 like Muji particularly has house brand and stuff. So Miniso is pretending to be that kind of store, but it's Chinese. Ah. Pretending to be a Japanese store? Yeah, so when you check out, there's one here in LA, a couple actually, when you check out, you get a bag that says Miniso Japan, but it's from China. And it's started in China. They have stores in Japan now. All of their products are made in China. And so I was researching them to find out what their deal was. They actually opened a store in North Korea. What? And- As a Japanese store. Immediately got in trouble with the United States because Japanese, Japan has agreed to the US sanctions that prevent any stores from being, you know. They're like, but no, that's just the first. The Japanese headquarters immediately were like, we don't know what, because they do have a Japanese headquarters like, we don't know where the store came from. It has nothing to do with us and it shouldn't exist. And then they changed the name of the North Korean store to be called Evolution and promised not to ship any products to it, because that's what would violate. It's not running the store that violates the sanctions. It's shipping, you know. Okay, okay. Wow. I don't know what the, where that's ended up, but it was the first foreign branded store in North Korea since the 50s, you know, like. Wow. Oh, it's just weird because it's all Chinese made stuff and it's a Chinese originated company, but they're pretending to be Japanese. Well, I mean, you could, you, there's probably a lot of apparel companies that do the same thing. I'm trying to think of one off the top of my head, you know, where it's like, you know, Ted Baker, London, you know, where it's like. Oh, sure. Like all the stuff that Jay Cruz made in China, like. Sure. You know. But the North Korean factor is interesting. Yeah, that's right. That's weird. I'm like, weird enough that it was a Chinese store pretending to be Japanese, but like you say, I'm like, okay. They're really pushing the line, but I guess it's not that much different than suddenly. Suddenly the doors. Don't worry. How Japanese at all? Oh, that's so strange. I know. Okay. Good news. I put, well, I put a link of what this device is in the, in the discords or in this, excuse me, the Slack. You can see the actual device, but more importantly, I just got an email from the guy who sent it. Oh, good. Yeah. He says, no need to mention the show, blah, blah, blah. Pretty cool hardware, considering what it is. Flash drives, it says you can remote play PS4 games and PC games or even take them on the go. And I mean, it's like any, any small, small and light Windows 10 device. There's a bunch of those out there. Yeah. The built-in, the built-in directional pads and the A B X Y. Yeah. I just never really looked into it. I'm impressed with it. But according to the Amazon things, I paid like 800 bucks for it. Now I feel guilty because I didn't. Well, but he's going to make it all back and stealing all your Bitcoins. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. Because I don't have. I just have bad news for him. I have no Bitcoins. No, disappointed. Yeah. Do you have a bank account, though? Yes, that I have. I don't have a bank account on it all day. Maybe say, you know, take your password. Yeah. This looks like these are all kind of positioned to be competitors with the NVIDIA Shield portable, which I don't know if they're still selling, but they all look a lot like this. Well, Scott Johnson, how's the weather in your neck of the woods? Is it getting colder? Starting to earlier today was 26 degrees Fahrenheit. Oh, my goodness. That is cold. Yeah. And it has since gotten better or warmer. But I think tonight the low is like 32, so it's still kind of cold. Pretty cold. That's I mean, freezing. If it's freezing, it's cold. This is all. It's nice to hear about that. I forget what cold is. Yeah, you guys don't have to do it. It's just hot here every darn day. I was just in Anaheim last weekend, and it was 85 every day. Yep. And I'm hot actually, which was crazy. Yeah, it's the weather where it's like you just really need to be in the shade all the time. Yep. And if you're not in the shade, you're wanting to get in the shade because it's hot. Yeah, we were mostly indoors. And BlizzCon is usually really well air conditioned, but this year was warmer than usual, and we were pretty. Did you enjoy BlizzCon? I did. I got to get up in front of 20,000 people on a stage and moderate a panel, which I've never done before, and it scared me. That's a big venue. Yeah, it was big. I've never been in a venue that big. Well, I'm going to ask you to do something scary again, Scott. Oh, no. Is that to record a show? Is that you're asking? I want you to get up in front of 50,000 people and read line three. I can do that. That's easy. I don't have to look at them. There's no problem at all. You're not all listening right now at the same time. They're kind of spreading. No, you don't know that. That's true. I don't. OK, fine. Yeah, I can totally. Say things like that. Are you guys ready? Ready. Ready as you'll ever be. I will count you in in 10 seconds. All right. And here we go. Five, four, three, two, one. Thanks to everyone who supports The Daily Tech News Show directly to find out more. Head to Daily Tech News Show dot com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, November 7th, 2018 in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt. And from Studio Feline, I'm Sarah Lane. From Salt Lake City, Utah, I'm Scott Johnson. And the show's producer, Roger Chang. We have got a foldable phone to talk about as well as a way to identify you by how you walk, even if you're trying to walk silly. It's still going to work. We're going to talk about all that. