 We are calling this meeting to order at five o'clock six o' two Get our clock. Yeah, everyone's supposed to fix that. I don't know what happened Good evening, this is the I think it's now a work session of the planning commissioner Philly playing commission The chair didn't if his code not here tonight, so I am taking over keep them may not make it out Caitlyn's may not make it over Gmail and said she would try to make it Any Well, I guess we have to do it audience for visitors first. We only have one not distinguished Unified manager is there any state where you like to make it this time? No, I'm just evaluating you as a chairman pro town awesome No, I'm no pressure. No, I'm just stopping in to See the presentation Robin a addition to No, just the fact that two people come in Good so minutes of our January 17th meeting Hopefully everyone has a chance to read those and I will make a motion to approve the minute I have a question is to memory here when it comes to the asphalt shingles Indeed say that there's asphalt shingles in the building now. Yes I Carries, thank you All right, so around to the comprehensive plan updates We are not talking about energy tonight that is for next meeting, okay read your poster Okay It shouldn't say energy for just the learning the Get your real version next time Energy is March 21st With the SS down planning Commission on this joint article on that day Because is that reading didn't happen for us because they didn't have quorum correct So it's not more it's we're on our own or what well, we're on our own tonight But we're gonna warn a meeting for that Yes Yeah, I mean from my perspective I think it works well for this process because we are planning on talking about The enhanced energy plan on March 21st as well And so we just think maybe need to be a little bit cognizant of time at the next March 21st meeting So, you know, if it's a joint meeting Maybe we talk about energy first and then save some time at the end to talk about the other section of the comprehensive The energy pieces is the only one that's currently being sort of cold Adopted by the town and the yes Otherwise, it's just our village comprehensive plan update which we've all been tracking for a while. Yeah, I mean it's the comprehensive Light is I Deemed it because we're upgrading ours to give the point where we can merge the two in the times ready to do that We're really just Meeting all the requirements of the state and regional planning Commission correct All right. Okay. All right, so So I'm here to talk to you about the updates And the scope and the schedule to have this done So as Robin indicated the scope of work that CCRPC is contracted to do with the village includes Updating doing a light comprehensive plan update to be in compliance with state statutes since the plan was last adopted The village needs to comply with flood resiliency Standards so that involves Updating the language to reference river corridors. We can go we'll go over that in more detail Referencing the tactical basin plans that the Department of Environmental Conservation have developed for the Winooski Basin and the Northern Lake Champlain Basin integrating the work that Do boys and King has done on five corners design and the parking studies So that'll be integrated in the land use and transportation sections that we'll talk about at the March 21st meeting one of the other requirements for doing a An update to a comprehensive plan is to make sure that the data reflects existing conditions So to the best of the our ability and within this time frame We'll be updating data source from the American Community Survey the department of the Vermont Department of Labor other Data statistics that we can get from from the village All the maps have also been updated. I hope you guys got a chance to look at those No maps. We didn't get the maps. Okay Those are on the CCRPC FTP site so I can send you guys I can send you that link this evening or It we can and if you want we can also stop At some point and we can take a look at the maps on the screen so long as I can get on Wi-Fi We can look at the maps that are relevant to the sections that we're talking about if that's helpful Also integrating the enhanced energy planning Work that we've been doing with both the village and the town going forward and the purpose of Plan update to be kind of update light is our understanding is that the intent is at some point for the The village and the town to consider becoming you know working together to do one town plan And just this there's although we're focused on natural resources and Flood resiliency and land use and transportation. There is other information in the plan that is out of date so for example There's information in there about the farmers market and like that was started in 2013 and how many vendors there there are and You know, unfortunately, I'm not in yeah I'm not a village resident so there's those kinds of things that are throughout the plan that I Answers to and don't know how to update them or remove them and so We should talk about how to get that information updated and if that's something that the Planning Commission Wants to get updated you know, maybe it's me going through the plan and Identifying these areas and sending it you you to update or we identify one person on the Planning Commission to look for these sort of contextual descriptions of Very specific village activities. Did you already do it? I was gonna say I don't know about everybody else But I have I'm just planning on going back through and rereading the entire thing and I have comments Okay, so I'm sure Okay, all right, so I think that's a good plan going forward so I'll look to you guys to have that information updated and then You know, we just need to be cognizant of time And our schedule to make sure that it's it's done by the by when we need it to be done by yeah So I think the the logistical question is I can't remember how we did it the last time where It was like typos and all that stuff Terri my book and she got most of them. Okay. All right, so is that how we should do it something to Terry? Yeah, okay Who's actually in charge of the document is is it CCRPC or is it our own staff? Physically typing and changing and making corrections and issuing it'll be mostly CCRPC. Yeah I'm making hand and tour yeah, because I won't make the next meeting because