 Big show, happy Monday. I'm gonna try not to be aegist on today's program, but it's not gonna be easy. It's not looking great for a couple of goats. Speaking of animals, the hawk half landed. That's right, Andrew Hawkins and I are going to go crazy recapping the fun of week seven. Let's hit it. My Chicago bear is probably gonna get shellacked by the Patriots' defense, of course, but let's talk about last night because do not sleep on this dolphin's team. We liked them in the beginning, wrote them off when Tua got hurt, but he made his return tongue by Loa back in action last night, getting the dolphins to win Miami moob stuff four and three. Happened to be my two favorite numbers, and by the way, they are four and O when Tua starts and finishes the game. Yes, there were some lulls in there, especially in the second half, but he was sharp enough to get it done early, right? He got them to a huge league, 13 zip out the gates in the dolphins defense. They gotta go win. They're like a locomotive down there in Miami. I liked it. They also looked beautiful on Sunday night football. I was like, I want to be in Miami enjoying that. They intercepted it. You know, who didn't want to be there? Kenny Pickett. Who doesn't? Kenny Pickett looked great at times. He really did, but he likes to take risks and turn them all over. Three interceptions, and yeah, I think a bunch of you people watching this show jumped off the dolphins bandwagon after Tua's injury. But with that win, Miami already back on the right side of the playoff picture, and I don't think they're going anywhere as long as number one stays healthy. So that's my big takeaway from last night. Andrew Hawkins is here in studio. Haven't seen him yet. I'm told he's here. I gotta tell you guys, I can't hear anything in my ear. Oh, I'm not hearing program. Like if there's music or anything, I don't hear anything. I didn't hear our show open. I didn't hear the animation. Just letting you guys know. In case anybody needs to talk to me. If stuff goes down, I don't hear I have anybody. All right, but maybe it's because I'm old and I can't hear. But I'm just about as old as these two old Gs that, listen, it's not looking good. Oh Gs, oh boy. Because we are almost at the halfway point of the season. There's a lot left to go. And when it comes to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, I'm for one, finding it very difficult to RELAX. Very difficult to relax. After a brutal 21 to three loss at the hands of the Panthers. The Panthers with a fire sale got rid of everybody. All right, the Bucks have fallen, my friends, to three and four. Brady has a losing record through seven. Read it and weep. It's the first time it's been the case in 20 years. The last time it happened, it was 2002. Did they make a playoffs that year? Nope, they didn't. Rodgers, yeah. Rodgers now, also three and four, after falling 23 to 21 at Washington. I said, don't, do you lose to the Commanders? Don't do it. This of course, despite the help of a pick six from Miss D, if they didn't have that pick six, it would have been over. I would have been in a wrap. I would have gone and taken my hike and tried to avoid the rattlesnakes in California way earlier in this game. But this is again, the first time in Aaron Rodgers' entire career that he's had a losing record at this point of the season. Now I've said this before, but the more, and I'm not smiling about it, it's just, I don't want this to end this way for either of them, but the more I see both of those offenses struggle, the more I am convinced and it makes me mad and it ferrets me that no one is listening to me. These two legends need to start taking things off of their plates. I cannot sit here any longer and tell the Packers to run the ball. I cannot tell Tom Brady enough. Tom Brady who, his entire career is built around defense and running and distributing the ball. The Bucs offense is absurdly unbalanced. You just thought 50 drop-backs for Brady to just 14 carries for the Bucs running backs or less five games. Brady's averaging 48.4 drop-backs per game. And the record says one in four. That's it. The Bucs, listen, they got the talent. It's not quite working with those guys back yet, but they have the talent to get the passing game going. But they cannot be this one dimensional. I don't know why it's happening. And for Rodgers, I mean, God damn, I can't say anymore. I just can't. And I don't know if it's the floor. I think it's Rodgers. Call them the shots there. James Jones comes on our show regularly. Our fan, hold on a second, our fan dual family. And I say to him, does he have it in him to run the ball, to not take shots? And then these series happen where they should be running and he's throwing and all of that. It's obvious that Rodgers is taking it all on his shoulders to fix it and make it happen. I've said for weeks they need to run the football. I don't even know why I'm sitting up here anymore. Like I quit at this point. I don't even know if I can talk about the Packers anymore. 12, 12 carries. I said here Friday, simplifying the offense means Aaron Jones. They have a tandem, A.J. dealing. 12 carries. And they did get Aaron Jones the ball in the passing game. Couple of beautiful grabs out there. 35 passes for Aaron Rodgers. And to who? I don't even know what we're doing here. I feel like both of these guys are trying to shoulder the load themselves. So the question I was musing on this morning is who's making the decisions? I want to blame LaFleur and I want to blame the coaching staff down there in Tampa Bay. Everybody involved. But we all know that it is Aaron Rodgers and it is Tom Brady that have control over these offenses and at the line of scrimmage. And it's them. And you guys both know better and I love you both. When you've been your most successful, it has not been because you are throwing 50 times a game. It's when you are taking what the defense is giving you and trusting the guys that are around you. I can never give up on either of these quarterbacks, but I see I'm real panic button, like trigger happy. Like let's go here. It kind of reminds me of, Rodgers is like a year older than me. So it's not like an ageist thing. But at a certain point, these coaching staffs might have to trick these quarterbacks into not doing so much. And like, listen, my dad loves to shovel the driveway when it's snowing in Chicago and he loves it. And I, you know, but he's