 Boom, what's up fam Anthony Johnson here today founder co-founder the red man group your host of today's show episode 159 of the red Man group with special guest a yende from authentic alphas, which you could see in my right here whether you're left or the fuck the video works Anyway, here on the channel. It's got about 14,000 subs and it's got over a million views couple hundred videos I think about 250 300 something like that and You guys might have known him from last year when the initial fresh and fit fake and fraud fiasco blew up This guy was central and key to helping expose what losers these guys are but he also runs his own channel He's done a lot of interviews another content. He makes interviews of friends of mine like cobertate John Anthony from John Anthony Lifestyle is Alex playing with fire and many others So today on the show want to talk to him about a wide variety of issues Not just fresh and fit but also masculinity becoming an alpha male Actually banging women and opting a fraudulent loser shit like that So run a good conversation I'm looking forward to talking with him and make sure you subscribe to his channel link will be in the description and Again, you can just go on YouTube and type authentic alphas and you'll see his channel and all that So without further ado, let me see you. Please. Let me welcome to the show a yende from authentic alphas. Hey, dude, man I got no audio on you can't hear you right now. Oh You're muted. There we go Wait, it says you're muted yourself. I cannot meet. Oh, there you go. Thank you now Yeah, you're good on it Hey, not much man. Good to see on the show appreciate your time likewise So to start off the bat, I want to know a little bit more about your channel How did you start this channel? When did you start it? And what's some of the main content you put out for the guys that are new to your personality and your brand? Okay, well, I've been listening So I guess what we call the man is fair or the red pill community I never really was kind of like Specifying that or limiting that just listening to male channels. I started around 2015 2016 okay, and as you know go through things and you experience things Sometimes you have those those moments of solitude where you're kind of just searching a web I'm an artist. I'm always painting and I was doing something requiring my hands or I'm in the gym training So music isn't you know always the go-to sometimes you want to think a little bit more So that's kind of how I stumbled into the man is fair and then I started getting an understanding that there was actually Rebels in terms so a lot of the things that I was thinking about, you know over the years Come to find out the community of men that are kind of like consolidating You know those ideas and those questions and those thought patterns So I've always been kind of like exchanging ideas with guys experience What in sports, you know training the workplace Dating realm, you know, you're always kind of like exchanging information with other guys and I've always been able to Information and advice the guys I've always been able to share things that have worked for me You know in a wide range of areas in life, so I've always gotten a suggestion, you know Oh, you should have a so you should have that you should have a radio show you should have you know And I mean, yeah, I would always tell me you on YouTube And this is before I was really even interested in you, so I wasn't really an internet person. I was a more In-person person that makes sense. I'm not gonna rather play football than play Madden So we first ran that I did to me in the early 2000s. I was just like I'm not getting on this YouTube thing And he's kept telling me you to view to You know, because I would give him like the update on my experiences I go out with women whether I took a loss or I took a win whether it was a threesome or I went home alone I would always come share the minority for it next morning And he's like, man, you got to get on YouTube. You got to get on YouTube to share these things So, yeah, the news to say it took a decade before I actually Said, okay, you know, maybe I should you know get on YouTube that started listening to you to be a lot and I said if I'm gonna come to the Manusphere like what could I bring that's different, you know, what like what will be my contribution I feel like guys already got pretty much everything covered and if I can't do it as good or better Then it's already been done, you know, why bother and that's when I stumbled upon the idea of what I thought was missing From the manusphere and why we were getting such negative feedback from I guess Normies or just people that aren't familiar as soon as you let them hear something you try to share it with them like yo check this out, you know, put this in your ear tell me what you think they'd be like all those guys eat women That was the response whether from guys or women. I always got that response. I thought to myself you know This isn't getting received well And I think that's the problem because I feel like the conversations are genuine the information is valuable But put aren't even listening more than five minutes Because the first impression is these guys are upset these guys are aggravated and they hate women So I said well, how can I get people to listen for longer than five minutes and us not be accused of being conversion feminist Angry little boys. You don't get any women. You