I'm out of town, okay So you could hang on to this and get it back to me. Okay? We'll talk after the meeting about the logistics And so the reason why we're doing this comprehensive Or the update to the comprehensive plan is because the plan expires in August 2019 So CCRPC is here to help you guys that we have 120 hours of technical assistance So, you know, we're under a tight schedule and you know and resources to get this done So we need to be to be very focused to meet What we are required to do to get the plan updated We've mapped out our schedule so that we can have it approved by ourselves and then on to the It's all right So yep That brings me to the next slide. So January I can take you through the progressions so far so Robin met with CCRPC staff on January 10th to identify the scope, which is what informed what I just talked to you about The you've seen the first draft that was provided to you last week We're talking about the first draft tonight The second draft will be due to you a week before your March 21st meeting at that meeting We'll talk about land use transportation and energy The third draft is due to to the planning Commission April 11th Which is a week before the April 18th meeting and at that point the planning Commission will consider warning the hearing So we have two months to do the work And then the public hearing on the final draft Will be on the 23rd and then there's a subsequent meeting on June 6th Where the planning Commission will vote to send the plan to the trustees The trustees has They will receive their plan on on June 11th and warn the hearing and then their first hearing is July 23rd And then their second and final public hearing is August 13th and Between the public hearing the first public hearing and the second and final public hearing If there's substantial changes made to the plan Another hearing will have to be Reworned And we've made some accommodations to make sure You know that that will work out and the plan is readopted by August 26 2019 So I just wanted to give you a sense of really how compressed and and focus we need to be on updating this plan Any questions comments? Can you send us that? Yeah So I guess this is probably the best time to ask this question. I'm assuming and As I was reading through this. I think this is my second time. I've done this I was looking at also I quickly like browsed at the towns and South Burlington as well, and I just thought theirs were I think I made this comment the last time they were easier to read Had a lot of pictures like those kinds of things and Because this is like really have a small time frame that we really can't put too much Jazz into this for lack of a better word Um No However, you can consider doing that after the plan is adopted in August Okay, you can make insurance after you improve well, no I mean in terms of I don't know maybe making it more readable You know if the content is the same you can Think about making it more readable. I'm new I wasn't talking about changing the content It's gonna be I'm gonna suggest that that's not possible. Yeah, only because We have like a hundred and fifty pages of written stuff that will never look like the town's plan which when they did it, it's a third side, but Everybody that I need to do so to go from this type of document Isn't an easy task. It really takes a lot of effort And and since we're doing We're on I mean this may be this may sound strange, but this could be the last one of these Right because the goal is that the next time it's joint a joint one So so I don't know that we Gain a whole lot of doing that. I hate to say it because I think our all Our opportunity for that was last time and not this time I know I totally understand I think it's just I'm reading through this and and I'm like if I can't even understand this I don't know how You know we we we talk a lot about getting input from from But it cannot if I can't understand it then you know and and so I'm stuck between a rock and hard place And I and I get it and I just wanted to mention it as something that you know as I'm reading through this I'm like especially the River corridor sections and stuff and I know that's not like the most in you know entertaining stuff and that's that's your passion, but Just trying to kind of Bring it down to a level where it's understandable for play folks So just out of curiosity if The items that we are sort of required to include because they're either updated or changed statistics or background data or floodplain stuff or Is that like 50% of it and then what you actually want to say? Is the other 50% or is it how does that sugar out? In terms of the time that we have to spend on this I mean well no the content. I mean it's not like we're gonna I mean is it you know, let's say we're doing the river corridor stuff Is that like we just take a section that's been developed by others because we're not really writing it And we just make a new chapter for that or does it weave itself all into the It's it's part of the open space and natural resources chapter. So it's referenced in terms of You know water quality and storm water management and the let's say the Heart and soul values that we came up with that also that is Open space and green and so forth They get married in here I mean I had to focus my attention on the hard Because I was a person that that content was remaining as is I can take another look at that piece. I know that there is an environment piece to it and you know if there are references to you know water quality or Fluvial erosion hazard area so like river quarters are very technical. It's not gonna be that It might Suggest what's important to us and somehow that needs to come out in In the in the written form so that I mean the idea is that when people want to see what they're supposed to do within our village as they try and Develop or whatever as a reference piece it should set the tone in the overall picture for what we want and The land development code fine So I'm just saying that I thought the way it the heart and soul information Which really is grassroots coming out of this community? was incorporated last time was Not as Completely Incorporated as let's say it got into the town's version So if we have a chance to do that this time around then it's not You know a total rewrite with pictures and everything else. We should still Work