 Thank you so much for being part of this morning conversation. Now my name is Ram Magukwa. If at all you're just joining us, this is why in the morning. And of course, right here on your number one youth station, Y254 TV, we're coming to you live from the broadcasting house here in Nairobi, Kenya. We are still streaming through our website and that's at www.kbc.co. K-E-4 slash Y254. We value your feedback, engage with us even as we continue with this morning conversation right here on why in the morning. Now, as I promised you earlier on, today we want to have a conversation concerning matters concerning the nation and you. And of course, concerning the nation today, we are around 53 days to the general elections that shall take place on August 9th, 2022. Of course, we have our own presidential aspirants. You know them. And today, I have brought one right here in studio together with the assistant, of course, the aspirant for the deputy president. Today, I am with Agano party presidential aspirant to my far right, David Maure Wahiga. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you, thank you. My brother Ramu, I appreciate being here. And of course, next to him you can see her is that is none other than Agano party deputy presidential aspirant that is Ruth Mutua. Thank you so much, Ramu. Right. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. It is a pleasure. And of course, we value your feedback as I said earlier on. The hashtag as always is why in the morning, tag me at Ram. Aguko is where you can be able to find me and at Y254 channel that is the official station handle youths. Let's talk about matters concerning you because they are here. Ask your questions and let us be able to answer them. I am already seeing people already giving their comments. I shall sample your feedback a bit later on as you continue with this conversation. This is why in the morning and of course, Karibuni San, as I said earlier on, let me start with you, Ruth. Let us get to know more about you because there's some who are saying and I shall read a bit about what they are saying online. They are saying that we don't know who these people are. We've not met them. We've not seen them. Who are they? Just in the nutshell, who is Ruth? Just something a bit more about yourself and why are you vying for this particular seat for the assistant, for the deputy president of the Republic of Kenya? Well, thank you very much, Ramu. I am Ruth and a graduate of Nairobi University. I have done a double major degree in communication and sociology. I have been in the past or I have been in the corporate world for over 10 years. Yes. All right. Why vying to be the deputy president of the Republic of Kenya? Why would you choose such kind of endeavor? I have put myself into this space because of the change that all Kenyans and all youths are desiring to achieve. I have given myself up for the sacrifice of the youth, of also that woman who is tired of the old ways, the old lack of organization in what is happening in the government. I am coming to align things for us. I am coming to be the voice that needs to be heard for the youth and his excellence he has picked me so that he is able to have a close ear to hear what the youth need to say because I am in touch with them, because I am in touch with the woman and I am able to articulate that directly on his desk and as opposed to being reported. Yes. Let me come to you David, I mean Maure. Let's talk about who you are, what you do and of course same question. Why vying for the position of the president of the Republic of Kenya? There is someone saying, you know what, Maure, you have wasting time. There are other people who should be vying, who are better than you. Why you? Thank you brother Ram, thank you listeners. I am a senior lawyer over 35 years of practicing law. I am a Pasi on Sundays when I am not competing in the afternoon or visiting a church, I will be there sharing the word of God. I am a father, I am a husband of one and I am a concerned Kenyan. I am also a youth because age is in the mind and I can challenge you brother Ram. Let you and I try a 100 meter dash that's when you know what you need. This is not my first time to run. I have ran for MP ship, for governor, for senator and this is not even the first time that I am expressing an interest in this seat of presidency. In 2010, three years after I had registered this party, founded it, Agana Party, which means Covenant Party. I expressed a desire to create that in 2013 I will be going in for presidency. But in between our two and a half years and here in Nairobi where I had ran for MP a by election was announced. And I said to myself look, there are two and a half years you can serve the people in other ways, I went for the by election which did not turn out well. But by the time I was finishing that and we go to train that then I say, let me try at a lower level. I don't believe in giving up. I am like Abraham Rickon who had tried this thing for 13 years and for 13 years he got the presence of the U.S. Being used, Kenya is looking for people who have determined who have got to solve, who are not giving up. I