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I professionally, I am a training armaged analyst also. Okay, great. And I run an initiative called Black Urbanism where I basically say discover, come discover the greatness in me. Yes. Because I believe there is a lot of greatness that lies or hidden into us but there is nobody willing to discover the the greatness. Yeah. So I say why not come up with an initiative which which targets the talent that lies in persons living with albinism. Right. Yeah. So this is an initiative that you created that targets the talent that people with albinism are holding within themselves so that you can nurture those talents and have them, you know, have those talents, I guess, manifest somehow. Yeah, because I believe once the talent is manifested, I believe we also be creating awareness in a more interesting and more interesting way. Yeah. Okay, I see. And you know, this is too entrepreneurship so we do have to focus on the initiative that you have created as an entrepreneur. Can we talk more about the Black Albinism initiative and when you started it? I started back in the dream has been long. The idea came into mind in 2015 and since 2015 I've been trying to find ways how do I break ground as always entrepreneurship wise they say it's quite hard to start if you don't have money but then narratives are changing you can even start without the money so I had to shift golf posts and stop looking at where am I getting the cash and say I told myself how can I use the little that I have to kickstart the initiative. So back into 2018 finally he said okay let's get done with dreaming let's get to work. So in 2018 we kick started off with our first project which was a short film called The Rejector Treasure. The Rejector? The Rejector Treasure. The Rejector Treasure. Yeah and that's how we started up and to that we're still moving on. Right and if I could just read your mission to our viewers because I think it's an excellent mission the the mission for Black Albinism initiative reads as follows discover nurture and manage talents and people living with albinism and they create a positive and creative awareness through doing that I think that's wonderful. Speaking of initiatives how in what ways would you say this initiative is an entrepreneurship? Basically I believe in working up going to do what I love most okay doing what you love does not give you any pain like if you both if I if my director told me I'll encourage that desk over there I wouldn't mind because that's my passion that's what I really want. So in an entrepreneurial perspective if we nurtured our talent then we wouldn't find it hard going to work working for our talents. Yes yes and you did say that you're right now working on being a journalist is that right and how did you how did you discover this talent within yourself or the interest within yourself? The interest within myself when I was growing up I I used to write a lot and that's how it starts. Yeah I used to write a lot then unfortunately I kind of dropped out of school but the dream never died so I was sitting in the house and I looked at the issues around parenting and I said okay how can I come up with a concept to solve issues that do with parenting then I sat down did my research then came up with a show called there was a show parenting on air something like that. Wow. Then I took it to sell it to somebody then they were like okay have you ever done journalism and I'm like uh-uh then they were like how about you first go to school do journalism then see how we can make this a reality so that's how I found myself in journalism school. Right. Yeah the passion was in me but I had no find the right path and the right ways to join journalism school. Right right and now you found you found a way to join that and the reason why and the reason why I'm almost out soon. You're almost out how long do you have left? I think I only have that coming month. Oh my god ah well we'll celebrate with your congratulations in advance congratulations in advance yeah so you did mention that you you picked up a parenting topic to focus on why at that time that you choose parenting what was so important at that time that you saw parenting out of all the other things you could have discussed. Why parenting? I looking at the perspective that I'm doing an initiative, urbanism most of our our relatives or parents per se they neglect us at a very tender edge yeah because some of them don't know how to take us the science is very complicated and I believe parenting is the issue why we have all most of the not all but most of the problems that are being first in society today it's because of parenting yeah and I believed okay if we did if we add parenting on tv in a fine and cool way and talk down to the core issues that really matter about parenting then we'll solve a lot of a lot of issues looking at my my Jenny I personally did not grow up with my parents so I know how it feels if you have a parent there and they act as if they're not there it's even worse than having them then it's worse than knowing you don't have them but you knowing that my parent is somewhere out there and they're acting as if I'm not here yeah it's very devastating of course yeah so you chose that as a topic of focus you took that to somebody you tried to sell it and that person said this is great but first of all why don't you go and shopping your skills in journalism when you're through they can come through and can talk so talk some more about it yes I see what are we looking