 Welcome to Trophy TV. I thought me and Cam would just have a very brief chat about Moise Keane, who is rocked back up at Everton, looking sharp in his Everton training gear, full of smiles. But yeah, I was delighted some people. Cam obviously went out on loan last season to PSG, scored about 17-41 for them, tweeted at the end of the season, he hopes to see the fans again next season for PSG, which is fine. But at the moment finds himself back at Finch Farn, because apparently PSG only wants to loan them again for another season. Everton had against the idea, rightly so. And that's three years left on his current Everton deal. So what do we do with them? Do you think there's any way Moise Keane stays and what do we do with them right now? I think there's a way Moise Keane stays. There's a lot of strong rumours wasn't he from for Bichon Amman and one of the journalists last week is the state that Rafael Benitez wants to keep Moise Keane. And that was very much the story with Carlo Ancelotti as well. Let's not forget Carlo Ancelotti openly come out and said that he'd like to have kept Moise Keane, but it was the player who wanted to move. And no stories that we're seeing in the news recently are also saying that Everton will only let him go for a permanent deal. They're not interested in a loan, which I'm happy about, because a loan deal does nothing for Everton Football Club. It effectively sends him out for no money. He comes back with one less year on his contract and therefore he's worth less than what he was 12 months ago. As a player, I think Moise Keane probably does still want to move to PSG. Obviously he had a very good season there last season. Look, he's playing next to some of the best players in the world. He's playing in Champions League quarterfinals at the new camp and scoring. So I say this often about Everton players. This isn't a lad who's grown up in Evertonian. His dreams not of being to have played in a good or some park or might have been to play in the Premier League, but certainly not to play forever. And he will have the attempt of playing for the best teams in the world next to the best players. And he was doing that at PSG, but the reality of the situation is Moise Keane can want to move back to PSG. If PSG aren't willing to pay what Everton want for them and aren't even willing to put any sort of payment a bit on the table, then for me Everton have got to stand strong. And I think a bit of sort of confidence we can take from the situation is that it's a new manager now. Moise Keane might have been coming back to Finch Farm and might have been thinking he was coming back to Finch Farm five or six weeks ago to come back to Carlo Ancelotti. He wasn't interested in it, didn't really like it, didn't have a relationship with it, didn't play him, wasn't using him well. Whereas now he's coming back to Finch Farm with a new manager. Rapha Benitez might have sat down with Moise Keane and gone look, this is where we want to use you. You'll get Premier League experience, we want to keep you there. Over the course of the next week or so Moise Keane might go from, yeah, I absolutely want to go back to PSG. Actually, do you know what? It's not too bad. He looked full of smiles at USM Finch Farm. He turned up as we would expect him to because he's been paid and he's contracted to the club. Doesn't always mean you turn off the train. Doesn't always mean, no, I've shown over the last 24 hours. I assume that Moise Keane doesn't want to create any sort of fuss or any sort of drama. He probably does still want to move and if he does still want to move, he turns up and he does what he has to do and he just lets that be now. Do you think though, like looking at him when last time when he was here for the first season and obviously don't forget, he's a young lad, move country, come in with Marco Silver as the manager. Probably come in thinking he was going to be the main striker because at that moment in time Dominic Alvaluwen had an established himself either, the pair of them were kind of fighting for that position and then it didn't quite go the way he wanted. He didn't score early on and that's always a problem trying to settle and then obviously Antialotti came in and but do you think in that first season did you see enough at that time to convince you that he could do it forever in the Premier League? No, but I also think he sort of fell a little bit under the Josh King seatment of that he was utilised at the end of games a lot of times and look, don't get me wrong, he wasn't amazing obviously. He had a couple of games, I remember Bournemouth last game of the season although we were absolutely horrific, he had a decent game there, Newcastle you know that game which is notorious for why it was, he had a decent game in that game as well, scored his first goal. But a lot of times he'd come on and certainly in pre-season last season before he moved to PSG he looked really poor in games, he'd sulphured in the cup, in the fleet when the touch was off and that was his big chance to sort of again come up against the team that he should have been. He'd scored a penalty in one of them and scored the goal where he couldn't flip it back to him yet. So he scored, he had an impact but he just, he didn't look happy and like you said I think there's a lot to be said about a player in an environment he was new to the country, he was new to the city. Global pandemic as well. Global pandemic, probably didn't have many people around in different environments and that's difficult, that's always difficult for any player or manager, probably why Rafferbonita is happy at everything because he knows the environment, he knows the city. But I think the most keen situation, it's a mad one isn't it because you've got the conversation about whether or not we keep him as a player and whether