 Good morning Karibu, back to Y254TV. Just in case you get into driver's, I'm sorry, you've missed the first segment with Sakwa, but you've not missed a lot because we still have so much in store for you. But this week's episode of Spot on Tech, we get to feature Keith Baraka who is the CEO of Peter Technologies and Grammy Properties, Karibu Sena. Tell us, what is Grammy Properties and CEO, because Nini says you're CEO of Peter Technologies and Grammy Properties. So we can probably start from the point here. What is... Ya, kwanza. I'm wondering where do I want to start. Ya, kwanza, maya piliuki. We can start with ya, kwanza. Kwanza, kwanza. Peter Technologies, it's an AI-based company, kusabu, when I was building the company, one, nili realize kenya we have so little AI-based companies, nazi nili kwa AI, artificial intelligence. Okay, personally nili flote na mishwa someone flote. We need to come back in a chart GPT. Oh, okay. So we are a company that use such systems to develop our apps, our games and everything and we discover that it's actually effective. It's effective. We know we're sound out here. So I'm still trying to move on from the fact that Peter, like not Peter kukula. See kukula. Nizi na pandachi kula bahana. Ay, mimi, I'm here. I soap the pizza whatever and I knew asubuit kwa na pizza in the studio. Ay, ay, ay. No, it's just a company name. So why did you choose that name though? I love, I love pizza. I really love pizza. Like that's my go-to meal at any given moment that I am ordering, take out or anything, I will go for pizza. So that's why you named it. Interesting, interesting. So when did you start the company? 2019. Give us the story, like towards starting up the company. I love stories. Well, I once told my mum that I'd never be employed. Never. And so naji afrikan parents onakwa nga like you must be employed. How dare you say you'll never be employed and I was like I will never be employed and they thought I was joking about it and out here people of age unanda kutafta jabu na ambwa. We need five years experience na umetokatushu liya unanda five years experience aji asa. So I was like, I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to create my own venture in such a way that I can create for people jobs and I will never actually ask for people to experience five years experience una pelika api. Experience unanda kutal kuwa na kunya chaitu yanini, chaia kompunizu miya kata naban. So I have students who are like work for me and I outsource a lot actually. Okay, um in a process, okay. So um the company was started because you didn't want to get employed and now you have students. You don't have full-time employees? No I do, but I think you don't go sad. Why? I'm targeting students kusabu ma studi api vinge ona stragu. Ona na bile kumredo na survive on popcorn na nini na spinach. I make sense ma zi. So you want to mix. You want to actually make life bearable for them. Therefore atokim lipa maybe that 30k or that 40k on a job done, it's better than when they are getting nothing. They are surviving on health below. So why of all the things you could have done like in terms of unge develop kitu ingine or another software? Why did you choose AI? AI is a future. You know kaziya tomorrow. So every app kiaenda it always has a machine learning sequence. It understands who you are and what you do. Kenda YouTube is the way your feed is different from my feed. Wekuna bitu zi niuna taftanga zi nini nini api kia kuna jokubonuna ochingi. And then kuna mimi. So it has the use of AI machine learning to actually understand what you like, create an algorithm for it, and then bring back the information. That's why I chose to take that direction because I want to personalize my apps with people. I must say I'm working on some two apps sita, sema gina sita, sema the concept or anything, but they are using AI to better the lives of people. So allow me to understand or even for the purpose of our viewer. AI doesn't just deal with chart GP, what does it, what does it, or in case you just getting to hear this, AI is artificial intelligence. So what entails AI? You know sometimes to Nongen we assume that everyone really understands what we are talking about and then someone is wondering. So AI, so ni, ni, ni, ni chart GTP pe kia kia or something? Apaana. AI, actually kutia kitambu. If you like movies, there is a movie kitambu, Yawil Smith, elko ineto AI robot. Ok, seme. Ok, that was the first time, like personally I came into contact with the concept of AI. It's artificial intelligence, it works like there are some things called neural networks, also known as the brain of a computer in ways that it actually understands and learns. If you've used iPhone, there is Siri, there is Bixby for Samsung, there is Google Assistant for other Android phones, there is also Amazon Alexa. Those are, ni kama AI in its own way. Now AI is a, it's a computer created to actually understand the mind of a human being and run with learning, kama vilibina damwata learn. So kukonaka gadget, dania yo, every once there is a kabrain in every once, what do you call it? Phone. Yes, gadget. In every once gadget, I was looking for that one. Whether it's a phone or it's an iPad or it's a laptop. Or it's a watch. That keeps, keeps, keeps tabs on what you do. So what happens when you have been, when I get your phone, they start using it, how fast does that change? If you get my phone, you have to use it for a while, at the duration of time. Fully call. A kuna vile utama katoa subu mojuchu kusimu yangu tu miwa now and you expect that preferences to change. Maybe a day, once you have used it for that whole day, it knows what you are doing. Therefore, it will give you suggestions on that which you are doing. That brings me to this, to something I have seen. Maybe