 Good evening. I'd like to call the meeting of the city planning commission to order with The planner, please call the roll mayor van der steen here older person born is excused Ryan sasma Jerry Jones Marilyn Montemire Here David Hoffman here Don's feet on excused excused So we have a quorum Thank you very much. Next please stand and join me in the for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the play of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation Under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Next item on the agenda is the introduction of committee members and staff Dave. You want to start? Mike van der steen mayor and chair Chad Pellichick planning director Steve so close you from the planning department In online Jerry Jones go ahead Marilyn Montemay your city representative Jerry Jones representative and vice chairman very good and Does anybody have a potential conflict of interest with any of the items on the agenda see no conflicts We'll move ahead to the minutes. I'd accept the motion to approve the minutes for the planning commission on from September 29th Second thank you for that motion and supporters. There any discussion on those minutes Okay, then all those in favor of the minutes, please signify by saying aye. Aye Opposed chair votes aye the motion passes Going on items for discussion and possible action Item 3.1 is a conditional use and variance application By Bethany reform church to install a new electronic reader board monument sign at 1315 Washington Avenue Steve Thanks, mayor Jason day is here representing Bethany reform church and was there someone on the line as well? Okay, all right Sounds good. So what we're taking a look at is Bethany Church is located at 1315 Washington Avenue. So this is just south of the South High School football field and track and they currently have an existing manual reader board. It's approximately 36 square feet the church was interested in having the ability to Install a new electronic reader board message message center so to update their sign The sign itself is approximately about 62 square feet in its overall size It's seven and a half feet tall and eight feet wide the actual signage is about 48 square feet with about 23 square feet for the reader board and 24 or I'm sorry 23 square feet for the Bethany portion and 24 square feet for the electronic reader board portion The sign would be staying in the same location where they have power and things like that already there So it's 12 feet from the property line and it would remain and the new electronic message center will allow Bethany to post Church service days times other events taking place at the church scripture Passages or messages and will be safer for employees. You can easily change the message from the office. There is a variance asking for the 62 square foot monument sign and the other than that staff was recommending approval of the new sign as Requested subject to the conditions so I can answer any questions in the applicants here. Thank you for that report Steve Did you want to add anything to Steve's report? No, I mean Steve really hit the nail on the head here I mean, we've been talking about replacing our sign for for quite a while and we finally have the funds to do it And instead of sticking that money in upgrading the sign we have and we're gonna replace the sign new technology The Bethany church portion will be you know backlit from the inside and then obviously adding the reader board to that so Location staying the same set back off the road staying the same And you know just looking to upgrade the sign Good. Thank you very much. I think those are pushed through letters, right a little depth even They'll actually be raised letters and then The light will kind of backwash on to the white panel to illuminate the Bethany church. So it's a it's an attractive sign Commissioners any other questions or Emotion Second thank you for that motion and support is one last call for any discussion on this item Seeing none all those in favor roll call. Okay, go ahead and mayor van der steen. Hi Ryan sasma Jerry Jones Hi Marilyn Montemire Hi David Hoffman I all eyes motion passes. Thank you very much. Thanks everyone project Item 3.2 is a conditional use application by the Sheboygan County Warming Center to operate a warming center at St. Cyril and the Thodias Church located at 822 New Jersey Avenue Steve all right. Thanks mayor Rich gulag is here as well as Judy. I'm not sure what Judy's last name is Thank you what we're taking a look at is the Sheboygan County Warming Center is proposing to operate the Warming Center at St. Cyril Methodius Church located at 822 New Jersey Avenue The Warming Center has operated for four years at the Salvation Army facility and during that time the number of guests has varied from 1 to 25 Now the Warming Center is looking at St. Cyril and the purpose of the County Warming Center is to provide a safe temporary overnight shelter for adults who may be homeless because of emergencies of any kind including transients who would be housed on an overnight basis pending availability and the goal is to provide a warm place to stay overnight during Sheboygan's cold winter nights The Warming Center is operated by a number of county inter-denominational churches working together during the months of January