or not he can have an impact on everything football club and then you've got the FFP conversation about finances and can we really afford to keep him. I think we'll sell if we get a bid but if PSG aren't going to bid for him then who's going to bid for him, who's going to come in and instantly. That's the thing isn't it with this, is that if Everton were flush with money, as in you know it is what it is, we've seen some suggestion that PSG dash for a loan with a guaranteed purchase option at the end of next season for whatever it was £40 million. Doesn't do Everton any favours that's still low because we need the money now. We've seen Rafferbonita saying, it's mentioning on more than one occasion in his press conference when he met the press this week that financial restrictions, he mentioned it a few times, we know there's some financial restrictions. So that does change the conversation I think because I think if there was no financial restrictions Everton might want to keep him anyway and go no actually we're going to use him because you know Josh King's gone. Cengto Ocean will be gone, this summer whether he's recovered well enough to get a move or whether Everton let him go in January, he's not going to be staying, he's not going to be used by Rafferbonita as I don't think. And we do need another centre forward, we've got Dominic Alvertluban, we've got Retialis and he can play up there, that's it. You know Ella Sims is still an unknown quantity, done very well on known of Blackpool but you know does he need longer at another loan maybe. So Everton might want to keep Moise King but the fact that at this moment in time we face those restrictions we do want to sell them. And if PSG want them then they're going to, or Juventus who's been linked with as well, they're going to have to come in with £40 million bid to take them. That's it. That loosens the pastings then for Everton to be able to go and do the business they want to do. But I just wonder you just look at him and think you know he did score in the new camp and he put the ball in the net. He held his own in a very good team. He done well at times, I watched him come on against Bayern Munich and he worked that right hand side, he was well disciplined. It's one of them, I just wish the circumstances were a bit different and we could maybe just go yeah let's see if we can get more out of them. The flip side to that and a lot of our viewers have said on the comments and the chats that we've had is that he wants to go, he doesn't want to be, is he going to work hard enough, is he going to have his head on the game. But what you would say is if we get to the first of September and no one's bid for him then he's got a well cut next year. You know he's just made the provisional squad for Italy but didn't get in the 26 because Benucci come out and said he's a well bit of one there and he looks like he can't play football the next and he's got to get his consistency level up. He's missed out on a medal as well. He's missed out there that Italy go on on winning. So for him to get back in that squad he has to really get his head down and work hard if he ends up staying. I think from my perspective if he is going to go on Everton and I'm guessing the plan is that he possibly will still go then I hope it's sooner or later so we can get on with what we need to do. I think Moise Keane leaving Everton has been something that we've all sort of thought was an inevitability anyway. Even throughout this summer it's always very much being when we sell Moise Keane and we get that money and we'll be able to spend left, right and centre and now it's coming to the service that the discussion might be that we don't sell Moise Keane and that would leave us in a situation where we've got three options sell a lot of the deadwood for a lot of money which isn't going to happen. Blow the rules up the water and just spend what we want anyway which I can't see Everton doing as much as it would be nice or find some form of investment from somewhere else or the other sort of devil on the shoulder that we don't want to think about is sell one of the other high name big value players that wouldn't be ideal either. And if we don't hit any of them options then we're not going to be able to improve the squad in the way in which we need to but like I said the loan deal makes no sense because you loan them out. We spoke where before the possibility of Moise Keane staying become a thing and we all thought he was off anyway. We spoke about needing a back up striker and need somebody else to come in. So if we're going to loan him out and get no money for him we may as well just keep him and see how he can do as the back up striker and have him as an addition to the squad. But again for FFP reasons if he wants to leave then and Everton get a bid then you'd think selling him would be the best option but Everton might not get that bid PSG might go now, your Ventus might go now and also he might change his outlook, he might change his mind, he might have come into Everton like I said before thinking I don't want to be here. I don't want to be here. I had a couple of conversations with Rafa Benitez, had a little look at signing and thought actually he's in our war. I gave another shot in the Premier League, I want to prove myself like you said Wale Cup coming up and doesn't want to miss out on that. If you're looking at Italy now going I've just been in the provisional squad and missed out and I've gone on and won the competition and I could have picked myself up a medal. I don't want to be in that same situation come the Wale Cup. I want to be in there. But we'll just have to wait and see. Ultimately if we don't get a bid he's not going but I do worry where Everton then find the finances. Not the finances because we've got the money but find the regular room to