that's what I'm excited about how they might use the audio and video affordances of the platform to actually be representative of their other languages. So the example that I give is there's a fabulous place called Mbazolay. It's on the tourist charts and English Wikipedia. Yep, you can get all the information on there. But on Zonka Wikipedia, they could record and upload oral interviews in different languages for that area. And that can sit alongside whatever it is that comes up on Zonka. So because that's the creative innovative and I look forward to seeing how that unfolds. So this was the first pilot and I wanted to present it in a year back and understand what the concerns were, where it landed. I had a group of Zonka newspaper editors and I did a training session with them in Tim Poole. And that was in 2019. And it was just fabulous. They were so engaged, so into it. It was just so much fun. And they were horrified once they actually looked at some Wikipedia pages about Bhutan and realised, but that's terrible. So COVID hit. My project was due to start March 2020. So I went back to teaching, didn't take the time off to do the, take the research leave. And instead I pivoted. So there is an outside Bhutan, Australia has the highest population of Bhutanese. It's a weird quirk of we have a really strong and weird connection. It's about 15,000 Bhutanese living in Australia now. Most of them, about 12,000 of them are in Perth and about 3,000 are in Canberra. And the rest are sort of dotted around. And they're mostly here for study, for tertiary study. They bring their families. So I pivoted it to the Bhutanese community. And this is this year, starting some in the Australian community, turning up beautifully to help. It was a modest success. I'm not sure. Yes, well, let's just hope that improves. So that was the starting point. So what I'm hoping to do now is go back next year. In 2023, I'm going to go in around March and re-engage with that advisory committee. And with the various groups of knowledge holders that the Royal University of Bhutan and I had identified. And that includes retired civil servants, editors, schoolteachers, monks. And I forget the other ones. We had six. Anyway, and to create these editing circles with those knowledge holders. And that will be that that's how we're going to do it. Now that I have managed to engage some in Australia, then there will be a hopefully a cohort that can connect virtually. And that's the plan. So that's Bhutan. The second project I want to tell you about, because this one I really need help with. So in 2019, just before COVID hit, I went with a group of Australian University of Sydney researchers. There was something like 60 of us. And we went around India with the idea being we were to make collaborations. And all part of encouraging better, better collaborations between Indian universities and Australian ones. And at TIS, Tata Institute of Social Sciences in Mumbai, we had we did it under this umbrella of anthropomorphic change. How can you help? So there was a room full of 50 researchers from University of Sydney, from medicine, architecture, me from, you know, media and comms, right across the board that there were law. Anyway, geography, and the same, the people who are interested from TIS stepped up. And we did this mad speed dating, where we ended up with all these key words, you had to go to a corner, where your key word was, or group of key words. And out of that, I sat with six people. And the two TIS professors were gerontologists, which is all about active aging. And that so we had to come up with a theoretical project that combined all our research interests. And this is what we came up with. So it's, naturally, I came up with what we're competing, we can train old people on Wikipedia, brilliant. And they started to get excited how would that work. And then we got into the internet. We had to stretch it and whatever to fit the anthropogenic migration, but we managed to, I'll just speak of those groups, all that funding kind of language. So that's a next week, I'm going to win here for the first meetings with our whole team, because we're actually now going to do this. And we're going to do this with a cohort in Mumbai, of Tamil diaspora, and a community of the Tamil diaspora in Sydney. And we're going to train both labs. We're going to, you know, intergenerational transfer of knowledge is what my TIS professors are excited about. In Australia, it's actually been really easy to find Tamil Wikipedia editors. I've had more trouble in Mumbai. So that that's the next step in why I would like to help. So in the last session, what will we sort of, you know, in five years, I would love to see people here that are part of a really healthy Bhutanese chapter. And to be able to report back that the Tamil seniors is a fantastic project that was a huge success. We have funding from the University of Sydney to do the first to do this, to get this far. And then I'll be coming to the Wikimedia Foundation for funding to actually do the project. And it will then, you know, hopefully form a paper and a case study of how we could do it. Okay, thank you. Let's get right up to the question. Because we will give it to the floor. If you have any questions to Dr. Wendy, please press your hand. Yes, sir. All that. I'm going to microphone to you. You're meant to introduce your name. The computer is your final introduction. I work for the Wikimedia Foundation and I live in India. And but here I have had a couple of conversations about this. So it's not a question. It's just, I think it's, it's wonderful to see in a way like a cross regional collaboration, you know, whether we have easier from our perspective that we have some as well, which is also something that we're looking at from how do we make different regional communities work with each other. And if this would be kind of like, I don't know, like an example of that, build on further from it, because you see, technically, it's a straight and Sudan, it's South Asia, and ECM, you know, we're from our regionalization perspective. And I think it's amazing. So of course, we will continue to offer any help possible, hopefully find some time and independence in more place. But I just want to say it's amazing what you're doing. If you really do need a, you do want to build a community in Sudan, that's one of the things that goes forward. It was very, sort of an attribution, but I think Can I just say that there are editors in Bhutan, and they're all working sort of disparately and I've contacted various and so it's sort of all