 I would like to call to order this regularly scheduled meeting of the Chittenden Solid Waste District Board of Commissioners. Today is Wednesday, April 26, 2023, 6 p.m. And again, we do have a quorum present, so I will begin the meeting. First item on the agenda is the agenda. Are there any requests to make any changes or additions to the agenda? I'm hearing none. I'm seeing none. So the agenda will be followed as presented in the meeting packet. Second item on the agenda is a public comment period. Are there any members of the public present either at the Williston Town offices or present on Zoom or by the telephone who would like to address the Board of Commissioners? There's no one from the public here, Paul. Thank you. I'm seeing no one on Zoom, and we have nobody on the phone as I can tell. So I will close the public comment period. We'll then move on to item number three, which is the consent agenda. A number of items in there. I won't enumerate all of them, but it's been in the packet. Hopefully everybody's had a chance to review that. Are there any requests to remove an item from the consent agenda for further discussion? Yeah. Sorry, South Burlington. Yes, South Burlington. Thank you. I'd like to pull off the item about the Executive Director updates. Okay. We'll remove the Executive Director update. Any other requests for an item to be removed? Not removal, but I do have one change to the minutes. Could you tell us what that change is? Yes. On March 8th, Tom Jocelyn is listed as attending, and he was not in attendance. Thank you. I'm sure the final record will make that change known. There are being no other requests than to remove any items from the consent agenda. We will accept the consent agenda with the exception of item 3.3, the Executive Director update. All the other items now have been accepted and approved as presented in the consent agenda. We'll move on then to item number 3.3, the Executive Director update. Allison, I believe it was you who requested that this be removed? Yes. You have a question there? Yep. I was hoping Sarah could talk a little bit about the first item there about the new materials at the DOC's, the shredded paper and hardcover books. Sounded like there's a pilot program that was successful. I was hoping she could tell us a little bit more about that and then maybe also what potential anticipated costs will be for having those new services to take those items. Sure. Thank you for asking about the costs. I should have mentioned that in my work. It actually is, the pilot was done at no cost to CSWD. And going forward, when we do issue the request for proposals for services, that will be part of the condition of service, is that we collection not across the district anymore. So I don't have the tonnage or the pounds that have been collected, Josh is on vacation speak, but I will update the board with that information in the next Executive Director update to see how many pounds or I don't know if it's tons, but how many pounds have been collected through the pilot program. The intent is to have it fully in place as an awarded contract in July, not smoother than that, but certainly by July. Just to clarify, did you say that so there's going to be going, you'll go out to bid, but it shouldn't cost anything? It's more of a formality and whoever's going to provide the service. Correct. There's value in that material to someone who can't collect it and then bail it in a manner that is not as messy as it is for us to do. So eventually, I think the goal really is the longer term goal here or now is that currently we accept bags of spare paper in recycling products. And once it gets to the MRF, when the bags are intact and survive the trip, our employees are able to pull the bags off the line and then send those for bailing. But with regularity, quite a bit of frequency in the transport, transport to the MRF and then in the process at the MRF, the bags end up open. So that's where they tend to contaminate the container airlines and it just makes a mess. And it's a waste of that good material. So the goal really would be to say, okay, if this pilot program continues to be a success and then as a regularity it's to the program, can we then say no more shred of paper in the blue bins or blue parts, it's all brought off. And that way, you keep as much shred of paper out of the MRF as possible, keeping all of the spoons in the cleaner and just helping kind of keep the dust down as well in the MRF because shred of paper, the fibers tend to contribute to the dust situation at the territory cycle. One more question. Have you thought about whether there would be a charge of people that weren't also bringing trash, like I know with the, am I correct that for compost and recycling, if you're not bringing trash, there's a small fee. Do you know if that would be similar or is that too be determined? That's a good question. We haven't discussed that yet. Again, this is just a pilot program to see if people would even participate and we were thrilled that they did to the extent that they did. So we know that our customers are happy to have that drop-off situation and are, you know, have no issue keeping it segregated. As far as there being any additional fees, if