and February The request is to permit the Warming Center center to operate yearly from October 15th to April 15th and to permit a maximum of 40 guests and approximately 2 to 10 warming staff In terms of how the volunteer staff and guest daily schedules occur From about 6 p.m. to 10 p.m. There are about three to four people who open set up welcome guests and serve hot meals to guests Guests arrive between 7 p.m. And 9 p.m. After 9 p.m. Guests may only gain admittance with the police referral Guests leaving after signing in may not re-enter if they leave and guests are offered a warm meal shortly after 7 p.m Some bring food while there's have food provided by the Warming Center from 10 p.m. To 3 a.m. And from 3 a.m. To 8 a.m. There are two staff people who remain in Awake and alert in order to help with any situations that might arise Around 6 15 a.m. The guests are awakened and a simple light continental breakfast is provided included coffee milk juice fruit oatmeal Staff helps ensure the guests leave by 7 30 staff cleans up as necessary and exit by 8 p.m. Or 8 a.m. Sorry Plant Commission may want to have the applicant just address how the Warming Center at center will interact with church activities And if the Warming Center is proposing any type of signage directing guests to the Warming Center If so what type of signage and where is it located? Other than that it's just the Plant Commission should be aware that this is a conditional use permit that is for temporary On a yearly basis from that October to April deadline our dates So staff was recommending approval and I can answer any questions and the applicants are here as well Thank you for that report Steve mr. Gullig is there anything you like to add to the report? Just that you know we've the Sheboygan County Warming Center in St. Cyril Methodius Parish have entered into a memorandum of understanding that laid out all the all the details of our relationship and We're looking forward to a wonderful Opening of the season this year so that we can help those within our community that are in need Steve had asked about any additional signing that Signage you'd have to direct people to the Warming Center. We are looking at adding a temp It would be a temporary sign that would be displayed by the entrance by the elevator entrance That would be probably no more than like an 11 by 17 sheet of paper It would you know something like that would say Warming Center entrance that would you know kind of bring people into there We're not planning on putting any Signage out near the street or anything like that. This would just be between the church and the old school building that would Direct people direct the guests to the Warming Center In about last season. What was your average census that you had? evening basis I think Throughout the season last year. We served 42 individual guests over the period The range of stay for the guests was anywhere from one to 59 days Our average number of guests per night was 11 and Again, it was just just for adults not not families And there are total last year of 69 volunteers that that helped with the Warming Center Okay, thank you commissioners David hi rich Do you anticipate needing more help with the Sanitation for the virus and all that good stuff We're working with the church who has a sanitation unit and we're going to be working with them And in fact we're we're in talks to have them do the sanitation in the morning So that it's done to their satisfaction and everything the the Warming Center staff will clean the tables with with sanitizing liquids and wipe it down but they have the the parish has a It's kind of like a fogging machine that they will use to fog some of the The common areas so we are working in conjunction with the With the parish to ensure that the the area is sanitized after we're done. We anticipate working we're working with The public health is showing county public health to establish some guidelines for guests and volunteers that come in as you know whether whether they're we're going to be Asking them about some questions and that recommendations from from the CDC will take temperatures and things like that as well So great. Thank you. Yeah So I just want to say that it it's nice that you guys are having able to find a location We've talked about a number of locations over the last few months and when this one You know came to to be it was originally thought that it was going to be maybe the school but I guess it works well in the basement of the church and we've been there with the Applicant in the fire department in the building inspection department and everything seems like it can work So we're happy that you have a home and the home is still somewhere in the downtown to serve the need That's in this area. So yes, that was one of the Important things for us is that it was in the in the downtown area in close proximity to where our guests will be Well, thank you for everything that you're doing we really appreciate it Commissioners accept the motion Second, thank you for that motion and support That motion is before us. Is there any other discussion? See none with the planner, please call the roll mayor van der steen. I Ryan sasma Jerry Jones Marilyn Montemire. I am good work. Good work. Dave Hoffman. I all eyes motion passes Thanks again for the good work and good