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. US Federal Judge Lucy Co. ruled that Qualcomm must license some of its patents on modems to other chip makers, such as Intel and Samsung, on fair and reasonable terms. Qualcomm had accused Apple of sharing trade secrets with Intel. This decision kind of undermines the severity of that accusation. Sources tell Reuters that Qualcomm and Apple are not engaging in settlement talks at any level at this time. Spotify says that users of its free ad-supported tier can now stream music on Spotify content speakers, or connect speakers rather. Speaker makers will need to update to the latest SDK to allow for the Wi-Fi music streaming from Spotify. WeChat announced it now has one million mini-apps on its messaging platform. If you want to compare that to Apple, Apple has 2.1 million apps. So almost about half the number of apps Apple has. Tencent introduced the apps back in January 2017 as a way of expanding the types of things WeChat could do. You can now do ride hailing and then banking and food delivery and all that stuff from right inside the WeChat app. 200 million users are actively using the mini-programs each day out of WeChat's one billion monthly active users. But as interesting as that may be, we must go to the big news of the day, Scott. Yeah, I don't hear WeChat folding any time soon. So let's get to it. That has two meanings, doesn't it? They're not folding in either sense of the word. Anyway, Samsung announced the Infinity Flex display, a foldable display. That's right. All your CES dreams are finally coming true that opens to provide a 7.3-inch tablet display and has a second screen for when it is closed and works like a phone. You see this thing in motion and it's kind of crazy. Apps run continuously when you change from using one display to the other. Samsung is distributing an emulator APK for testing apps and says it will start a mass production in the coming months. Google announced it as it introduced a native folding device support in Android. Samsung also announced it is opening Bixby for developers. That's their voice assistant. Providing tools for writing Bixby-friendly code and a marketplace to sell Bixby-powered apps. So finally, a marketable consumer level, hopefully affordable foldable display, you guys. Well, okay, so we were joking about WeChat, but let's just use that as an app example, right? So if the device is closed, then it would, you've got your display on the outside that you use like a smartphone one would think, right? So what are you really getting from that additional display? A keyboard. So I'm trying to think of what apps, I mean, if it was anything that I was going to be using for writing more than a paragraph at a time, absolutely, I would want that. But I wonder how many apps actually would take advantage of both of these capabilities. Well, I mean, I can think of one instance, and it's not necessarily a widespread example, but I'm watching some video, and I'm in a small space, and I'm just watching it on the phone size, and then I get to a place where I can spread out a little more, like, let's say I boarded a plane, and I'm like, oh, I can open it up, and now I've got a bigger screen to watch that video, or I start watching the video, and I realize, oh, I can't really see that thing. I open it up so I can get a bigger screen and see the video of what they're showing better. But is it a bigger screen, or is it just an additional screen? Well, no, it's bigger. So you have the phone folded up with a second screen on the outside that you can use to take a phone, and then when you open it up, suddenly you have a 7.3-inch screen. Yeah. That is the idea of being able to open it outside. Yeah, the idea is that you don't have to worry about that screen. You shouldn't have to worry about a crease or a binding point or any of that. At least that's the thinking. So I could see use cases where you're quickly typing with your thumbs to somebody, or you've got to check something real quick, and like, oh, actually I need to take care of this right now. You got this extra display space where you can get real work done potentially. But I don't think Sarah's totally wrong in wondering what the actual practical use cases are. I think we probably just don't know yet. Like we've got to give them in people's hands and have them use them and figure out what they're doing. I mean, if what Tom's describing is actually the way that it works, well, it's like, well, if I have limited space, then I'll just use this screen. If I have a little bit more space, then I can make it bigger. That's great. I, you know, we're so used to not having devices that do this. So it's like, you know, I find myself being like, well, what apps would really benefit from this? But I think having, basically, it's like you have two displays and one would become beneficial pretty quickly. Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, the fact that the apps can continue when you go from one screen to the other is cool. But just the ability to say, I have a fold up phone that could also be a seven inch tablet. Whether the apps continue or not is irrelevant. That there's some definite use cases there where sometimes you just want to have the small phone to type out a quick message. And other times you want the bigger tablet so you can see more of what you're working on. They didn't show us the form factor. The thing was very boxy. They dimmed the lights to kind of de-emphasize what it looks like. They said it was inside a box because they're not allowed to show you the design yet. I guess they're worried about leak of trade secrets or something. So right now it looks super thick. I don't know if this was the best idea for them to demonstrate it this way because really the key to me is, is it gonna feel like a normal phone? It doesn't have to be as thin as phones we have now but it should be close when it's folded up. Then it might be great. But if it's as boxy as it was in this special hiding the form factor box they were using, I don't think I'd want to. Yeah, I am a little bugged by that presentation but it seems like potentially that's kind of a cool thing and I'm all about, well, cool things. Maybe you'll think this is cool, Scott. Facebook Messenger will let users delete sent messages up to 10 minutes after sending that message that you really didn't want to send, after all. Features listed as coming soon in a release note for version 191.0 of Messenger. Facebook-owned WhatsApp of notes has a similar feature that gives users an hour to unsend a message. Now, first question, the obvious one. Well, okay, Facebook owns both. Why wouldn't Facebook Messenger get one hour as well? But Facebook must have enough data on the types of messages that are being sent and the severity of this kind of an issue to go with 10 minutes rather than one hour. I, for one, welcome this. And it's not because I send a lot of messages that I regret necessarily, but I don't know, typos or whatever. It's like, if you don't see the read receipt because you see that within Facebook Messenger, it's like, sometimes you just kind of want to clean up a message once it's already sent. Well, what if they've sent it? Okay, so you've sent the message and it's five minutes into the 10 minute pullback. Yeah. If they read it in the first five minutes, you can still delete it in the first 10, but... Yeah, it'll be edited, but it'll be too late. Yeah, so I guess I don't understand why that would be a thing anyone would want. Like, I really appreciate Gmail's functionality when you create an email and you send it and you're like, oh, shoot, I forgot to include so-and-so. Yep. You can undo, finish the email or tweak it or edit it or do whatever you had to do and then send it again. And you have this like, I don't know how long it is. It's like 10 seconds or something. Yeah, it's pretty short. It's certainly not 10 minutes. It actually holds off sending it is what it does. Right. So because email isn't an instantaneous medium, nobody notices, but they basically just hold it and don't send it until it's past the window and then it sends it on its way. This is different. This is, I sent a message and I either want to edit it or I want to take it back. Yeah, you're retracting. I don't want them to be able to show it to other people. I feel like the Facebook Messenger at 10 minutes is more about instant regret with a long window. So that instant regret, no matter when it hits, your instant regret is never gonna be 10 minutes later. Whereas WhatsApp with the hour window is a wholly different use case. So you've got two different teams here and they're saying, oh, okay, we've run into these other situations, kind of like what Sarah said. They've got data on this. So I don't think Messenger, I think you could overthink the 10 minutes. I don't think they're saying 10 minutes is the optimal time. I think they probably think a minute is the optimal time, but they're saying, let's make it 10. So no one ever complains that they were about to unsend and suddenly they could. Yeah. And then just Twitter, another reminder, you should make it so we can edit our tweets. That's all I want. And I, exactly. But it's also, I wonder how much this messaging will, I don't know how hard the company is gonna work on this messaging. For example, currently in Facebook Messenger, and I've learned this the hard way, I can delete a message. And it seems like I'm deleting a message within a conversation. If I send something to Scott and then I'm like, I don't even want, I'll just delete that. Never happened. Oh, it's still on Scott's side. It's just not on mine. You're deleting it from your view, not from being said. Right. And I mean, and that, sure, that makes sense, right? But that was not something I really understood until I put it into practice. We'll just leave it at that. And yeah, it's, the company didn't make it very easy for me to understand that I wasn't actually deleting a sensitive message. Yeah. Yeah. Police in the Netherlands claim to have decrypted more than 258,000 messages sent using the app Iron Chat, which is an end-to-end encrypted chat service. In fact, the two men who ran Blackbox Security, who operated Iron Chat, have been arrested on charges of money laundering. Police have taken down the server used to send messages. They've also taken down the website server. Those might be