there. And there is a Bhutan Wiki project page that started years ago long before me. And there's all sorts of somebody's done so much for probably the guy who did the set up Zonka. There's lists, there's a whole, it's just waiting to kind of get chipping forward. Thank you so much. Let's give another round of applause to Dr. Nguyen. Now, we're discussing a very interesting project in the database related to the US Pointless, along with the impact for queer and Joyce, we are going to discuss about the data and independent art space in Taiwan. So here is Kani's media admin from contemporary art theory, master researchers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do need a time to talk about the national reference. Don't use that. Time based media are conservative and research. So without further ado, the standard choice. Hello. I'm Confuyang, this is Joe. Yes. I'm going to use Chinese to speak. The English part is on the BPD, so don't worry. BPD is all, it's all okay. Everybody knows my English is very bad. right not very very bad so I use Chinese yeah okay you go back to today but the chine year Uh, in 2002 and then we we we went back to the committee and made a burnout at the emergency and then we did this plan and then this is the new new artificial space then our plans of course can be divided into 3 first we are on vc on the inside to enter the art team and then the information on the art team is to be an artist and then gradually expand to other different types of materials, such as documents, books, works, exhibitions, etc. For example, you can see artists, works, or artists and publishing things, his book of paper, right? Linking data, okay. Okay, the second goal of the project is Wikidata Taiwan Society. We hope to get the opportunity to get the technology of Wikibass. What is Wikibass? To ask the German people. After we actually get the technology, we hope to give this technology to other professional users. Then you can see the picture. It is the project of Wikimacy. And we link it to Wikidata. And Wikidata to Wikibass. I won't say the English word for Wikibass. Then Wikibass link to Linking Open Data Web. Fuck. Okay, right. It's Linking, Linking, Linking, Linking. And I have said, this is a future. Then there is the first and second goal. We hope through this Linking Open Data technology, we can let Wikibass, Wikidata in Taiwan's art circle, just get in, just get into the art circle, and then be able to get into the discussion of the art field and its ecological changes. So what? Linking to the art circle. Okay, but then, that Linking Data, Wikidata to, Linking Open Data to Museum, blah blah blah, Glend. Okay? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay, then the results we have so far can be divided into three. First of all, we have seen 4,500 pieces of information. 4,500 pieces of data. These are all based on the data of the artist. Including the data of the artist, his birthplace, his education, or his personal relationship. Then we think that if we do this, we can provide a basic study of the art field. Then this is, you know, Wikidata page, on piece, Wang Junjie, he's my teacher's friend. Teacher's friend. Not my teacher. Okay, then in the Wikidata part, we also chose a few Taiwanese magazines. Art magazine, and then the number of entries, for more than ten years, the document, and then, you can imagine, is to put on piece and page Linking, you can, you can do the search, research, right? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Don't talk about this on the stage. Oh, so this, you know, Wikidata page for on piece, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, okay. Then the second part, we are also in the Wikidata part of Wikidata, our Wikidata community has really got to Wikidata's technology. Then after that, we hope to be able to discuss how to enter the content of Wikidata, and then, at the same time, to fight this part, to discuss, to think. Then the third part of the plan, which is also in the part of the plan, we hope to be with Ryan, with the library, with the library, to learn more about their experience, and then use these experiences to promote the changes in the Taiwan art circle, and then, that's it, change, some change. Oh, this is, Rhino on base is, it is based on Wikidata's data pool. Then in the part of the plan, this part is more serious, more serious to talk about. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Okay. Oh, just like that, I'm here to talk about Wikidata's theory. Different people in the field, everyone knows, everyone in the field is independent, but their nose is connected to each other. Then I think in Wikidata's work, we can share three areas. The first one is the plan, the second one is the community, the third one is the relevant one. First of all, I want to mention the part of the project plan. When Wikidata plans, it mainly focuses on the content, the content development, for example, it focuses on the information, data, or various media, etc. Then this is the main goal of our work in the past. But there is a problem that we found in this plan is that if we only pursue the development of a Wikidata project, for some of the relevant people, it is not the main goal. Then, because these interests are not necessarily taking care of these things, but it is the main goal. Then if we keep strengthening the content development, it will limit our influence. Then the second part is about the community. I think the community is mainly thinking about the development of its content. Then, then I also mentioned some basic technical capabilities, like Wikidata, Wikidata's software editing capabilities, etc. Then in the past, we often put the content development of the Wikidata project and the community's brave development together. But in some of the projects, like the Wikidata project, or some very professional or professional activities, we can see that for the community, there are many people with different aspects, and then for these different professional people, to provide services, the courage to develop the community is more important. Then finally, in the first part of the relationship, I think this is the most serious, and it is also Asia, Asia, the biggest problem is that we have a lot of different situations with the European and American regions. For example, a lot of units are not willing to open up these projects. Then the workhorse in our process will affect our work, willing to invest in these projects or these editing directly, etc. Then in the case of the social security, in the case of the Asian and American