live with your mom And I'm like, what did these what like how'd you get that from three and a half minutes? These guys don't live with their mom. These guys aren't you know all angry these guys aren't all losers Get laid. I get laid and I like the stuff. So that's when I came up on the idea of maybe if I incorporate women but on My terms, you know, if I what if I bring women into the conversation? But I'm the arbiter of what said and what's not said and I'm digging for See if the loud any type of deflection and I'm not pandering. I'm not simping, you know, I'm not prioritizing their feelings I'm not censoring. I'm not biting the tongue So that was my overall concept of coming into this space I was typing something. Yeah, man. I love it. I know you mean to like people hear this shit And it is like flip they get an a knee jerk to it you know, they freak out immediately and they they kind of paint the whole thing in a bad light and There is an element to it. That's like retarded and there is an element so that it's not based off nothing It's just they exaggerate like a kernel of truth to be the whole thing and that's stupid as Feminists are notorious with this but really even normies can do it, too They they latch on to like a fraud like a fake and fraud or you know, the captain stutter down there Walter and they think like that's everybody and it's like no, that's not and that's what I noticed about you right away When I saw you talking when it first saw you even just doing some videos exposing them back You know back in August or whatever it was last year Immediately I was like fuck the fresh and fit stuff. This guy gets laid Like that was obvious as hearing you talk and like the way you walk and the way you carry yourself And I think the average Even normie but even man is for a guy doesn't understand that like they're so blind sometimes they don't they can't differentiate between what's real and what's not and Game recognizes game like I recognize that about you immediately man And this this community needs a lot more of that a lot more guys who are real and authentic and actually get laid and actually understand women And don't hate women, but do want to understand them and help other men understand them, too So I appreciated about you, you know from the start when I first saw you even without talking to you or anything like that I'm looking in your content. I Did want to ask you sir. Are you born and raised in Miami? Is that where you developed your skill set? No, actually, I'm a transplant. I I've moved around a lot in my life and it started at a very young age So I spent, you know, maybe the first few years of my life in Jamaica Then I came to the city and I was in New York I was like I a little bit older, you know, I got sent away to boarding school Then I lived with my grandparents for a little bit in Florida Then I finally, you know, got into trouble in New York and I said, all right, I got to change my life I got to relocate and change the environment so I could stay out of trouble because Obviously, you know the people that you're you're ready getting in trouble You're gonna have to, you know ex-communicate those friends Or else you're gonna get back into the same, you know, the same thing. So I came back to Florida You know around the age of 24 and I was already so familiar with it because I had lived in Florida for a couple of years With my grandparents from like 11 to 13. I lived in Florida. So I actually made friends. I made friends in this school And I was able to keep up with them because I would visit my grandparents periodically, you know Like every couple summers or whatever I would come and visit and I would catch up with the same guys So we kind of aged but from a distance, you know what I mean? Because you see each other in two year intervals every time you see each other you're becoming more and more, you know, the man So when I came back, it wasn't like that You know that much of a start over again for me I kind of was able to fall right back into it I kind of knew the area somewhat because I used to ride my bike So now I just went from knowing the Landscape from being on a bike as a kid and taking the bus to knowing the landscape as an adult driving So wasn't that a matter of transition? But I think my game and my understanding of the world Is probably a lot more well-rounded than most because I've moved around so much whether it be different countries Or just different cities and states. So I always had an understanding that You know, they do things a little bit different regardless where you are The women are going to be a little bit different no matter where you are and whatever type of purse store is going to be Interpreted depending on where you are So just gave me a more of an open-minded look And I think that's one of the things that's missing from the man is fears everything's like black and white It's a or b. It's this or that it's bad or good And I don't feel like we're necessarily getting enough of A range here enough of a gray area a lot of the Content can be a little bit redundant And it can be a little bit pessimistic Um, yeah And I think a lot of the guys here they act like they have to be an expert to give advice and it's like Just sharing your experiences is a form of advice. So I think a lot of the guys feel the pressure To somebody that they're not And they also feel the pressure to have all the answers of an expert Which cuts them off from getting