the same servers, but they're both offline. It's an unknown how the police were able to read the messages, but the best guesses involve some kind of weakness in how the Iron Chat app handled encryption. The Netherlands police are not claiming to have broken the encryption. An article published by Dutch public broadcaster Nos detailed several weaknesses in Iron Chat, like easy to miss notifications of a change in key, which could be an indication of an attempted man in the middle attack or failure to check if the server sending the messages is the correct one, so you could spoof things. Dutch police might have used any number of methods to trick themselves into being able to get the messages without breaking the end-to-end encryption. Iron Chat claimed to be a choice of Edward Snowden, although that is not verified, it was something they just put up on their website. Yeah, also the name Iron Chat's a little unfortunate here, isn't it? Just given that. Right. Kind of iron. Yeah, it's not exactly iron after all, but it's at the iron price. This stuff always makes me a little bit nervous. There's so much talk and so much praise about services that do end-to-end encryption and this is the future and this is how we'll be able to protect our information and our data and everything and then something named Iron Chat who claims the same ends up getting, they can read their stuff. And while we don't know a whole lot of information about why they did or how they did it, I should say, it still doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence in end-to-end encryption. To me, it points out the importance when you're making choices about important things in your life of looking at third-party audits, whether it's review sites or trusted experts like Bruce Schneier and finding out what they say about a thing. If they don't say anything, that's not a good sign. So Signal is very well audited. They've been very transparent about how they work and so you can trust that their end-to-end encryption is pretty solid. Iron Chat made a lot of claims, but apparently they were full of Swiss cheese holes according to the Dutch public broadcaster so maybe you shouldn't have been relying on them in the first place. It's like naming yourself a humble bill. If you call yourself humble, you're probably not. So don't call yourself Iron Chat, that's all. It's a good reminder though. I mean, I'm guilty of this. There are people who don't care about end-to-end encryption at all. I would consider myself somebody who does care, but when I see that in maybe some app liner notes, I'm like, oh, that sounds good. But exactly how is that being handled? Because something like Iron Chat, it sounds like probably it was not a chat app that any of us should be using if we had looked at the fine print. But it was billed as like, hey, Snowden recommends it. It's the safest way to chat. End-to-end encryption. Look, we have end-to-end encryption and they had a lot of confrontation about how it worked and it looked legitimate. But it also, the other point I want to sneak in here too is it's an example of how going dark is not as big of a problem as some people think. Here is an end-to-end encrypted chat app that you didn't need to have a backdoor in order to conduct a thorough investigation. Right, good point. Flickr is reiterating, it's not going to take down created commons photos when it limits free storage, but there are some details included. Last week, Flickr announced that you don't need a Yahoo account to log in anymore. That was good, but it also set a 1,000 picture limit for free accounts. That was formerly one terabyte across the board, so they changed their terms a bit. Accounts over that 1,000 photo limit, we'll see content deleted starting on February 5th, 2019. Flickr will also block future uploads to those accounts starting on January 8th. So if you've already reached the 1,000 photo thresholds, can't upload anything anymore unless you upgrade to a pro account. I would say two things about this. I used to be a huge Flickr user. Me too. And I thought it was great and I still think it's kind of cool, but I stopped using it because it started to be kind of ridiculous and there are better ways to sort of manage your photos and I was really using it to manage my photos. Most everything else, I'll post on other social media networks and Flickr just really never kept up that way. But it also strikes me, it's just interesting to start to see services, not just them but others, who have stopped looking at a space or excuse me, storage requirements as a way of having a metric for how much you can have on a free service and instead they're starting to do volume. It's kind of like minutes with data back in the AOL days. You get so many minutes of data because it's the way they want to describe it and this is similar to that. Going from one terabyte to a thousand is kind of weird because I could put a whole lot more than a thousand pictures in a terabyte. Of course that depends on resolution and file size and all of this, but a thousand pictures is a thousand pictures. They could be tiny, 2K, little thumbnail images and you're still limited to a thousand of those and that's kind of a... And I mean, considering who has used Flickr in the past, you probably are getting a lot more of those low res old smartphone photos rather than hitting a one terabyte threshold. The