at over here okay while we're looking at over here is your instagram page yeah that's my instagram page okay and some of the pictures are used I created them to bolster an initiative I'm working on oh hold on is that back in the days of slavery are those siblings one is black one is an albina yeah one is a person with albinism it's a famous suckers back in 18 and 1860 something there it was in england those are the first some of the first photographs that were taken of persons living with albinism what so they thought oh this is interesting and decided to take a photo and actually back in the days it's only suckers where they could where persons with albinism could find employment because they've kind of tried to find places to feed them and was quite hard but they looked funny and all that stuff so they said why not make them why not use them to make people laugh so they took them to the suckers terrible terrible that's unfortunate but now the narratives we are looking to change and polish on our talents so that we can is this your logo yeah that's my I absolutely love it black albinism discovered the greatness in me I love your logo I love the simplicity in it yes and it goes right straight to the point and let me ask you how many people do you have right now who are albinos who have been interested in your initiative who are saying you know what mr. Herbert I love what you're doing and I want you to help me discover the talent in me yeah people do not take change lightly but as time goes by I already have a number and I believe when you're starting it's hard for people to believe in you but when they see the progress step by step they say okay now this is something that you have something going on right here then let's come on board I already have a number of guys I'm working with because running such an initiative you need a lot of talent you need people to help you with the legal work you need people to help you with the current stuff you need people to help you here and there on social media so my team is comprised of people living with albinism and those who do not live with albinism so that we can mix the talent and push the initiative right and also with with that kind of diversity you have ideas coming from different areas yeah that's a good thing about a diverse team yeah if we're only people with albinism we'll be like you'd have your own yeah perspectives about albinism but when we get in different people for more different walks of life everybody comes up with a fun idea and you're like okay I did not think about it in that perspective we've got work on this one okay that's very interesting and so you said that you have different talents working in because that's what makes an initiative like this one work yeah when you first started did you start alone or did you start with someone holding your hand at at the very beginning I mean at the inception of it when it first bubbled in your heart and it had to overflow and you started were you alone you're very alone when you're starting actually you're very because when you're dreaming you're alone so that means when you're starting you're alone because no one is dreaming with you yeah no one is dreaming with you it takes a lot it takes a lot to convince people even to come on board and it's something very new nobody has ever they've not seen it people do not like traveling new new new roads getting them on board and finally convincing them it's quite hard yeah but I started up alone and luckily enough how it all kicked off finally when it picked pass it's like I remember tutors or switched in our department a tutor left then another one came in and I remember I am the class representative in my semester okay so I remember the new tutor called me uh to the office and he's like okay I've come in the middle of the semester but we don't want to push off this this unit actually we're doing entrepreneurship so he asked what are some of the the the topics you would like me to take you through so that we can still have the end of semester exams then I was like people have issues writing proposals and all that stuff and all that stuff then he said okay go propose to your class excuse me then come back tell me yes so I proposed to the class and the class was like yeah we're good so went back to the teacher came started teaching and I was busy listening the way he was explaining giving all these notes and all that stuff immediately when he was done teaching something told me I learned follow the teacher to the staff room talk to him about your initiative then I went up to him and said okay I've got everything that you've taught but have you ever written a proposal or have you ever done something of this sort and he's like yeah I've organized events and all that stuff but I've never gone down this journey but let me show you how we do it that's how we started okay told me find a number of people who you can sell your idea to then bring them on the table then let's talk yeah that's all how it started and that's how it all started now here we are and here we are yes what are we watching here uh I remember this this this this yeah this is a short clip I did okay I'm a hustler I do a lot of things as long as I believe as long as it brings me money right and it's legitimate I will do it so I remember I was uh maybe just before you explain can I read the caption really quickly yeah yeah so it says as long as it's decent trade laying your hands isn't going to solve even the greatest man in the history of making sports cars which is ends