 Listen Girishankar, tell me something about yourself. Sir, my name is Girishankar. I come from Chennai, Tamil Nadu sir. I have done my undergraduate in dentistry. My father's name is Mr. S. Raghunathan and my mother's name is Mrs. M. Matsala. Both of them are retired employees from BSNN sir. No, having done the BDSU in 2014, what you have been doing since then? Sir, I have been giving civil service exam sir. I cleared in 2015 and again and again. Are you working now? No sir, I have an issue going on sir regarding my OBC status. So I am pursuing that case right now sir. So you are not practicing or doing anything on dental? Yes sir, I am practicing dentistry on a part time basis. Okay. 2014 I think you know, is BDSU four years course? It's a five years course. Five years course. And you know all these things I think the government would have spent, you would have spent. After investing so much, don't you think it's such a waste maybe? I don't think it is a waste as such sir. But I feel that in dentistry there is comparatively less scope for me to serve sir. So I feel being a part of the civil service, I will be having a larger scope to serve sir. When you thought of going for civil services, after BDS? Or before that? Sir, after BDS sir. I see. So you were, what really active civil services? Sir initially it was during my college second year sir. That one of my college seniors had cleared the civil service examinations. So that time I got to know about the exams and I studied about the civil service exams sir. I was majorly attracted by three factors sir. One is that the job, the various diversity that is available in civil services sir. Second is the social recognition that is there with the job of a civil servant sir. And thirdly is also the job satisfaction that comes with civil service. Out of these three you are attracted by number two? Sir by number one I would say sir, by the diversity that is available in civil service. What, but generally you see in general in India? Yes sir. What people perceive of IAS officer or a bureaucracy in general? But specifically for IAS officer, what people perceive about IAS officer? Any general? Sir. Don't take Tamil Nadu only with a case? Sir general perception is that they see the post of an IAS officer as having a very high... Is it positive or negative? Sir it is largely positive sir. Okay. Sir because they see IAS officer as a person to whom they can go for their problems and from whom they can get the issue resolved sir. So in that way they see it from a positive perspective. Negative? Sir negative is that they see it slightly from an, there is a slight apprehension whether they can go and approach the IAS officer for their issue. Because they see it to be a very higher level post. So they have this apprehension whether they can directly go and approach an IAS officer to get their issues resolved. Okay. So having you know from the you know done that BDS course and all that. Let me understand that are you really following it up you know on various on health journals or something? No sir I am not following. You are just not following. At least the government health schemes? Yes sir health schemes I have been following sir. Name any one which you feel is one of the best government differently. I have schemes related with the health sector. Sir I would say the current schemes of Ayushman Bharat scheme which is recent. Okay. That is a very good initiative to provide healthcare insurance to people sir. So that I would rate as a very good health scheme. Explain a little bit about Ayushman Bharat. Sir Ayushman Bharat has two major verticals sir. The first is the national health protection scheme which seeks to provide 5 lakh insurance to the families per year sir. And second is the health and wellness approach sir wherein they want to upgrade the primary healthcare centers. Health and wellness centers. They want to focus more on the preventive aspect of diseases in the health and wellness approach. Why still some of the states have not really opted for the Ayushman Bharat scheme? But depending on some states I am still not opted. This and we do not want. We want our own schemes. Yes sir. Can you name any such states? Sir I am not aware of the states that have not opted. Okay. Sir I think the reason would be that maybe the states have a better scheme to provide health insurance. Okay. And also there is a reason that the states have to contribute 40% of the funds for this particular scheme sir. As it is a centrally sponsored scheme. So certain states have a feeling that their funds are being tied up for this purpose and so they might not opt for the schemes. Okay. Let us come to a related subject not on the schemes. What is happening maybe? Corona virus actually. Sir Karankee. I am not going to ask you. You know doctor. I want to know what is going to be back or likely impact on the Indian economy actually. Sir one is that Indian economy is attached to China in terms of supply chain sir. So any disruption in supply chain. You asked about Delhi right. Sorry. You asked about Delhi and connected right. No I am saying Indian economy. Yeah please continue. Sir so Indian economy is connected to Chinese economy sir in terms of supply chain. So and lot of raw materials and initial products are imported from China to India sir for further processing and export. So those would be affected sir. Those industries would be heavily affected sir. For example the pharmaceutical industry which heavily relies on Chinese active pharmaceutical ingredients is facing certain shortfall in shortage of resources. Similarly even the diamond cutting industry of Surat is also facing problems because export