key to this story though because the Flickr news of going down to a thousand is a couple of days old. The new thing here today is saying, hey, everybody who was worried that this limit would kick out a bunch of the Creative Commons stuff that you've been relying on, don't worry, we're gonna do the right thing and we're gonna preserve that. It's a fudge. They're saying, we're gonna make an exception for existing Creative Commons. It also will starve Creative Commons going forward because anybody who starts putting up stuff now, you can't go and just today change all thousand of your images to Creative Commons if they weren't already. That won't count anymore. So Creative Commons going forward won't make you an exception to this limit. And that's gonna reduce the number that get created in the future. But it is a smart PR move on Flickr's part. I guess so. The whole thing though, it feels like they're pulling out and none of this language makes me wanna run back to Flickr and crank my account back. Well, but if you pay for the $50 a year or something like that, you get unlimited. Whereas before you were limited to a terabyte even if you paid. I still pay for a Flickr Pro account. And I use it as a, if all else fails, most of my photos are backed up there. Now, it's an old way to think of using Flickr, right? Especially this era of all of our cloud devices and I don't know. I have no business spending $50 a year on Flickr Pro. But I do, I still like the company. I talked about it last week. It's like everything that Flickr does feels very outdated. It's not really a social network. It never, you know, it's once Instagram came in that was sort of the end of it, even for me, even though I used it a lot in the past. But I do use it as a very well organized photo repository. Folks, if you wanna get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to DailyTechHeadlines.com, another show in our universe available for you. Associated Press reports police in Beijing and Shanghai are using gate recognition, not G-A-T-E, G-A-I-T, to identify people based on their body shape and how they walk. System is made by a company called Waitrix, W-A-T-R-I-X, which claims it can identify people from up to 50 meters away without needing to see a person's face. It's all about how their body moves. Changing your walk by limping or hunching or other ways supposedly will not affect the identification. They say there's a certain signature that our machine learning algorithms can identify about the way your body moves, that whether you're hunching or limping or doing a Monty Python silly walk, doesn't matter. You're still going to be identifiable. And China is putting this into place in these two cities as a way to bolster police efforts to capture criminals. Now, professors from Masaki University have been working with Japan's National Police Agency to use similar gate recognition software on a pilot basis since 2013. There's also efforts underway in the United Kingdom and in the US to do similar things. So this isn't new in China, but it is interesting, especially this part about using some machine learning to make it work really well. It sounds like they, it's like a fingerprint. Am I wrong to classify it that way? Like, do we all have such a unique gate? Well, apparently so, yeah. So what if like retina scan or fingerprint or something where it's like very unique to you? I'm surprised that trying to game the system would be ineffective. Well, because it probably is based on your bone structure and it's not the motions themselves. It's the way, and again, I'm just making this stuff up. In fact, if there's somebody out there who works on... Yeah, like your femur is a certain length. Like, we know it's you. If somebody works on gate identification, please email us feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. But, you know, the way your joint works is pretty much gonna work the same way, whether you're trying to hold it over your head or swing it out to the side or do something cool or silly with it. You can't change the structure of the joint itself. And that's probably what the machine learning algorithm starts to identify. Yeah, it is fun though. My brain has gone crazy today since we first talked about this a little bit on TMS this morning about ways you could gain it. And one of the ways I was thinking of is you put a sock over your face and you ride in on one of those hoverboards going sideways, right? Okay, sure. If you're not walking, identifying you by walking won't work. Right, exactly. That's how you get them. Right. Yeah, so in this new age of privacy, we're all beyond rollerblades again. Also, you don't need to put a sock over your face because it's not facial recognition. Well, right. But the idea is that now they don't have the secondary one. All they've got is a weirdo on a hoverboard and they can't tell you. You're real identifiable as that weirdo on the hoverboard. Right. When no one else is using them. Yeah. That's a good point. I mean, I think this kind of technology is really cool. I feel like we've seen it in movies a bunch of times. Like we talked about some of those this morning where they kind of have fudged that a little bit for fiction, but now it's sort of coming to reality. I'm weirdly not freaked out about it. Like the idea that they would know how I'd walk is not a... That doesn't feel like a thing that could