media movement, it may be more directly involved to affect the relationship. That's right. OK. Then Xiao Jie The three people who are involved in the Wikidata project are all different, but it doesn't mean that we have to have a common opinion, whether it is the opinion of the person who is involved or the part of the content of the project both of them are not good. So what should we do? I don't know. Oh, no. What should we do? Maybe we can try to ask ourselves what is the future of the 15 years that we want to be together? The future is not just our Wikidata media movement, it is the future of all of you including the whole future of the so-called world. Then our relationship with Wikidata is very clear. Our purpose and purpose of thinking habits are different. But we still have a way to link it. So we are going to finish our work. We are going to open one question for the person who is going to hand it. Yes. What's wrong? Do you want to challenge me? No, I won't. Can you just please say that? And what other aspects do you have? I will ask you three questions. You have the biggest challenge in the evolution. And then you have established which partner relationship and then what kind of relationship is between these partner relationships. Challenge. Challenge. Challenge. No challenge. Challenge. Or all the challenges. No, equal say. Equal say. Can you say it? So he's concerning about is it okay to speak up here? Lyndon, watch out. Well, first of all, we are an artistic party. Mainly an artistic party. Then the biggest problem is like I mentioned earlier, different western countries different western media museum and museum already have complete information. Then their classic or the fund will teach us that the system has the most or a common future to open these materials or to send them out. But for our Taiwanese artists there are a lot of their materials are actually not complete or not complete. So that means they have to do the information they have to do through the materials. Yes. But the materials must be spent on time and money. Then they will not want to develop. This is a the biggest problem. So because this project is mainly focused on our archive, our data, but by learning from like western contexts which were mostly introduced from all the beginning of movement, it is not really workable in our compact. It's because most of the museum in Taiwan that like people who hold those are data, their data are not complete. And usually a lot don't have a lot of need to do a lot of ad for before it turns into a data. And that also costs take longer time to be open. And my my own personal opinion is because I also work in the museum before. And those those data are mostly not in public domain. And cleaning up data also not with my archive for most museum and glam workers. So it's kind of like stop stop it there. And so for him who complete doing the data cleaning and looking and we we found it quite easily to get all these data that we can get right now. But it doesn't mean that we get everything done. It's only being sad. There is only very few a lot of that for us available to put into the data. And there are still a lot of other other data need to we have to wait for them to clean up digitized and then we can do that. Eugene? Maybe we can save it for yeah in the end of the sessions before we have time. Yeah. We can do that. Yeah. And let's give a round of applause to once we get to the finish and then we can go to the end. Thanks. We will be taking quite a little bit for you to come over to the stage. See the director of the analysis and policy of circuitry or a load and all of that access evidence platform for public policy and practice. I look at the professor who did already work in the government and I think he's I've had him here since back in the day about public access to public evidence based policy without any for the study tour. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to quickly personally acknowledge that we are on the unceded lands of the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. Let me see. Well, okay, cool. I've got two computers. I'm going to talk about the Wikimedia Alliance Fund project we started a few months ago and in particular how I've gone about engaging with the Wikimedia community to date and how we can do more of that as the project progresses. This is a bit of context on new to the Wikimedia community. So this has been really eye-opening and positive experience. So just a little bit about the analysis and policy observatory. APO was established 20 years ago by academics at Swingburne University based in Melbourne. That was in 2002 one year after Wikipedia was found good. APO is Australia and New Zealand's largest open access repository of policy and research reports and other material published by organisations. This is also known as Grey Literature. Because Grey Literature is not published by professional publishers it is scattered across the internet. So at APO we source this content and we create metadata for it so that it's discoverable and searchable on our open access repository as well as across the internet on internet search engines. APO also plays an important role in disseminating policy and research. We've got 15,000 newsletter subscribers across Australia and New Zealand and we don't have a guaranteed source of funding so we raise income from a range of products and services. We have a full-time editor who sources and catalogs content and we have more than 39,000 resources. In addition to this anyone can sign up for a free APO account and add published material to APO. This is moderated by our editors and it has to meet our content policy. So APO's vision is that society is improved through evidence-based decision making because there is open access to policy and research and so our mission is to make policy and research as accessible as possible. So APO does play a central role in Australia, New Zealand's free knowledge ecosystem. So thanks for commanding for these slides. So here are just some examples of the types of reports we have on APO. So you can see here we have major international non-government and quasi-government organisations such as the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the United Nations, the OECD and we also have reports from universities, research institutes, government departments and agencies, community groups and advocacy organisations as well. I know that some feedback I've got from the WIC community is not to solve advocacy organisations but that gets a bit tricky because advocacy organisations are realising