in his seventies. And it's, you know, I have to say, hey dad, why don't you help me with this paperwork? I don't understand my car insurance or health insurance. Can you look at this? And I sneak out and I shovel the driveway or I convince him somehow because otherwise, my dad's always going to want to shovel the driveway. At 85 he'll be out there shoveling. You have to sort of find a way to finesse that situation into doing what's best for the team. And that of course is run the ball and stop shouldering everything. I basically just called Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, 80 year old man, which is not what I'm saying. I'm saying the coaching staff is just as important and just as responsible for what's been going on. All right, let's talk about, oh, something happy. How awesome is this whole Daniel Jones thing? Because there's been this narrative that he's not great and there's a narrative that he's a good leader and he's tough and there's this narrative that he's just kind of along for the ride. And what's going on in the hoopla in New York and after then beating the Jags 23 to 17, the Giants are six and one. And to put that into perspective guys, they have won six games in an entire season, just once since the last time they made the playoffs back in 2016. That is insane. It has been an incredible early season run. We are all here for it, but there has been this feeling that, oh, Daniel Jones is fine. It's all Saquon, that it's, you know, it's all Brian Dable. Daniel Jones is just there. It's the defense. And I will say that's not completely unfair and I won't say that, but after yesterday that narrative is dead. More rushing yards than Saquon Barkley. He put the ball in the air 30 plus times, gorgeous touchdown to Slate and he converted some key third downs, ran for 107 as he saw on the score, averaging just under 10 yards per carry. There's still a lot of season left and a lot to be determined as to whether or not the Giants offer him an extension, whether or not he's the future. But what a step in the right direction. He had to do things, he did them and he did them well. So we continue to celebrate the Giants into week eight, which we love. Another big takeaway of mine and I need to hear yours because there's so much that you want here. So up in Adam's show is our Twitter handle, get it going, what needs more real estate in our 60 minute program here? Andrew Hawkins is backstage somewhere, probably causing a ruckus and I'm ready to come out here and hang out and party with me to wrap up the rest of week seven to get you separate tonight's action as well. But another big takeaway, speaking of wide receivers and Hawkins is that I'm ready to say that Chiefs officially don't miss Tyreek. I was kind of back and forth on this all year, but I'm ready to admit the Chiefs don't miss Tyreek Hill. The Holmes lit up the scariest defense in the land in my opinion, the Niners. 423, three scores, he fueled this 44-23 blowout win but it was even more impressive than that. It really was. He had seven completions of 20 plus yards to four different receivers. The big plays people, they are happening without Tyreek Hill, MBS and JuJu. Each over 100 receiving yards in this one. That is the first time at Holmes has gotten 100 plus yards out of two ride receivers in the same game. The first time ever, McColl-Hartman was the Sofetch of the NFL. We're all trying to make, it's like the Kevin White effect. They're trying to make McColl-Hartman happen. And he had himself a day. So cheers to him this morning. He became the first wide receiver in the Super Bowl era with two rushing touchdowns and a receiving touchdown in the second game. This offense looked just as explosive as ever and you see the chemistry building between the Holmes and these weapons with each passing week. So I'm just gonna say this, and Bill's fans think I hate him even though I love him. Bill's fans, Brian, I'm not saying, I'm saying simply, well first watch out for those bangles, because they are comfy and looking good. But I will also say, Bill's fans just don't get too comfortable during this bye week. I'll say that, don't get too comfortable. You know, as you had it, you weren't playing. Now you've got the, you think you've got the Packers, the lowly Packers next Sunday night? I don't know. We'll get to that, Aaron Rodgers and versus Josh Allen for Week 8. But later in the show, we'll of course hit the Cheeps and the 49ers with our Bay Area friend, Stas. Guys, Stas is coming on the show. After that loss, this is gonna be a joyous occasion on Up and Atom Show. Don't you guys like my jacket? Sunday night football reaction, big takeaways from Week 7. Andrew Hawkins in a second. K dropping the G, I apologize for that. Hopefully my nieces and nephews weren't watching about talking about a Aaron. I think she's a little far, just run the ball. What is so difficult? I mean, you probably don't want that. We got a good one here. Wide receiver with the Browns former wide receiver and my beloved bangles of course. You are the co-founder of something that I need to know more about in the sports tech company called Status Pro. Yes. Tell me about that. Status Pro is a sports technology company that majors in virtual reality, augmented reality. We do gaming, we do training products. So our training product, we work with like six NFL teams. Our gaming product just came out, first ever NFL VR game, number one sports VR game. What? On the Oculus, absolutely. Number one game for a month running. So shout out to NFL Pro era. Make sure you go check that out. Go get it. That's something I can ask for for Christmas. Yes. The Oculus? Yes, on the Oculus. I'm into that, really. If you can play quarterback in the NFL. So all these things you're correcting, Aaron, Roger's on, Tom Brady. Like I could just run the ball. I want to see you do it. I could run the ball. You can just hand the ball off. That's what you want to do. You can just run the football. Do you think I'm crazy that they were like, why is he throwing the ball 32 times or running the ball 12? You have Aaron Jones in Egypt. What are we doing? Because that's what they get paid for. You don't pay your quarterback that much money to have somebody else do the work. You know, like I wouldn't come in here and then you wouldn't just say, hey, Hawk, welcome, take over the show. No, they pay you the big bucks here. To be honest, I thought about