am in this race because like you my listeners, I'm angry, I'm concerned. I mean to all that we need to check your mic so maybe you can be able to share that. Yes, I am in this race. Like you young people, like you youth is because I am a concerned Kenyan. I'm an angry, positively angry Kenyan because 59 years after independence we keep going round about certain mountains and when I look at my competitors I am seeing us going back there. We've been moving out the same issues over and over again. And what are the issues? Unemployment for the youth. What are the issues? Lack of skills. Education is there but you know the unemployment is not there. What are the issues? A lot of talk and no action. So you believe that you're going to bring a change? I will bring those changes. I'll bring those changes. What are the issues? Corruption, you know? And I'll be giving you figures. 610 trillion Kenyan money. Illigari, not ligari. Stashed abroad because you can have a foreign account. But 610 trillion stashed abroad. What are the issues? 2 billion which should be going to help you the youth to effect the things that are being said. Which turns to 60 billion per month. 720 billion. All you need is to calculate it and in a few years less than 2 or so you would have paid 8.2 trillion. So I am here to make a change and that's why our slogan with my running mate is cease indio tutra badilisha. We want to tutra badilisha. Badilisha is our slogan. Cece tunakujaku badilisha. We zangu hawawezi. We zangu hawawezi. We zetu hawawezi. Wali amboutu na gombada na. And you know at the end of the day every body, every one of the presidential aspirants that you've got has something that they're saying, you know what? We are the ones who are going to fulfill it. We are the ones who are going to do it. Now let me come specifically to the youth. What plans do you have for the youth? And then I'll come to you Ruth. Right, I'll just give you a sneak preview because very soon before by the time we are turning to the end of the month we're giving you our arm manifesto and it has major issues about the youth. You have a launch of the manifesto then? Yes, we'll be giving a date. Just my committee today and tomorrow is finalizing on a couple of things and even the dates. But I know there are some competitors. One will be doing it on that date. The other one on 22nd is roundabout there. But we are concerned about the whole issue of unemployment. If I can go to their challenges I know because we are concerned about the challenges I know there are these regulations and things that were put in place how they should be getting government tenders. The Yagipo, if I got the economy right but we know it's only 30% it is not efficient. They are not getting money out of it. I mentioned the whole issue of skills. I also wish to refer to because youth asking give us skills then there is a whole issue of is a credit and access to it. He is a peza and he is a competitor. I want to talk about issues not them. They know where it is touched by and apparently some of them are the ones who have touched that money. And now they are moving around saying youth will give you 50 billion. Where will they get that money from? How do you know they have touched? You have evidence? It is from scandals that have happened during their times. You don't need to be a rocket scientist. You don't need. It has come from Kenya. It hasn't come, allow me to say from the moon or from Somalia. It has come from Kenya. It has come from our revenue, our taxes. The person who is there is either directly or collaterally involved. And I can say that because some of them have been mentioned in scandals and let me even just say this. You have heard like there are two of them who keep accusing themselves saying where were you, you are involved with people close to you in KEMSA. The other one saying you and your friend were involved in YMCA but I have mentioned about four things. By running metanae Ruth we want to bring the youth into the center of this by issuing where for instance the 30% of tendering we would want to get it to even as close as 50 if not over. We want to see youth in nominated in positions and my party has proposed a lot of names for nomination into parliament, senate and counter assemblies. We want to see youth in cabinet and we've been discussing this thing and youth will be surprised our cabinet don't be surprised if close to I'm using that because we are tying the final things close to that percent if not even more because they are also the women and they are people with disabilities will be going to the youth. Let me finish this my brother of the budget. Of the appointments. Let me finish this because it's very important. 