 It's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit. It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Mr. Mako. What's going on? None, none. My dad walk on. We down here in Atlanta, man. Yes, sir. Say, man, it's going down, man. You did. Say, man, we got the best guests in Atlanta. Stop playing, man. Stop. Man, Michael Montana. Michael Montana is in the building. Yes, sir. What's going on? I'm blessed, bro. How you doing? Man, you here now? Yep. You made it. I just got to say this. I love that name, Mako. Thank you. Where do you get it from? My real name is Mako. So. NYCHAEL. So you came up with the name Mako? Yeah, I came up with it. I broke it down. I broke it down, because I was trying to keep it like me. You know what I'm saying? So we didn't want to go like, I had Ken was just called Swagg, Swagglerite J. Michael Swagglerite. We were coming up with new names, you know what I'm saying? But then I want to keep it more of me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, your name is important. You know what I'm saying? It's so important. Yeah, and then a little about me. You know what I'm saying? So I want to stick with, you know, the culture, you know what I'm saying? NYKO. But we just added another K, you know what I'm saying? But it's NYKO. You know what I'm saying? We know the Montana, right? Yeah. We already know. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's been a long time, but it's just like, it's like a ring. Because you know, I don't want to look too more into what Montana means. So I just want you to, I want the people to think of it like, I want, I want to ring to you. It's art. I want you to think of it like art. Don't be too deep in anything like Montana. Is he trying to like, they got on me for a little bit, a little bit about there. Like, you dope. Like, no, bro. It's like, I want you to pay attention to what like, the scene, the sound of it, Michael Montana. Like you got to spring to it. So that's what I wanted to keep in mind. I wanted to see that work. Can they repeat that a lot? Can they, you know what I'm saying? I played with that name for a little bit. When was that name created? How old were you? I believe I pop like in old nine. I don't know. I can't remember how old I was, but it popped like in old nine. When it was, when it was, you remember that time? Yeah. It was down nine, 10. Is that when you started? 11. Oh, okay. I pop like, what, 13, 2000, 13, 2014. I took your serious like, what, 2013? 2012, shit like that. Y'all been together a long time. You keep looking back like, confirmation. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's good that you have people around you. No, no, no, they both get down. You know that. Mm-hmm. So they both been acting a fool in that studio, man. It's a problem. Yeah, it definitely is. Yeah. So how is it, man? It's over, it's over saturated. Some good, some bad. We got Trash in Dallas, man. We got Trash in Houston. We got some Trash in San Antonio. But do y'all have Trash in Atlanta? Everything good. He's a hun. So yeah, we got greats now. Don't get it twisted. Yeah, I feel like Trash is something that, you know what I'm saying, that's what it is. Yeah. Trash. Now when I say that, I'm talking about lyrically, they not gonna make it. Like, but they keep throwing songs at you. And I know you, Yeah, I mean, yeah. Hey, my boy like, I don't know about that. No, no, no, no, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm just trying to figure out how I go because everywhere you go, you got a lot of, you got a lot of rappers down. Everybody want a rapper on this. It's saturated. Everybody, okay. But I get it. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, and this might just be, but how I talk about, I talk with experience. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I see. Yeah. And due to the fact that I know, like I was a Trash rapper. Whoa. Like I knew my words didn't match. I knew I was cursing too much. Okay. Because I couldn't, you know, when you curse a lot, you don't, you really don't, you don't have more, you don't have more words. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You're not reading enough books. You're not reading enough books. You know what I'm saying? You're not understanding your. You gotta push your brain, yeah. That's exactly how I feel about, you know, cursing. Well, why did you feel when I was cursing? You know, I'm ready. I just liked to curse. Sometimes some people are. I don't do it no more. It's been years and I stopped playing. Sometimes some people are part of their environment as well. Some people can be as smart as whip, but because of how they were raising what they're around, is the reason why they do it. Okay. Oh, you analyze me. Now you, now you a psychotherapist or something around this time. I ain't heard you saying I'm not cursing. I don't know more, but I do. I can. I'm good at it. He was. Let me tell you. I'm one of the best to do it. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I guess we know. But so then on top of that, due to the fact that you are the best to do it. So that means in due time, the best to do it, it might, your next artist might come out of San Antonio. Like, I have grown, I have grew to learn like, people don't see the like, they're not real spiritual thinkers like us like that. So they ain't gonna really be critiquing theyself. Like a lot of people, you would think that they are critiquing theyself like. They won't. They won't. So that's where I'm not against trash. I'm not against, I'm not against not saying it don't exist, but I'm not against people who trying to figure it out. That's good. You saying people evolve and so you like, okay trash is a little heavy for them. They just trying to learn. Hey man. Trying to see who they are. Yeah. Hey man. And he say, I was trashed. That's what tripped me out when you said that I see what angle you come from. Because now they can't do nothing with me. Already. You feel me? Oh yeah. I definitely feel you. But that's where growth come from. You have to go up and you have to go down and up and to get to that point where you like, and even then there's always more growth. Yeah. It don't stop. It only stop if you stop. So like the artists is in Atlanta, we dope. Artists is across the globe. Like y'all really need to go listen to artists overseas. I've been hearing that. I got a lot of people that have been coming on my platform saying they get not only, they get loops from overseas. They get the producers get loops from overseas. I went platinum overseas with an artist that was from over. I went platinum over there. So I get where you coming from with that. But hey, Atlanta's a problem. I don't, y'all niggas just wild and out of here. Yeah. We gotta keep it going. You know what I'm saying? But then again. They say y'all a new Hollywood. They mean to cut you off. But they act like y'all got it. Tile up hair, y'all got some stuff going on down here. This shit lit. You come down here and get your light cut on quick. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You from any state, any city, you come down here and get your lights cut on quick. Yeah. But it's gonna either tell you who you are, it's gonna either make or break you too. You gotta be ready for that. You see what I'm saying? You can't come down here like, like you just gonna do something if you ain't got nothing. We'll be excited about Texas too though. Yeah. I mean, we got some men. Come on, we got that heat over there. I mean, you know, but that's the South. Now, you know, if I, I'm a real, I messed up cause I go for the South. I ain't gonna lie to you. But you know what? I find hard for the Migos, you, anybody that's because of the way we talk and being in the South, I don't play about us. I'm real serious about, you can't say nothing about us. You can't say mumble rock, none of that stuff to me. You see what I said? You see what I said? You see what I said? But let me ask you a question. You being in Atlanta, cause I access to a lot of people in Texas. But do you think it's true that when you're starting off and you're to build your business that you have to, out of all the cities that you have to go through to build, Texas should be one of your number ones? Why? I mean, it's just like that we connect, we connected to them. They're like, they're like brothers and sisters. Like they just, they have a big state just like we are. You know what I'm saying? Like you, you got to visit Texas. That you leave Texas, you got to go to New York. Wow. You got to go to Atlanta. Yeah. You got to go to these big places because it places like y'all sitting in them higher places like they can clear, all right, cool. You got to go to California, bro. You got to go there. Then once you hit these big states, okay, then you're going to start following up on Ohio. You're going to start Memphis. You're going to start, it all breaks out, but you leave Atlanta, you're going to go to New York, Kelly or Texas. Let me ask you this. Let's get to the music, man. For me. So when you first came out, what do you think? Cause you say you held back for a minute. They know to owe you. They don't know to new you. What's the difference? Oh, my growth. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's a whole lot. I'm very proud of myself like due to the fact of like coming up under the, how can you say it? I don't like saying it, but I dealt with it. Like the one hit wonders like that, that, that, that. Those like the downfalls of the industry. Like my buddies tell you, I ain't, I ain't think I'm going, I ain't think you're going to do that. I'm just honestly, like, I didn't, oh, bro, we're going to be, we're going to rap every day. Like, no, we're playing bad. Whatever we were doing then, we still have, we still like, whether you grown or not, but we still have, have like key in us. Like, you know what I'm saying? No, I told him to go to Six Flags or we might go to like on our downtown golf cart and all those, you know what I'm saying? Just doing normal stuff or just to keep me sane. You know what I'm saying? The industry will drain you. Like, no, bro, it ain't that. I had one song and y'all ain't hear the rest of the music, but it was just that I had gone inside of a contract, bro. That's why y'all didn't, you know what I'm saying? It ain't y'all been to know that it's all good. So I, and I accepted it. So it was like, from this day forward, they're going to see a more humble, respectable, you know what I'm saying? Face. Like, you know what I'm saying? Now you're going to be able to say, Michael, he look like this. He got this song. You do this. He from this area. Instead of just saying, who? Oh, really? Do it, boy or not? No. So now the executives and people who I never burned Bridges with or my colleagues or Cameraman's, I try to keep better relationships now. You know what I'm saying? Understand where they're coming from. Their time that they're taking out. So I'm asking you shit, bro. What you know what I'm saying? I don't want it for free. What you going to take? What you going to charge me? And don't hit me with the, oh, bro, I'm fucking with you. Hit me with the honest. Let's do this. I like the humility and the honesty. Let me ask you this. Like the little, say, check it out. I come at you like this. We had a song called My Dougie in Dallas. And then they took it up to California and they did it a different way. And they took the song and they reinvented it too. And it almost seems as if it came from there. You know what I mean? So have anybody ever came at you, took something that you created and redone it and done something with it and made it look to as if it wasn't yours? So you never had nobody to steal anything from you, come at you in a different way. Cause this is a large market, man. I had another home guy just got from with Exo earlier. She said Big Sean took her song and I looked at her song way long time ago. And guess what? It was exact same damn song. And the video was done in a football field. The hers was just low budget cause she's not a known artist. I'm saying is Cardi B just came out with that song, right? And it's a song out. I ain't gonna, so I'm been coming across my desk lately about a certain song. It been coming across my desk. I'm like, last night it hit me again cause somebody in a higher place had hit me. I'm gonna take it further. He said I'm gonna take this further and see is it true? I said, okay, cool. We'll talk, all right, cool. Let me know that now. Till that happened, I'm better come back to you, tell you like, yeah, yo, that shit happened to me. The honest to God, true. Lil Uzi first, salute to him. Salute to him and his team. And you know what I'm saying? And that whole situation because for the people who didn't know do it or wasn't familiar with do it, like the younger generation who look up to Uzi who listen to Uzi, like he just read like, like, you know how God work? You know, he just put it on somebody else's heart. Like, you know what I'm saying? Bring it out. Like he worked, the way that you probably wouldn't even imagine. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? So picking up for the job. You just gotta be appreciative for every little thing you get. And then when he did that, I ain't gonna lie, like he sparked more and like he sparked it like, oh, shit. What the hell he was at when this song came out? And when he told me, I'm like, for real? My spirit and like, bro, you can lose the, like you can lose the love for the game. It's true. Wow. Like, especially when you have honest people around you, supportive people around you to keep your head in the mental space. And it's just you just gotta always stay in the mental space. Like, that's gonna, at the end of the day, what we mean, bro, it's gonna crown my mind. I'm like, fuck this round shit. I don't deal with it. I don't wanna record, I don't wanna listen. Like, I don't wanna talk to my lawyers because it's too much. And it's like, it comes with it. So it's like, make so much of creative sound and so much of creative music to it, but if they do do it, then just look at it like you're iconic. Like, I want them to do it, bro. Like, it's cool. I want you to go. That's why I do it for it. I don't, if I didn't want you to know it, bro, I wouldn't be rapping. You know, you wouldn't ever see it if I'm bringing outside my house or if I don't post it. I wanted you to see it. So I wanted like, I know you ain't gonna