it. So you carry the load, okay? No, that's why you're here to go over some of this. You're also currently starring in Prime Video's new docu-series, Life After, and that follows the lives of, I think, 12 retired NFL players, and you are one of them. And that's available. We'll get details on that. Yes, let's do it, let's dive in. It's available right now, as Marissa says. All right, I want to talk to you about the bangles. Let's do it. I covered some of the things that stuck out to me, but I think they're back. I think they're back in a big way. And the AFC Norah, dumb to let them hang around and develop rhythm. And everyone's saying, it's against Atlanta. They just look better and better every week. 500 yards, he hung on this Falcons defense. What did you make about them? And this is, by the way, after back-to-back, 30-point game. So is it fair to say they're that team? I don't think they were gone to be back. Like this is who Joe Burrow has been throughout games, throughout seasons, his college career. He's a slow starter. It is what it is. You can call it slow starting. You can call it him gathering the information to be as best as he can towards the end. He's great in games that way. The bangles typically start slowing games. They started slow last season. So this is just them getting their new rhythm for this season. And to your point, he's Joey B. We've seen him at every level. I would be more surprised if the way they were playing early, when they were kind of at a sink as they were figuring out. If that sustained, that would be a surprise for me. What they're doing now is not a surprise at all. Does it feel like a special team, though? Because there was a certain point. In the off-season, this is a team that went to the Super Bowl and nobody picked them even to win the division. And the Ravens are a real thing. I don't know. I'm almost ready to say they're going back to the Super Bowl. I might say that. I don't think you would be crazy. Raven would be the only. They are the returning best AFC team in the NFL. What did they do in the off-season? They corrected their offensive line, right? And it's going to take a little bit of time to get that rhythm. But what you're doing now, what you're seeing is them doing just that. The receiving core, Joey B, the running game, those things are still intact and they're still one of the best in the league. And let's not forget, we don't like making injury excuses, but he did have a random appendicitis thing. That could not have been, I'm no doctor, but that could not have been fun. No, that's not fine. But it is Joey. We just are used to him just being incredible all the time, so there is no excuses. Last year, actually, that was the most surprising thing for me last season. The fact that he had the year that he did coming off of a knee injury, because typically when you have those major injuries, it takes you like a year to like get back into rhythm and kind of get your bearings about you. We didn't see any fall off. Actually, he got better after blowing out his knee, which is just crazy and unfathomable. Eight touchdowns, no turnovers the last two games. Everybody be on notice, here comes the Bengals. Now we've been talking about the OGs. Brian Barton, my stage manager said, you know, we got to put the goats out to pasture, because it's looking, it's just so fun. Oh, wow. It's not fun to see, but they're struggling. They are. And then, let's talk, Aaron Rodger's post game, he did this, what did he have to say? Right now, it's a **** right, it does. I'm not worried about this squad. In fact, this might be the best thing for us. This week, you know, nobody's gonna give us a chance. Going to Buffalo and some night football. Chance to get exposed. Shoot. This might be the best thing for us. What do you make of that? Yeah, I think we were all thinking that, Aaron. I like his cloak, what that thing was. He's dressing, he's just like a different person every week. He is, he is, he's putting more time into that, I see. Is he? So Aaron Rodgers, for me, I feel like, and I know you were talking about him, Tom Brady, the goats. I won't call them old, but they're definitely, they definitely got to the league before I did, and they're still there well after I've been gone. Very impressive. But I will say for him, I'm a little more worried about him than I am Tom Brady. Because Tom Brady's 45. He's in a world that we've never seen, like father time will win eventually. I'm not saying that's what's happening, but we know for certain this is the end for Tom. Like it's coming to that point. Things are happening, whatever it's like. But we should be comfortable with that. We should be comfortable with that, right? Like you don't get- Do you think it's happening now though? Let's start with, you know, in Tampa, you're looking at eight touchdown passes in seven games this, eight touchdown passes. Seven games this season. I thought that would get fixed when Evans and Govren returned from injuries. It hasn't been the case, but we're talking weapons. I'm less worried about Tom because I think they'll eventually figure it out. It'll be good. They need to add somebody. You ready to go, you know, you're an OG, you want to get out there and run some rounds? No, like what I just told you about father time, I'm not going to be surprised out there when I'm getting embarrassed by people who are a lot younger and faster than me. That's what happened. Aaron though, I mean, there was always these questions. He has these MVP years. These great regular seasons. He only has one Super Bowl. At some point the conversation has to shift to has he under delivered and under performed for what his talent is? Nobody wants to have that conversation. He has the MVPs. Great. Do you really tell me his talent is six Super Bowls less than Tom Brady? I don't believe that's the case. So I think he needs to figure this out because you change coaching staffs, you change players, you change offensive coordinators. At some point you have to grab the bull by the horns and take over. But so what needs to happen here? Because you can't, like we can say Aaron's at his best when he's got a run game. So both of them are. And Rodgers is averaging the fewest yards in a game in his entire career since taking over for Farve. That was back in 2008. So he's averaging less than 230 yards per game. They need to add someone. I think that's what that bites and bite me. When