be super abused as a part of privacy. I mean, I just walk how I walk. And if it's unique, what am I going to do? It is a tracking method that you can't change, right? If you're going to walk, your only way to change is not walk, right? So if you're going to walk or if you are someone who can walk, then they're going to be able to track you with this. And there are concerns about that, about how it should be used and for what purposes. There's also, I think, some real positives here, which is, man, what if my ring doorbell could use this to just unlock when it saw me walking up? Because they're like, oh, that's Tom. You know, the only people that walk like that are him. Yeah. But I mean, okay. And I know that this is, if the technology works, it works. But what if somebody can spoof your walk? Well, okay, see, but isn't that funny? How we go from like, oh, so they're going to be able to track us. We need to fool it by not walking. And but as soon as we're using it for a positive use, for a secure use, you're like, but what if it doesn't work? Yeah, what if Scott figures out how to walk like Tom and could just walk right into his house? All the walks? Not work? And then we're not worried about the surveillance aspects of it or does it work? I know, right? Are you exactly? If you're going to, let's say you want a hijacker plane and you're just dead set on doing it. It's just absolutely the thing you're going to do. Could I go as that hijacker, could I go and get hip replacement surgery that would tweak the way my actual, like you said, and then socket? Oh, so yeah. So you won't be seeing in any database as somebody who might be problematic. Right. I wonder about that. That is a great question. Again, if there is anybody working on this kind of technology, let us know, is arthritis or hip replacement surgery enough to change this? Or are there enough other data points where it can say, well, that hip's moving a little different, but everything else looks like Scott. So we're going to stop them. Yeah, because it's not just your, your gait involves a lot of other balance and other issues. All your bones, that your rib cage and your certain angle and the way your arms moved to create balance. Like, I bet there's way more data points, but it would be fascinating to see if like hip replacement or you got in a car accident. And so you're walking a little bit different than you used to, whatever it may be. Or like you said, age, like, will these things be factors? That's just fascinating to me. If you're changing the walk, you're going to do it. Your, your body moves the way it moves, but if you change the joint. Right. And I don't know, maybe, maybe that could be enough or maybe there's still enough of a recognizable aspect combined with the other data points. You're not changing all the joints in your body, right? So what if you go down and crawl hand over fist like in the army? Yeah. You get hip replacement surgery. You always wear sunglasses and you take, you know, the skin off of all of your fingerprints. Yeah. Now, what are they going to do? I can't know. They're going to, but you're going to be able to identify you as the only person who does all those things. Yeah. All right. No, you're right. If you have nothing to hide, why would you do these things? It's kind of fun, though, to think of them. And I came up with some really dumb ones that I will not share here. But I think there are a lot of ways that people are going to try it. Because it inspires this sort of thing, right? You hear a new technology. It's supposed to be, you know, super accurate. And then the world goes, oh, really, super accurate. They say, and then they do things to try to foil it. And I kind of look forward to that too a little bit just to see, but hopefully no one gets hurt. Yeah. And if it's as good as Waitrix promises, which maybe it's not, I know, I would like to see it used for personal purposes, you know, for as a way to identify yourself with other factors, right? Like maybe you have to have your phone on you and have gate recognition and then your door unlocks for you. I think there's some interesting aspects that are not related surveillance that could benefit us, the consumers here. That's worth taking a look at. So keep an eye on the gate technology to unlock your gate with your gate. Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on other stories and help us know what you want to hear more about. And our stories, dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. 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You just OK. Well, that's fine. With Gate Power comes gate responsibility. I don't walk this way. I don't know. It's just pretty funny. That's good. Yeah, no, I'm I'm totally fine with walk this way. I just wanted to give the others a little love, too. There's also gate ID. Forget fingerprints. What's your walk print? You know, it's interesting because, like, there was that point where I was on crutches. I guess it would sort of know me by my body shape of three legs. Well, that's another crutches. Interesting. We didn't even think about that. Is there enough motion going on with your arms and your shoulders and everything that would still be able to identify you? But like the way you use crutches. What if you just are in a wheelchair? I mean, that would be not not. You're definitely not going to work. It's definitely