markets of Hong Kong is getting affected due to Corona virus. I think something has happened yesterday all over the world and Indian markets also. Something has you know very very striking happened. Have you seen I mean two days. Yes sir there is a crash in the stock market sir. Yeah. All across the world. It is majorly on fears of recession or a global recession due to Corona virus outbreak. Have you opted for foreign service also. Yes sir. Can we significant outcome of term visit in India. In terms of defence sector India has signed certain agreements to import weapons from the United States. That will help in boosting the defence. Name any one. Sir we have signed deals for two helicopters. One is the Apache 22 helicopter and other is the MH 60R helicopter. What is the difference between the two. Sir the Apache helicopter is being procured for use in army sir. And the MH 60R helicopter is being procured for deployment in naval vessels as a frontline helicopter. This term visit was more of a particle in nature or it was really having some substance. Sir it did have substance sir because we have signed deals relating to defence sector energy sector. But it was also it is also being perceived as having political impact sir. What is the deal on energy sector. Sir India has initiated talks to import more oil from the United States. As a replacement for oil that we are importing from the Gulf nations to diversify our imports. You are interested in turtle work. Yes. What do you do as part of that. Sir in turtle work during the night times from the month of January end to March end. We walk along the beach sir along the Chennai coast and we collect turtle eggs which are laid by Oliveridly Turtles. And it is transferred to a hatchery sir where it is hatched and then released into the sea after it is hatched. You work along with some organization. Yes sir along with the organization. Sir it is the student sea turtle conservation network sir in Chennai. So it happens throughout the year or in a particular period. Sir it happens between January end to March. And you release the turtles to the sea. Sir that is taken care by forest department sir. They maintain the hatchery and they release the turtles into sea. We spend a large part of our time in school and colleges as part of our education. Yes sir. Now if you are given an opportunity for revamping our education system. Yes sir. What are the primary or important changes that you think we need to bring in? One in education sector I feel there should be more of practical work sir compared to the theoretical part. Theoretical part should be given as due weight itself but along with that practical part also should be given more weight itself. Secondly the application of whatever is being taught in school that part also has to be emphasized sir. Rather than only focusing on the theoretical aspect we should also focus on what are the possible applications of this particular thing sir. And thirdly we should also focus on the physical fitness of students. Not just focusing on the education aspect but also the physical fitness aspect of students. There are people who suggest that to bring about the social change. Education or literacy or just to take it to the case of literacy. Literacy is very important. Do you think literacy is a key factor in social change? Yes sir literacy is definitely a key factor sir. So having this ability to read and comprehend what is given in a material is important for them to form their own opinions. And then to bring about social change. Hi Giri Shankar. You have done your ashras and dental surgery. Why is the dental aspects of the surgery not included in the insurance, health insurance? No ma'am till now it was not included ma'am but recently in the past 5 years we are seeing inclusion of dental healthcare also into health insurance. Why it has been included now? Ma'am now it is being included because of increasing awareness among people regarding the importance of dental healthcare. And also the expenditure on aesthetic aspect of dentistry is also increasing in the recent times. So because of these factors dental healthcare has also got its place in the health insurance. So which is better managed in India by the regular health insurance or the life insurance or the non-life insurance. According to you we are more concerned as a public or a private sector which is more taken care and you are not aware of it. And as a doctor I want you to shape some light of difference between an epidemic and a pandemic. Epidemic is a particular disease which is seen at a higher frequency in the region where it is usually seen. But pandemic is when it spreads to areas outside where it is usually seen. So pandemic is more like a global wide spread wide geographical presence whereas epidemic is restricted to that particular area but at a higher frequency. So coronavirus falls under the category of? Ma'am till now it has not been declared as a pandemic. It has been. You are from CBC Philip A student. So how was KV and Nagodaya different? And there has been a huge agitation in Tamil Nadu of not introducing Nagodaya school. So why is it so? Ma'am I am not aware of the difference between KV and Nagodaya school. So have you heard of this agitations against Nagodaya entering into Tamil Nadu? No. This is a hot topic happening politically. And have you heard of happiness index? Yes. Can you shed some light on that? Yes. And the world happiness index is released by the United Nations. So here countries are ranked according to the happiness that people perceive themselves to be having. So it is based on various parameters. So the first one is the social capital that is present in the