some type of advice or guidance from Someone else that could be older and that's the kind of arrogance I see in this immunity that I don't like Because I feel like it stagnates growth as a man if you can't listen to Another content creator that's maybe older than you or he could just be from somewhere different To have a different perspective. Um, I don't feel like this is the place to be Competitive in a way that isn't constructive or positive. I believe it'd be competitive But I also believe in being admirable You know having some type of guidelines or parameters right so the parameters of honor and integrative that we operate with Simply because it's missing in the real world. So I feel like if this is our space Then why should we have it into this space? If it's the man's fears literally called a man's fear I think we should have a reemergence of those old values Yeah Yeah, it should be a space for men or men act like men and not like beta bitches or feminine or Even even hyper combative or hyper competitive Like it's okay to listen when I was younger like no one wanted to listen to advice At 33 I'm now it's a little bit different. Um, but it should always be like that, you know The advice the experience is the experience, you know, whether you're 25 or 45 is probably something to learn So one thing I heard you say earlier that I like a lot too Is uh, you mentioned you're like an in-person person and I'm the same way And what I've always done in the man is fear since 2006 Way back in the day even is build in-person events And that's what I love and what I care about most. I think that's where the real uh, like the most real Shit happens, you know, I love youtube and this is to me It's a lot of fun putting out videos get millions of views and all this kind of shit Educating millions of men or triggering all these feminists and shit But for me the real stuff is in person and that's where the kind of the gold is at in real life Also, you mentioned too something about the frauds. I liked uh, not the frauds really, but that's how I interpreted it Basically these guys like I think I think it's tragic what the fresh and fit have become and how they started Like I don't think Myron found the man is fear and was like some predator fraud I've never as much as I don't like what they do. I don't think they had bad intentions when they found it It's that they felt pressured to be experts when they weren't and they fell into this super fake frame of like I'm an expert I'm an expert. It's like no, you're not and if you were authentic about it from the get go that you just wanted to learn Had these conversations talk to experts like that's fine It's that they came in with this fake front from day one and it just got especially with walter. It got to like use extreme Uh proportions that it's just like it's a fucking cartoon at this point like it's pathetic That's my interpretation in a way what they do and Yeah, good I mean, absolutely. Um You know, I have like little, you know things that I'll say like for example, those guys remind me of the blind leading mind Um, because they don't know any better than they're than they're target families They really don't the problem with that is when they're get when they're guessing when you get through yourself can take personal risk when you are someone that's a talking piece and you influence a large Amount I mean doesn't have to be a large amount of people to be honest with you I mean even if we were talking about it on just a smaller scale and we're talking about one-on-one Okay, if you're an individual and you're making some bad choices and you hang out with five people Five people, you know, you're impressing upon them now. You got these other five guys also doing the same dumb shit you're doing Um, so now you're you're you're hazard to those five guys Well, what happens when those five guys are 500,000 guys? so, um First you fit a very dangerous man, and you know, you say that and immediately it's like you're hating on I'm like, well that is a childish perspective right there right there that person that's saying that You are are a product of these type of people's influence that right there the fact that you're 25 22 23 and you think that you know why I'm saying what I'm saying I'm twice your age and you're you're making the assumption that you know where I'm coming from or what I'm saying Because you're literally projecting your small Level of experience in the world if someone 22 size fresh and fit. It's a good chance that it's jealousy It's a good chance that it's envy. It's a good chance that they're hating But if someone that's a decade older than myron, okay, and about 12 years older than fresh There's not much that myron and fresh Are doing that I haven't already done other than maybe buying property and why are they buying up so much property? Because they're exploiting young guys and making a profit of it So aside from their financial investments, there's not much in life their experience that I haven't already done Being popular already been there done that having access to women casually been there done that You know been able to buy nice clothes and nice jewelry and material things that don't really matter Been there done that being able to travel get on a plane and go places and be the center of attention Again being there done that So I have no reason to like be jealous of them. What I'm looking at is the hazard Now these guys are just quietly