I'll be on a call talking to someone about something or for us women, we have this apia flow. Of course, you're an enias of the developer so you know. So there's this apia women called flow. So I'll probably be talking to a woman or talking to a friend or something, telling them about the changes I'm experiencing in my body or something. You know, maybe I missed a period or I'm here fidgety about pregnancy and then when I go to check that up or when I'm just using my food, I notice it brings me Stochi chulupuotu na ongelea or what we were talking about is what is displayed on that up or the suggestion it brings. How does that work? So kuna kwa gana in up notifications. So I've never seen it on iPhone though, but I've seen it on Android a lot. It even actually asks for access to your calls. Yes, it does. Therefore it can listen in on your calls. It knows what you're talking about. Then it will give you like suggestions on what to do. Way later. Ita kumukatwa nitsu. Does it tap into your mic? Yes, it does. Is it safe? No, it's not. But it's kind of safe. It's creepy. Oh yes, it is creepy. Nivele, you know, Google has to listen in. Apple listens in. Security measures. Then nili kwa na bomb place flani and this is what I did with it. And if you check in that place, maybe it will blow up. Ita kamiwa. You dare do that. Most likely Atasafarikom actually listens in. So you will hear maybe static sounds of sorts. At that point, they are actually paying attention to you. Gotcha. So this when we use, I'm really learning a lot when we use our phones. Because I've seen the things I see. I'm like allow, don't allow or um Siji what would like to track your no, siji notifications or track. I see it on my phone a lot. There's something I will open an app and then it will ask me, siji allow this to track siji what then I'm always like allow or don't allow. What are those things about? It's allowed. We see them on our phones, but we don't understand them. Now you have the knowledge to explain to us. You're giving, it's like, we come over to you and you come over and say, ma'am, I don't want you to end up with your friends. It's either you to give them permission or to decline that permission. That's the same way it works. It comes and asks you for permission. Therefore, and because and I know this for a fact, there is no one who can understand the services, the police services. I don't know. Literally no one who will actually do it. Yes. We just. Oh, yes. Yes. Agree. Yes. Yes, agree. But that's what I do personally. Personally, I don't. I read. I read it through. But let me ask you, I will read it, but I won't understand nothing. So what's the point of reading it? There are policies you will actually understand. So what's the point of, like what's the point of having those policies? Those policies are there for No. 1 Google, Play Store and App Store. They usually ask for those policies so that they see whether it's safe. There is. Okay. Around January, I was trying to upload an app on Play Store. Baka say, I'll see you upload kwa sabu those specific policies zili kwa zina kataan. And my guys are still working on it. So that it's a game. It's a very simple game. Offline is what it is. But the policy, kuna mahali, I think kuna mojitoa li kwa seya. Google ikanda kufkira its pedofile. Ni iwa. They are poll not work. So it's just a system where it wants to ensure the safety of the user. Because AI is land. If you've used AI, it definitely will go learning most of the time. If you go online, uta ona adds. So zingini uta kwa kyesi wone adds zawituna penda. Mara kilimol. A kilimol li kikam inakuletea masimu pekea kia umikuki saach simu. Or mi mimi mekuletea mekuletea dstv. Na dstv inakuletea the food channel. Mikuki saach chakula. So it lands. It lands from what you do. And the more it lands, the more it evolves. The more it evolves, it adapts. It has a point. It adapts to kama. There was an AI built by Microsoft sometime back called Taj. Taj was a female. Taj was placed on Twitter just randomly. Alafi kakwa elan. Eli kwa trolled baka ikanza kukwa racist. Ika kwa racist so bad and vulgar and everything that they had to suspend it and like stop the development. Oh wow. So that brings me to this point where we see allow Google to locate your location. So do you want to name your location to... I've seen that notification a lot especially when I want to check something maybe in Google. Mups. Let me just do it right now so that I tell you what it says. When you Google a place like maybe you see a a hotel flani so nikiandika it will tell me allow Google to nini your location to... Elitwa nini? To find your location. Yes allow Google to nini your location. I'm like why does it ask what? Okay is it dangerous to me? Does it pose any risk to me? No it doesn't. Actually it's a security measure. It wants to know where you are so that it can give you maybe you're looking for a direction. It will give you the exact like it will pinpoint you from where you are to where you want to go how long it will take what traffic is there it will give you all that. Yeah so this is what it says. Google.com would like to use your current location. The website will use your precise location because Safari currently has access to your precise location. So don't allow or allow. In that scenario what am I supposed to do? Entirely your choice personally I never allow. So okay So what's the repercussion of allowing and not allowing? Allowing inafanya wa jyukon yuuko. Okijyukon yuuko there is a lot I learnt this the hard way at the time I was looking for I lived with a kufanya to online getting extra cash upon a pali and then I found a site which allows me to earn from reviewing staff but it will quasitia panju. The first time when I placed Kenya on a jyukituli kataku in Patiakazi like in