he's sitting there and he's saying, I think this is that he seems very distant, like very even keel. I don't know what that is. It's hot, it's Halloween season. I don't know, I'm absolutely terrified. Fred Guger, the ghost of Aaron Rodgers in the studio, talking smack about him. I think he's saying this is what we lost to the commanders. Yes. I don't know that he's convinced that his level of play needs to be that much better. He used the word tick last week. He said it needs to be a tick better. But some of those receivers, they're not catching the ball, they're banged up. I almost think what he's saying here is front office now has to make a move. Maybe that's what he's saying. I think where he's like, you know what, we've got the bills because they're not wanting to bring in a wide receiver. I don't know why, Goody, why they're so allergic to getting him help, but maybe this is what it took. And now he's like, hat tip to our crap performance against the commanders. Now we have Sunday night football, get me the receiver I need. They had the receiver they needed. I know. So Woody, what are we complaining about? We could have all done better. All the parties in this could have done better to make sure they keep the number one receiver in the league. So I'm sorry. I don't feel bad that now you're saying, oh, it wasn't that easy to replace Devonte Adams. Yeah, that's a great point. And I got nothing to say, Adam show with your thoughts. But with Tom, emotionally, how as a fan am I supposed to deal with what I'm watching? Are you, do you faith will turn it around now? I think, I think he will. I think what you're seeing is again, that the game that Tom has played and the reason why he's so good is because mentally he is at a different level than the rest of the players in the national football league. And I think whether at now he's 45, he's in uncharted territory, even for himself. So there's a lot of factors that play here. I don't want to watch Brady. I know. Michael Jordan wizards Jersey it. Like I want to watch Tom Brady exit on top. And he almost let it come back against the Rams last year. He's bleeding from his mouth. Like I could have been okay with that. And now people are lumping in distractions and drama and stuff into what, oh, this is why he's getting a divorce. It's worth, we don't know anything, but it's all perception is reality stuff. And I hate that that's how it's going. And I would like a perfect ending for him. I can objectively say, and again, I've never gone through a divorce, but I know a lot of people who have that sucks. It does weigh on you mentally. It does not matter how stone cold you are. Like we, if he is going through that, that is something that is on your brain. There's no way. Divorce sucks. That's the kind of now. Divorce sucks. You get it right here. I'm throwing up and at it. Out of show with Andrew Alkins. All right, let's talk about the Ravens. We talked about the Bengals. They had to make an interest. I don't, I like, are they the Chargers? Like what are we doing in the fourth quarter? It finally gets there. And they have this lead. They always do 23 to 20 win against the Browns who almost came back and won it. And this is what Lamar, very fascinating character here in 2022. They're here to come after the game. I rather not be close for him. You're right here by not nail that end of the game, but I feel like it just builds momentum. You know, especially we got this quick turn around Thursday night, I'm playing against a tough team. We just got to keep stacking. Keep stacking. Hopefully these games don't be so close coming down to nail by. Yeah, hopefully for like my blood pressure sake. I'm not, I'm no young spring chicken. I can't handle it. They've blown three fourth quarter leagues, right? They, all losses. It looked like it was going to happen. I could be positive and say, oh, but it didn't happen. They hung on and they won. But should I be worried about this? And why does it keep happening? Man, I think it's kind of connected to the Packers conversation in this way. I think that the offense needs to find new ways to get creative. I actually don't think this offense is really tailor made for Lamar. I think it have, it should have developed and matured well beyond what it has to this point. And also I think on the outside, they don't have a lot of weapons at receiver. And at some point, you know, teams are going to figure this out. And when you get into certain situations, there becomes a time in every single game where playmakers just have to make plays. And if you don't have that to rely on, which is what Aaron Rodgers is trying to insinuate at certain points, when it just comes down to, I need my guy to be better than their guy. They're deficient in that way, right? And so after a while, you can only put Lamar in the backfield for a pitch for one. That's a lot of creativity for one yard that I don't think needs to be necessary for what they have. Well said, you know sports, you know business. What do you, what should happen with Lamar? What do you, when you were watching him play or you was worried as I am on every play is going to get hurt? I'm not as worried because that's the kind of football he plays. I think that as a, in football just in general, I think the position is evolving. And if that means a quote unquote lower shelf life, and I'm only saying that because that seems to be the thing that everybody is scared of, then it is what it is. Like you have to do what you have to do for your team at this moment to win football games. And I think everyone needs to be okay with that. Like I said, my point about the Ravens are, if you're not paying the quarterback, you need to pay the wide receivers. Pay somebody. Like in Aaron Rodger's case, you have to get used to being the guy because you're making all the money, right? In their case. I mean they paid Mark Andrews, didn't they? And he didn't do squat for me yesterday. He did, he got 0.4 by the way. He got 0.4 by the way. National tight end day my ass. Unintended. Yes. That was unbelievable. I was really not happy about that. But I'm saying, how would you have advised him? Like you're very savvy. I go to you for advice financially, business wise, especially like with the mix of sports. Like how would you have advised him before the season? Honestly, I would. I just want to talk about it. I think he's done it the right way. I'm gonna be honest