not going to work if you're not walking. Although, I don't know. Maybe there's enough from the arm motions, possibly. Maybe I'll just say, you know, I'll just identify you as the restroom guy, like if you're in a wheelchair, like the little icon for the restroom. Just a guy. I get it. That's funny. Just what wheelchair people need. Jokes. People being suspicious. Hey, why are you in a wheelchair? I was wondering. Just trying to wear it like a cap recognition. What are you going to get? You're going to get a hijack of plane. I'm a very famous wheelchair athlete. Don't you? What if you hold metal? There's so many things you can say. What what if you like, for example, like when Eddie Murphy wore like a fat suit to to be the nutty professor and he altered his motion to go along with the again. Again, I don't I don't think that this is working on the they say like, no, you can't just hunch over. It's the way your body swings. So even if he's got a fat suit on and pretending to move different, there are certain things about his body that are just fixed that would still be right. Yeah, like the wingspan or yeah, just yeah. Works on his arm. He could he can do it in a weird way like he would normally not do, but it's still it's still going to swing in that same way. I don't know. As an additional data point, I see this being is pretty cool. But of course, you know, we're trying to pick a part like, well, wait a second. Yeah, I'm going to have surgery in my feet or to throw this thing completely off. That one is the one that starts to make me go, OK, would that that could do it? Because then you're actually altering your. Yeah, you know, they just change they do elbow surgery, they mess with their shoulders. Yeah, you sort of like, you know, if if my phone currently recognizes me with base ID and I get like radical plastic surgery, it won't work anymore. I mean, you can get around these things. It's not going to be very common that that happens, but you could transfer technology and you could put your brain into anything. Oh, look, I'm a four legged furry creature. I'm no longer who you're looking for. That's called a slippery slope argument. It's a slippery slope. It's a ridiculous argument. It's called a stupid argument. You'll slip off the slope and break your leg. And then then they won't even know who you are anymore. What? It'll be all messed up. As soon as I said knee replacement surgery, I began to wonder, could you could you like steal someone's joints? And then and then I mean, I don't know. Do people can you get joints replaced? You don't have joint transplants. I know, but suddenly I was like, but what if you did? But what if you did, you know, what if you tied your calves to your thigh? They just hadn't like now we're talking about spy movie stuff, right? But like you get to capture the CIA director and then you transplant his joints onto the spy who can then walk into the secure facility. Oh, you know what? What if they can't see your arms and legs? What if it's just like you're wearing a moomoo or like a judge's robe? That's not emotion. It's not about seeing your arms and legs. But that's how it would determine where your joints are. You get to be wearing a lead moomoo. And and and you'd probably stick out a little. If you actually have a container, they won't be able to see your how you walk. Oh, I like the lead moomoo. BioCow says, knee off, face off to hip off. The whole thing off. So wait, you're replacing my face with someone else's face. Yes, why? And your knees and your knees. Man, we have some speaking of gait. We have some pretty acrobatic squirrels outside watching this one. He's sort of he almost just fell off the power line, but then he recovered. Are the other squirrels holding up ratings? No, but he should get an award for what he just did. Or a bunch of them just hanging out another branch pointing. You know, I mean, there are a lot of squirrels. I like squirrels. I have no problem with them, but it's there are more than I've ever seen before. Like in any given tree, there are like several squirrels. Any given tree. That sounds like a Greek word. On any given Sunday in any given tree, there will be squirrels. I wonder if they taste like acorns. If squirrels do, you know, is squirrel a delicacy? I don't probably somewhere in the Ozarks. Perhaps I won't be eating a squirrels any time soon. They're fine with me. Just when Otis sees them, sometimes he, depending on his mood, can get a little agitated. What you think, buddy? No, I was saying, owning a dog will make you much more aware of how many squirrels are around you. Oh my gosh, squirrels, skateboards, all sorts of things that are triggers for him, even if he's not with me, are now triggers for me, you know, where you're like, skateboard, ah, is everybody okay? You know, like, actually, I can just walk down the street. I'm a human. That's funny. Skateboard triggers. No, I've done that with with Sawyer, where I'm walking Sawyer and I see another dog and I'm like, OK, I got to get ready because Ray sometimes gets a little crazy around other dogs on leash and then Sawyer's like, what, I'm fine. But then I'll be walking Ray and a bicycle will come and I'm like, I got to get ready. And Ray's like, no, no, that's Sawyer. Sawyer freaks out about. Yeah, I'm fine. Straight. Yeah, it's funny. There's, um, in my kind of starting to get my new routines. You know, my