that's all you're bringing, we haven't had that conversation yet. So the good question, I'll bring it up with our operations team, but right now I don't think the fee is in the mix, but, you know, certainly it could be. I would, I would tend to say no, only because if we're not being charged anything, it doesn't seem that, you know, there's, we would only be trying to recover kind of the internal, any internal costs that may be associated with manage that material, but it won't be our containers. It's not without paying anything to have it removed. Certainly we'll, we'll keep an eye on it. We'll discuss it, but right now there's not, not a sense that we want to charge for fee without material. Thank you. Ken, your hand is up. You're muted. Not sure whether this is the right order or when. Sometimes on the packets I get confused if it's a consensus agenda from something from last time or this time, but I wanted to ask a question about the expansion of the bottle bills. So is there a time that would be okay to ask, bring up that topic? For the other business? Other business. Yeah, I don't think we have that on the agenda this time. That'd be great. I just have to remember that for other business. Okay. Any other questions or discussion on the executive director update? Yeah, Paul, I have a question. The second bullet item on the septic mound sand. Can you provide a little bit more detail on any timing or if that will also be pursued as a pilot initially? Just curious there. Yeah. This is a very, very recent development as in about a week to 10 days ago. So this is a brand new possibility for use of our PGA and as I mentioned, the initial meeting between the folks at ANR and SMUVM was really extremely positive that this has some really good potential to be utilized sooner rather than later. So the next steps for us are to get some samples of the material that's already at the Wicom quarry and to see if there can be a test site done by the folks in water and wastewater. And then to also get some back over to them to have them test for the qualities of septic mound sand in addition to what they're already testing for the engineering qualities for used with V-trans and in sub-base. So this is happening now and the wastewater folks would love to have access to the material as soon as they can. There's some ARCA funds that need to be used in the next couple of years. So if this could become part of projects that need to be used through that funding mechanism, then that will help to keep the cost of that program down and to be able to provide services and septic mound services to even more people than they would necessarily be able to provide services to just because the cost of transportation is wrapped up into the cost of the projects that are being charged back to ARCA. So from our perspective, there's a good amount that is available for use at Wicom's. So it really is UVM and our wastewater doing some initial tests and they don't have to be doing those over the next few months. So the hope is that they'll be able to start utilizing this material as soon as both, as soon as it's really in our wastewater, it will satisfy that it's it's a suitable replacement. Does it have similar standards or specs that it has to be tested some the way a PGA for road base would need to be tested? It's actually it's it's interesting the when I was talking about the shred of paper before, you know, our goal is to keep shredded paper out of the the PGA out of the glass of PGA and the wastewater said for their purposes for septic mounds, the paper is not a factor. It actually initially helps. It provides some kind of organic material for the septic bugs to kind of get going. So for them that is not an issue. So that's why they're pretty excited about the possibility of being able to use this as a replacement. So it's really more the porosity and and flow capabilities of the material to make sure that it doesn't well the things can flow through the need to flow through and be there as a filter and it's already an approved use under the PGA guidance from ANR. So this this feels like it's on a little bit of fast track of why I want to kind of update the board and in the report say that you can see they're pretty excited about the possibility of this. Yeah, it's an exciting prospect. Thanks for sharing. Lee, your hand was up and then it went down. Did you have a question? Yeah, but I think Sarah pretty much answered it. I was just clarifying that it is mound sand and not the aggregate used within the mound. That's pretty interesting. I don't imagine it will cut the costs of constructing mound systems considerably. Yes, exactly. That's why folks are very encouraged because right now the mound sand is being brought in from hundreds and hundreds of miles away. So there's a large need in both treatment and Addison County at the moment. So anything that can cut the transportation cost is critical. Yeah, just just the cost of the material. I mean, it's $35, $40, the aggregate for the sand, not the counter trucking. It's exciting. Any other questions on Sarah's executive director update? Since this really was just a memorandum of information, there's no action required by the board to accept this. So we'll just