country. The perceived feeling of people to have someone to rely upon. Then second it also depends upon the freedom that they have. The perceived freedom that they have in pursuing what they want to do. And it also depends on the literacy rate and also on the per capita income that they are earning. So what is lacking in India? The categories which you specified. What are the lacking by which is pushing us paid below in the ranking? Ma'am I think our income levels will be low. That is the only category because of which we are following. Ma'am not because of only that. Ma'am our income levels, our literacy levels in all aspects we have to comprehensively improve. Which country is ranking on top? Ma'am right now Finland has been ranked one. The current world happiness report. Finland? Finland. In India? With state. Please do check whether it is Finland. And it is also not only the economic and the social aspects. Environmental aspects are also linked with the happiness index of how much your tree or the green cover is. That is also linked. You know the unit has now redefined health to include well-being as well. Yes ma'am. She was talking about happiness. Yes ma'am. So what is well-being covered more than perhaps health on one side? And I think you also mentioned something which is very important which is perceived freedom. Yes ma'am. I don't remember which country but perhaps one of these is East European countries. There was this lady who was rated a young age. Okay. As a result the trauma led her to depression for a long time. Finally she argued that she should enter life. And interestingly the court allowed her to enter life. So would you consider this as perceived freedom? So can someone be free by deciding to end their life? Just because of the traumatic conditions they undergo and they don't perceive any meaning of life on one side. And on the other side we have a new definition for health which includes well-being. Apparently that includes psychological health. Yes ma'am. So are we at loggerheads in considering these two aspects which has freedom to understand what one's life is and the other is to perceive a global health which includes perhaps I don't know limited choice making. Ma'am I feel the person should not have the right to end their lives in certain cases. Under which it is defined by law. But I think for people who have been disturbed on a psychological basis they would not be in a proper frame of mind to decide whether to take their life. For such persons we have to provide mental health care services. We have to try to improve them to come out of the psychological state. So in that way I feel the perceived freedom should not go to the extent of ending one's life in the absence of any infirmity ma'am that disables them. I just wanted to ask you connected to that. You said that someone who is mentally challenged cannot decide or is not equipped to decide whether to end his or her life. But another person perhaps is normal. So what is the difference between normality and disability for mind? Who decides? Is it decided completely by DSM? Do you believe that the DSM includes all human capabilities, human dispositions of the mind? You know what's the DSM right? Sorry ma'am. Sorry ma'am, not of them. You can later check what's the DSM. The whole field of psychiatry and psychology follows DSM. Ma'am pardon me if I had said that ma'am. Actually I didn't mean mentally challenged people ma'am. But they would not be in a proper state of mind ma'am. For example some person who has been suffering from a debilitating condition for a very long period of time he might be in a certainly disturbed state of mind ma'am. So at that stage he should not be given the right to make a decision. Do you think that people who have contributed to this world in many disciplines like science they were all very healthy? There are a lot of people who are mentally challenged but contributed a whole huge lot. Yes ma'am. One very famous example because it also can be portrayed in the movie of the beautiful mind. A beautiful mind. You know who I am talking about right? No ma'am. No ma'am. Who was kids of rain. Okay ma'am. So who always lived with delusions but then he contributed a lot to the future of matter ma'am. Yes ma'am that way we cannot write off anyone for their informatics ma'am. But in certain cases I meant they would not be in a right state of mind to make decisions. For that time we should try to provide that help that will enable them to take the right choice. And hello Mr. Girishankar. I think you are confident enough to take UPSA interview. Yes sir. How confident you are? Sir I am very confident to take the UPSA examinations. So define that very confident? Sir very confident in the sense I am confident enough to properly address the questions that are being placed to me by the board as well as to express my positives to the board so as for them to select me sir. So are you now properly expressing yourself to the board? Sir for some questions I have not been able to properly express sir. For other questions I am trying my best to express. Okay. And since your father and mother both are working in PSU BSNS. Yes sir. So when in 1941 when our independence came there was a debate between PSU existence of PSU and private sector. No things have changed. And what do you think about that debate? And what is your take on PSU versus private sector? Who will propel India's economy towards the growth and development? Sir I feel there are certain sectors where the public sector has to take the where the market mechanism is not sufficient to address all the needs of the society. Sir in those sections public sector has to take care