luck with this location yep Item 3.3 is a conditional use and variance application By Corey Franklin to operate a u-haul from arts barbecue located at 23 29 South Business Drive Steve before we begin. Is there anybody online that's representing this one? Yes Can you please state your name? Welcome Corey Steve please go ahead. All right, so Corey Franklin has been here before and he operates arts barbecue at 23 29 South Business Drive and he is requesting to Operate a u-haul business from the same site Outdoor display use is a conditional use permit. So Mr. Franklin indicates that he's planning on having no more than eight u-haul trucks That there's a decent amount of parking on the site that he's planning to have one part-time employee and Is decided to go with a u-haul for supplemental income during this time? That staff had received some information that the u-haul was operating and then touch base with mr. Franklin to let him know that the conditional use permit was required a Couple of comments with regards to the proposed use One of the main concerns is just with the total number of u-haul trucks and trailers that will be located at the site South Business Drive is obviously a very visible and want to make sure that it's maintained Well, Jim Theodore off is the property owner and has Written a letter requesting that no u-haul items be permitted on the south parking lot adjacent to his KFC Restaurant that request that no parking on the south side of lot which is closest to KFC drive-through window There's a curb stop at the northeast corner of the parking lot that looks like it Has been removed at some point in time and is allowing access basically from this parking lot to the vacant BMO Harris property and so staff will be recommending that that curb stop be Reinstalled so that no access can take place on to their property You can see with the trailers in the pictures that there's a trailer and a larger U-haul truck that is extending beyond that curb stop over into the neighboring property so there's going to be conditions that require that all of the equipment remain on the Arts barbecue site that nothing's crossing property lines The gates on the dumpster enclosure have been removed and the dumpsters outside So that's going to need to be the gates are going to need to be reinstalled and the dumpster Screened and enclosed in that dumpster enclosure Let's see I Think one question that we might want to ask a little bit is just with regards to the art barbecue I think there was a tent where there was some music in and eating and things like that We might just like to hear what he was think or what Corey was doing with that And then there'll be conditions of approval recommending that What only one U-haul a piece of equipment baby may be located in the front of the property front of building to the street? All other U-haul vehicles trailers equipment should be permitted on the north and north side yard and the east rear yard All vehicles shall be located on the arts barbecue and U-haul private property the 2329 South Business Drive and none of the acumen equipment shall cross any property lines and That there should be no access permitted on to the neighboring properties where the applicant shall reinstall the curb stops at that Northeast corner to prevent access to or from the former BMO Harris property to the north and then the last item Plan Commission may want to discuss with mr. Franklin is staff was going to be Recommending a maximum of 15 pieces of equipment on the site I don't know what mr. Franklin was thinking there could be more there could be less But that was something that the plan Commission may want to include as far as conditions of approval Other than that staff was recommending approval of the proposal subject to the conditions before you and I can answer any Questions in the applicants online Thank you very much Steve mr. Franklin. Do you have any problems with any of those conditions that Steve outline? Yeah, I don't think I would have any more than 15 by far trucks or pieces of equipment period It's only because I would need a supplemental income just because of this hard time And as far as the tents and everything goes with with bands and stuff that We worked out In the neighbors they used to sit outside and And hear the music it wasn't really loud But you know they could hear the music and they used to call me like these you guys take a break You know neighbors really like you know blues music and they use to sit outside You know they call me and tell me thank you. It was pretty nice for the community. I felt Okay, very good commissioners any other discussion or questions or emotion Second thank you for that motion and support that items be before us. Is there any other discussion? Seeing none with the planner, please call the roll mayor van der steen. Hi, ryan sasma. Hi, jerry jones Hi, maryland montemire Hi, david hoffman. Hi all eyes Motion passes. Good luck. Mr. Franklin. Thanks for joining us Hope I hope I don't need it You're welcome. Yep. Bye. Bye now We should say that our next meeting is planned for october 27th And jerry need a motion Move to adjourn Second. Thank you for that motion and support all those in favor of adjournment. Please signify by saying aye Aye chair votes. Aye opposed opposed Motion passes. Thank you very much everybody You