making their money God bless you But the but the problem is that they have a platform and they're giving a lot of really bad advice Um, you can't tell them guys. Hey always wear condoms guys and then you're out here getting girls pregnant out of wedges You can't be bashing single mothers then you're out here making a girl a single mother You can't be out here telling guys be real making money and then you're paying for fake press releases and fake pictures on jets and I mean come on guys. You can't do that because these young guys when they try to do what these guys are doing They they're gonna suffer much worse consequence. Nobody has a lawyer Like say my ring has so if you're I hear talking to women like this and dealing with women like this You can end up in jail real fast You get what i'm trying to say you're not going to be able to block instagrams and pay a high power to make it go away You're not going to be able to start a court Going to be able to pressure the girl into getting an abortion. So if you look at how much Things that these guys have gotten into in just a year's time how many scandals The average guy wouldn't be able to survive one of them let alone several of them So I just feel like it's really irresponsible To be encouraging young guys to do these things a big way when the consequences for them are gonna be much worse Yeah, they're leading men off a cliff and it's sad and all they do is pair it basically what like rollo says and Guys that they think no shit, but don't it's the blind leading the blind leading the blind It's like multiple layers of this shit Like rollo hasn't had I know rollo. He was a former business partner. I knew him for several years He hasn't had a same night lay with the chick in like 30 fucking years And yet he goes on the internet talking to young guys about spinning plates and banging chicks Like all day long. It's like this is this is delusional This guy hasn't had a same night license bill clinton was getting blood jobs Like the the the whole experience of this dating today has changed and he doesn't actually know anything It's all just theory jockey and all this bullshit That's one of the things I like about you too and your channel is like it's obvious to me you have a lot of experience And it's real and it's physical and the mana spirit It kind of goes through these waves where it's like inner game outer game inner game outer game Red pill of theory now we're gonna do like this shit like it it keeps going back and forth like a ping pong ball But I think right now because of the rollo crowd and these these faggots Like it's basically it's too much theory jockeying stuff It's way too much theory not enough experience And that's one of the things I noticed recently too and I was just kind of tweeting about it on my twitter All these frauds if you notice and you listen closely and I think you're the opposite though But these guys they don't talk about Anything physical with women they don't talk about anything tactile like touching and sexual attention Like how to actually fuck women and anything like that because they don't know Like I don't doubt that myron can like rope some chicken from his podcast They really don't They really yeah, but he had I mean to me it's obvious walter You know sergeant sergeant stutter has no idea to fuck a chick how to bang a chick how to kiss a chick How to fucking how to make her swoon? Let's call it ought to make her melt Then the same with myron myron is angry and bitter and it's really obvious like it's overt It's explicit and that to me signals that he does not understand women in any kind of like Experiential that's the word way And that's that's sad because guys need to know that shit Like that to me is a sign of someone who's actually good with women is if you can physically handle them Whether it's in a social setting or in the bedroom like if you can't do that you don't get women Period whatever else you want to believe and manipulate women and like Harvey Weinstein shit. That's all fucked Good You don't you don't keep you don't keep them. Um is the issue I mean that that's one of the things people act like oh man, you know myron fired you and You wish you were still with them and all this kind of things like bro. Let me tell you something I lost uh, you know, I lost the connection immediately and I was never with them That's what you have to understand like I like how does that work? You know, that's like when a girl says to me Like yolo, and I'm like what the hell is yolo? It's like yolo. You only live once You don't know rake and it's like drake is a child to me. I don't care if drake is rich Like that's neither here nor there but just in terms of age Why would I be falling drake? You get what I'm trying to say? So that's the way I look at myron and fresh It's like I get it myron leaked a podcast, but never once was I like With those guys like I'm not with them. I'm far more experienced than them. How can I follow myron? So what it was is it was just a mutual exchange like I'm gonna learn as much as I can about youtube I'm gonna make as much connections and context as I can and I'm also gonna use this platform To experiment and see how valid my idea is and come to find out my idea was so solid that tech them A lot of people don't realize I'm why Myron and fresh can survive all of this negative publicity All of this criticism and all of these scandals is because what I get them was so powerful That