 a question which begins I think I got lost when you were talking preferences about hobbies likes and dislikes and that kind of thing and then the next thing we went to was it's either love or call for love yeah now your hobbies and things like that that's just former content and it's it's neither a call for love or love is it I mean it's back on that surface like you were saying choosing between the blue sweater and the green sweater yeah those things are hard at the surface and the likes and dislikes but those are still part of the judgments in the sense of you know I'll give an example you know is it a judgment or preference that if I like to play tennis and golf or I like tennis better than golf yeah in a sense anything that's an ordering of thought anytime we even preferences in a sense is a judgment and the only way you can tell this is by your feeling in the sense of an example of going to a restaurant where you go all the time your favorite restaurant and you have maybe a favorite dish a favorite salad or whatever and you go in there and you're you can almost you're almost salivating waiting for the waitress to come and say I'll take the usual and this time waitress comes and says sorry whatever and you have a little twinge of oh you know but that I use that example because it sure seems like I mean that seems like a common experience well I'm just upset because they don't have my favorite dish and I like that remember if you run everything back through the course again it's not the upset is not coming because they don't have my favorite dish yep it's coming because it's in my mind as I've chosen the ego or I have left some priority or some even preference or expectation take the place of peace of mind you know even in a little instance because it seems like this can seem like that's pretty minor like oh it's just a oh but but what Jesus is teaching in the course is that that there aren't no small upsets that you're either peaceful really in a deep sense of peace and joy or you're not and that even the minor irritations and annoying things are for rage you know to use an example from the other team that it's all upsetting so it takes a while and of course he's basically he's gonna have to teach and teach that there aren't any differences between upsets so in that sense that's where we can relate it back to a judgment it would have to be a judgment or an expectation that I I'm expecting or judging that I really expecting to have that blueberry pie blueberry cheesecake or whatever but the upsets coming from from my interpretation of what's going on not the one for you trading your piece into that yeah right that's a kind of a practical example of how that relates to this those preferences do not fall in the category of take it or leave it and I think you know anytime there's a charge of any kind related to something that I want that indicates my preference and that's the extent to which I'll put that between me and my peace of mind so it's not to say you know that you're not to play tennis or you're not to play golf if your intention is to stay at peace and something comes up that intervenes between you know you're playing tennis yeah it rains and you're been out of shape then it rains and it's like well okay right no big deal you can still stay at peace what the course does is basically just saying to ask that question what is it for and what he's doing is he's just having us train our minds to think of everything as holy encounters that that you know instead of going out there sometimes with the remember the old you know go out to win at all costs very competitive and tennis and everything but but it's giving a new purpose to the world to going to that tennis match or going to that golf match or going to the ballgame or going shopping or going to the laundry room or whatever but just giving it a different purpose letting the Holy Spirit's purpose be the purpose that I'm holding in line in front we've traveled the country you know with people it really makes it makes it into a joy that will trip by holding that intention that everything's a holy encounter and just looking at that way I mean it's like everything lights up because you end up getting into conversations and meeting people at rest areas and in the supermarkets and of course gatherings and here and there it's just a different purpose that's been placed as a priority in the mind whereas you still are doing things you know I had people come up as I've traveled and we've gone done these course things and people I've used a couple tennis examples or something and somebody was like I got a racket let's go out to the tennis court you know and away we go or whatever but but it's like what's the purpose and even when we're talking hit the tennis ball we're discussing things and and you know it it gets away from competition too though I mean that's another thing that I've noticed as I've gotten deeper into this that that's the desire to be competitive the desire to win you know I start to see more and more all that has to do with my own ego with my own self-concept my own trying to put myself higher up in my mind and the more I see it it's not like you you make it bad you just lose interest slowly in those kind of things it's a backdrop I think more and more like birthday parties and all these celebrations and fireworks and this and that I mean I just look at everything is like a backdrop for the to try to see that purpose the Holy Spirit's purpose and everything and that takes away this this form thing a lot of times also with the spiritual past people will say I gotta give up I gotta start giving up this and giving up that and it seems like a sacrifice and basically it's still that level confusion you know where the mind is so conditioned to form things that when it starts to read this about the worldly ways or you were saying the materialistic ways and people can get into this thing of like a sacrificial thing of like oh gosh I gotta give this up and give that up basically what it comes down to is is yeah give up ego thinking you know give up the if you give up ego thinking you give up ego perceiving ego interpreting and therefore the body will automatically the behavior follows automatically when the when the perceptions change so I don't have to think but well what am I gonna do or how can I what am I gonna do to live this right that's that's once again not where the focus belongs just looking at perception it's good news