 Thanks for joining us on the breakfast this morning. The chief of defense, Davlaki Irabo, says there is evidence that Nigerian soldiers are colluding with bandits and terrorists to wreak havoc on the country. What's the way forward? Also on the breakfast, as on ending concerns for zoning continues, dominant political parties remain silent on regional shift, while powers shift to the south in 2023. And don't forget, we will also be looking through today's newspapers and analysing the biggest stories of the day. The events will stand with us. This is the breakfast in plus TV Africa. I am Justin Akadouni. And I am Massey Bofors. Good to have you join us this morning. Like always, we always like to top trending. A whole lot of stories are making the round. Let's start with the National Drug Law Enforcement Agency. And from what we hear, the agency has actually uncovered Massey, a 22 billionaire worth of tramadol. You know, it is no longer news that tramadol are no longer, you know, legal to be sold over the counter. But I don't know, there seems to be this on ending in a thing of drug barons and bringing all this drug, some of them elicit, somehow they just find that we are back into the country. Yeah, most, if you want to say interesting, it's the fact that, you know, Abba Kerry has been linked to this particular, I mean, discovery, if you like to put, and that's quite worrisome. And not forgetting the fact that he, over time, has been described as that super corp. But the question here is, what happens after now? Would he be charged to court? Now though, I mean, it's just natural that we charge him to court and let, you know, the entire process begin. But even if that happens, what will be the end of it? Some people have predicted that. So you get a time where he's been charged to court and then he's going to have a date in court. And afterwards, there probably would be no headway. You know, the case would just linger. And he lingers for a while. And apparently, somehow, somewhere, maybe there might just be something that would happen. And then he would probably be granted, you know, some kind of pardon. But it just shows you that no one is saying that you have a perfect system entirely in the world, but we're saying that we need to have structures. And so we need to put our foot down. There are a lot of conspiracy theories and insinuation out there saying that there might just be a lot of persons who are really involved. I mean, very, very strong persons who probably might be using government influence and structure to peddle drugs in our country. And some persons have felt very disappointed with the fact that Abercarie has been linked to this, you know, this tramadol trafficking. We're talking about 22 billion watts of it. Yeah, that's some large seizure. And it is really, really very, very embarrassing that such a thing like this is happening in the wake of the extradition calls for him to be extradited to the United States to face charges. And we see by the day that more revelations being actually made there. But of investigations, we realize he's been a major importer of large consignments of different burnt and high dosages of tramadol ranging from 120 milligrams, 200, 225, and 250, all of which are illicit. It really shows that we're really, really not heading the right way when those who are supposed to be enforcing the law are actually the ones who are breaking all of these laws. And that's what it is. But we hope that the needful will be done. We hope that all of the conspiracy theorists does not become our reality. So we'll just let that one go. And let's move on next. The Christian Association of Nigeria can is actually dissociating itself from a pastor who is actually offering, is it about 310,000 naira, for people who are interested in getting to heaven, something like a ticket to heaven. I wonder how that works. So but then the Christian Association of Nigeria came out to say that it is in no way associated in any of those claims. I wonder how, or it is for the end of the day, I wonder how people would actually just believe logically that someone could actually give you a ticket to heaven if you just paid money. What sense does that even make at all? So this is actually coming after you already have the incident, of course, you suspect that there should be some reaction because the pastor involved, I mean, Ade Abraham was resident in Kaduna at the time. He lived in Kaduna up until 2000 when he relocated, if I'm not mistaken, yes. He relocated to Iqiti State, right? And so it's just very apt. But let's even stay with the disclaimer that's been put by Khan in Kaduna saying, we do not recognize, I mean, we have not, we have nothing to do with this pastor. There's no face that can be placed to him. You can't really identify his congregation, where he's located, his location. As a matter of fact, they're even saying anyone with useful information as to where he's located or where he can be found should make that available. So there could just be a collaboration with the church or the body and security personnel because all that's going on. But it's very interesting. I mean, I don't know if you've actually seen the video. So he promised, he promised this church members, I don't know how to put it, this church members. And he told them now, he was based in Kaduna, relocated to Iqiti. And afterwards he will attend, he went back and told them that he was going to take them to, you know, safe place where get them prepared for rapture or, you know, going to make heaven. And so there's a place that has been calmed. I mean, these Christians have been calmed. Unfortunately, weren't able to put out that video, you know, to show you all of that. But it just brings us back to the fact that Nigerians, some Nigerians are gullible. And so religion over time, I don't want to say religion, you know, it's bad, but I just think that how we follow religion. So some persons have decided to even believe their pastors, more than the Bible itself. And so whatever the pastor say, without even running that through the scripture, if you say you're a Christian, so everybody just get to worship and then. It's quite interesting to also know that even members of this church have also spoken to their children. So for instance, there's also a WhatsApp message or conversation