9 August is very key for the youth because Kenya 59 years after independence must break through this glass hearing and it's a youth who can do it. Ruth and I we are saying unless we change we are rooting for change unless to badilisha our wazetu the proposals they are giving cannot move this nation to the next level. Let me come to you Ruth still your plans on the youth and specifically I want to ask you on the issue of unemployment you downplay the issue of the money being promised and of course I'll give you a right to respond to that how that one works but how are you going to solve the issue of unemployment if elected into office? Our government this government for us we are planning to revive some of the industries that have gone down industries that have employed the youth industries that have boosted the youth to even self-employment I'm from Iceland I'm from Iceland so I believe that I'll use an example of what out why should someone be at out for 20 years so I believe this government is going to enable the youth to access funds to buy themselves or to build up to build themselves business opportunities so this tout who has been in and jumping out of the door for 20 years should be able to access funds to buy themselves and employ someone else to jump or to stand at the door so for us it is part of part of reaching out and when we lift up the industries that have died the youth is going to be called back the youth is going to be called back there's going to be there's going to be vacancies for them to pick up yes you're targeting the specific industries but how feasible is that that one can take years is it achievable within a short period of time have you looked at the feasibility of that it is workable how long can it take to achieve that that one i would not give specifications of years but it is achievable because remember in this gap of youth they increase per month exactly because we are looking at many youths coming out of of school coming out of university and you are talking about boosting the specific industries now how is it achievable when you have the different industries that still have issues amongst themselves if i could come in if i could come in let me answer it from a different perspective in Amman Festa we have five pillars we are saying in this nation umoja upia part of our driving force we want to to be the government and that we bring corruption to an end or reduce it to near zero if not below zero percentage and i will tell you why this is important our money is usually lost our revenue the money that should be reviving the industries she is talking about the money that i should be going for is a credit is a two billion and that was just in government and all you need is we are not doing the multiplication to multiply to see how much this is is a money that i say is ilegare is a money that is wastage in bureaucracy i brought in the whole issue of bureaucracy or in governmental operations in misadministration we are saying money is here with us capital is here with us to pay the loan to revive the industries to provide for easy credit but we have lack resource you also notice and i keep going back to most of us and why Ruth and i are different is the fact that they are not talking specifics on corruption we will even revisit the scandals that have gone on because for instance just to give you an example i mentioned about two we hear them praying around they are throwing whatever like a tennis ball because they know they can't fight it because they are mired but the whole objective just in case you get me right is to recover our money which i should have gone into the youth into development it is there in records my brother 610 kenyan money is ilegare stashed abroad why are we talking why don't we start from what we can see what we have even if half of that found its way back here my brother the industries the easy credit the skills will be there and this is would be for the youth and through that you believe it will be able to create employment my brother the solutions are with us the solutions are with us its been corruption its been wastage its been bureaucracy its been mara administration and misadministration its been lack of motivation its been ignoring the youths not giving them skills even when we put policies we don't implement them they are a lot of right now if ruta nae student says ninyu vijanantra patea 100 billion we don't even know how much we have we have not even sat with the people in treasure we don't have access in fact all we know and because its in the public domain even internationally is that we have 82 trillion and i think the last few days is gone to about 10 that's all we know but we know this is a world country with potential and we are saying we will be the people who come and do that let me quote you this is just a few days ago and i quote Ruth like myself is concerned about the runaway corruption in Kenya the poverty 59 years after independence the high cost of living the bad leadership the recycling of leadership that comes year in year out and the never ending impunity that's right my brother those are your words and your father said and this is something that our competitors will not be able to do because they have been the godfathers of this impunity and corruption specifically you said that you are going to handle corruption in a very specific manner how specific is it we shall not be able to deal with corruption unless we get to the root of it we will get to the root of it our competitors cannot be because either directly or indirectly or by extension they are