have these bills. So if I hit these bills, if I hit that shit somewhere, I'm gonna be like, bro, you know. How long did it take you to discover yourself, to discover who you are in the music industry and your style, all of that? All right. Honestly, it just started happening. I'm feeling that. I seen you on that stage, man. It just happened like, I keep seeing that. I think God brought my spirit. Like, I got shot. He didn't break it. No, he ain't like that. Like, I guess I ain't see myself. You know what I'm saying? And when I thought I was seeing myself, I was like, I don't know how about that. And when I thought I was seeing myself in a certain light, he just reminded me like, okay, cool. You tripping. So I'm gonna go ahead and let something happen to you. It ain't gonna, it's gonna mentally exorcise you. It's gonna slow you down. I'm like, what? Boom, it already done happened. I ain't got shot. So now, you know, some people are like, you'll pray for me. I didn't go through the mental like, I was gonna go through the mental breakdown. I was like, don't worry about it. Wow. So that's how I found myself in 2019. Like, to like, not find myself to start treating other people negative or start like trying to step on people. It just showed me like, move a certain kind of way. So I don't have to disrespect. I just gonna disconnect myself. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So quarantine really built me. Like, it really made me feel like, because I thought I had something going. I thought I had, you know what I'm saying? I thought I was on the road. I thought, you know what I'm saying? This is some shit that you know people, bro. You gon' tell yourself something in your head. You gon' believe it. I'm looking around, man. Damn. I'm tired of hand-do-it, too. I'm tired of posting it. I ain't tired of posting it, but it's like, if I don't put out what I've been working on, then, you know what I'm saying? I'm scared of, could do to the fact of like, how I've been treated. Defaults want something that's bigger than do it. They want like, for real, man. Man, I talked to a lot of artists that can't, you know, get past that song, that one song, or that one situation, and that, and it was a mental breakdown to where I know they're still going through trying to figure it out right now. If something was done to them, they can get past it, and it's a block right there. I'm telling you, the guy that we talked to, I ain't gon' mention his name, but it happened down here. Somebody got pushed in the background so far in their career, and they felt like it was caused by somebody that was bigger than them, and when the song came out, bam, it didn't work out the way they thought it did, and it messed that boy's head up. It's mental. Did you hear what I just said? They curse, I know you love it. It's mental. But you know, in a lot of different ways, what God has for you is for you, but at the same time, you have, some people want something so bad to keep pushing, pushing, pushing, and they don't realize that, why did not get anywhere, because you have another path you need to be on. Great. You understand what I mean? People have not accepted their destiny. They're pushing because they want this so bad, but God is showing them somewhere that they need to go, and they will actually be more profitable if they went that way. Not only that, if you fill your spirit with negativity, it's not gonna benefit you anything. And a lot of people be watching other people and hating so much and wondering why they can't get anywhere themselves. They turn around and blame everybody else for where they are in life and not hold themselves accountable. And the moment that they can't hold themselves accountable, they can realize, it's just like when, I love what we do because I meet so many great people and I hear so many stories. And when people talk about, I have grown men who say, well, the reason why I ended up in prison or I was fighting all the time as a kid growing up, I didn't have my father in my life. And I didn't realize that the reason why I lashed out is because he wasn't there. Nobody, not even my mom knew that that's the reason why. As I got older, I realized that's the reason why I end up in prison. I end up killing somebody, I end up doing this. But sometimes we have to go through things to look back on our life to say, I'm past that. I need to break this trend because a lot of times it's my daddy or my mama went through the same thing and you're not realizing that- It's the curse. It's the curse. People have to put in their head, I'm not gonna let my children be me. I have to break this curse right now. You see what I mean? I'm gonna love me or I'm gonna love my kids. Some people overdo it now. Yeah, but you got to, but that's what I'm saying. And that was a great- Balance. That