people are gonna tune in regardless just to see those pretty girls at the table, which aren't so pretty anymore But that's how badly guys Are are going to be Biologically wired to tune in for females. We can't you know, we can't stop Especially immature guys and especially guys that aren't getting women Those are the guys that are going to be you know in awe and stunned by girls So you have these guys that aren't watching the show so much for fresh and fit They're watching it for the girls Um, and because of that is why the guests are coming on a lot of people are connecting the dots Not that observant guests don't come on because they um, you know, they they they actually You know cosign with what myron stands for his ideology. It's just simply because it gives them an opportunity To come on get that much exposure and interact with the women Right, so it's just it's a beautiful way to get guys to want to come and sit down We we know this you can sell anything with girls Many big, you know business deals are closed somehow you females were another Um, so that's how you know, that's that's how that works But the thing that I noticed immediately about them, especially myron is what this ego Is what's holding him back because everything that he got into I warned him every single thing I I pulled him to the side and said listen If you're gonna kick girls out It has to be a reason they have it has to be deserved and do it on camera and make it a teachable moment You know teach women how they need to respect men and how they need to interact He completely bastardized that that would have been a great tool To to to take an opportunity to show men what behavior not to tolerate How to handle it? Sure, right and also show women how they need to interact with men on some type of level of respect But he he fucked it all up and just made it an opportunity to abuse women but a little of them um And exploit them for for the entertainment of the lowest denominator Okay, for the resentful guys that don't have the balls to put a girl in check in real life That's right. And I Punish bad behavior The way you punish women is by being a guy that they're attracted to that they desire And then subtracting yourself from the equation when they misbehave. That's how you punish women You don't put effort into punishing women. You just distance yourself from them All right and make them suffer with your absence. I also told them is not controlling women game is Game is having women want to do what you'd like them to do It's incentivizing women to behave the way you would like them to behave by their own choice That's game not leveraging something or threatening women or forcing women Or doing resentful things like deleting their instagram hacking their instagram if they they offend you I mean, this is all feminine behavior, you know, let me get you in trouble or let me silence you That's hypocritical to say hey We're the manifest for a place where Our free speech is already threatened and then the way that you deal with guys That challenge and criticize you is that you try to silence them Okay by unfair means let me pay a hack or let me report them to youtube or let me get my subs So to mass report them. I mean come on guys. This is ridiculous. So You know and and these guys are the most popular guys and I saw I saw coming from a while away I said what's gonna happen is They're gonna become extremely Popular and they're gonna begin to represent us all and that's what I was trying to prevent is because When when you're when you're on the outside of something you're not gonna differentiate the members They're all the same to you, right? So any group of people is going to be represented by the lowest denominator That's just the way human nature operates. Okay, because the defense mechanism So so when you have guys who don't experience women all women are bad all women are to be represented by The worst our type is right now, right? So you might as well consider all women feminists, you know, or shhw user Whatever you want to want to call them when they're not all like that But for the guys who don't get girls, they're all the worst case scenario. Well, guess what? That's what we are So women now it's the worst case scenario that's here. So Your connections breaking up pretty bad, man You there I think we lost him. I'm gonna text him real quick guys. Hang on a second. Yeah, he totally froze up, man Uh, I just texted him guys. We'll see if we can get him back. Um, maybe a different internet connection or his phone or something like that This is a great conversation too. Fuck man. I hope he uh comes back on in a minute. Um, I just hit him up on what's up Maintain frame. That's funny He maintained the frame perfectly. He froze Hey, as my man, Tony Bruno. If you guys don't know Tony Bruno, let's have a look at his channel while we're waiting on a nday to come back Again, this is a really good conversation, man, and I hope he gets internet and fixed up Tony Bruno's channel by the way while we're waiting on a nday is totally worth subscribing to Everybody should go subscribe to it. He's even got a show coming on tonight. Let's see if it's up live yet Uh, I don't think so Not yet, but soon tonight on his channel I nday's back. Let's pop in here Uh, one second Hey there Yeah, am I any better over here? Uh, a little bit your audio is back anyway Yeah, the video has been kind of like up and down, but the audio has been good until it it