with you. Really? Because if you look at it, like at some point you have to understand who has the leverage and who doesn't have the leverage. The Ravens at the moment, if they say, hey, we're not going with Lamar. We're gonna go find a new quarterback. Now everybody is on notice. Front office, head coaches. He saved a lot of their jobs when he came on. So if Lamar is looking at it and whatever the contract is, and I don't know the details, but I can see franchise tag next year gets this amount. Franchise tag, the following year gets that amount. Oh, the Elkirk cousins? Like, why would I agree to a deal that I know I'm already going to get it? Everything remains. Is he gonna play on the franchise tag? If he has to, he will. I think he will. You like what he did. That's it. I do. Alternate take. I don't think a lot of people feel that way. Hey, if you're okay with the alternative, you wait. Whoever is willing to wait the longest wins the deal. He wants that guaranteed money. He does. He does. But he's already got more than he bargained for. And he deserves it. We love Lamar Jackson. Just give the ball to Marquess next time, thanks. All right, we'll be back more with Andrew Hawkins. We're gonna go rapid fire through a couple of these games that we didn't get to talk about. Maybe we'll go back to last night and we were gonna just, yeah, hit the week seven league after this, bye. I don't even know. That thing is terrifying. Whatever's going on with that camera. Victory Monday for the Jets. My goodness, another win. Rob Sala, very excited that Breeze Hall injury, absolutely brutal. We'll be continued to cheer on both New York teams. This is up an Adam Show sponsored by WD40. We need to get a check from them. We're gonna put it here. We have a creaky, listen, this isn't exactly the newest studio in the world, but I'm just gonna, I'm a big supporter of this product as Andrew Hawkins is here with us on a Monday. That was no joke, terrifying. Yeah. I thought the entire jib cam was gonna fall down. If you wanted my business device, I would say I would not give free advertising. Get it out of here. You pay for it. That's all you get. I give so much free marketing. Yeah, I see that. It's so crazy. I literally do it all the time. Everyone's like, you must be making so much money. Okay, we had so much action happen yesterday. Andrew Hawkins is here. So let's go around the league. It is our week seven roundup rapid story lines right here right now. And let's start with Dak Prescott, he was back and he was hype after the game. Hey, enjoy this day. Enjoy this one, man. Babe, let's get in tomorrow. Let's clean it up. Make sure we continue to get better each and every day. So grind on three, one, two, three, grind, eight. So it wasn't super pretty, but they got the win. Your thoughts on this. Yeah, I was excited to see Dak back. Cause I think, I mean, as great as Cooper Rush did, and I think Cooper Rush did what you want out of a backup. You go in there, you give your team a chance to win. You keep them invigorated. You keep guys playing hard. But there are just certain things he can't do that Dak can't. Some of those throws that he made against the Detroit Lions, you know, kind of reminded everybody like, oh, this is what you get with Dak. Now he has to sustain that. But I do think that was a good opponent for him to come back and get his bearings back about him. Cowboy's defense, by the way, five turnovers and they held what had been a really explosive top notch Lions offense to six measly points. All right, we saw the Jets situation, but we want to talk about the Jets still. They're undefeated with Zach Wilson, four and three and oh, four and oh. Who cares? Fans are hype, either way. Okay. New York football is back. Isn't it so fun? It's nuts. Love it. So they're four and oh with Zach Wilson. I was wrong, not three and oh, but people are getting a little hot, like hot takey on him. Yeah. Yeah. Not about like the mom stuff. I was gonna say, yes, let's dive in. Up in Adams, baby. Don't take me. We get to it here. He's the lead. But he had a lackluster, if you will, stat line for the second week in a row. And I'm seeing on Twitter some Sam Donald comparisons, no ghost talk, but no mono talk. But still, you can't ignore the fact that they are ripping off wins with him under center. Do you think everyone's being too hard on Zach Wilson? Yes. Okay. They're being too hard because they're winning. But most importantly, Zach is not turning the football over. Good point. So if he was turning the football over and he had the lackluster stat line, then I would say, yes, you're right. We could get this out of Joe Flacco if he wanted to. But he's being smart with the football. Him being cautious. At some point, he's gonna have to get over that hump to take a little bit more chances, a little more shots, and he's gonna have to improve that stat line. But as long as he's not turning the football over, because the Jets are very well coached, because they've drafted so well and they have a straight, a good young talented football team, he's given them a chance to win. Jets fans, you're so annoying because you've been waiting for so long to have something to hold on to. You've got four straight wins and you would take four wins at any point in the last 12 years and let alone against the Steelers, the Dolphins, the Packers over the Packers and the Broncos. And you're gonna find something to complain because what? Because it's not pretty. New Yorkers are gonna find something to be upset about. And Vince from Rockaway is gonna have an issue on AM Radio in New York this morning. It's unbelievable, he's leading the team to wins. All right, the Seahawks, I love this Geno thing. Yeah, I love Geno too. I just like, it's very hard to rewrite your narrative in the NFL, so when you do, it's amazing. Look at this face. It's a revenge tour, first place alone in the NFC West of all divisions. 