our way toward that This might that's my thought All right, so I let why don't we let you keep going okay? Um, I heard what you said so let's see how much progress we make today and maybe next meeting and You know the amount of Substantial changes that we have to make to meet statute and we can consider that Maybe you know at the end once we get through the required I guess what I'm gonna do is that we have All these requirements that we have to do and at the end of the day that leaves us with only Whatever is left to incorporate what we want If you tell me at the requirement, I'm not even gonna you know, what am I supposed to say about it except okay? Put it in so I don't need to spend a lot of time on that I want to spend my time okay the stuff that's really germane to the way this community feels about the Right Okay, so just Wanting to go over the public meeting schedule you guys have already seen this Going forward we may have to make another poster because the village trustees meetings are not on this Public meeting poster, but it was intended to be a poster of the the planning commission So we just posted everywhere everywhere everywhere everywhere Like that little bulletin board that's under gloss right right by the corner of my bones. It's also on the nest It's also on the firebird Five corners So I put this slide in here just as background Just to give you some background information about what happens if your plan does expire The hope is that we're not going to get there But just so that everybody is aware You know the having a an adopted comprehensive plan allows you to adopt zoning subdivision and flood hazard regulations act 250 Must conform to your town plan your town plan will be considered in in 248 in the 248 process It makes it more competitive for grant applications Also, there's a few requirements that the Regional Planning Commission has to do for confirming a comprehensive plan so if a plan is expired and Your village designation needs to be Re-upped that can't happen if you have an expired plan You are not allowed to apply for municipal planning grants if your plan is expired Levy impact fees, which I don't believe the village does that And requires state agencies to consider local plan in their planning So if the plan is expired the state agencies wouldn't look at your plan Now we can go into The content of the plan itself Does everybody have a version the marked-up version? Okay, would it be helpful to put it up on the screen as well be helpful to see the map you want to see the maps, okay? We can certainly do that And you're telling us this is all required anyway This particular section so if we understand the sections and we see the map That should be plenty. Yes Okay Yeah, looks good. Okay Okay, so the so chapter 4 was really the the focus of these updates It's where I have worked in references To the River Corridor so previously if you look at the town plan We can start with the on page 38 This is where we have added in references to the DEC is Winooski's River and Northern Litcham plain direct tactical basin plans I can put up a link later that links you to DEC's Website on these plans Essentially they are Plans which measure and assess water quality in the rivers in the Winooski River and other rivers that drain to Lake Champlain and Provide strategy for maintaining and enhancing Water quality in the village There's a little bit of back and forth in the plan in terms of you know Introducing the tactical basin plan on page 38 and then talking about how it integrates with the villages Current stormwater functions so essentially because the village is an MS4 town and has a wastewater treatment program and Many of the strategies that are talked about in the tactical basin plan are being implemented by those programs however, I have added language in the plan that encourages the village to read those plans and and Include strategies that they may not already be implementing So the utilities and facilities section does relate back to the natural resources section So what I was just revert review that excuse me referring to was on page 53 review the Winooski River basin and Northern Lake Champlain direct Tactical basin plan to identify any additional implementation actions necessary to reduce stormwater Plumins and volume. So that's page 53. Yes. I on my on my document My document may have been printed differently than your document. So it's section 6.12 You've got a comment here on page 53 Yeah, so this is like some of the things that I was referring to, you know Very specific activities in the junction that I may not be completely current on so that is about Implementing stormwater discharge standards to be included in the land development code and I looked at the land development code in there are stormwater Best practices, maybe that's not the best I think it's pretty good on that. Okay. So then, you know, that's an area where we would need you can probably remove objective 1.9 Robin if it says implement stormwater discharge standards to be included in the land development code revisions Yeah, because they're pretty good. Okay, so that's I will mark that Okay Okay, and then so the other addition is review the Indian Brook and Sunderland Brook flow restoration plans to identify Potential projects and measures to be implemented to meet flow restoration targets by December 5th 2032 so those are again required To be referenced in the plan. Are they considered impaired waterways? Do we still have any designated impaired waterways? We have none. Do we have to address them in any special way? Well, it's been getting better and better. It's pretty close to not being part of anymore Yeah, and the so the The flow restoration plan is very comprehensive scientific document that talks about the status of these waterways So it's it's more efficient to reference it from the comprehensive plan than to you know Take the language out of that and put it in here You know the village is not responsible for updating those plans the EC is so it's a better use of you know Time and resources to refer to that those plans. They're very specific. They have some great information Definitely not one region though Okay, so that is The addition that we made Related to DEC's plans another addition is about river corridors So that starts on page 40 Previously in the 2014 comprehensive plan The village was using