froze up earlier Yeah I was telling the guys like um Yeah, but I love the uh, I love where you're going with this man internet, you know the internet connection. Fuck I do cars But uh, I'm on board with you this stuff, man, and it leads these guys astray the what they're doing and representing the whole Manisphere it's sad I do think they're gonna implode eventually That to me seems inevitable. I don't know when or how this is obviously they've been through a lot of shit anyway Maybe they'll reform and you know confess their sins and admit that they're frauds, but I'm kind of doubting that's going to happen Uh, I do think eventually they're just going to implode as a partnership good Yeah, I was saying I don't I don't really think anybody believes that they're um, they who they say they are I honestly don't think that's the case. I think these young guys are just overly interested By the show they like see they like seeing the drama they like seeing the girls get Uh chastised and embarrassed So really that's they're just a dirty jerry springer I mean nobody watches jerry springer because they thought like, you know, this is you know Beautiful or or you know, it's the kind of this type of stuff that you watch an episode the next day You forget you forget if you get what they talked about. So they're not really dealing with substance They're just basically Healing to the lowest and not later and all they care about is the views the attention the exposure You know, my run is a dude that got ignored his whole life, you know Whether it be by his father his peers he got ignored, you know I'm really good at listening and figuring out where somebody's coming from And once I heard his speech at the CME Then it was like that was like the last piece of the puzzle that was missing, you know, I knew the situation What was with women? I knew what the situations were with other men, but I didn't know what the situation was at home Once he explained that I got it. Okay, so you never got validated You didn't get validated by your dad You didn't get validated by your peers and you didn't get validated by women So now you've created this false, you know, environment around yourself. You've constructed this And this is why your ego is so fragile. That's why you have to have the weakest type of men around you working for you because You know, you if you're threatened by anybody that has some type of self-worth So you need people that have a lower self-esteem than you around you. Okay. That's that's great um, you can't get into a relationship with a woman that's meaningful because You're you're too afraid to have your feelings hurt or your heart Broken by woman. I mean, it's just It's just you're not in a position to be Um having guys basically, you know, my type of person still needs therapy You still need to work it out first before you can be trying to help these other guys Now granted, he could have came at it from a whole nother approach He could have been a little bit more transparent. He could have been more humble and said I'm trying to figure this stuff out Let's figure it out together Okay, but instead he went to the opposite extreme. I know everything. I got everything all figured out. I'm super confident I'm you know extra extra outfit and it's just like Yeah, but you can't back any of that shit up. Um, and you can't show it Yo, my room is yet to be able. I mean he said on donovan sharpshow years ago when he first was on the seven The first thing that he said to me that made me want to investigate him Is he's like cold approach is my specialty Wow, I thought to myself Cold approach has been my specialty since the 90s I would love to meet this guy. I would love to coach with this guy. He's in miami. I'm in miamis So you gotta understand I see these guys out Isn't an ad that I ended the fresh and fit. I was watching donovan sharpshow and I said, okay, this guy's in miami Nobody had ever heard of fresh Who's doing silly ass plant paying girls to uh, you know do gold bigger videos and stuff So I said, all right, let me try my ring game Um, I don't want to see he's really you know, the player that he says he is because I got game, you know, and I mean on court on the field, you know, I'm guessing that I'm guessing that didn't work out to meet you. I would love to to play some ball I'm guessing that didn't work out so well and you never happen. He did he never could deliver Yeah I loved your comment by the way. Oh shit. He dropped out again. Fuck We'll try to get him back in a minute. Let me see if he can get a better internet connection What I was saying, maybe he'll come back in here in a minute, but I was telling you guys that he caught he said that uh, here he is again Hey there Yeah, if it cuts out again, I'm gonna try inside Okay, I was commenting though that I was saying I loved your comment about uh, myron This is like last year But myron was saying that he was like miami is the olympics of pickups the olympics of game And then you're like motherfucker. You were on the sidelines. You're like a cheerleader Well, you were never involved in that shit and I know that that to me Hit the nail on the fucking head man like yeah Because like man, I'm not I'm not some master fucking pickup artist, but I've done like 6,000 approaches since 2006 Uh, so over many years and I know what it takes to be good at approaching women and it's hard And it took me personally anyway, not everyone Ah, fuck your internet's dead