accept the report as presented and further clarified in this discussion. And then we'll now move on. Everybody is agreeable. We'll move on to item number four on the agenda. The community cleanup fund update, which is starts or appears on page 76 of your meeting packet. And I'll turn it over to either Nola or Sarah to walk us through that. Or maybe 20, well, 26. It's actually in both. Okay. Yes. There was an update as part of the general finance record report. And then there is the memo, which yes, is on page 76. And it is physically another reminder that the fund is here that exists and that we wanted to utilize. And so some of the, some examples were provided in the memo and also the current, the totals. So I actually should provide the current annual allocation on page 77 of the PDF packet. And then on page 76 sort of as part of the report shouldn't list, I believe, the available kind of what's left right now if you've already utilized some of your funds. Yes. So on page 26 is the current year allocation and page 77 is the allocation as of July 1. And as a reminder, the funds will no longer carry over, but they'll be fully funded again as of July 1. So the basic message is if you want to use some of this, this year's budgeted monies got to act quickly. I know the town of Underhill is interested in using some for the green update to pay for the disposal of all the bags. There's also some discussion perhaps of hosting, posting in Underhill a shred fest. And I believe that that would be an acceptable use of the money that's under discussion in the town. But for that out to other commissioners, it might be a popular way to use some of the money. I would think many residents would appreciate the ability to get rid of some sensitive documents and not have to go out and buy their own shredding machine. Rick, your hand is up. Yes. I have thought about putting something in front porch forum to let the community know that this fund exists. But I don't really feel like I know enough about it to be able to talk about it and print. What is the best way to get more educated about exactly what it is, ways that it's typically used, guidelines that I might offer to the community? How do I educate myself? So we are happy to talk more about it specifically with you. We can also help craft a from porch forum post that you can utilize and we can offer that as a template for any other commissioners. And essentially this is reading through Nola's memo. It really is something. It's something that's been around for a long time that the district has provided. It went way back in the beginnings to help with tires and we lose the tire roundups and the pullers out of the way screen. But it has evolved over the years and it's in a myriad of ways. I know that Lee has used it a bunch in Burlington. Kelsey and I think just faked a project this year in Williston. And there's a variety of things that will be applicable. It does need to relate to cell waste. That's kind of the only caveat. But as we all know cell waste can be a lot of different things. I think in the past some folks have used it for composting workshop material. There's been a lot of... I was going out to the rest of the commissioners. What have you done in the past? Rain, I think you've used some of the money in the past to use locally in Williston. Fire roundup. I've mentioned that every chance I had. It was very popular in Underhill. Lots of people went out in their fields pulling out old tires and bringing them in. Paul? For the new members, we have, the board has on occasion allowed communities to take two or three years worth of funds to do major projects. Specifically the one that we did was the tire storage place in Milton where they used like three years worth of their funds. And they didn't get refunded for the next two years. But they could lump summit. So it would make for a bigger project. Yeah, that was several years ago. And it probably was counted as similar to a grant perhaps. So I think that if the board were to authorize that, I would want you to just give a blessing to it. It could be something along the lines of a grant. We don't really use this as a grant. We did increase the amounts to kind of that three year total, but kind of all at once. And then it just doesn't carry over if you get renew. So we could kind of straddle a couple of fiscal years if you knew you had a big project. And maybe with a phase one and a phase two, phase one was completed in May or June, you could take advantage of the current fiscal years, pinup funds, and then the second phase was in July or August. For the same calendar year, you could use your second allotment to kind of pay for a larger project that way as well. So another approach. But generally what happens is the projects can be at the request of the community members. It can be a lot of discussions with the select board. It could be a project that the commissioner sees in need for. Usually what happens is someone can look for the select board or the council will approach the commissioner and say, hey, we're seeing a need for this in this part of town. Do you think this fund would qualify? And then you could have a conversation with me, with Nola, with the folks on staff and saying, you