the fluvial erosion hazard area language at that time That was the standard that the state was providing that has since changed And the state is requiring municipalities to No longer use the FEH language Instead to use our corridors But it's the area that Could potentially be eroded in the event of a flood event And there's you know really good description about what a river corridor is in the plan It's the area where a river or stream naturally moves to establish equilibrium Plus adjacent land to provide wiggle room for the river's movement River corridors are a relatively new term and protection of these areas is not required by the state But is strongly encouraged and incentivized through the state's emergency relief assistance fund and also A&R regulates act 250 development to the river corridor and so in terms of emergency assistance fund currently the village has receiving the the most match at some point the state is going to you know retire that status and so this discussion about river corridors and You know adopting an overlay or incorporating it into your zoning is what is needed to maintain that high incentive match rate currently as extension Has regulations for the flood hazard area, but it doesn't have regulations to protect the river corridor So there are so there's In the objective section I've added language that Land development regulation, so if you flip to page 40 If that's not your page number, it's objective 6.7. It's a new addition Consider adopting a river corridor overlay which includes the map the river corridor and small streams with a drainage area of A half square mile to maintain the natural function of waterways and protect public property And so just give you to give you a sense of what that looks like on a map. I can pull those up Melanie when I was looking at this If I took every sentences as being an objective We really have six point six To make that change So when you when you include in in your text consider doing this What are you really trying to tell us is that a Statement to you But they notes to yourself some of these notes That's an objective No, these notes Well, I think wouldn't adopting the river corridor overlay Wouldn't that mean updating the LDC? Yes, and that's that's correct. Yeah Different yeah, I think it should be in there. So we do it. Yeah Yeah Considerers consider when is our next we just did the LDC, but we can make changes We can we can make just we did that before I guess I Don't know why I want to read like if I'm reading this final document I don't want to read it and have it say consider doing something I think it ought to be somehow well I think it ought to trigger us going to a list of stuff that we want to adopt as Updates to the LDC that aren't gonna wait five years. We got to do okay We should do them. We should have this list of things that so need to be updated in the LDC in order to comply with what we're saying in the comprehensive plan Even if they're just technicalities, right? I agree with you're saying what saying, you know the language as It's kind of off that we can strengthen that So that it's more of a of an action, you know, so we can change it to say Just adopt a river horde or overlay in the land development code I'm still struggling because when we Who is using this comprehensive plan, right? What's the goal of buying this comprehensive plan? It's the same. We have a town village plan, right, right, but it's also supposed to remind us of work plan for the LDC Okay, and for what we're what we're envisioning for the community. So It's a big you're right. So you can you can leave sort of Suggestions in it that say you should do this. I guess or do this If a doctor is not strong enough see the LDC for the latest You have plantin. They're never in unison once ahead of the other depending on which was done last That's fine. I'm just saying Tell them there's another piece out there and it needs to be looked at and it's in the other companion manual and if you don't actually name it, but you say it's the latest then it gives us leeway to actually adopt a new one but it doesn't have some wishy-washy language in there about Maybe we should do this or you know, I mean it's I don't it's like adopt means we're gonna have to do it Okay, consider means me to think about it in this case We say adopt means we will do it because the land development has to be updated in the area No, well, I guess you could say consider it now. He's there to say Hi, you know, I think what I read these two together. I want I want to tell me what I'm doing Yeah Well, I think I think we're gonna have to keep ourselves to a you know a checklist of some sort too I mean as we're doing this somebody, you know keeps a separate list or something that says these are the following things So we don't have to go Well, there is an implementation table at the back of The plan and so whatever language Gets included in the objective will then be forwarded into the implementation table And I believe there's a time frame associated with it as well Everyone else is okay if it just says adopt In order to figure out what it is we're trying to get them to do well, we can add the words on DC or if If Any of those other people that are negatively impacted if we let the slaps are using this document to see what we meant Somehow they should also get the message that we either have something or we don't have something or we've committed to something Yeah, so to clarify Talking about and describing the river quarter so that you're Consistent with state statute sets the stage and the values for the community And so when they read this and and they see the action adopt the river corridor, you know That is being kind of proactive The community and the public to see what is going Then the following Action is when the planning commission opens up the land development code and revises Your flood regulations to reference the river corridor and to regulate to the river corridor area Based on based on the map and what the Department of Environmental Conservation says the river corridor is yeah, I don't think should be too firm because the time we get around the LDC DC may have changed some of the Still the goal for us is to comply with your family. We have to work on the LDC It doesn't matter as long as as long as the idea is that we're complying I want to be in compliance and I want to