37-23 win over the Chargers. I don't wanna talk about the Chargers, it was brutal. What impressed you most about him and that win? I mean, he just had such a command of like, the game, the offense. You get really comfortable in the NFL. Honestly, if you think about somebody's NFL career, there's obviously a natural talent and ability standpoint, right? And there's just like, very little margin between, we'll call it the last guy and the top guy. They're all elite. Most of it comes mentally, especially at the quarterback position. You have to have a feel for it. You have to have a control about it. You have to have a confidence for what you're doing with your offense. And now Geno, who came in as a second round pick to the Jets, we've seen him bounce around different coaches, different offenses. And what you're seeing now, he looks like a different player because he's confident. He's out there playing as if he knows what he's doing. He has confidence in his arm, his ability, and that matters so much. And Seahawks are reaping the benefit of it. Is it sustainable? And what does it say about Russell Wilson? Yeah, well, I don't think it says anything about Russell Wilson. Just not, I just had to speak to him. Yeah, I love how he did it to here and up and at him. It gives you a hot take to just... And what this means for Russell, no, I think it's sustainable because I just think overall, like Geno, the way he's approaching the game, the way the players are rallying around him, the way Pete Carroll is now calling these games and leading this football team, I do think it's sustainable. Now for Russell Wilson, it's the opposite. Right now it's him and his teammates and his organization and his new offense and new head coach and this new place trying to gel something that is so brand new and that's tough. It really is tough to do even for as good as Russell Wilson is. If you were, you know, your business again, what would you do for Russell Wilson? Like, what would you do? I mean, the subway commercials are bombing. Yeah, those are not great. But they're not bombing because everyone's talking about this. Yes, those are wins. So when he did Mr. Unlimited, it bombed, but everyone said it in love. Yeah, what is a bomb? That's right. That's the question. That's what I'm saying. So from your perspective, I know you're not PR, but like business-wise, is there something he could do to sort of fix this disaster that's been happening or does it all really start with wins on the field? Would you have him focus that and sort of not do any other advertised, like focus on what's going on in that locker room kind of thing? As a fellow Bangles fan here and in their facility, there is a quote from Paul Brown that says, "'Winning makes believers of us all." So for Russell Wilson, for anybody, if you win, the narrative automatically changes. When you don't, you see how quick it goes the other way. All the tuxedos seem a little messed up from a Dakota Step Brothers. Oh my God, what? How did this happen? Yeah, I like it. I love it. No, you don't. I don't love it. Like, really love it. What is that glove? Stop it. Do you see this in there? What is this motorcycle going on? If anybody who dresses like that, is that supposed to be scary? Is that supposed to be someone I'm like afraid of? I don't know what you mean. I blame the wardrobe staff. Why is he so hated? Why do people hate him? Because people hate the fact that they have this misconception of what cool is their whole lives. And they hate that this guy is now popular and cool. And they're like, wait a minute, I was told this wasn't cool my whole life. So people are looking in the mirror and they're getting a glimpse of what they are themselves. Oh my God. And they're like, man, why is this guy a star? Because I was told that I couldn't be a star doing the things that he's been doing already. Why do players hate him? I don't think players hate him. I don't think players hate him. I haven't, this is honest to God truth. I've never talked to a teammate of Russell Wilson's that says they hate Russell Wilson. Cause he's got a teammate to like really stand firm too, like a DK, like a- Yeah. I mean, again, I think it's other, it's whatever, you know, everybody's different. Not everybody likes me. But like Richard Sherman. Contrary to popular belief K, not everyone likes me. Richard Sherman has something, you know, so there's something, there's something there. There's a lot. So Richard Sherman, there might be something here, but think about who there's something with Richard Sherman with everywhere. That's Richard's personality, which is okay. Richard? But that's what I'm saying, like not everybody's personalities mix. Yeah. And that's all right. There's nothing wrong with that. And I do think that's more like he, you know, look at, he's got this commercial and he's got all the love from the Super Bowl when it was a lot of defensive, you know, performance, maybe there's something there. Maybe. Now we're just really just drawn. Yeah. I don't know what, I don't know where we're going with this. I don't know where the hell this came from. I'm so excited. They really made up for the squeaky camera here. The Titans rode Derek Henry to their win, right? And their defense, of course, 19 to 10 over the Colts. Now I talked about this all last week. Nobody's talking. Nobody ever talks about the Titans and they're such a... Nashville. Chromagin-y fans about it, but we can't deny it. Four and two, four straight wins, stranglehold on the AFC South and they were overlooked the off season, all the other AFC teams. Everyone was talking about the Dolphins and the Raiders and these big moves. Tennessee has been as hot as anyone. Do you see them as a legit threat in this conference? I mean, Delaney Walker hung it up, nobody even said anything. It was like it happened and nothing. Did nobody care? We had him on the show, I cared. Did you? Yeah, I loved it. Okay, good shout out, shout out to up and down. Yeah. Yeah, I think that they are a threat. They have been a threat for the past however many seasons, you know why? They have the best coach in that division. I am a big Mike Vrable fan and Mike Vrable, for me, he gets the most out of all of his teams. Whatever the mix of his team is, he gets that the most. You see that in the way the players fight for him. You see their reaction to him but you also see his reaction to his players. When things are going great, he makes sure he shows them the love. He takes care of them. I remember the situation with Taylor Luan had a concussion and he was trying to come back and Mike Vrable pulled him back and said, hey man, you don't have to do this. Like we're fine, we'll handle this. Give yourself the time that you need. That speaks volumes about him. That travels throughout a locker room and I think for them, they always are a threat because as long as they have a month enough talent, he's gonna get the absolute