know, what do you think of the people parameters? And then we would just kind of walk you through it and say, yep, that seems to be a great use or not really the way that's structured. However, maybe structured this way at my work. And then, no, I believe it's a reimbursement process. That's correct. So you would send us the receipts for the project after it's been completed, and then we would reimburse the town for the expense. But I think that's how we're doing it now, rather than just cutting it down. Nola, if you could, yeah, be able to confirm. Yes, that's accurate, Sarah. Okay. So it is a reimbursement for the town would need to lay out the funds for the project first and then submit the invoice for the completion, you know, detail of the completed project. Margie, your hand is up. Yeah, so I'm kind of new at this. And there's not much time left before June 16. So, and if it's a reimbursement process, does the project have to be completed by the end of the fiscal year, or do we just have to ask the money for the money by June 16th? That's a good question. Nola, do you think both parameters are in the policy? Yeah, so I believe that the guidelines state that you need to provide a receipt of payment so that way it becomes reimbursable. And again, like Sarah said, if it's a larger project, then maybe you have some receipts available in this fiscal year and some in next fiscal year, since you have the full value of each fiscal year, you won't be shorting yourself in a single fiscal year necessarily. Okay, but we have to have we have to have the receipt in the fiscal year for which we're seeking the money. Okay. Yeah. And our fiscal year in June is perfect. Right. But we need to and we need to submit our request by June 16. Is that right? That right? That is preferable so that the checks can be reimbursed back by June 3. It takes us, we have like a two week. Right. So we need the receipt by June 16. Is that am I understand? Okay, got it. Thank you. And you've got a question. I would love to hear from people uses that they've that they've done rather than, you know, the opposite. I'd love if commissioners who've used this fund would maybe respond to an email from the admins to give us examples that could be shared around and give us examples. And, and if there were any glitches, for example, with with with Paul's tire round up, you know, were there any farmers who brought hundreds of tires or wanted to bring hundreds of tires, you know, that kind of thing. I'd love to hear and learn from learn from your experience. I can share just very briefly that I believe that there was a limit on the number of tires that could be brought in, which we didn't want somebody bringing in hundreds of tires. The biggest challenge was knowing if somebody was a resident of the town of Underhill. And it worked for us because the town administrator knows everybody. For larger towns, you might want to go to the bother of saying, you know, could you provide some proof of residency so that people from out of town or out of out of the district weren't bringing their materials. The only other problem was that we ordered one one roll off container and by the end of the day had had to order two more. It was a good problem to have. Margie. So another question is hopefully it's not too dumb. How much of these things cost? I mean, how much was your tire round up? I don't know the numbers, but it was within the mount that was allocated for the town. Okay. It would be in the records from a couple of years ago, but I couldn't tell you off the top of my head. The shred fest thing, I think they're talking about $200 an hour to have a truck come out. That's very helpful. Thanks. Kelton. Yeah, the town of Wilson just used our funds to they had taken possession of a home that was in need of removal. So they used it for covering part of that removal cost. We've used it as matching funds for public containers and upgrading our containers around the city. We do have matching containers currently, but they're not ideal for keeping out rain, water, and they don't have like the current logos, etc. So we've used it for matching funds the last couple of years. I'd say one of the challenges is coordinating with the city and making sure that we get an invoice and just submitting their request because still kind of navigating something from last year, honestly. For that, which is just kind of one of the nuances of coordinating with multiple groups. We also actually have a building that we'll need to demolish and I would love if there was a grant for that because it's certainly going to be more than what our cleanup funds can cover, but maybe that's a topic for another day. Probably a way that we can work with you on that. A good discussion to have and get some ideas flowing. I think we're now ready unless there are any other questions or comments on the community cleanup funds. We're ready to move on to then item number five, decommissioning of the existing MRF. This is discussion only. It's kind of a good thing to do. We're ahead of the curve here, but it's time to do a little brainstorming, I think, but I'll turn it over to Sarah. Hope I haven't stolen your thunder. No, no, not at all. So this was a suggestion from Rick a