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I am saying nothing but success for the kid in Cleveland They actually run good comps got concepts for his skill set instead of just putting him in horrible situations and One of the examples that he sent me was in the game last year when we played the Bears And a pass intended for Perryman got tipped and picked but the pass was in between two Bears defenders it was a low pass and Perryman was falling for the ball, but the pass got tipped up and then it got picked. It was just Yeah Wasn't the best decision, but I could have been worse. Well, they actually couldn't be worse. I think that was a pick six But anyway Was it really Perryman's fault for not developing or wasn't the coaching staff for action for not actually developing him like other receivers? well They actually did develop him like other receivers because All the other receivers that they draft the young guys They do the same thing with they do the same thing every single time Chris Moore is slowly becoming an exception He's slowly becoming an exception Tori Smith. He lucked out He lucked out. He ended up having a step up by default Because what the Ravens do again, and we talked about it plenty of times before but love talking about it They'll they'll draft wide receivers. They'll draft them and whatever around Not really first too much recently But I think for shot payment was the last first-round receiver, but they'll draft receivers Shopping was in the first Tori Smith was in the second Chris Moore was in the fourth. Lastly was in the fifth Jalil Scott. What was he in the fourth or fifth? I forgot where he was drafted Tandon Doss, I think he was fifth Tommy Streeter was like fifth sixth or seventh I mean and I know I went way back with Tommy Streeter But Y'all get my point You see what happened to a lot of these guys. I mean with Beshaw Perryman though He first year he got injured. Okay first year was a wash. He got injured But I think with hot ball with how much she will that's when hope I really learned his lesson about talking about injuries he really learned his lesson big time and Because hot I think how ball with how hot ball With his mouth that year He got Perryman on the bad side of a lot of Ravens fans He got Perryman on the bad side of a lot of Ravens fans because the reason I say that is because Hardball was like, oh, yeah, he's weak to weak. He's weak to weak. He's weak to weak So hard boss set an expectation for his Ravens fans like oh, okay He can come back next week cool then another week passing like okay cool. He can come back next week Then another week pass. So us as Ravens fans. We were like Expecting him week to week. We would look at the injury report see who practiced see who didn't we'll be watching closely Because our expectations was set from what hardball was saying like, okay, Perryman is gonna return any second now And every week that he didn't return It's like a lot of Ravens fans like Like what's up with this guy? What's up with him? What's going on and Then finally before that bingles game, they said he was running routes on the field and stuff So I was looking like oh man, he's close ain't close and closer and then boom We get a report that he re aggravated He re aggravated his ankle or his leg is whatever it was and then boom out for the year Just like that So the expectation that was set by John hardball with everything that he was saying That let a lot of Ravens fans down. So at that point Before his rookie it was even over. This is in the middle of his rookie year Even though he wasn't playing at that point It was already looking like oh, man, this guy sucks That's how a lot of Ravens fans viewed it so then his second year came on and Second year came on and he was getting a little a few opportunities He's getting some opportunities in there and the first game of the season against the bills He made like a 41 yard catch Stefan Gilmore draped all over and Then throughout that year he was showing flashes and it was like, okay, cool This guy could be something But then the third year he just dropped way down on the depth chart and It just it wasn't pretty Think we got what we get a mic. Do we get Mike Wallace that year? We got so you got somebody that you forgot who it was but um, he just started dropping down on the depth chart opportunities decreased by far and Things just they went they went south for him and then when he was on the field I think that was that the year when doing Trey Walker had passed the tree I think Trey Walker passed with 2015 or 16. I think it might have been see 16 It's 16 or seven. I don't remember when it was but um Trey Walker had passed. I know his dad ended up being on like support. He just had a lot going on and then his his opportunities they decreased because he was dropping on the depth chart and then When he was out there the drop started coming in So with the drops when they started coming in the the opportunities they decreased They decreased a lot is it almost seemed not like the Ravens gave up on them but That's kind of what it was looking like Then he then he started being inactive for games He was a healthy scratch and that's when you knew like man Like it