most out of his football team. You think he's a better coach than Peterson? Peterson, of course, won a Super Bowl, really changing things around there and there in his first year but they've had stability consistently like he's got it going. I think he's the best coach in that division. Absolutely. Yeah, who's the best coach in the league right now? Best coach in the league. Because the coaching is really still. Yeah, I can't not give Bella a check. I mean... Right now I'm not saying best legacy, best career. Who's coaching the best this football season? You could say McVay last year. That's a tough one. I need a break about that. You need a minute. I can't just come on with the names. I just think some of the coaching decisions this year have been so wonky that I'm... They have been. And it really matters. The game is changing too. So the bangles, I'm like, oh, they're back but the only thing that's holding me back, not the offensive line, not Chase pulling up lane. Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor. Well, I'm like, what are you doing? Half the time I'm like, hold on to your butt, Samuel L. Jackson vibes. Because I'm screaming at the TV. I think every fan of their team says that about their coach. Really? Yeah. Who do you think is coaching the best right now? I don't know. I always want to say Tomlin, but I don't... They're having a rough go. The quarterback thing was a little mishandled, I think, which it makes, it just hurts me to say. Missing, I don't know. They now have a bunch of great options at quarterback. Can we look at it? Can somebody back there in the control room look at Fanduul and say coach of the year odds? I mean, it's Dabel probably. Yeah, it's definitely probably Dabel. Is Dabel the best coach in the NFL right now? You can't tell me no. Is she the best coach? Daniel Jones out there out rushing Saquon. Saquon looking Saquon. Yeah, that's hard to argue. I'll give Dabel some of. Are they six in one? Unbelievable. Yeah, I think it's got... Or, I mean, Marissa's saying Nick Siriani. I was gonna say Siriani. Who's number one on Fanduul? Nick Siriani. Nick Siriani. I'm not bad at either one of those options. Oh, Sala. Yeah, okay. I'd vote for Dabel, I think. Sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I mean... You have such a complete team though. I go Dabel because we expected the Eagles. I don't know if we expect them to be undefeated, but we expected them to have this kind of a run. Like, looking at their schedule, looking at their team, looking at their talent around them, we all came into the season feeling like the Eagles were best positioned to make a little bit of a run. The Giants came out of completely nowhere. Yeah. We just mentioned Fanduul Sportsbook, so I'm starting to dabble in, like, parlays and all that. Do you have any advice for me on how to handle any of that? Just, like, no, not at all. All right, well, Hawkins is with me then. We're gonna kick this thing off together. I know you can tell me about Life After, which is an awesome docuseries. Amazon Prime, tell me about it. Yeah, so Life After follows the transition from NFL football player to after your career. It's produced by Thomas Jones from Mabare's running back. He did an incredible job. He reached out to me and said, hey, man, I would love to tell you a story and everything you're doing with Status Pro. And it was awesome, man. They came and they followed. They came to my home here in LA. They traveled to shoots with us in Atlanta. They talked to team members, family members. And I think it was very therapeutic for a lot of the subjects because transitioning from something that you spent your entire life doing, like to play in the NFL, it takes not 90%, it takes 100% of your focus from the age of like eight until 30, if you're fortunate to play that long. And so it is tough to say, okay, now it's time to shift that focus to do something different. And all the guys in there kind of talk about that process that it's very different. Everybody's situation is unique. And it's just an interesting proposition to have to change focus of what you've been on your entire life at the age of 30 when you have your whole life ahead of you. So it's very inspiring, I think it's going to help. And it's going to inspire a lot of people and specifically athletes who, you know, being an athlete is a marriage that is guaranteed to end in divorce. So as we, you know, kind of spread this more than an athlete gospel, I think it's going to help a lot of people. What's the biggest challenge in transitioning? Yeah, I think it's just honestly having something no longer a part of your life that is always there. I don't want to call it a crutch because it's a huge opportunity because you have to realize like everything in my life while I was a player revolved around football. It was the longest relationship that I had in my life. I had football longer than my wife, my children. I didn't go on a honeymoon because I had to train. I miss funerals, you miss weddings, you miss Christmases, after Christmas, you never a home for a Thanksgiving. That becomes the norm, right? And so all these things that football makes a decision for no longer being there, you kind of have to recalibrate and kind of change this whole thing around. And so no matter how prepared you are, and I like to say that I was probably as prepared as any player who's ever played in the national football league, even still, it takes you getting used to not being the person that you once were. I think it's your identity from when you're eight and everybody in your family makes sacrifices for you. Yes. Your siblings and everything is, and how we long put it in a really not an interesting way, but something that's always stuck with me, he said the clapping stops. So you're clapped for your entire life because you're an athlete, you're a standout, you're extraordinary, you're unique and special. And then when you retire, unless you're part of a very small 1% group of a Brady, a Rodgers, a Hall of Fame jacket, the clapping stops, the best seats in the restaurant sort of slow down and stop and halt. And you see that over and over again. And you need, I would imagine the biggest tip is support and identity outside of football at some point while you're still playing. It's finding your passion, just finding the things that you love to do with the challenges. Making it to the NFL is a personal challenge