of Ferrari started out as a racetrack cleaner even I didn't know that Mr. Farad the guy who started Ferrari started off by cleaning racetracks yes he started off by cleaning racetracks so they dream man the dream yeah it takes a lot it takes a lot to like finally see your dream out there yeah so this I took it uh I was with my friends who come to Tani to Kyosha Magari then I was like okay many people say that we live fake lives on social media then I said let me show them how we really do it the real life yeah the real life so I did the short video I posted it on my Instagram page and that's you and that's me I'm proud of you wow that's thank you thank you so you're not just being you know um you're not just helping people or not just actually you yourself everywhere you yourself in your room you yourself in your classroom you yourself guys just know you as that one guy who just is himself you have a very I think what they call a one-sided coin which is what makes people what they call quote unquote real yes and that's what I believe can actually help fuel your entrepreneurship because you have that one side of a coin where you're interested in you know the path of your journey you've mapped it out properly and I think you're a very very ambitious person and I do hope that you get to achieve much more with the black albinism initiative lastly can I please get to know some of the projects that are upcoming the projects that are upcoming because we're interested man we need to know we love what you're doing we have two projects that are upcoming one is a photo challenge and the other is a football match so I don't know where which I should start explaining you can start with the one that's soonest and then you can finish with the one that's going to come later on okay and now we're doing the black albinism photo challenge all right basically when is that we are launching it's going to be it's going to run the whole of June because actually June is international on 13th June is international albinism awareness day when is day international albinism awareness awareness day yes awareness day on 13th June so the photo challenge is gonna we're gonna launch it on 31st May right it's a primary school which I can't remember perfectly the name that's fine yeah and it will be running the whole of June basically what we're looking to capture with the photo challenge is the inclusivity that has happened since we started since many different people took up the task of championing for rights of persons who live with albinism I won't say I'm the first and I won't say that I'm at the last so we have to appreciate those who have done the work yes and now our black albinism is to document that success yes yeah okay what about the second event the second event is a football match all right this one we are partnering with a short stature society of Kenya the short guide okay yeah basically they are yeah short stature society of Kenya there's something like that interesting yeah there's something like that oh my god and they have a full football team wow a lot I need to learn I'm proud of my country please go on yeah we believe there are so many narratives around disability so on the 15th day of June that we I reached out to them and said okay since international albinism awareness stays on 13th June and we cannot have a football match on on a Thursday why not do an activity on a Saturday where we will create awareness about our albinism and also create awareness generally on disability then they were like okay come up with a plan let's see how we can work that around our necks all right yeah so the football match will be at the city stadium the city stadium the one and only the one and only city stadium we will open gates at around nine all right till noon nine to noon yeah I hope I'm a shaker here and the entry is free of charge because we really don't want you to to miss that okay yeah we shall make our way a little bit more info about the photo challenge basically we have we have six categories we're looking at we have the health the health category okay education we have lifestyle we have social we have ads and any fun creative thing that you can do basically we want to place a single person with albinism at a place of prominence in each picture now for instance where we're doing the photo challenge launch this girl I think she's seven and she's the only student with albinism in the whole of the school now that's inclusivity basically we are including people with albinism in the different things that happen in our society so that's what we want to capture in the photo challenge right a man with a vision a man with a plan Mr. Herbert much respect to you and I love how you've turned a person into a business and it's not I'm not seeing that negative connotation at all I think it's beautiful because going back to the first words you said when you first sat down you said that when you're doing what you love you don't find it being work you don't find it being entrepreneurship you don't find it being business you wake up gladly and you put all your effort in it and I really respect that and I do see you as an entrepreneur and thank you so much for coming to open up to the world and create awareness on what the initiative that you started called the Black albinism initiative thank you so much for that we do enjoy having you on our set we do have to sign out and this has been wine the morning my name is Joy Mochache it has been wonderful wonderful having you guys watch us do stay tuned in for much much more