seems like they they've dated and already moved past Basha Payman so then this season rolled around and Basha Payman They're talking about him in training camp like oh, okay He's been looking good some reports. He is looking bad and some reports talking about his catching motion That is it still wasn't good and Just some of them same issues and then the training camp that we had went to that day he had he had dropped a few and Then he he he started catching Now he had dropped one and then he started catching them and then I felt bad for him because There were people when we were there at the training camp When he would I when I told y'all about this already when he would catch like one pass Then like there was a family that was sitting right in right in front of us he would catch a pass and The kid from the family and I think the mom or something they would clap and Then we he caught another pass. They were they were clap again and it was like it was almost like he was being mocked and Then the kid in front of us. He said it too. He was like, oh man We we're gonna keep count of every time Basha Payman catches a pass. He said we're gonna keep count of it And he was like, oh man, he caught three in a row and then he oh he caught four in a row. Oh, he caught five in a row so Ravens fans from just from the beginning A lot of them were already done with payment a lot of them were overpayment and a lot of them were just like Oh, no, he ain't he ain't good But I just felt like he needed more opportunity in Baltimore. I mean, that's something that receivers do just do not get Mark Clayton He talked about it before how bad Baltimore is at developing wide receivers the Ravens for my first round draft pick Peridman I doubt he he doesn't seem like the person that would speak out against his former team But maybe after his career is over when it's all said and done years from now Maybe we'll get some insight from him And I mean, yeah, well, we don't even have to get insight from those guys though. We can see it for ourselves We look at Tory Smith, for example, he's another one and we talked about this before too Tory Smith. Oh, we love Tory Smith deep threat. He did struggle with drops from time to time, but he made a lot of plays So he made up for a lot of the drops. He made plenty of plays for the Ravens Ravens deep threat Him and Fleckle again, I always say it that there has Fleckle has never had a connection with any wide receiver Like he had with Tory Smith Nobody not anquan Bolton not Derek Mason not Steve Smith senior not even Peter or Peters or he's a tight end so that's a little different but Far as Fleckle with a wide receiver. He has never Never had the same connection. He's had good connections with those other guys now But it's not on the same level that it was with Tory Smith It's not But with Tory Smith, he wasn't even supposed to be out there Because the Ravens they traded for Lee Evans from the bills They got Lee Evans the wire seeper from the bills supposed to be a speedy guy and it was like, okay We got Lee Evans cool. I think his number was 83 for us too. I don't remember But anyway, we got Lee Evans. It's like, okay He came out. I think he got injured in the second game of the season I think we were playing the Titans or something. I don't remember but he got injured in second game of the season So then Tory Smith second round draft pick out of Merlin getting to stay home But he in the preseason he looked bad he looked scared When I watch him in the preseason, especially in the Redskins game like man, this this the guy that we uh This the guy that we drafted in the second round like him. He's I don't know about this guy and then First three first three catches Came against the Rams in st. Louis at their stadium His first start first three catches of his career touchdowns all three all three were touchdowns all three And then the rest was history Him and Flacco had a connection like I said like no other but The reason why Tory Smith got in the game Is only because Lee Evans got hurt had Lee Evans not got hurt There's no talk about Tory. There is no Tory Smith Had Lee Evans not got hurt Tory Smith would have been Probably maybe a forgotten man Even though him being a second round pick with a game of higher chance, but still I mean and I mean you can go to you can go to plenty of years Look even look at Marlon Marlon Brown minding your favorite former receiver Look at Marlon brush out to the people that's been around for a long time Uh on old channel, but anyway, um look at Marlon Brown He was nothing, but he wasn't even drafted. He was a young guy. Um undrafted free agent rookie wide receiver six foot four You catch He was from Georgia, I believe brought him on he made the team Broke Ravens records for touch touchdowns. Uh, touch the most touchdowns by a rookie receiver He had like I think he had seven of them. He had like maybe like six seven hundred yards Nothing crazy, but for Ravens rookie, you know, yeah, that's crazy. But um First year it was like, oh man, we missed the playoffs that year, but It's his first year. It's like, okay, Marlon home. I mean Marlon Brown. We see you Then after that He went down on a depth chart after you after we