few months ago to you'll kind of start to kick off the conversation sooner rather than later about what might we want to do with the current materials recycling facility once it becomes the former materials recycling facility. And there's a lot of a lot of possibilities. And what I would like to do is to during some conversation, during some ideas, take those ideas back to my team, and then we can start to kind of sit through and bring back logistics information, cost information, prioritization, perhaps kind of help the board to prioritize. Talk me if we're talking about specific materials, get an idea for well, how much of the waste stream does material X represent versus material Y material Z. And what does the building, the physical building itself need? And actually going to share here just so you can see what the building looks like. So again, this is the current MRF, right? So you come in here. This is the Kasella's transfer station right next door. Bay for Commodities is over on this direction. So people currently drive in and they come in here over the scale. And then they will drive down this way. And here is our under this area is our tipping floor. And then the sorting happens here back and forth. And then this is bail storage. So you can see there's a loading dock here. This is a truck getting ready to have bails loaded onto it. This is also some outdoor bail storage, outdoor bail storage. Glass is under here, PGA. And this area over here is the current office space. So there's not a, and again, this whole, this building here, a little bit of thing that's exclusive about this is about 32,000 square feet. Of space. I'm going to stop my share here. And it does need work. So it needs some pretty significant rehabbing to bring certain areas up to snuff. It really could use a brand new roof for being totally up front here. Definitely needs a new bathroom area and employee bathroom area. So it would not be without some additional investment, but we would want to bring those numbers back to a more concrete fashion. So really what I'm looking for is what might you want us to start thinking about and bring additional information back? And we've got about hopefully two-ish years before a new mirf is built and then it will take probably another six to eight months, maybe another year to whatever's going to be in there to get going. So we're looking at about two to three years. So we're ready to open up the conversation, Sarah. I see Ken's hand is up and then we'll go to Rick. This is so exciting. I was sorry to talk so much tonight. I'm going to stop after this. I was just talking to TerraCycle today, the people at TerraCycle, about their cigarette butt recycling program. So they're using every part of the cigarette butts. Obviously it's a weird thing to collect, but it's the largest item of litter in the country and the world, I guess, and they're using the tobacco and the paper for composting in there, turning the plastic filters with this special acetate plastic into a powder, which is becoming plastic materials. And that might be a little too weird or specific for us, but is there some specialty recycling project that would be regionally important that we could just be out of the forefront? I mean, that would be so cool if we could invest in something that could actually recycle something that's hard to recycle and be the only person in our entire region to do it and maybe make some money from it at the same time. I'm just going to be taking notes and only commenting if clarification is needed. Rick. Plastic fill. There's not many ways to get rid of that at this point, and I think that taking it to grocery stores is a solution that really doesn't scale. Henry. Something that's been mentioned was the furniture deconstruction there because you mentioned how maybe the private sector can take it, but until somebody researches and establishes the metrics of it, how much can actually be recycled to tear apart furniture. And this would have the space to do that. Just drop it all off there. Of course, you need to be able to physically tear them apart, but just basically a pilot program to measure the amount of effort to tear furniture apart and after that effort, how much of it's actually recyclable. And then go from there. So that'd be a temporary policy. Paul. I think somebody will go to Alan and then Margie after Alan. The possibility of consolidating our hazardous waste program, we're leasing space, I believe, still for the paint program and would be able to consolidate everything in one location with that building. Margie. Yeah. I mean, along the same lines as some of the other ideas, I'm thinking about the three to filters I just threw out and all of the plastic dental floss containers and, you know, Tom's of Maine is now saying it's toothpaste tubes are recyclable, but all of these things are not standard recyclable things. Thanks. Ken, you're up again. You said you weren't going to be talking. All right, about that. Textiles. Is that what I'm talking about? Materials. I couldn't believe the volume that we collected over on Earth Day. It was an enormous pile when we did a litter collection down on the waterfront. So I don't know, it could go straight from goodwill and all