 maybe reasons what's collectivism, maybe reason is not necessarily just, you know, individualism is rights, collectivism is wrong, maybe this is just the natural state of being. No, no, no, no, no. The fact that something exists doesn't make it right, doesn't make it just, doesn't make it good. Indeed, most of human existence we have lived in political and cultural, what's the technical term, I think it's shitholes, really, really bad places that human beings shouldn't live. And you could say, you could sit in the ninth century in Britain and say, pfft, this is life, can't expect anything better than this, and indeed everybody did.