help people figure out how to do that what Else or I'm trying to apply with Not consider or adopt, you know, I mean I want to Yeah, well, I also Like a stupid question kind of deal But if we have so the the language that was put in here about the river corridors is the requirement for this statutory requirement, so we have to write this language, but implementing What is implementing the overall way Yeah, so I guess so that's where the Hieromatterate comes in so currently because you do have flood regulations in your land development code and 200 feet from the flood plain that is Granted you in term status and so what that means is that if there is a flood and The village is mastery, so there's a financial benefit That status is in term at some point the state will Require or you know that that status will expire And at that point To maintain that higher match rate You wouldn't you'll need to have the river corridor In your flood regulations in your land development code So the implementation is revising the land development code to regulate to the flood the river corridor Does that make sense? Yeah, and the The goal behind it is to You're still trying to protect your natural resources Greatest extent possible so whether there's a match or there isn't a mat or incentive We have our own incentive To maintain our water Right, and you know public and private infrastructure and property out of you know harm's way of potential floods Yeah, and there's is there a map that shows Trying to think of how to say it if we if we Change the current 200 feet to the The river or yeah to the river corridor is there you know What is the implications of that in regards to property? Yeah, really good question. Um, so the map Okay, so Okay, so they got current version. Yeah, so you have the current version in front of you and then this is the version Development and develop the area Okay, and so this is the river this area in Brown is the river quarter and then if you look on page All right, let me get you the section because we did do an analysis which Tells you how many structures so it's Um Section 4.5 4th bullet as of 2019 based on the latest river corridor there are Structures Maybe 46 Yeah, it's page 46 in in my document And it's It's paid it's 4.5 4th bullet down talks about the number of structures that are in the river quarter So 28 structures are within the river corridor Seven structures are in both the river quarter in the special flood hazard area there's 24 road segments in the river corridor that gives you And if you wanted to do some comparison We have from our office Pam Braynkin made a map viewer where you can take a look at The river corridor dynamically and online and zoom in and zoom out and see Yeah, see the changes and how they affect certain structures, I would say it's really not even gonna impact because you know putting it in the LDC We don't have any development in that those areas Well interestingly when we have to look at expanding the A1 Main Street That was significant because the flood plain was right So we had to do a lot of You know detailed analysis to make sure that we weren't actually in the flood plain and in it sets on innovation so for So the area in pink is the is the river corridor and then the area in red is an approximate model of your current 200 foot setback from the flood plain and it's from 2015 so if it if that has changed since 2015 this may not be That accurate but it it shows you Yeah, the flood plain is done by Fima the river corridor Delineation that's done by Department of Environmental Conservation and it considers Fluvial erosion So I can I'm not that intimately involved in how it's done You know it does take into consideration the dynamic state of the river And changes the river may have during flooding events and considers erosion impacts There's a lot of Assessment literature on it that I can direct you to Where do we have specific So that is That should be in the LDC. Yeah, I mean there are This state has provided river corridor bylaw language that I can share with you Because the I know some municipalities basically say you can't do anything in there ever for any reason Goodbye, and that doesn't all seem Like it has common sense associated with it So Whatever that language is I think we should sort of take a look at it. Okay time comes Yeah, I will Send you that model bylaw language as a follow-up All right This map was a link inside the suggested language from Yes, there is a reference To there might be a reference in the plan itself, but I will send this PowerPoint presentation to Robin with these hyperlinks and then he can send it to you. So Are they Is it going to end up in our Comprehensive plan it could I mean that's up to you. It could end up there, you know the map Showing the river corridor will be in the comprehensive plan You know when you get a link on a piece of paper So something you click on Maybe you might be able to do with your camera Our comprehensive plan will be online. Yes What are we having versus what are we reviewing so that we have some discretion over it's in or it's not in and Why would it be a good thing? That's yeah, just just help us with that piece there And then you can tell us, you know, some communities had some communities don't this is what you're supposed to do So the river corridor language that I've proposed is what you are required to do If you wanted to get to the river corridor map You know later this evening if you go to our website and click on GIS There's a link to the river corridor map the website's great for that stuff as well Again since we don't really I mean I would you consider that we have a lot of it in our community or we don't really have much If for some reason one of the properties that is impacted by this Could benefit from something can we put a snapshot of some sort? I don't know if that would even work, but you know into the like in that section that talks about the 24 and blah blah, you know, I Don't know how that would even I think we could like it would so are you talking about saying like currently with the floodplain regulations X number of structures are impacted and then Going forward in the river corridor area. There's it wasn't 24 28 structures So are you are you asking for the difference between floodplain and river corridor? Or the buffer between The floodplain in the river corridor. I think