participated in it so that you will find like last night i recent one of the broadcasters and the discussion there were two of them there were women in one of the broadcasts it could have been KBC who started looking at it and said you aside want you X Y Z I don't have the research I don't have NIS research but it is there it is known in terms of names so like every illegal tree or plant you don't want where you go to the roots will go to the roots one of the things we will do is we go for the main guys who been involved in this matters they are there they exist a presence say to us every year every day 2 billion is lost it is known and we will get those facts 1. to effect that 2. the law is there the sentences are there our courts are trying to do a good job they have changed they are not unlike before the ringera there was a judge called ringera who sent home half the judges they have continued gradually getting tough but they are still black sheep we will get the law implemented 3. RU then I have said kama niyeye ama mimi yambani now fissadi that we have entered almost like an agreement we shall call each other out we shall ask for respective impeachments and not only that we shall want the deep people whoever they will be at that time like it happened in Singapore to have us face the law for Singapore to fight corruption after independence president you sent his cronies who are his right hand men to prison they were sucked and that's how the message came across and you can be able to do that we want to do that we are not wired with the doubt of the past you can see even our campaign we are running our own race because when I look at what they are doing it's our taxes it's money from those candles it's money from that impunity let me come to you Ruth still on matters concerning corruption we've seen these cases and many Kenyans are saying you know what we are not seeing anything coming out of these things how different will your government be if elected into office when handling corruption ok for me I'll just emphasize what his excellency has mentioned that we have declared we have shown to each other that you are corrupt you put in I'm corrupt I'm put in so for us we are coming in as a new broom so for that reason we are ready to take up those who have been involved in corruption because they have made us to be in the state we are right now so for the youth and for the Kenyans the mistake we make to put back the same corrupt people it is gonna cost us for the next 5 years or a decade they say politics is that again yes are you going to clean it up we are not dirty we were allowed to reach this far by the EACC because we are clean we have no record of corruption and there's no way there's no way we can agree with those that have messed up the country so for us we are in here to persecute anybody who has made me not even someone else me have a hard time and the rest of the youth women and the country are large to have a strainiest economy and of course there must be lessons that we can pick up from previous regimes in terms of fighting corruption what are some of those things that you feel are loopholes that previous governments have not managed to seal and you feel like you're going to come in and close or bridge that gap there has been a lack of resolve people have called it Kenyans and you the media KBCU being forefront of talking about lack of goodwill resolve there has been a goodwill from who from even the top at the top I'm talking the executive and you know the executive is big and then there has been the whole issue of re-appointing and recycling people who have been maimed in scandals and it's been in the public domain somebody is named in KEMSA then they are appointed into this is the one that gives you frequencies they are appointed there but I know they were dropped thereafter there has been almost there has been a measure this is the way we feel my running mate and I have excellency that the government and within the cabinet and the executive when they know for instance when she knows I'm involved in corruption instead of calling out an initially probably in private and later if I'm not doing anything instead of calling out in public I look the other side I feel more could have been done in the current regime in the regime before this for the last 30 years it could have been done but you know what my brother I feel either directly or indirectly or in some way remotely or partially in their campaigns some of this money is what they have used in the past 30 years I'm not just talking about now and that's why it's so difficult but you know you can repent there was even a guy in the bible known as Razzaras he was known as Sakeas Nalimungu ila yota ni meimba ni tuwantarudisha maraini mimi na goja wa tuwambi eivyo nasisi tuta wa semeha my brother this is for all we are saying in Kenya I can promise you had billion the elephant in the room in Kenya Kenyans work hard there is a lot of money look at all these cars look at the things in Kenya it is the fact that our money goes through the whole of corruption so we get the money we put in a pocket in a tokeupu that is our problem and nobody