the people who can't get their stuff to goodwill or it's too gross, it could go right to a recycling plant, if there was one. I'll toss one out then styrofoam. You know, it's big and bulky, but incredibly light. Boy, I hate throwing away that styrofoam. I don't know if it's possible, but that would be wonderful to get that out of the waste stream. One other thing, sorry. Oh, Calvin, your hand is up. Yeah, maybe like a regional cross docking facility for working with different partners. So, you know, TerraCycle was mentioned, but clothing recycling. So just somewhere where we can, you know, have a bunch of balers to bail this material and then they can pick it up. Because, you know, if you think there's so many different TerraCycle programs around, you know, you go to REI, they have their TerraCycle program. And instead of them having to send a truck for one box or shipping these boxes, you can collect it all in one and ship it to them or partner with someone like that to do this specialty recycling would be nice to see. Thanks, Calvin. To me, that raises the question and Henry kind of touched on it too. You know, it would be rain to be seen whether we would provide these services or try to encourage the private sector to do these things. So the question of, you know, can we be a business incubator? Sort of space. I don't know if space can be adapted. It's a what two or three-story ball building. I don't know if it's easy to compartmentalize that to smaller areas, but smaller businesses might want to try something out on space that they could lease from us. Rick? Following up on that idea, Paul, you could call it an un-maker space. I've got a couple suggestions. Go ahead, Brent. Folks have already mentioned some of the ideas I had, which was like consolidating the Hasway Cepo reuse, potentially innovator space, maker space, looking at take-back programs that are existing or in development. The two that haven't been mentioned yet were potentially having a bottle bill redemption site, and with materials coming potentially heading legislation coming out of the recycling stream and going through the redemption stream, it could be an option for CSWD to have their own redemption center and collect a handling fee for that. Another emerging area for need, I don't believe there's a robust program for this, but electric vehicle batteries, solar panels, things that deal with the waste management side of that reuse opportunities there. Mike, your hands up. You're muted. I know. Why not? Always. Allen Nye and one of my local people and Geno Sullivan, some of you may know, but I'm not quite sure what her background and role is, but we met a week or two ago talking about gravel and getting gravel's waste stream so that instead of having it be serviced by Montreal that there might be a way we could service it locally. Just another idea of I'm not sure what that takes. It sounds like there's a fair amount of effort to try to do something like that, but just, yeah, just that. So, Paul? Yeah, that's in the conference room. Wherever you are. There you are. Okay. Go ahead. So, I mean, I love a lot of all the ideas, but I'm going to be contrary and then suggest that I think the best way, the use of this building is to sell it. It's an old building. It had a fire in it. It's been heavily used. I think it would be best to sell it, take those funds and put it into other capital projects that we'll probably use. I think, you know, getting it into a space that could be used, reused, would require a significant investment. So, but if should a super really great idea come up, I'm all for it, but I really think at least on the table should be serious consideration of selling it. Other ideas or suggestions? Yep. Allen, is that you? No? Well, you got a lot of ideas already smaller to research. Yes. So, I will put together this list of ideas and bring it back to my team and we'll generate probably a few more. One of the things I didn't hear today was, you know, consolidation location for mixed rigid plastics. So the big bulky plastics like turtle sandboxes and little tight houses, things like that, that do have some value that we don't want in the MRF. So really anything that we don't want to go through the materials recycling facility, but might have some value. So I will add that one to this too. And we will certainly, it was what we'll do is we'll start to kind of put these different things in categories and bring that back as it's kind of chunks. So it's, yeah, I will put that together. Rick? Something I'm like, when you bring that all back, something that I think about is the fact that right now it's single stream recycling. I'm very sure that you could never put plastic film single stream recycling with what I understand the effects on the machinery to be. So some, I would appreciate more background on the complexities involved with the fact that we would be depart, presumably departing from single stream recycling, or maybe we prioritize ideas that could be handled through a single stream. So that feels like an ingredient in the conversation. Yeah, I would like to speak for a moment about the idea of the heavier plastics. I once upon a time worked for Tupperware of Canada in their warehouse and manufacturing