it's more important to see I don't know I still look at this and I guess they don't Almost like a list would be nice a List of like the the areas that are impacted That you that we could incorporate into here. Yeah, and earlier there were symbols residential So This is mostly for us in our deliberative portion not in our in our planning portion I can understand that we're just trying to say hey, we're we want to comply with the state regulation Regulations Let's say somebody shows up and they're in one of those zones and they propose something how what's the flag? How do we know that how do they know that here this map? Well, when they submit their application to the to the to you guys and staff do you check it against the floodplain thing and all the other overlays and everything else it could be yeah But we could so what I was saying was we could maybe even include and I don't know if it's easy to do or not, but you know say Following addresses are in the river corridor and not necessarily not beat bit by bit, but you know, maybe Yeah, I'm not sure Yeah, and yeah, I'm not sure consignments address. That's the best thing. Well, maybe even streets at that point I mean it's just something like Oh my gosh Have to be in the document. We're all just wondering how that process works Well, they're gonna they're gonna know that they're in a floodplain. This is not no They don't know no people don't always do their due diligence You'd be surprised though. I mean I just want to put on I just want to put a porch on my I just Trying to add a swimming pool or you know, they don't Necessarily well not saying we have to put 24 ginsmore, but I mean can we can we drill it down for us? so so that we can It's it's more we need the information when it's appropriate Yeah, when we're looking for stuff to help us figure that out I mean and that'll be part of the land development regulation, but I thought what you're saying I think we need River corridor boundary Because you know, it's not you know, some people do build things with that game permits. So I can I will update I can update that section with that enhanced language and I will send you the model bylaw so you can get a sense on to what degree Regulation in the you know, to what degree of regulation is needed in the river so Robin you should be taking notes on the two things that we've heard so far that are going to come up in our list of things That we want to deal with in the LPC Yeah, yeah, I think this is a decent start because you can look and see that's a residential structure That's right. It's in this area. It's in that area Mm-hmm decent start Okay, so we can move off of Water quality and focus our attention to I guess it's still Section 43 but where it starts to talk about Significant wildlife habitat and forest integrity, so again, this is another Proposed edit based on state statute The state adopted act 171. It's the forest integrity Act and so essentially it calls for the protection of forest blocks As a starting point They've completed a statewide assessment which ranks areas of the village for economic or ecological importance. Sorry ecological importance and The language proposed here Says that as extension will continue to protect these areas as studied and mapped rather than Yeah, so this is a decision point, so let me put okay So we're looking at page 42 sex, so it's page 42 Section 43 where we're talking about forest integrity, so Assessment Areas within the village as highest priority At the landscape level so those are sort of teachers on the landscape like surface waters riparian areas wildlife corridors and then also ranks Areas for its ecological importance for maintaining the biodiversity of different species and so the The statute requires municipal plans to talk about forest integrity and ways that forest integrity is going to be maintained and protected So, you know similar to River quarter. It's Having this language in the town plan sets the the stage and the community values for maintaining 2014 plan Contiguous habitat units are referred to from the 2008 open space plan And So the village has a choice to continue to use those areas versus the conservation design areas So the recommendation here is to take a look at map one in the map one for the 2019 village plan versus the natural resources map and Look at the continuous habitat units The you know the contiguous habitats units. I think that was developed and studied by arrow would there was a specific plan for the town and Conservation design data is you know statewide data set so the The choice is you know deciding which area best represents the forested Wildlife habitat areas in the village and how the village going forward Will plan for protecting these areas Look like there's much on that that contiguous habitat Current and I can bring that one up The Wickel farms area right up there around the fairgrounds So that was that those areas Builder on the status So that is how the that's the data that's the GIS data that maps prime primary agricultural My also 40 feet of sand. How could that possibly be prime? I can't even roll brass on I Have a pet peeve on on prime Ag soil in you know, I mean, I just don't understand how they can Used to be prime I so You'll when active 50 gets a hold of it Certainly, there's nothing in the village center. That's prime. I so well look at the map So the whole thing is Five corners is on prime Ag soil. Yeah, you dig behind that red rescue you'll find the foundation for an old Car wash you would just just saying I don't I don't know how we could possibly accept the Designation I don't know what we can do about it either Does that have to be on there? Is that part of the requirement for the specific other section? I will get back to you on that And the last time that kind of thing was updated like how can they say that you know The village of s-extension has been built for Long time My understanding of prime Ag soil meant that it had to be open enough that if you wanted to turn it into a Food source again, you could and there's no way that would really work here Or or is it is it going by the soil type? It is going by so it's going by soil type So even under that asphalt, there's still that soil type underneath. Well It's part of what's on it. Yeah, you certainly couldn't turn it combine ours to around anywhere, right? so I think it's what it used to be not what it is now. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I will get back to you on ways to address this No color referring to the darker brown on the bottom left there new color coordination That's What it is with the high priority data Right it's because there's a transparency on the layer and so But it there's not a symbol on the legend that reflects the Overlight in the cartoon address but You'll see a pattern developing here as John will probably bring up active 50 quite often Well, you know, we're going to be helpful to people. Yes. They try to figure out what we're doing. Absolutely. I'm not Sure, I'm helped by the You brought up a good point about the definition of primary agricultural soils I mean if you look at the definition in state statute it talks in terms of, you know, if it's in an area that's not Accessible other areas it doesn't contribute to the high importance of agricultural uses then it's not and so By the purest sense the agricultural soils that are mapped here in the village don't meet that definition And I don't believe that that's been talked about in the comprehensive plan previously I can so like I said, I can do some work to figure out how to explain the appropriateness of Agricultural soils in the village Is that and to any extent that that designation would impact somebody's Development, I mean, you know, it should just be clear to just struck me We should be clearing something up here. Yeah, no, it's really good. I mean from from the state or the No But act 250 is Go ahead All right so The consideration is between back to the forest integrity is continue to talk about Forest habitat in the village Based on the continuous habitat units in the open space plan or Look at the Vermont conservation design assessment One of one of them needs to be mentioned So that the village is planning for the protection of these well I think that the thing that strikes me is I don't know why we would even be referencing some 2008 plan So it seems ten years old alright, it's pretty out of date. Yeah So this was This is map one in the previous Or in the current plan and the contiguous habitat units are Here so this Pink hatched area and Here and here Okay, and then if we look at the proposed map one You know the area is extensive The regulation or the policy surrounding these areas Yeah, I want to see what the wild did your wildlife species is it I was just wondering You can't mow your grass anymore by the way No, it's gonna have Green hatch circle at Steve's The rare front and endangered species over there he was hanging at my house and they came years I can't get wildflowers, so I mean I can't even get the guy to count wildflowers, but there's an endangered species It yeah, I can That's an identify what species is there I can't do it now, but I can get back to you on that I was just gonna say Does this translate to an objective that we need to again one of these things that we need to update Yeah But but does that mean that we have to update the LDC Somehow to Well, we can do it Do we need another objective that's it implement Or is integrity is insured protection of the villages Either continue as habitat units or higher priority forest blocks sounds like we're going With high priority forest blocks By inventorying the resources determining their current level of protection. So that is Formatting is So do we really have any high priority forest blocks I believe so Yeah, and then so to answer your question Amber and their established standards for protection of them in the land development code Yeah, okay, you know, so that's I also share some You on what level of protection that is okay, you know, so So the one that's along the left edge there is is that done by the Whitcomb farm? So yes, but let's just take for example I mean we keep thinking about the implementation side of this and the so they came in wanted to board I don't know if they came in or not, but they put a bunch of solar a solar farm down there, right? So that wouldn't have gone in the forest piece that would have gone on Prime Ag soil or some kind of right on the on the fields I don't they didn't you know, they were already using them for other crops now. They were solar Come into play when somebody came in with a project like that and said I want to put a solar Solar farm in this particular site. We would Go back to our protection of things and find out that it's Good bad or not acceptable We would be making that well not now, but when you go to enhanced energy planning, I mean you would provide comments and currently the state is the state considers primary agricultural soils for Renewable energy generation as a possible constraint. So some mitigation would need to happen. So whether that's ensuring the Impact or paying to engage With the state not with right with the Mm-hmm So do you have enough input from us which directly wanted to go with the language on this choice? I believe so. Okay. Yes. Yeah There are we How are we doing with time? We're a bit slow We're a bit slow It's quarter after seven. Okay. I mean, I think that's that's really the extent of The changes, you know, we are focusing on forest integrity and flood resilience And I Just in terms of next steps Send me what plan comments you have if you have comments, you know as of today Yeah Review the maps. This is the link to the ftp site We already talked about meeting with the town of s6 on energy planning march 21st. That's potential in the process Next Next meeting we're going to focus on energy land use transportation as well as the other items that we talked about today so that's um just We're all clear. I'm following up with you on Finally As well as Identifying how to deal with the appropriateness of primary agriculture or the description of primary agricultural Soils In the village And I will send this powerpoint presentation to robin share with you guys all the links are live So you can explore the maps and Two questions, uh, Dustin, do you have any words of wisdom or comment for us? Uh Talks that we've talked about many um also impact our Uh In in grand scope, no but specifically really to the to the Use the term, you know contiguous space Frequently and I think there's a line in here in this copy that I think is even more critical to that than that just contiguous open space or or wildlife space, which is the Um connected habitats because