 a month before my album come out, I don't have no A&R. He the only person who know me because he got to know me. Like he know my story, he know everything. Like, you feel me? So I'm coming to- Who fired him? The label fired him, but it had to be- Let's be real. It's gotta be from, it had to been from Jesus. You feel me? Cause he was asking for more money. Did you think that he was, why would Jesus not wanna see you win though? I have no idea. I can't answer that question. Did you think it was competition? You're ego, we just talked about ego. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like me as him, at this time being my brother, you don't wanna think that. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk- Did Jesus camp or any of those people come around at that point? No, like let me tell you, the only time he came around was when after I won, he called my manager. Which I get it, I get it. I get it too, you know what I'm saying? Which is, you know what I'm saying? But this is what I don't get, right? When I was going to court, my sister needed my contract. So she went to the office to try to get my contract for them. They had her waiting for like two hours. You know what I'm saying? For your character, just to build your character. To show that I wasn't a local rapper. Like I was really signed to a label, Def Jam Records, like Universal. Like they wouldn't do it. You know what I'm saying? They didn't come out, they had her waiting for two hours and then come out office. You know what I'm saying? But I eventually got it, you know what I'm saying? Not from them, but from the lawyer, but you feel me? And that really, it put a bit of taste in my mouth. You know what I'm saying? So when I got out, he was like, he was in Vegas for the Floyd Maylor fight. And he was like, he hit my manager phone. He like, man, put Ro on the phone. So I'm talking to him like, bro, man, I want you to fly to Vegas. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, no, bro, I see you when I get back to London, I'm chilling with my family right now. You know what I'm saying? That's real. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, when I got back, we started recording and that's when I recorded my mixtape indictment papers with DJ Drummer. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And the mixtape got on fire. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I started doing shows. I was on the road doing shows. And then that's when he called me. It was like, you know, I want to finish this USC project. Like, I'm gonna show you how to get some real money. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, stop doing them shows. So that's what I did. And I came in. Talking about the shows, you had a van. You was riding around here. Oh yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah, you were doing your thing. Yeah, definitely. I had all that before him. But you still was doing that. Yeah. You had the Def Jam deal. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So evidently, some, you had to create your own wave or how does that happen? Well, did they put a budget behind you during that time? How was that? Well, okay. You see what I'm saying? I'm looking at the way you're moving. Right. So I did everything up until me getting signed to him. Once I got signed to him, then we went and did the USDA project. After the USDA project, I was the first artist from CTE to be signed to Def Jam. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I did my solo album, which came number five on Billboard. My life, the true testimony. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Well, they dropped the ball on my solo album. You know what I'm saying? Of course, I had Louis Bag at number 19 on Billboard, right? So my product manager, my ENR, Dave Vaughn Washington, he was trying to go for me a top 10 record. You know what I'm saying? Ooh, ooh. And he was aggressive about it. Well, they didn't like that. You know what I'm saying? And in some way, mysteriously, he got fired. You feel me? Yeah. So a month before my album come out, I don't have no ENR. He the only person who know me because he got to know me. Like he know my story, he know everything. Like, you feel me? So I'm coming to- Who fired him? The label fired him, but it had to be- Let's be real. It's gotta be from, it had to been from Jesus. You feel me? Because he was asking for more money. Do you think that he was- Why would Jesus not want to see you win though? I have no idea. I can't answer that question. What do you think it was? Competition? Ego, we just talked about ego. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, me as him at this time being my brother, you don't want to think that. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just trying to- But the people around you, the people around you are gonna always tell it how it is. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? His actions gonna show how it is. You feel me? So I just say this, right? I came to the Def Jam building to do my album cover. So at this time, I got Def Jam on my side. You know what I'm saying? Louis Bag going crazy or whatever, right? And soon as I come to the building, I come in the door, we coming up the stairs and they blast him, put on for my city on the ready. When they see me off in traffic, they say G-G-R. He don't scroll it straight back to them. He's got me on the music in the building. Now I got my record going and I don't want Def Jam. You feel me? Soon as I come to the building, they got his record going, playing. He scrolled it straight back to them dealership. So my sister called me all day. So I find the answer. She's like, I can't believe this. I'm like, what's going on? She's like, they played a young Jesus record like 20 fucking times on the radio. In the office traffic, they say G-G-R. You know what I'm saying? So she's like, this is crazy. How could they do that? And you got a record that's building on Billboard. Like, why would they do that? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's real. So I'm like, I'm here to you back. I'm in the office, you know what I'm saying? So that's going on. So I'm doing my XXL interview. I'm doing my source magazine interview. You know what I'm saying? And me, I'm still trying to be positive because for one, I'm grateful for the opportunity and I'm a hustle. I'm just like, you know what I'm saying? If I could get through the door, I'm gonna be able to do what I need to do. You know what I'm saying? But I'm not even all the way through the door yet and it's going on. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we gon' talk.