again Anyway guys, I'll finish my thought. He's probably gonna move inside is what he said but uh We'll wait and see what he does But I was saying to you guys that, you know, it took me years and years, you know Of thousands of approaches talking to women to figure out like how to approach women at a bar at a club on the street at the beach whatever the fuck and uh Yeah, the bullshit from myron is just totally fake a cheerleader. Basically is what he sounds like rollo gamed myron Yeah, he uses them for book sales to to pitch his cult cult of uh, rollo pill retard We should get tony on the show This guy tony by the way guys, uh, you know, tony johnson tony bruno here Uh, this guy has banged a lot of women like hundreds of women And has real game and a lot of you guys would do well to study his channel and listen to what he says Hey, welcome back. All right. Uh, I think yeah, I think we'll do this. I think this will work better Sorry about that Yeah, it's smooth actually right now Oh, yeah, so I was just saying man, um, since you know, you mentioned like the Miami Olympics and you know Well, criticizing myron for claiming that he was in the olympics of pickup or some shit 100 support that comment. I thought it was savage And i'm someone who's done like 6,000 cult approaches over the course of like 15 years And i'm not some master, but I know what it takes. I don't know what is what a fucking It was a pain in the ass man getting rejected by thousands of women, right? A lot of that shit go nowhere and it's been apparent to me since day one with myron and walter that they have no idea about any of that shit Just totally like made it all up totally fake and they exaggerate it to make it sound cool to these little kids I even saw on reddit the other day on one of their reddits. There was like a 12 year old that's following them Uh on reddit and on their channel and stuff And he's like all impressed by by walter and it's like these kids don't they don't have a fucking clue because he's in middle school Like that's that's a lot of their audience It's like these little kids that are impressed by like all this fake bullshit and anybody in the 30s or 40s They see that for how fake it is You know what though? I think I think believe it or not A lot of their flaws Are actually what make them so appealing Because when you think to yourself, why are these young people? Following them well because they see a lot of similarities walter lacks You know confidence the ability to speak and be confident to be articulate So a lot of guys think if he could get those type of results, um, then I can too the problem is he's not actually getting those results Yes, yes, and and then my myron The level of resentment is what the guys can relate to they're like I Hate women too I hate all these women too. It's like, you know If mark could hate women and and and be successful and popular and get girls then I can too It's like yeah, but myron was never getting girls and he's not getting them now And I think that that part right there is the because because the thing about Myron that always fascinated me. Okay, and I'm I'm being genuine when I say this fascinated me Is that he could be making that type of money Be that tall Have that much of a following and still Women are repulsed by him Yes, and you know like you would think no, why would that like why would that surprise you why that fascinates you because I've been around Plenty of guys that were assholes. I've been around Plenty of guys that were arrogant But because they had money they still were able to to do it Or because they were tall they still were able to to do with women women have never cared about that with myron So it fascinates me because there was a lot of truth to guys being able to be Terrible the poor people and still get women if they have certain key You know superficial qualities, but with myron The women can't stand it right and then it's like some people will say well that oh that's because of His personality in the red in the red the red go space It's because of the things he says about when it's like no, you don't understand what I'm trying to say Women don't recognize myron. Just because guys that that are in the community recognize Myron you think myron goes to whole food and girls like oh myron gains myron gains were fresh and fit They don't recognize him I want to double I want to I want to double down and just support everything you just said because you get the Nail on the fucking head and guys that watch him don't understand this Maybe they get that he's fake and this and that but like I I believe I've met myron once He came to my event 21 convention back in 2019 and just watching him on the show and all this shit I know that he is repulsive to women like actively repellent like fucking uh Like like bug repellent or some shit. Exactly. They women are on it Yeah, but you but guys need to they need to hear that shit. Walter is not quite as repellent He's just more awkward and like socially retarded and shit like that. But myron is different. He's a different beast and repellent Women like yeah, it's just like he's like a cute cute beta male They're not attracted to him. They like him. You know what I mean? But they're not a they're not attracted to him Fresh is like the cool guy that they take advantage of he's like the guy that they use for things Like you get what I'm trying to say and that's and that's what he that's what he does That's