is emphasizing in regards to this particular aspect we have those who are still being investigated in terms of matters concerning corruption your thoughts in regards to that just before we move on to something else should they be allowed to compete should they be allowed to vie for their different political seats and what is your take as an aspirant to become for the deputy president's position here in honesty I think if you are corrupt you should sit aside as long as you are being investigated if you are being investigated you are still innocent till proven guilty so you can't say they are corrupt till proven guilty so if you are being investigated where they smoke there is fire so I believe if you are being investigated there is something that has been seen so for me sit aside don't vie don't vie sit aside be the innocent one then after we finish they can also come and look for us when we are in the government and they come and prove themselves we are clean so we can give them something we can sit down and discuss on those levels and clear them but the fact that that same person being investigated is still allowed to run we are just recycling what we are doing Kenya we are just recycling this same person we are strengthening the person to come back and even improve what they did so that they do not get caught alright let me come to you Maori yes we agree bad leadership has been one aspect you have been talking a lot about bad leadership how do you intend to correct that because as some say everything begins and ends with the leadership you know I agree with you the best thing of a leader that a leadership can be exercised is the way you lead you lead by example the life you live are you corrupt are you being named as associated with things that are affecting Kenyans the other thing leadership comes with humility that's what we call it servant leadership the fourth the third leadership comes with effective communication first of all listening any communication you know my brother right now we are dealing with high cost of living right now we are living with poverty right now we are living with employment but you know I am saying we had opportunity to address this we had opportunity to address this but you ask me what are you we seeing is the largest of those we are competing with we will lead by example indeed if it were not for matters maybe international accepted standards that you have to have security madam Ruth and I would like to be ordinary walk out here to na kutana nani, to na salmiya mahali nilikua na kunya kwa kiosk na skiza wanainchi na ka na vidyana wala wengine ya na wazewa rikayangu the other one is listen to Kenyans then there is a final one democracy is government for the people and by the people our government has not been by the people we have not involved Kenyans by listening by empowering them part of what we will be coming out in our manifesto there are a couple of things that have been discussed in the past but they were mixed up with other things we intend to see that a lot of money is devolved because we want we want to empower economic blueprint empower the people there is the other one they are calling for us we are trying to empower the people more money to counties more money to the ground let the development start there even in tendering even in the tendering even in tendering wata wata wakaia po wa seme kama atampandugu ram watampada da Ruth decision pale to na takapeka kutoka ukuju apa chiniku wa nainchi let's talk about the aspect of the economy the pillar of by the people by the people let's talk about the aspect of the economy how do you intend to improve the economy because we have so many different economic models being proposed by different aspirants here to na seme is empower the people and how do you do to na seme kama and we support it and what we are saying there has been discussions we want to put a lot of money down there and not only put it there and decisions are being made here or here we want within there to be groups of people who will be making decisions we want to restore back the cooperative movements the circle movement because those are important you see in advanced countries in Europe there is a problem in Kenya it is that the economy is determined from down there yes there will be the producers here but also down there they are producers you know we still have another presidential aspirant who has a similar approach to yours and there is a particular name that they are refiring that to well you know this is not his or their policy and even the others are not saying anything different the only thing is that none of them but now they are going to steal mine from today we don't know what the answer is we want at that point we want to make it 15% we would if it was possible to get it to 50% your national cake it would end up in grass root what we are saying 50% 50% I am not being completely firm because there is a financial committee and the projection which is looking at it vijana wako kwa grass root kinama wako kule waze wapate pesa wapate waze kupata mukopo agriculture waze kwa empower people let the government be by the people let me come