was a great, that was a great- Breakdown right now. That was a great break down because that's what we dwell on. That's what I pound on. I was that person, that's what I'm telling you, I was that person. It's crazy just to say that because my dad, my dad did. My mom, my mom did. I didn't get that, but that just, there's us being human and it's okay to be emotional. But after you've done being emotional, you have to see like, okay, cool, but I have to find a direction because we can all be on the same street, bro. You might see somebody walking down the street. You might see a straight cat down the street. You might see a car with no lights on coming down the street, but bro, why you want your car? Drive your car. Pay attention to your car. My old granddaddy told me, you can't catch no fish watching my line. You feel me. You know what I'm talking about? I get it, man. You feel me. So that's like, I was that person and that's why I feel like I can express myself. Nobody, when you see me on that stage and I'm trying to- That energy, that energy. That's my, that's me rejoicing. Like that's me just like just giving thanks. That's me just being in my zone. That's just me, it's just everything just me at that point. It's about myself, me being happy. I really can't explain it because it's like, why would I be? I spent so much time being angry with my daddy to the point like my life was passing. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Have you forgiven him? Forget him. Yes, sir. Do y'all have a relationship? Is he still alive? Relationship. That's good. It's a relationship that I need from here on till God come get me. Wow, and that's dope. Cause I, amen. And your mom too? Got a value. Same way. Got a value. Let me ask you this, man. And we're gonna go all the way back. How did you and K-Camp and all that? That's the first start of the legacy, right? Um, yeah, I mean I was already grinding. You know what I'm saying? Cut with me. You know what I'm saying? Y'all young, y'all young boys, man. Y'all spending night in the studio. Yeah, young boy. Needed to, he was every step, bro. From the day I started. Really, he was rapping first. Then you know what I'm saying? I'm about to get you. You gonna be back over here today. Stop playing, man. Okay, we can't even breathe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I didn't plan it, but I don't want to miss out on something. You can do it? Hell yeah. Okay, cause I just got the other guy. If you wasn't awake. We have two more out there. Two more, okay. When you listen to the music, you're gonna be... Man, I just love the fact of how y'all gram and y'all hunger for it, man. And really it's something that helps. It's helping the people around you. The more music you making, the way that you move, the more people you're helping your family. You're helping people to see things clear through these mics, through your story. That's what it's all about. Iron, chocolate, iron. Exactly, man. If it's great food, I'll mind giving it to everybody. Yeah. It's great, it's fresh, fresh. You need it, I need it, we all need it. Take it. If it's bad, we don't feed each other that. How do you, so top three artists of all time did or lied? Any genre. I asked this question they ever get. Male or female? Top three. Number one. Future. Number two. I like Future. Number three. Two pop. Outkends. Outkends, that's the thing. He just tied it. He's the... Yeah, he just tied it with the other guy getting them back to back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was quick. Because normally people have to be... It's talented. Man, I'll cast dope, man. I love I'll cast. They are. I love Andre, sorry, not I'll cast. I love Andre. Whoa, whoa, whoa! You can't go without him. I love Andre. I gotta break it down. Cause Andre, cause Andre feeding your spirit. I like his style. I like everything about him. He feeding our spirit. But Future, man. He feeding the spirit. I didn't know how to make a hit. Well, y'all better stop playing. You better get your stuff together if you're gonna come behind him, too. Who would you like to work with in the industry that you haven't? Right, Wave. Okay. There's somebody else who I said, bro, there's a lot of people I listen to. Like, I'm gonna work with like DJ Haddon. Okay. He's a gospel singer. I know. Yeah, DJ Haddon. Dope. I love music, bro. Have you ever done anything gospel before? No. But you can go there. You know, you can do it. I can go there. So... I just don't wanna play with a guy like that. I can go there, though. I don't think it's playing with God. No. Bro, it's so dope how you can transcend things that people got in their natural mind. My daughter taught me this. She don't like the way certain things are cultureized or put in a set standard. You gotta be free, man. We gotta stop acting as if these little standards that people put in a place, like, yeah, you say, well, you know, I don't wanna play with God. Is it really playing with God? Do you love God? It's the art, then. You see what I'm saying? So I appreciate the question. No, yeah, I appreciate the question. Explain what you mean. Yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate the question. Okay. I'm very passionate, as you can see. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, once I give it my time and give it my space or whatever it is I'm doing with it, like, I wanna be true to it. And like I told God before I even asked him to start, before I gave him my life, you know what I'm saying? Ask him, could he protect me or whatever? Like, you know, you gotta really do that, you know what I'm saying? I had to really know. You can't, it's like, it can go seven different ways with this, what I'm finna say. Go ahead. It's like, you don't really have to, like, I know God, cause what I learned, not when nobody taught me, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, dope. And I try to, so now I know it's Yahweh Messiah, so I know it get deeper, you know what I'm saying? So this is like, but any time you deal with God, a life period, you gotta have balance. So this is why I'm finna, and I'm trying to understand the, like, okay God, I'm with it, you know what I'm saying? Like, before I even started saying, yeah God, but I had to honestly tell him I'm not, I'm fucked up, and he, I ain't, I don't know. But he knows everybody. I was your own son, I didn't know if he knew that. I was your own son, I didn't know if he knew that or not. You know what I'm saying? God is forgiving God, that's the one person that I know. But you know what, what really happened? I ain't know that though. People paint this picture of what you see in your imagery of who God is and it be wrong. You see what I'm saying? You can't go by what they say, you gotta go by what he say. So you don't have to worry about his relationship, her relationship, hers, hers is between you and God. You got nothing to do with nobody else. I do with the baby. So you don't have to worry about that. I do something like what baby did, that's hard. That's hard. That's hard. Because you can help people where you at. It don't matter, man. See, that's what I was going to say. Some people can't reach people, you can reach. So whatever it takes, if you did a song with D-Drick Halley or whoever, whoever you done it with, it's gonna come off right. Because he know my heart period. Exactly, one thing I love about entertainers is the fact that y'all have such a wide platform that you affect through your music, through your mic. And tomorrow is never promised. So if you can come out with something that can help someone, educate them, I mean turn them from going down the wrong path. Reach the people. Because they look at you and they can see themselves. They look for a voice. They look for a voice. And when they believe in you and they listen to you and you say something positive, you could change a life. You know what I mean? I'm with that. I'm with that. I'm with that. Okay, y'all just made me feel different. That's all, man, we just saying, man, we just vibing. That's what we are for. And I appreciate that salute. That's what we use this platform for. We use this platform to help others. When you talk about your relationship with your father and how you overcame it and how you have a great relationship now, you have some people right now who can't even do that. They don't even care if their father passed away tomorrow. They'll be like, I wouldn't even look at his grave. And all I can do is pray for them because it's gonna hurt them 20 years from now. It's gonna hurt them. Or their kids. Right, it's gonna hurt them. It's not hurting their father, father's already dead and gone. But what I'm saying is that their kids can turn around and do the same thing to them and they're wondering, why are you acting like that? But still you gotta understand the general life. Generational curse. Yeah. Yeah. Hey man, boss talk 101 man, it's going down man. Hey, we doing it, it's going in. Hey man, my boy man Michael Montan was in the building. Yes sir. Say man, so you coming to see me in Texas, I don't even know that man. And we coming back to Atlanta, it's a family affair, it's going down man. This ain't the last time man. It's only the first time. You know what I'm talking about? More definitely. More definitely. So man, you know it. You locked in now. Yeah, family man, we love you bro. What would you say to that young brother that was working with K-Count back in the days? I'm going to ask you that. What would you say to him to tell him to get ready for the ride that y'all was headed for as far as what he's about to go through? What he's about to face? Tresh yourself. Okay. Tresh your instinct. You know what I'm saying? Don't be in a rush. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And enjoy the music bro. Enjoy it. Enjoy it being, enjoy the moment. Yeah, enjoy the moment bro. That's it. I take it too, I take it too like, I take it to the heart, you know? Yeah, yeah. And I understand because other people, they come in as artists and their parents don't talk to them. Like you got to be, everybody household ain't like yours. So if you coming into it, and they like, they already know him but it ain't they business to tell you like, yeah, we got a lawyer. Yup, we got published. Yup, so when this song go out, he's going to get percentage like, Michael just thinking he just can come here and just make a song and just throw it out. You know what I'm saying? Everybody be prepared. But I don't read it now. And I like that because a lot of people don't be prepared, they don't know. And then once you go through something, see that what don't kill you make it stronger, right? And then they want to bear relations. So that's when you can. And change the networking. I just say, help the next young brother that everybody be going through it, man. Don't leave him hanging. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to, bro. If you didn't have to. That's going to help you. If you can help. No, no, no. A lot of people didn't tell you or couldn't reach you but it's that person that you probably can reach. I'm just saying spend that information out there. No matter what. Do the interviews, man. Come out here and let people know how, how things change for you. How you was able to reinvent and all that good stuff. You know what I'm saying? It feels first beard, bro. Yeah, yeah. Just show love. You have to always show love. There's times in life when you feel that negative vibe coming over you. Everybody go through it. And sometimes for me personally, it could be nothing even happened that was bad. All of a sudden I'd start feeling that negative vibe. And I know what it is. And I'm saying, you know what devil? You're not going to win today. And I just, you know, you have to change your thinking because everything starts here before you act everything out. Dang, that's real. So you got to recognize it at that point and say you're not going to mess my day up. Change your thinking and share positivity. Yes, ma'am. Yes. Hey, man, thank you, man. Thank you. Hey, man, we can't wait to do it again, right? Yeah. That's a great interview, man. I'm loving it, man. I love the vibe, bro. Like, we just have a real talk. That's how we can do it. I see that. We ain't in all that other stuff. I see that. It's real talk. And I'm going to keep it that way too. We ain't don't know, hey, we trying to find out. We just talking. We just happy to be, you know, in the presence of you, we want to sit down and kick it with you. Whatever you let out, you let out. Because we've had people who come on here and they're letting out negativity. But by the time we were done with them, they turned that negative conversation into something positive. Because I always try to show everybody there's a positive way. When you think that this person is hating, and that person's hating, that person's trying to hold you down, I was like, no, you got to change your thinking. Stop trying to be negative towards everybody else. It's how you perceive. Anything that somebody do to you is how you perceive it. How you take it? That person might not even mean it in a negative way. But because you perceive it as negative. But he might mean it in a negative way as well. But guess what? You know what I'm saying? But whatever. If you don't dwell on it, you can always think it's positive. Even if it is negative. Your spirit be ready for it. Yeah. Exactly. Like this is the game now. Like this is what me and my team own, like from day four, like, or what they own individually by themselves. Like, but this is a mental game. It definitely is. In this second quarter of life right now, bro, it's all mental. Definitely. Hey, man, thank you, man. Thank you, man. Hey, man, we love you, bro. Love you too, man. Man, listen, Michael Montana is going down, man. I done met you. Yes. Going down when you come D-town and be like, yeah, you got to go here, here, here, and here. You did. He's going down. I'll get my D, D, D, D, D, Dallas swag. I'm getting out of that going on. Oh, really, man? Check it, man. I stayed out there before, though. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to see you, my daddy. I'd have brought you right on through D. But you were younger then. Yeah, anyway, I remember like, how they marked, man. That market is there. I went rapping then, though, but that's what I'm saying. We about to get to it. Say, man, check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.