for every single player. And then getting there and trying to be the best you can possibly be. And to your point, when the clapping stops, the challenge is no longer there. So you have to find that challenge inside the life of your opportunity as an athlete. So that helps your transition. I think that's what this docu-series shows best. It's everybody having found their next challenge and it keeping that competitive spirit going because that's the thing about athletes. We are very competitive and we need to achieve. We need to conquer. We need to chase and challenge. And I think that's what status pro has provided for me. I was gonna say, you've got that with status pro. Now, have you taken the honeymoon? Yeah, we did. Five years late, but we did take it. That's all I wanted to know. You better have taken it on a honeymoon at some point. All right, we've got staff next on the show to talk about the Niners. He will be unhappy, but I'm happy to see you, Andrew Hawkins. I miss you on our old Amazon days. I know, we're gonna get the gang back together. He definitely will. All right. Oh gosh, Christian McCaffrey in that jersey, unbelievable. Stay calm, woosa, ohm. Rob Stats, Guerrero, I will be calm and reasonable. I will be calm and reasonable. That's not why we bring you on the show. Are you kidding me? Stats, the Niners fell 44 to 23. It wasn't pretty to the chiefs yesterday and to break down the state of the Niners. No one better than Stats. Stats, no one wants to calm Stats. That's not why we booked you to come on the show. Do you understand? Well, can you get me to come on when something good happens? It's always when something bad happens that you ask me to come on. There's obviously a reason for that. Now, I'm looking right now. There's an article that you just posted this morning and what is it? Did the, hold on, give me one second. It's about Shanahan. Is Shanahan losing the locker room? Your thoughts. Right, so this is the second straight week now where the Niners have had a player publicly call the team out after losing. Last week it was George Kittle who said he didn't know if the effort was there from all positions. And this week Brandon Ayuk said, we've got too many playmakers on the offensive side of the ball to only score 23 points. Who's in charge of both of those things? That's Kyle Shanahan. And the one thing you could say about Shanahan is that he always had the locker room united. Even when they stunk in 2017 and lost their first nine games, they were always playing for one another. Now in year six, not so sure. This just makes your damn day, doesn't it, Stats? I mean, there was no part of the team that was good yesterday. No part. The offense stunk. The defense got absolutely dog walked by Andy Reed who ate the 49ers breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It was a master class by Andy Reed. The 49ers are absolutely terrible. And I hate to say it, but you go look at who they've beaten and who they've lost to this year. The 49ers are absolute frauds right now. Oh, I said last week that I thought the CMC edition swung it in their favor in the NFC. Give me your G as your Jimmy G assessment. There was an interception. I believe he lost a fumble and he took a safety in the end zone. So how much of this falls on Jimmy G? Some of it, I mean, look, that's the Jimmy G trifecta, right? That's the triple crown for Jimmy Garoppolo. I seem to remember a certain host who was telling 49er fans how lucky we were to have Jimmy Garoppolo as a quarterback. And yet, again, he throws a crippling interception right before the half when the Chiefs are begging the 49ers to take control of the game after muffling a punt. Niners get the ball at the 12 yard line and Jimmy Garoppolo throws a stupid interception and the Niners don't get any points. I seem to remember, I seem to remember a certain espionation host saying, this defense is so good. This defense needs a name. We need to name this defense. It's gonna go down in history as one of the best in the league. Why are you doing the voice? Because you made fun of me. So now I'm shooting back at you because you said that. So what happened with this defense? They could not get off the field on third down. The Chiefs had a third and 20 and they threw a screen pass to Jet McKinnon. They picked up 34 yards, they scored. The 49ers battle back. It's a one-score game in the fourth quarter. Third and 11, Patrick Mahomes throws a 57-yard bomb to Marquez Valdes Scantling who runs right past Mooney Ward and absolutely cooks him and the Chiefs ultimately go on and score on that possession. The defense was terrible yesterday. Absolutely terrible, especially on third and long. Christian McCaffrey, let's make something of nothing, right? That's a bright spot. I would have maybe liked them to use him a little more. I heard a little birdie told me that he would be used only in red zone packages. That wasn't super the case. So do you think that he sort of bolsters them a little bit? And let's not forget, they've gotta get right game against those Rams who get dog walked in your words to use the parlance of your times by Shanahan all the time. It's great. He could beat one team. That's fantastic. He's five and oh in the regular season against the Rams since 2020. He's 14 and 21 against everybody else in that time. You have to be able to beat other teams and you have to be able to win more than one way. And the proof is in the pudding. And the 49ers, you only have to watch the first half of their games. When they are not leading after the first half, they never win under Kyle Shanahan. It's bad. You can only win one way. And when it doesn't go that way, they don't do it. They're winning the division, you clown. They're not gonna win the division. They're gonna lose to the Seahawks. They're gonna lose to anybody. The 49ers can lose to anyone at any time. Who's doing less with more than Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy Garoppolo? None of that matters. It's the NFC, Rams are shaky. Seahawks, I don't have to buy sustainability wise. We gotta go. They're counting me down. I love you and you're on the comment. I don't know why you said that. But I love you stats. It'll get better. I love you too, Kay. Get a win over the Rams. Big thanks to Andrew Hawkins for coming to studio. We love in-studio guests tomorrow. Tom Curran recaps Patriots and Bears and we've got Darius Butler and Markine Grubb too.