to you Ruth and of course I want to talk about the people and particularly a particular set of people women someone who I know has really talked a lot about the power of women and how women can bring a change how different do you see yourself now that you are vying for this particular seed in terms of bringing a change to the women the Kenyan women to believe in themselves and of course to change their lives now that you want to be at the top what I am coming to represent here for me the advantage that I have is I am sitting in for the women and the youth the two sets the set so for that woman I am coming to represent the two thirds gender I am sitting in as a deputy and a lady because I will be able to monitor the 30% implementation of the women in government in the women in the executive so I will be able not only not only to have it reported I will be able to push for the agenda of the women with the president first hand level so the women will be able to have a voice we also have a set of women who are widowed ladies just because you have lost a husband why why should I lose my shamba just because my husband has rested unfortunately and the peace of land that we were happily having all of a sudden is grabbed back because by the brothers by the family I am coming to fight for that then how are we going to fight for that for these women in I am coming to bring up a voice we will come up with a law a law that says once this is passed once a family or you have a document it cannot be revoked back laws that can be able to protect women a law that will protect the women from the very beginning and cannot be revoked because it beats logic that when he is alive the land is ours when he is rested it is not ours and I am chased away together with the kids so I am coming to protect that too yes I love that you thought in regards to that as a man who is also supporting women now that you have a deputy presidential aspirant who is supporting that like the youth women are also the backbone of this nation empowering the women will what itabadilisha kabisa because for us we are talking about total change and total change means even the leaders don't recycle right now if you are not careful you will be recycling and will go back to where we were because the first thing they will start recovering what they have spent the woman is very important and that's why I chose and it was not something that was done easily there was a lot of consideration a woman she will a woman brings just like Ruth will bring a woman touch to my presidency even in government will bring a woman touch our proposal is I've heard some of our competitors say they will choose 50% in the cabinet Ruth and I have been discussing with our team and we are looking at the possibility not just of 50 but you hear as finally what will be in our manifesto we would even want if they can be more if they can be more you heard me if they can be more more than 50% women are also great in production women work for 4 hours men work 8 and so on and then they go home they put their feet on the sofa when they go to the TV in Pila after the season in Pila so we are key on that it will be important to strengthen the law yes after death of loved ones, spouses partners you know a lot of suffering the girl child is still a challenge but we would want to be the government that will make a difference now there is something that is still very important that I have seen presidential aspirants address and let me quote you Moura you said this and I quote based on the grueling presence that I went through during clearance I can tell they are wrapped to the task about the electoral transmission of the results I hope the commission will ensure that the technology is reliable end of quote we are talking about the IEBC I would like you to address the issue because many are talking about whether it will be able to give a clear credible free and fair election I understand and I share thank you Ram for that question I understand and I share the concern of Kenyans it is important and I am addressing the IBC here that you be seen to be cleaner to be pure to be whiter than Caesar's wife you've heard the saying because elections are a covenant and that's why a party is known as Agano party between the elected and us when I put my vote or when you put your vote for Ruth and I which we are asking you to do that I think we are getting into an agreement a covenant that when you get there you will fight for our rights there was talk the area I found at bombers the growing was tough and you can see the people from 58 we are thankful and we are humbled by the grace of God and Kenyans that we were among the four so for them to reject the other number you can be sure it was not an easy task we had to go back but it's only that we were prepared we had quick replacement of three counties just a couple of things and everybody even so being caught so big boys or horses we know they had challenges this issue about some votes cannot have been transferred it's a matter they need to continue coming out clean on but let me tell you I looked at those men and women I had particularly those we interacted