that's also in public space that talks about a certain member telling her child or his child to come back to Nigeria because he needs to come back so they can go to heaven. And if she doesn't come back, there's a tendency that she might just face that destruction because the pastor will go ahead to ensure. I mean, the pastor actually said that. Is a chart, I saw the chart and said, you will actually commit a crime and you will be sentenced to prison where you are. So it's, I really, no now. How do we do all, even if you're going to go to heaven, do you have to pay? Yeah, I see if you're bribing your way to heaven. Is that what you're doing? It's not even that, but let's even look it. So we constantly say that for those who follow Jesus, I mean, if you say you're a Christian, you should understand the tenets. And if you look at Jesus and follow his antecedent, you'll understand that everywhere he when he was doing, Jesus would never be so mean to tell you to pay money to go to heaven again. So I really don't know, $310,000, that's a lot of money. So this pastor made a lot of calculation and he understands, you know, the figures already. I wonder if it's first class or the economy or business class to get to heaven because I don't know how. You need to see where they're coming. Preparation to go to heaven. I didn't know going to heaven was actually such a... But you know, in the long run, we need to do better as a people. It doesn't matter what religion you belong, but there's a Bible that would be also a Koran, there's a Koran. And so read your Bible, read it for yourself, understand it. When you begin to believe the pastor more than the Bible, they say, but even more than God, they become... Because they don't even understand what it is they are reading. They just follow whatever is being told to them at church services, at fellowships, at, you know, wherever they hold this, your guidance. They don't even understand the scriptures for themselves at the end of the day. It is what is being told to them that they just see as a gospel. Well, it's unfortunate, but I'm hoping that we can do better as a people. And I know that the argument that's been put out is the fact that it has to do a lot with poverty. Some people would say, but imagine that you have a daughter who is not even in the country. And some people would say it doesn't even make sense. Or even the enlightened, because I remember a time where Ebola was a big thing. I mean, that outbreak of Ebola. People who were professors, you know, medical practitioners, they went on taking salt, shower and drinking salt water, and all of that, just to cure Ebola. So it just shows, I really don't know what it is, but we need to educate ourselves. And if you say you're a Christian or you are a Muslim, then you need to read and study the Quran. I don't understand. If we're trying to understand all of that, when they tell them to pay 310,000 there, did they bother to ask, what is it for food we're gonna take? No, no, no, it's been stated clearly that they are going to go to heaven. I mean, it's a ticket to be raptured. Now, the reason why they have been relocated because Adi Abraham made a place, prepared a space for them in where they can stay until rapture actually happens. But this is also another call. As much as we're saying that people should be very conscious and people should study their scripture, if you say you're a Christian, whatever religion did you claim, you need to understand the dynamics, you need to follow through and don't allow yourself to anything that's been put out there. But we also want to believe that the government in a state would waive into the situation. I mean, they will step in and begin to act because that is very criminal. And it is fraudulent. It is. So we're hoping that the government already has stepped into it and the said pastor would be arrested because you never can tell how far this can go. All right. Also joining the race for who want to run for presidency is the governor of Ikele State, Kayode Fiamia. From what we hear, he has the clarity's intention to run for the 2023 presidency. You remember we talked about this, that over time we will be seeing more people, more names emerging as presidential aspirants and Kayode Fiamia is actually one of them. He declared his intention just yesterday. I'm not very sure about whether he's declared intention but you have some quarters saying that today being the fort, he probably might just declare his intention. That was more like a consultation, this consultation when he visited at Doe State, Akira Dalu, making all of that conversation and of course, today fingers across, he might just join the race. Some people are saying he's joined the race but there's not been an official statement saying that he has declared his intention. He might join the race. What happened was more of a consultation and it's just interesting to see that a lot of governors from the APC, I mean you see a lot of people joining the race right here, wanting to become president for 2023 but at the end of the day it lies within the party. It's at the party level because the party would have to decide who becomes the flag bearer and the issue of zoning seem to be on top of or it's on top of the front bone of the conversation. So the party would decide who becomes the flag bearer. But we really don't know. I don't know what's happening. A few days before you have the primaries, just how many more days before the primaries for the APC? Then you still have, you know, governor of Miami. Intending has plans, maybe or maybe not, he would declare his intention today and join that presidential. That would mean that he would probably have to buy the front bone for 100 million. Just do the mathematics yourself. A lot of money is going out. Really we have so much money in this country. Yes, a lot of money is going out to the party's coffers because at the end of the day, if you look at all of the people who are joining the race, then you just multiply 100 million by all of them, the number of candidates that they have. So there is more money for the parties. Anyway, that's as much as we can take and talk to friend. Then it's still the breakfast and plus TV Africa will take a quick break and when we return, we're going straight to off the press. Do join us again.