we've had we've had presentations from gen Gens hoka from DC. Yes, specifically and in wildlife connectivity is as important as having just contiguous space Um, so I was very nice. It was good to see this and I didn't get the Didn't quite understand whether or not this was language. It would be coming out or staying in but I think uh Having some emphasis on on connectivity between habitats especially since the habitats are are are not large in the various pieces, but Yeah, that's the point. I mean activity is a Assessment so, um, thank you for mentioning that The language that is being added is in the in the red. Um I hope that anything about connectivity wasn't deleted, but I will check on that and the Vermont conservation design data that was shown on map one Um does include connectivity In it as well. Um, but I hear it might need to be stressed for or emphasized on the map This is a plan is what people look for for the overview. You mentioned earlier This is an overview of what your community is looking for not necessarily the detailed, you know, like granules and pieces so They're knowing that you're looking for connectivity is Anybody else has comments on the material or sections that were not part of the presentation But our themes that we've been looking at Well a lot of one comment I would make is that the education part needs to be totally reworked because We have a new school district that now exists that yeah, um, and so references to all All that needs to be rewritten Yeah, and there's a few other sections that need to be totally rewritten We need to decide if there's there's I I have a hard time keeping things in here that are done or Have changed like the farmers market being disbanded That's obviously gonna come out So, um, so I've made comments Okay Updated, so I guess that's why my biggie is that that would be my concern I don't realize we're doing it, you know, kind of finance and play on light But I can't leave anything And there's a lot of those little tidbits are there are there's a lot of housekeeping a lot of housekeeping Yeah So, um, the one thing I will say is that when this was printed and I think it's probably printing there's a lot of Change of fonts and yeah And by visually silly think I'm kind of going that's all got to be because of being transferred from their print or something So I'm not sure how those At this point I'm I'm tolerating them. Okay But I've circled most of them. Yeah And yeah the formatting But, um, it won't be when we get to know when we get done. Yeah, this should be The one thing we'll say is that uh, I'm having a tough time with global foundries and it says IBM Formerly IBM global foundries is not formally IBM. They may be on the former IBM site Okay, but they are not formally IBM. They are a totally wholly different company Um, although IBM still owns land over there. So, um, especially across from ADL Which is referred to in the light industrial piece. So somehow that language needs to be That it does make that assumption that it's one company that was assumed by another And I'm not sure how to Wordsmith, right? I mean the quickest way you see Yeah, just like you mentioned that it was formally IBM and just No, that's fine. Well, there's just there's there is a line in there that says that global foundry is acquired IBM Right So, you know, I can take another look at that section and and try and Fix it Yeah, I've got a bunch of that a little nitpicky put your name on it because it sounds like you want it back Yeah, I'm like a bad Or I'll put your name on it. Yeah Well, I appreciate you taking a look at it and you're making some red line comments. That's really helpful Because there's other things Yes, thank you I Unified manager and the deputy time manager Little book called eats shoots and leaves Yes, and I gave it to them. I read it years ago. It came like I gave it to them last week Any other comments on the visible comprehensive plan on this point from All right Moving on any other planning commission items Um, we're still working through the seven park terrace property It's close, but it's not quite there and Hopefully it will be so. Um, I did get The village engineers comments back on 3d the apple straight Oh Showing machine. Oh, yeah and it looks like Gency and wyoming and you see are are going to start Doing the real crossing on the on track line april this year. So that's great They're they're they're consulting engineers are no longer working for them Patrick engineering and Boston no longer part of the picture Good Thank you, since I leave the building. I'll thank you something I should have said. Um It's going to be a four-story building uh with apartments and retail commercial on the Pending approval by the planning commission. Yes The property South West corner of park terrace and park street soul last week Harvest here is in park street formally owned by Mr. Handy. Yeah, okay We'll work. What's their name? Is that foe? It's uh, yeah, is it foda? Yes So, um That will be coming in. Um, I have seen an elevation that changed the elevation and um Wasn't that part that wasn't part of his master. It was part of his master. Yeah Yeah, and that if you look at the lime green post that holds the sign up for the restaurant I asked them not to start to building until Curve side of that lime green post Could give us much wider They said they would In To the property to park It gets very tight at the back. But if that didn't cause them a problem, they would give us that white side So, uh, does this impact park terrace? Is there's something on the edge on the side of park terrace Or is it the next property down? No, it's that property. That's why it's at the That's why it's called a park terrace. If I have to hear about how narrow park terraces They want to widen it's part. They want to widen park terrace For the depth of third building To get cars in or out. We should be Basically, which means he's giving us he's giving us a piece of his property for a street encouraging that and Any way we can. Yeah, so the side plan looks quite good at the minute. Um, it's just a sketch A piece of yellow trays, but it will come back And I think it'll look pretty good Yes You are if you go to the turn office or something Anything else? We'll be glad to hear a motion to adjourn. It's my boy Well, she knows your adjourn Thanks All those are favorite Mostly Thank you