with because the commissioners were up there when they were checking a document they said for the last 2-3 days we haven't slept it's not a walk in the park I think we should wish them good will I have had them say they don't want to see a repeat of the 2017 Dibbako of the 2007 and thanks for the Kenyans and that would be when I get to my last word I know we will exercise peace I for me I would like to empower them I would like to wish them good wale tu naomba tu aomba wale tu naisa ku asaidea tu asaidea and because Chibukati has promised they will sort out whatever the issue they will be transparent let's not bring them down na uchagusu mengia na uchagusu nihakia tu kwa kikatiba what would then alternative we want let me come to you address that because many international communities observers to come and of course also be part of these general elections do you believe in its credibility and your voice to the part of IBC being told you know what we question whether you will be able to deliver these elections I would add to say that the process the IBC process that we went through was quite intense very intense and that is why that gives us more reason to feel like we are ready for an election for a free credible and fair election you know when we plant a seed of doubt we will harvest that so from our end what we saw and being on this seed we believe we will have a free election now I'm still on your route because now this aspect of whether an election is free has caused a lot of problems in the past I would like you to talk concerning chaos riots and you know the youths have been the people who have been at the forefront when it comes to this we don't want a repeat of two or seven we don't want that what should we do and how can we make this election different I wish us to go in this with a sober mind let us be optimistic that there is always a winner and a loser so youth we are always the target of throwing the stones we are the targets of destruction so we can only see this manifestos taking place you're not going to destroy someone's shop and expect employment so we need to sit up make sober decisions stand up and accept the fact that there is one who will get in and there is one who needs to accept defeat so peace is essential for us because we need to live our lives from ninth thereafter we need to go to school we need to go to work so please let us all work together we don't need to throw anything at anyone we don't need to hold names against each other we are Kenyans let us be peaceful if you see a mother a crime because they lost their child but they were just out in the streets there it is painful it is very painful and some of them are even mistaken and some of them whether involved in the scene or not so that is why my cry is please the youth or the elderly who are being used to bring destruction stop accepting 200 shillings to throw stones to damage any property that belongs to a fellow Kenyan or any other person that is demonstrating their legal right to vote for the person that they choose let me come to you Maure as you give your voice in regards to that because many Kenyans even started being skeptical remember the bi-elections that we have been having in different regions we were seeing chaos coming up and we were saying if this is just a bi-election what about the general election let me call upon the youth of Kenya and all Kenyans in general I know you youth who you also reached to your parents and your colleagues who might probably be at work number one election is very important election just like politics has to do with life it has to be with your livelihood we don't have to fight we normally fight we have peacefulness number one because we exercise our right to vote wrong way I mean I can tell you if you opt to change this time and bring new faces I can tell you everybody even our competitors believe it's time for change let's keep the peace life will continue why is it that when we are growing up in school, in primaries we don't fight you don't even know me by my tribe I don't know my sister by her tribe I don't know my brother by his tribe we know each other as Kenyans we are a great nation I have written a book Hope for Kenya there is hope and this is the time for hope all you need to do wachene safari in the past nobody will oppose if you elect Ruth and I I'm telling you I see what you did there was awkwardly let's head over to our facebook page and of course on our facebook page we posted our question there and of course mgepena kujua ni ni from our presidential aspirants David Wahega Ruth Mutua each vime for the presidential post and the deputy presidential post respectively let's take a look at what people are saying this is a seller select term last year kujua isn't this going to be a waste of money because some believe that there are people who deserve it better of course many are saying whether we really vote for them kujua kujua kujua kujua kujua kujua kujua ビ期待ינו so much kujua kujua kujua kujua kujua da'si, ah, see, ano nga project nga! Eddie Rustley, na zama, vidyana hatuna job atu seedie... ata seedie aji hapo. Manu orijyo na zama, touched in na zama, Ryan