got him. That's when we got Steve Smith singing So it's understandable, but still he went down on a depth chart like way down and then poof Disappear he's gone. He's gone Like that You would have thought Thanos was around back then Well, actually he probably was for them those Marvel fans those real Marvel fans. I'm not really into it like that So anyway, um It's been the same thing It's the same thing You look at um and and then you if you want to go to more recent history. I mean you can go to this year Look at Jaleel Scott Where's that guy They oh, he um, he dropped the pass in preseason. Oh, and he's a rookie. Oh, okay. Well, you know what? stash time They came up with some bogus injury form in reserve stashed. Everybody knows he was being stashed We all knew that um Jordan lastly Showed him preseason He got the route running down pack man. That guy can get open. He can get open He can get open He can play special teams. He showed us that too Had some little problems with drops But hey Also know somebody else who can get open But who's not nearly as fast as lastly, but who can get open who also struggle with drops But only one of them is going to get a real opportunity and I also understand money talks So, I mean you give somebody a three year 21 million dollar deal even though they probably most likely going to be gone next year You give somebody that um, then of course, they they're definitely going to be on the field Uh, because ravens, that's one thing about the ravens. They do not um except with this whole fleckle thing even though it's Money could be part of the reason anyway, but with this whole fleckle thing It's one of the only situations where they have done it, but it's it's a lot deeper than that, but um Ravens don't They don't put they normally don't put uh performance Over contract and what I mean by that if somebody's a better player somebody who knows a better player But if somebody else at that same position getting paid all the money They they normally go with that player getting paid all the money Even if the person who is clearly better In a better fit for that role still shows promise still shows like hey, they should be out there Not the person you're paying all the money Comes down to that So um, I mean and it happens Look at uh, what's the name? Look at our right tackle How it was I mean we saw Orlando Brown in preseason. We were like, oh man He should he needs to be starting and like I said to myself like there's no doubt in my mind that he was going to be the starter from day one From week one Orlando Brown was going to be out there But they didn't just give him a three-year 18.5 million dollar deal. They gave that to James Hurst What happened James Hurst was out there starting Hadn't played right tackle all preseason, but he was out there starting He ain't do bad He wasn't the worst. He definitely wasn't the best, but he wasn't the worst um, but he certainly Orlando Brown Jr. Should have been out there and Orlando Brown Jr. Has definitely been an upgrade um So yeah, man, I mean with with Perryman The Ravens they do it all the time But Jordan Lassie Jalil Scott with the stash and Jordan Lassie is another example. Um, he he's just inactive every game day And and like I said before a lot of um receivers who get drafted by the Ravens They got to be in fear of their careers. They have to be They have to be because like people say it Uh, that's where receivers careers go to die in Baltimore That's where receivers careers go to die Um, and I mean, I think I think it was Alan Robinson that said it He didn't want to come here He said all they do is throw it up and hopeful pass interference so Here's what it is and now it's looking like John Brown If him and Lamar Jackson don't form some miracle connection over the pad over the next couple of weeks It's looking like John Brown. He is going to be on the first flight out of Baltimore Once the season is over And playoffs too, hopefully And hopefully Super Bowl that'd be nice. But anyway, um, it's looking like he's gonna be first flight out of here Uh, but yeah with Perryman He it was a mix of things why it didn't work out for him in Baltimore Um, but I'm happy for him now. I'm happy that Cleveland is actually using him consistently I'm happy that Cleveland actually is actually giving him uh chances giving him opportunities Is he putting up some crazy numbers? No, but he's doing consistently. Well, he hasn't dropped the pass there Not one Not one And again, sometimes all you need is a change of scenery All you need is just to be under new management and new coaching staff just a new regime Just a new era See what we did there, but anyway, um, yeah, I I'm glad for him I'm glad for him. I'm glad it's working out for him, and I hope it continues to work out for him I hope it continues to go well. I hope he flourishes out there, uh with the Browns And he just takes off So they're gonna be trouble. They already are trouble. Um, but in the future too, man, they're gonna be trouble trouble trouble So anyway, team keep it clean. This is a real good question. Um, Didn't know it was going to take 20 minutes, but shout out to my boy Garnett West. Shout out to my guy Perryman And hey, we out man