facility. And as you probably know, that kind of production requires pelletized plastics. So I'm wondering if that might be something that we could do. It would require sorting for color. It would require, I would imagine, some shredding of some sort and some kind of method or production of the pellets themselves, which could be resold to manufacturers of plastic recycled materials. And there are, I'm sure, lots of companies across the United States that use that kind of material. Just a thought might be an expensive thought, but whatever. Panelist for further research. Other suggestions or comments? And once that I had to jump off Paul's comment about potential sale, I would want to have a sense for, you know, the market rate for the property as well as what it might look like to have something that's a value driven sale. So like values not in price, but like along the lines of what are the needs, what are other needs in the region that aren't being served that tie back to sustainability priorities in our mission statement. So just kind of thinking at it from multiple angles, I guess. There'll be plenty of time for further additional ideas. So I'm always concerned, I don't want to cut off conversation too much, but also keep the pace of the meeting going. One last round of any final comments or observations. Again, there'll be time, chances to speak up with ideas or if something pops up offline, certainly send a note to Sarah. So I think with that, we can include this portion of the meeting in discussion and we're ready to move on then to the next item on the agenda, item six, which is an executive session for the purpose of discussing the Flint Averton new property and the Redmond Road properties. Do we have a motion that can be read into the record to enter executive session? I move that the board of commissioners of the Chittenden Solid Waste District go into executive session to discuss contract negotiations with the city of Burlington and real estate negotiations with the town of Williston where premature general public knowledge would clearly place the district, its member municipalities and other public bodies or persons involved at a substantial disadvantage and to permit authorized staff other invited interested parties in the solid waste district attorney to be present for this session. So moved. Seconded. Well done. Thank you. It's been moved and seconded to enter into the executive session. All those in favor please say aye. Any opposed say nay. Any abstentions? We will now move over into executive session using the link that Sarah had sent out I believe this afternoon. Patience sometimes these things between the Williston town office and those of us at home might be a little delay but hang tight please when you're over there. I understood your question. We've got a quorum again here so we have a motion to exit executive session. So moved. Seconds that Burlington. Thank you. It's been moved and seconded that we exit executive session. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed say nay. Any abstentions? We're now back in public session. There was no action required after our executive session. The next item on the agenda is other business. There was a request at the beginning of the meeting to perhaps have an update on the bottle bill. During the meeting I pointed out to Ken that there was a mention in the program updates that referenced the current state of legislative activity on the bottle bill and Ken had indicated that he was satisfied with that and would be happy to not pursue any further questions or discussion under business other business tonight about the bottle bill. So I believe that satisfies him. Ken do you want to hear? We don't see you but speak up if you have a concern. I've lost you. I just explained that you're okay with withdrawing your inquiry about further information about the bottle bill at this time. Yeah if you continue thank you. Thank you. Is there any other business to bring before the board of commissioners tonight? Paul I just had a quick question about green update. We can either talk about an hour I can go ahead. One thing that's that has come up when I've been making my rounds for Green Update is questions about how to deal with hazardous waste and I just wanted to check if staff had any messaging or outreach to the coordinators for how to deal with hazardous waste household hazardous waste or any other hazardous waste found during cleanup on Green Update since our current procedures require an appointment. So just want to see if that make sure that there's some communication there and clarity on what the expectations are for how to dispose of it properly. Jen I think we can work with our team on providing some guidance and and get that out to coordinators. I appreciate that. I know that that can be a little confusing day of when you're trying to manage a bunch of volunteers. Right. Good boy, thank you. If there's nothing else to bring up under other business we'll entertain a motion to adjourn. So move South Burlington. Second Essex. Thank you I've been moved and seconded that we adjourn. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Trust there are no opposed but But if you are, say nay. We are adjourned.