more and more that to put a good case forwards they need to engage with and commission rigorous research and get academics to produce research to help their work as well. So our project being funded through the Alliance Fund is called the Missing Link Incorporating Policy Reports into the free knowledge ecosystem and the aim is to improve the presence of valuable policy and research material and coverage of important policy issues in Wicca media. Policy reports and material published by organisations is not a common type of publication both in Wikipedia at the moment the most common type of sources the new media websites and commercially published material such as books and journal articles but there are three reasons I think material published by organisations that aren't commercial publishers is a useful source of information for Wikipedia. The first is currency so while news media contains the latest and most up to date information it often doesn't present in-depth research or policy on a particular issue and while books and journals do fill this gap the time taken to publish this leads to a loss of currency it takes a lot of time. The second is accessibility so the other issue with the reliance on academic sources is that they are often written for an academic audience whereas material published by organisations is usually written for the general public and it often is a great source of academic work so academics when they want to reach a wider audience will publish their own material and finally small organisations such as those that are First Nations led or from the Pacific and the other unrepresented communities are more likely to publish their own material rather than through commercial means. So what we're aiming to do in this project is the first step is using APO's database to verify the most reputable and notable publishing organisations and sources beating APO report metadata into wiki data and then the next step will be then to have an editor phone on a public policy issue to try and use those sources in wiki data. Okay so the first step in this project was to determine of the publishing organisations we have on APO which ones can be considered reliable so that we can upload their report metadata to wiki data. So the most obvious place we went to was the reliable sources notice board where discussion takes place on whether a publication is reliable. However we faced a bit of resistance from the community on the notice board in getting an assessment on whether an organisation could be considered as a reliable source this is because this decision is often the result of assessments of many articles that have been sourced in Wikipedia so that was fair enough. So from there we were directed to the village pump and wiki project called source metadata where we asked for some more advice on how we were going to determine what a reliable source was. Throughout this process we uncovered and keep uncovering various guidelines on the subject of reliability and sometimes they don't always match up for our consistent and always prevent it in a slightly different way. So when we're engaging me in these forums I didn't get as many answers as I was expecting. In fact I just got a lot of information and you can't do that but I was able to send that information and turn it into an approach that we could use. So overall my experience was collaborative and I received some positive feedback and as someone who is very passionate about evidence-based decision making I was very happy to receive this little piece of feedback here which someone said user 6920314337 you can hear thank you and they said your candle and willingness to apply fact-based principles is refreshing so I thought that's really good. Well okay so when I presented yesterday I received some useful feedback and interesting viewpoints about whether I should upload everything from ideal wiki data and some people were saying you should just put it all onto wiki data everything you've got on IPO but I've also over the last two days heard some stories of where there has been use of unreliable sources which have been really difficult to manage and to stop as well so at this stage I think it's important to do a bit of filtering and see how we go first up so by being selective I think we will support the use of reliable sources as well as make the life of editors will be easier as well for their work so our approach would be to select reports that could be given the no consensus rating that's used on reliable sources not as board so it would be reliable depending on the context and an in-text attribution will be required so our first step is that we're going to select a number of publishing organisations across Australia and New Zealand that we have on IPO and we'll be excluding advocacy organisations at this stage because that's a clear direction we've got and the second step is then to select make sure that the reports of those publishing organisations could be considered reliable so we'll be focusing on policy statements and reports that are based on research just so that we're excluding those opinion-based articles and reports so the most important project is encouraging the use of these new reports that will be in Wikidata and so we have proposed to conduct an editor's phone but I'm really interested in exploring other ways we can support editors to use these sources in Wikidata to create new content on public policy issues for Australia and New Zealand one idea I had was to curate a thoughts or bibliographic list on a particular issue so we say these are all the sources we're having with Wikidata on homelessness and so then when someone wants to go and create or edit content on homelessness they'll have the sources there in easy reach so that was just one idea and Toby Hudson who was here also suggested that maybe we could have separate to this project have a button on APO on every report on APO that would enable you just to click a Wikibutter which enable you to source that material on Wikipedia so I'm looking about any other ideas you may have so I'll just end by saying I hope this is the beginning of a very beautiful relationship between Wikimedia and APO within the free knowledge ecosystem and we hope that this one is going to be very useful Unfortunately, due to a constant of time we need to end this sentence but don't worry after this we have another sentence and allow me to hear a couple of appreciation for our speakers today from the community so I would like to play all the speakers from Let's give a big round of applause to all the speakers today