be able to spend. I think you'd look at maybe one, maybe two players in if Moise Keane didn't leave but that's still leave. You've got right back, right wing, left wing, centre mid, maybe another centre back all later to improve on and if you're only nailing two of them there's still three positions that we haven't been able to improve on. I guess if that was the case he'd have to try to do some deals themselves off with Loan, with a purchase in summer and see if he could get round it but then I guess everybody else is in the same boat we are because of Covid and because no fans in the stadium and because it's still ongoing and reduced television terms because there's no fans in the stadium, every club is scratching round. Some more than others don't get me wrong but we even teams you'd expect to have huge pots of money ago and actually we haven't got as much as we thought we had. We've seen, it's not quite the same but we've seen back while the old are saying we mightn't be able to, they're talking over a hundred million by the way but him saying we mightn't be able to afford a strike at this summer. But the thing with City is they could easily bankroll a couple of them by letting a couple of the players go if they got greedy she could sell Mares for argument sake and not say it would but you know what Bernard or Silver or Gabriel has used to make a big pot of money back on it and that's a guess that's where everything falls down. It's like you've just said, you don't want to lose your cram jewels like Dean, Ritualis and Dominic Hall at Lewin. But it's a real possibility that I could come to that. Again know that the flip side to that though is it's going to come in for them, it's getting that investment in it. It's not like we're rejecting bids left right and centre is it? You know but you do look around and go well it's the trades on you know is, you've been like with Cula Barley, do you know what he want, Michael Keane or Jerry Mina? You know we need a different player, you know we need a winger, do you crystal palace one, Alex Owey and we'll have to hire, I'm not trying to hire cos he wouldn't be your advocate but I was just using as an example of like what you do because otherwise you're hoping that someone sees the good in some way up. The good in some way up players, that maybe you don't look at and you think well if we get 20 million for them and if we've got 5, 10 million for them too and we've got eight for it, you know all up you put that together and it enables you to go and buy who you need. It's going to be really interesting. It's going to be clever I suppose. The Moise Keane thing is, it is fascinating, I still feel like he will go to PS, I do, I just feel like if they want him they will find a way to buy him. Do you think they want him that desperately though cos I think if they wanted him that desperately we wouldn't be having this discussion it would be arguing about how much money they want willing to bid, IE 15 and then the goals of 20 and then the goals, not the fact that they just want to bring them back. I think Evan have set the store out to how much they want for them and so I mean it always seems to be the case with us is that other teams have players and those teams want them and you just go and buy them. And with us there seems to be a backstory of like old you haven't got as much money. You know they've just found 57 million for Chikimi. They've found when Aldham's wages and Donorham's wages quite easily. So if you really want Moise Keane put your money away, you might as well buy him now. But that's where I sort of think do you really want Moise Keane or is it just that we'll take him and we'll have him as an addition but all whether they'll go nah he's not 25, 30 million we'll walk away from that. Ever more 40 million we don't need that. 21, 28, Italian slaker. Do you think there's an element of PSG, hope and that Moise Keane will come back to Evan into time 40? Do you think there's a bit of an arm around him before he's left Paris going yet? You go over there, you tell him what you want to come here and we'll do the other way and therefore they're trying to save a bit of money or wriggle room. Mino Raiola'n innu. So there you go. And that's it. So there's not really more that needs to be said. Mino Raiola is someone who's a puppeteer very much with these players. The players just get put where he wants them. But he makes the most money? He makes the money and therefore, but the thing is he's contracted to Evan for another three seasons. So maybe there should be a different conversation if it was 12 months of time and he only had two years left. Evan was like, OK, let's cut our losses kind of thing. But three years the ball or the strength is still with the football club. So we'll have to see what happens. Who knows? Let us know what you think in the comment section below. Can you see any way that Moise Keane stays at Evan and makes it go with it? Do you think if he ends up staying, can you see him being moody? There's no suggestion that he is by the way, I'm just saying. Or do you just think he'll definitely go and it'll be sooner rather than later? It could work in the way that he gets his head down because of the way it works there. There's a boss season and then it ends up going for a lot more money next summer anyway. But we might want it now. Evan and I think want the money now unless someone thinks that Guilfee Sigurdans are amazing and what will be in comes in with two big fat bits for them then we can reinvest other ways. If they're not going to play so. Delf my fat 35 million, you never know. Who knows? Let us know what you think in the comment section below. Give it a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't. Big thanks to Cam, you want more videos. Join us over on Patreon, daily live videos each day. See you later.