Nyambia 2 days nothing we like we not even hiring so I was like okay so I reset the system when Google actually asked me to find my location the next time I said no nani kawasha vpn vpn ikaw nisha niko us in Patiakazi Oh wow It's quite interesting now I am understanding a lot of things I see on my phone I am like allow don't allow I am always like ok ina kaji me for lack of a better like for lack of knowledge let me just say that out of ignorance me am always don't allow don't allow because we will go panhanzanga kujambia maybe probably it's someone who wants to hack my phone or my data goes out there to the wrong hands but is there is there a relationship between what you do on your phone and those allows don't allows whatever 100% so do they have access to what I am doing on my phone not always unless they really need to get access for your kiyo data and everything they never bother about it so this brings me to a very touchy subject adult content we find ourselves either they are there that brings me to adult content and Betty that is gambling gambling content you will realize it tells you are substantiated here that you're 18 years or older and then you tell you tell it okay then it keep rolling and then it bring something else and bring something else does that pose a risk that one is very risky actually now where you get the viruses where hackers wanna kwa gatoa me kawa na kungoja ukwendoa na kwa kwa kwa metunia at some point I was a hacker and we usually use like a technology called steganography where we put photos have you known apatanga kaka kapicha kaka add kamapo evo lafu wewe na kere rea kutuyo ate una ibu sa basu metu patia every access to your phone like that or every access to your device evo tu na kaka evi una masini meh na kukufa una shindwa kuna enda kuna mse tuflanya na kutesa mahali and most of the time it will lose data a lot of data for you wow might I have been hacked come to think of it because my data nowadays every single human being has been hacked myself included don't me I hacked back so those of us that don't know how to hack back uh what is any banner that can be evo but everyone has been hacked one way or another there's a point I realized that I was losing data very fast very fast because now I buy buy 30 GB for a month I realized that 30 GB in my 30 GB will spend like 25 days there are about 25 26 days but now I'm buying 30 GB twice thrice one month kwa ni? in Naisha within 14 days I'm not browsing I'm not doing nothing there's nothing but I don't understand why where my data in and out nika close nika restart nika up refresh nika fanyaki like itu nothing so I might have been hacked just tell me the hard truth I beg you so we'll just plain plain literally we'll see moshi ako anymore either you reset it and start again or orunumutu ingine you give the AMI address and everything all together so in the scenario where someone is hacked what are they supposed to do usually if you reset your phone it changes the serial number therefore we are unable to get it so you just go ahead and reset the whole phone you just suck up you reset everything kubali kuhluz data it nisawatu by the way man ouch hi I bought my phone in 2019 when it was just it was released where we kwa market at that time it was the talk of town so I have things I have kept from 2019 especially conversations I am a keeper from 2019 to 2023 I am usually thinking about losing it and I am like okay so what someone would do in the case that they are hacked is resetting the entire phone failure to reach you coexist with your hacker hehehe we just come to an agreement we know there are some places where there are there are some places where there are some places where you just have to do that what's the worst that can happen in a hacking case in a hacking case someone has hacked your phone the worst that can happen you phone if you using iPhone kuna kwa ganaia piwa wallet yeah wallet wallet holds at actually any like google based device wallet holds your cards it has your maybe passports your tickets everything your cards are there your cards contain cash they do onesalipa onesalipa me me like purchases maybe by tapping your phone and everything pay a hacker kuna that same access as you onajwa aka aka aka muatua na chukwa loan bank out i mean and there is nothing you will do jeez there is a outrage nothing you will do there was a time December I was in school in dobes I was finishing up up my masters so standard chartered wali lock nini akwantia at some point I had to fly back home to come and sort it out ukuksababu mimi ni branchia uku akuna wili nasenda branchia dobes and everything so I had to come back here and then they actually told me that they locked every account jamse munyalikwa abroad for longer than two months cause there was a hack case of someone who lost five million in the account yalitumi wa email was someone hacked yes yalitumi wa email akafungu wa email u email ikari direct wumse ikari direct hakka kubanku wumse yalitu wa do simchayezu like yes my face the transaction ilishiku at a point it was at around 4.6 but ilikwa isha yanda and there was no going back so libedi ni me gaza my cards and everything to actually accommodate my international stay so that to see someone he sasa lemi ask you what will you say common one and she does because now someone like me have never known to twikwa exist with our phones and we could go exist with ahakas you know we we do things and we allow we allow we allow or we don't allow allow or we read it and we don't or we don't even read it we are ignorant we go agree agree yes yes yes okay fine you know you saw that you tick the box is very fast you move on like you want to reset or restart your phone or something and it keeps asking where you're changing your google address google will keep taking