sir. But in the remaining sectors wherever we can liberalize private sector will have to be allowed so as to take the lead in promoting the economy as well as the sectors. Okay. What is your take on government's decision on Air India? Sir Air India definitely has to be disinvested sir so that the health of the airline industries, the health of the company is increasing sir and also it increases the competition in the airlines. Okay. So if you are placed at the disposal of BSNL what would you decide knowing its condition and such a loss making graph also we have been observing for past two decades so what will be your position on BSNL now? Sir BSNL also I feel should be disinvested largely sir because the private sector has largely taken up the role in providing telecommunication service. But in certain areas as the telecommunication minister has mentioned BSNL is providing strategic telecommunication network like for the army as well as for the armed forces other forces. Which one you are using? Sir. Which one you are using? Sir I am using airtel sir. So what if you are saying the airtel what comes in your mind immediately now? Sir for airtel sir. Yeah. Suppose you have been using Vodafone then what comes in your mind? Sir the previous hatch dog advertisement comes to my mind sir. Okay. Yeah. Thank you sir. And I just want to know your opinion on one nation one nation card. Sir I feel the one nation one nation card policy has to be implemented sir because it has certain positives like providing the public distribution system benefits to migrant labourers who come from one state to another sir. So in that way I feel the card should be implemented but states should be adequately provided with supplies so as to ensure that their resources are not spread very thinly sir. The extra resources for accommodating migrant labourers will also have to be meted in and they have to be provided with provisions. So I am going to think the local population logited because it is an impact on their own resources what they are going to do. Yes sir. So I am going to think it will lead to law and order situation or anything like this CAA or something like that. Sir definitely the local population has been raising their voice sir. For example even in Tamil Nadu certain sections have been expressing opinion about the one nation one card policy sir. But we have to take that section of society along sir. We should take them into confidence. The TN has agreed for this or they are still not agreed. Sir Tamil Nadu has not agreed sir for the policy. Are you sure? Yes sir. Please take again. Okay. That will be means. Okay. Yeah. Just last piece. So what was your subject remains? It was anthropology. Okay. And lay off this CAA protest and what has been going on. I just want to know the link between the citizenship because we are a nation state. Okay. So nations of citizenship and the tribal identity. I just want to draw a link. I just want you to draw a link between these two. Sir tribal identity is how the tribes identify themselves. Sir it is a cultural identity sir. The tribal identity as such whereas citizenship is a administrative identity that is provided by the states. So in certain cases there is a conflict between tribal identity and between the state the between the administrative identity that is provided sir. Which one do you support? Sir I would support the administrative identity to be more authentic sir. Okay. If I am for example I am a Irula tribe and I am calling myself Irula and you are a statistic collector sitting as a statistic collector. You want them to be identify themselves as an Indian or Indian yes obviously. So if they want Irula then you are imposing Indian. So this creates a issue right. Yes sir. I want to know more. Sir we should not be imposing only the identity of Indian on the tribal population sir. Whatever identity that they are promoting for themselves as their with their community name that also has to be embraced sir. But for the purpose of administration we should go ahead with the administrative identity that is provided to them sir. Okay thank you. Thank you sir. Okay thank you. Thank you sir. We will call you. I said no please. Sir your first mock interview you attended your mock interview sir. Sir I attended one mock interview sir. Last week. You attended. Yes sir. Sir it was on March 19th. Oh it's time of the day. Okay you tell me how you performed in this mock interview. Sir I performed okay sir but I didn't perform very well sir. What was the last one? The last one was also on the same lines. Same. Yes sir. No two mock interviews are given. You just listed out your own weaknesses and strengths actually. This is only to help you out. Sir one I have to improve my voice. Okay. I feel when I am answering my voice is going down sir. Okay. And secondly for the questions for which I do not know the answer for that also my voice is going very low sir. Okay this is one. Next. Sir next I feel I should be more updated with what is going in the current even. Okay. Next one. Sir at these two. Okay. Spence. Sir spence I feel I am able to. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sir I would say I am able to express to an extent what my opinion is on a particular issue. Okay. Fine. So actually whatever you said. Bind large is correct both strength and weakness is also correct. Okay. I think you started the interview I think I have to really tell you actually. It only is your suit that you can improve. The blender you needed the moment you came you never missed anyone. That is totally unpardonable. This is the first impression and you are looking lost actually. Of course there will not be much problem for them to you to enter and sit and whatever but suppose is generally looks like that is not only your face in the interview. It means also shows that probably in a unknown situation you also how you will react that is also one thing being checked actually. So you are looking lost. Second I mean general opposition which I just I thought I should tell you. You are not very mentally prepared and you take initializing you answering the question you take little bit time initial time you are little confused and nervous. Once you start speaking you are much more confident at that time. Probably I think you have to think that you are going for interview is really important and you have come up to this stage you are good but not like answering like when he asked how confident you should not be artificially speaking. When you started with the bang and all then said no some question was not able to answer. Probably I think could have been little more moderate answer. Listen I what you are thinking little more moderate answer would have been there. This is a surprise question could be asked sometime you know since you have these bite was asked since you have done BDS 2014 even I think that first part that why you haven't gone and spend money and all that you didn't touch upon I didn't pursue also you only when how the eyes obviously perceive that I think literally you did it better but could have need to explain actually. As you rightly pointed out yourself I think your current affairs because not much what I was little bit asked better answer is you know I should also could be better. What you ask that question probably expected probably you should be knowing really there but then definitely you can perform well prepare yourself properly actually and don't commit such small small mistake on etiquettes actually that's important. Related to Air India you were telling that this investment is a good way to bring back the this could help this could force you to enter into LIC also. So LIC is entering into the private and people investing in the things could be prepared with the answer. Actually she came all the way to tell me to ask you about something on BDS and this is parents part of it. Yeah. This question was slightly different that is totally also I think very needy impact will come the motions have been given Vodafone Airtel and you are not able to catch that point. Airtel recently there is an issue with regards to Vodafone is actually they have both is that only Supreme Court order they have to pay Vodafone is not in position to act out. I mean that was such a current topic. Okay. You are telling anything you want you want backgrounds also on this thing. Okay. Just one second. Yes. Doctor you have trained as a Yes sir. So you have a lot of experience which none of us make here. None of us haven't opened someone's mouth or found something there right. Okay. Which means you have a huge amount of confidence within you which of course reflects on your face the intensity in your glance definitely shows that you have concentration but perhaps some of the feedback he has given how you can inculcate in the coming days is that imagine when a person comes to you and that patient is very nervous how would you treat that person right you have to put that person into ease right you will have your own ways of doing that by talking to him or by bringing yourself into a very relaxed state right. So imagine that that others are our patients and you are the dental surgeon. Okay. So perhaps yeah so that kind of you know because you have the confidence a little bit of a connect a little bit of a relaxed connect can come perhaps you have to remember that you have an expertise which none of the none of perhaps most of the animals wouldn't have unless they are a dentist. Sorry I think I just want to tell you a small story on this thing. Yes sure. It's like you have to careful also on this thing one more doctor we have more interview I don't know. I remember I was there. Maybe I think some other you were not there actually what was happened did reasonably well but what was coming that I mean she was was this like whole interview was just interacting with the patient that's what impression comes casualness comes or sometime comes like you said why I thought I wish that this thing you said because your doctor good you think of patient because what happened doctor sometime very instructive actually and they don't take the other views into the that's the old view because today's view in medical field the patient is concerned as the informed patient the old patriarchal view is that the patient is a stupid person right not any more patient is an informed patient so I think you should consider of course the people sitting up for patients. Follow her advice they are informed patients. She did really well in the market only I think just by this thing then everyone was telling them probably I think just just take it off that you know I think she was different I mean I'm not remembering which branch you was and all that. No no I think confidence in liberal is really good in yours this is not much problem and all that you already analyzed your weakness and all that only thing is that this mistake this sort of a mistake like coming and wishing and giving a not lost look in the beginning and all that will be better for all the very best. Thank you. Thank you. That will help when you think that others are patients. The patients you don't look like that right. The patient will run over you close your business right. So you would rather develop a glance by which you will have the people sit and look to you depend on you. Thank you. Thank you. All the best. Thank you.