morning walks and, you know, where I get my coffee and Otis and I have our little, you know, we have our loops and we now know, like, oh, well, on that corner, there are those insane chihuahuas that, like, sometimes they're not in the yard, but if they are, it's just too much. You know, so it's like, well, let's see if they're in the yard and then avoid them and cross the street. You know, so it's, I'm thinking a lot about other people's habits. There's a there's a German shepherd who's really cute, but just doesn't like Otis and you can tell if the dog is outside because he kind of has his little perch. And so if I see him, we got to go the other way. Just because Otis is like, nothing's bad happens, but it's like, it just sort of just scares him when I can just avoid it. Yeah, it's unpleasant. Yeah. Yeah. Because he doesn't bark. So he's like, why is that dog barking at me? I'm scared. That's no fun for Otis. Oh, Otis. Never get a dog. I'll tell you. I want to give away something. Do it. Folks that are listening in discord. Or in the chat. Actually, I'm going to give away two things. That way it's not dependent on you having to have supported us. If you're listening live in the discord, or if you're in the IRC IRC. Dot chat room dot net. I'm going to give out two copies of gallium. My novel as audio book. Hmm. No, it is by Veronica Belmont. Hmm. We never do this. I just decided to do it because I got all these codes. So I'm going to go. I've got two codes. First person from Walt listen to current key yesterday. Because he's saying the thing that you're supposed to that we had people say. So, yes, first person to write. The following thing, which I am right, Sarah, I don't know. And I. I just choose anything like this. I just wrote, I don't know. And so there you go. There's our winners. Good work, everyone. Yes, good work. Being literal. So I'm going to direct message you a code. That you use at checkout on Audible and it gets you gallium for free. That's awesome. That's great. Never heard. Might as well use them, right? And there you go. Prototude. Nicely done, everyone. Yeah. Everything. Millhouse. That was great. So, yeah, just got approved yesterday morning. Gallium on Audible. Yay. Good stuff. Yeah. You gotta be careful with giveaways, though, because you can't have them pay for play in the US and stuff. Although, this is a small value item, so it's not as strict. But, yeah, it's a novel, if you're wondering, like, wait, it's a novel. It's a novel about a woman in a mining colony who makes an archaeological discovery because she's a salvager. But then people want to stop her from revealing what she's found because it is very controversial about the founding mining company's history. And if you ever read my other book, Lott Beta, it's in the same universe as that. It's not necessarily a sequel. It's separate. But there's a few character overlaps here and there. Thank you, Gordon MacLeod. Oh, Thrumwold just accidentally did that. He's like, I haven't listened to cricket. That's funny. He just read your mind. Yeah. Smart. Very smart. From Smart Minds. Smart Minds and Weird Gates. Weird Gates for the win. Smart Guy walks really strange. He didn't make any Bill Gates jokes. No, he did not. No. In fact, he didn't even. He walks the same as he always does. You know, it's weird. I feel like in my mind, I can see how Bill Gates walks. Yeah. Even though when would I ever have studied that? Oh, every CDS. Yeah. Bill Gates walks out on stage at the beginning. I guess. I rubbed shoulders with Bill Gates. Yeah, just various Microsoft stuff over the years. But yeah, I can see his shoulders and everything. How many times has there been an announcement where you see Bill Gates walk out on the stage and hello, everybody. Thank you. Right. Which is funny because it's not like it's a somewhat forgettable walk. Yeah, right. But when you're talking about it in this sense, you're like, oh, no, I know what it looks like. But I've heard it so often that even if you weren't necessarily focusing on it, like it just, you know, it is. There was a walk that's indelible in your memory. Like, oh, it's totally. It's the earworm of walks. I don't know. Yeah. Like who's got the most like, uh, that walk? You never forgets. What? It could be a saunter. A saunter? Who saunters? Um, I would say. I don't know. You know, the person I. Johnny Depp probably saunters. Um, Kyle. Not really a tech person. Actually, you know, uh, Jack Black has a very unique body motion when he walks because he's so. Because he's because he's, yeah. Because he's got a lot of swagger. Yeah. Got swagger lacus. Yeah. Better than us even. Jack Black. Uh, he was in a movie that I saw recently that he didn't play a big role. It was a, it was, what was it? Um, not River Phoenix. Joaquin Phoenix, uh, played the, the main character who was speaking of wheelchairs, um, was like an alcoholic that got in a car accident and ended up in a wheelchair. True story. Really good movie. I don't know if anybody's seen it. Um, and of course I can't think of the name of it right now, but Jack Black was in that movie. Oh, wow. It was called. I don't know the name. Think of it. Uh, don't worry. He won't get far. Oh. I know, I know. It's, it's a, it's a. Um. Okay. He won't get far on foot. The name of the movie. That's a long name. Speaking of gate. 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