you this long list of so what will you advise such a person because now we are one inching when you add address or knowledge number one google will always try to assist you you know man on all these angles as well number two try ata kama ata kama uta uta uta somatu kiasi soma find out like the repercussions before you actually accept or deny number three aki usigusa add kuktan add wachana na yuap wando kaisach sa zingina lakini wachana na yuap number four if you can actually have a two-step verification please do that it actually how do you activate it usually if you are on WhatsApp two-step verification in a kuanga kwa settings actually for everything in a kuanga two kwa settings mahali so on all the applications you have like check settings check settings kama iko kama haiko it was not built with it to mesema two steps verification not even explained nini two step verification is if you're using an online based app it's where it sends you a one-time person OTPs to your text or email if you maybe sanasana if you're doing transactions that's when it will come or maybe it's your Instagram in a kuagana specific six-digit code that changes after every one minute that's also effective for any Google situation or Facebook social media basically why hey I think we need we need a whole session to talk about to talk about a lot a lot of things when I'm being told time is not on our side and I want to ask what's what's the data protection data protection has been something that has been talked about especially this week a lot on the on the news it's been making it's been making headlines of course you've told us how we can be data protected now is there a way is there a way we can help someone who's already in a situation yes mukwambia to like just research your machine if that doesn't work is the normal reset there's a soft reset your settings and everything that will never work but don't come here too quickly hard reset your machine if you can use a laptop if you can use aoneza and a kofoni like waluu in your penyo neza by simu and everything they will reset the phone for you or the laptop for you laptop yakin yakin history to fly though that's a thing because you have to change the whole operating system place a new one then get your data lakin yuki rudisha data will be careful because that's where is the malwa is in a guzmeji feature so what's what's the difference between data privacy and data protection data protection kujichunga to like data privacy it's just kujichunga entirely privacy is just kumavi leoneza kwa na phone and you have privacy glass kumaka kwa mat mumsimu nyakkunda kwa kuhona but that is just privacy and then protection is atakama na ona kuna kutu neza fanya nai do you think we need to have talks on data protection in our institution so it's just civic education yes how effective will that be very effective kusabu I'm in school even for the cybersecurity classes and everything you thought and then you told whatever you do that information is on you now if you have integrity then you have to touch on that too but if you choose to become a block hathaka well all the money is well it's a whole different thing no so I feel like it's it would actually assist kusabu number one what you have at a like kumafile kupata data yako mze kupata data yako sayi sayi zikarewe kumapati amptua kudiyem sende yo asya kudiyem na umptua tainela kusumbua kuna information yako so therefore you protect your data in such a way that don't tell everyone everything about you sende yo people need to know that people need to know the importance of keeping yourself and your staff private private enough not to just get into the public kuna kuhu kuna kuhu ile ile kupata na in public kuna ile kuhu ushe piti ata uka gongua lafu kafkahu mukapata na hora movie huna simu hia hia jizai and now you can and because if they take your phone they have everything of yours because at that time I just walked into a cyber and locked the phone and then I got to liya around a week nika no na simu ingi nika chikwanda tawata nika yaka and you get that that phone vile me fungu wa ivo umu sayi ata hezi yuza ata aki yuza ata yuza na dautat tawata na kwa menda losata watia poind hei I think it's it's it's just a whole conversation we people need to have to protect themselves so what else do you do I really state I'm the CEO of Grime Properties but it's a co-CEO situation co-director situation with my sis Ayanga sis we do reviews on YouTube and it will agree me property show and we also sell houses we develop amazing wa I feel like we need to wrap this conversation but I'm still shocked I'm still in that place of artificial intelligence it's beyond what we think you know when someone mentions artificial intelligence I used to re-chat JT Pindu yakuja ni JTP amani GPT GPT GPT yes that's what comes to my mind but it's I've realized that it's quite a whole it's a very broad subject it's a whole ecosystem yeah it's a very broad subject it's not just chat JT P GP GPT I'm done it's over it's over it's over it's over I'm done it's over but I'd want you to give us a patting shot stay safe don't give everything of yours to people I say like it's yours see how if you want to make a living of yourself you can ask for more check it but I don't want it because I've got my job you know like it's yours it's not theirs keep your staff private keep your maybe relationship private keep keep your life private in general hey Emel stop sharing who's my talk my share Ai learn who you are around you like observe before you buy that you can learn pa wanti uku aruu na ana Kumoco uku aruu tu 9meza� cosa Pigakiel ilee wote kwe ahetesin wenda w � giveaway na shigou Towomanen this env firm Mamawбu ma uku na kiyawa It's important.You don't only... 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