na zama, hantaka kujiya the manifestos, and Kevo, na zama, they want to know, laifi ya kii toku wa VP. Rare genotaipan asama, first let me say thank you so much to Ruth Mutua and Mwaure Wahega for understanding that women are the agenda that women are business to discuss for a long time. Nobody talks about women, women are already left out and we run to casual and usual promises that that of electricity job opportunities and all that finally I want to ask the aspirant what they have for the youth. Let me just give you time to respond to those issues. Rare genotaipan asama. Rare genotaipan asama. Rare genotaipan asama. Rare genotaipan asama. I mean, na taka kwangia mambo if we are going to succeed. Where is the same, where is the same I game ikona specific people at the big boys on it. Nita rudia chenye nili seima. One asama two horse race. At the two horse race. Two horse race yoni resiao. Sisi we are not in competition we have said this is our race. Sisi tunafanya what we believe is going to bring mabadiliko katika in Shia Kenya. So we are in this because tumechoka. So ata wumu anarika anafa kuchoka. Aki ingiza remember, oki ingiza the same old people is Shida as badiliki. Aw naita two horse race. Wame kuwa on de wa me lete zima Shida zote. On de wa me and zilisha 50 I can almost say 59 years ago because it has its history. It has accrued over a time. It has accrued over a time. Kwego uki taka, uki taka the two horse race wakumdi o the only people there. This will only advance. Our issues the economy will only advance. Sasa nilazi ma mkujemu lete the new face mabadiliko. Try the new broom. Sisi niki fagiyom piya when you take an old broom and sweep that it does not sweep clean. We are not wasting resources because we have had a lot of people cry out because they want change. Change cannot be the old. So like atuna ribu pesa. Akuna kua ribu pesa we are ready for the people who are ready to believe in us. More in it for that. Let me give you time to respond to those comments on social media. Let me give you time to respond to those comments on social media. We feel you. We feel you. We feel the challenges of Kenya. We tunase ma safarii ya 9th August. Nilazi ma 20 katikati kwa kukingine chamaisha. Ii injilazi ma ifike kule kwa Singapore. It must get to South Korea, Malaysia. Wakatwa independence na wengiwe tuha tukua mezaliwa. Umezike ikizimekana. Kenya was lending money to them. We are saying with Ruth Sisi hatuja kwa wukutu kejuhusisha with the things that have brought us a debt of going now to 10 trillion. Number two, Sisi hatuja kwa mention kwa yalemambu tuhi sema kashfa nakadarika. Sisi tunase ma, the only permanent thing you can have is change. It's the only thing. Tuna lete. Nakadmingine hata ile kotu mefa shati wakadmingine na nesimaka sasa in mefa sana. Nituha ibadirisha kwa sabunata kakua nekana umpia. And you are addressed the way you are addressed. Tuna wambeni. Tuna kujakumuleta ma badiriku wambai na itajika. Tuya gura amu. Uko sava. Tuna skia uchungu. I want us to bring this conversation close. Na hata drimu ya kona yangunivali. Uzi seme tu na potesa wakati, lakini tu na ileva wiliu na sema. Uta joana na helkofta, lakini yoka helkofta imetokawa api. Let's wrap it up. Ruth, let me give you a final word. And then I'll come back to you Maure. Final word as we bring this conversation to a close. What would be the final thing that you say? That is your camera as we wrap it up. For me, peaceful election is all we ask for. Yes, choose Agano. Choose Agano. The president is David Maure. And the deputy myself, Ruth Mushero Motua. Please let us have a peaceful election. I do not need to break anything so that I look a bit popular or a bit superior. And wachatwe ke ma badiriku. Our slogan remains badilisha. Alright, thank you so much. Namimi Dugu Zambu and my brothers and sisters say peace, peace, peace during elections. Vijana, badilisha tutakua na amani, tutakua na hope. There is hope for you. Peace. Chukua kulayako ikchonge. Sema sasa uli kuata unashindo nina ni tpige akura. Lakini sema mambiye mwingine. Nimewa ona. Ni wale amba wale na nisebe kanani punda. Kumbiaata abandio faras kuchinda wale wengine. Peace, amani, badilisha, badilisha, badilisha. Tutapata iyo yote. Tukupamoja. Kamumge kuapatunge wa shikaivi. God bless you. Asana sana. That is, of course, David Mawrewaega and Ruth Mutua. Agano party presidential candidates. Of course, thank you so much for coming. I believe our youth needed to know about all these things. And of course, thank you so much for finding time to join me. Asana sana. And I wish you guys the best. Thank you. Alright. And of course, that business to the end of this morning conversation. In the morning. My name is Ramaguko. It has been a pleasure being with you today. Keep it wide to five or four more of our programming. That is to the end of this particular show. But again, see you again tomorrow. Keep talking to us. Keep engaging. This conversation does not end. Remember, we still have more candidates that we've not interviewed. Looking forward to having more of this. Of course, I am. Have a good day. May God bless you. May God bless the work of your hands.