how he comes off And that's how he interacts with women. The thing is fresh tries to Pass things off that with that mentality of it ain't tricking if you've got it You get what I'm saying? So fresh tries to if I had to The mentality is if I make if I make 30 grand in the month And I spend five grand on women in a month. It's okay because I'm 30 grand you get what I'm trying to say so the mentality he has is that it's not bad To spend on women a catered to women as long as it's a small enough percentage of what as of what I have and for him it's like You know, it's easier to get the women this way And I get it. I have no problems with that. I've never I've never been negative about that I've actually said that you got to use what you've got You know what I mean? So even if I'm um, you know, I'm coaching a guy the first thing I want to know is like, okay I don't necessarily need to know what your income is I'm gonna be your personal business, but you need to let me know what your budget is Let me know what your budget is with women And I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna try to cut costs You get what I'm saying? Just like if you hired to manage your money in any other area of your life I'm gonna look at it. I'm so okay. This is the budget is what you're willing to spend. Okay. What is your expectation? Let me see where we can cut corners. How can I how can I um, you know minimize this budget now that I know What you can afford to spend and what you're willing to spend so Freshers approach to women. I don't think there's anything wrong with it because he's using what he got You're not tall. You're not confident. Well spoken. You're not good-looking. You're not in shape Okay, you're not a risk taker Um, so you cannot excite women, um, you know independently You need something else now if you bring a female on a helicopter ride and show her view She's never seen she's gonna have an guiding experience that didn't come organically from fresh But fresh took on a helicopter ride. So she associates it with fresh. There's nothing wrong with that You get what I mean? Whereas another guy, he doesn't need any of that. Just his personality This conversation is gonna excite her and then he's gonna excite her in the bedroom Now when you brought that up, this is one of the things that I noticed immediately about these guys because I'm the type of guy Listen, I'm gonna keep it real. I don't care who you are. I'm gonna tell you what's up And if you can't laugh about it and have a good time with me So you're not the type of dude I want to hang out with anyway Right. Yep So I I call fresh on it because he's trying to act like he was the man because every weekend he had a different girl It's like, yeah, but you're not doing anything new. You're flying these girls in It's easy to fly girls in Instagram is full of women. It's easy to proposition 10 women for the weekend and only two or three of them says Yeah, I'll come to Miami if you're buying my ticket These women are in cold places. Of course, though, though, they'll take advantage of a simp willing to buy a ticket Right. Yeah, so I'm not I'm not gonna give you a thumbs up for that But at the same time, I'm not going to Um, you know, I'm not gonna ridicule you for it because you wanted a hot girl for the weekend and you were willing to pay for it To me, that's that's a masculine that's a masculine transaction to me You know what you wanted and this is what you were willing to pay And 250 bucks for a flight is nothing to you. Okay, cool. So there's nothing wrong with that But the issue Yeah, exactly. And I think I think that's what most guys want to do though by far They even if they have money, they don't want to have to spend it necessarily to get women like this is not The organic stuff that that's what that's the issue I have with walter forget my iron for a second This is walter as he talks all this shit about authentic desire and raw attraction right all this fucking shit And they have none of that and he has to leverage all this this simping buying girls $200 dinners $200 flights I mean these girls like you're saying are literally coming for the weather in some cases because they're freezing their ass off And in whatever the bumble fuck canada's from shit and most guys don't the manuscript They want to learn though. They want to learn like real skills Real authenticity and and change themselves to be good with women And these guys have none of that they have no ability to do that and they never walk that path themselves to transform themselves Or in any way carry this shit out in real life walk the talk But but teach that as my point like I said, I like I don't like this is the thing I don't have anything wrong with it up to that point Right. I think I think that walter should have he should have mastered that Right, and he should have taught guys that because I agree with you But at the same time I disagree in the sense that that's what all guys want or most guys I think that's what some guys want And even if guys want that as men one of the first things you learn as a man when you're coming out of boyhood Is that you're gonna have to compromise in life? You're not going to always get what you want You're not going to get it to the extent that you want it So I want that genuine connection and they want the girl to genuinely You want to be there? But majority of guys are willing to settle for just having a beautiful woman come and spend a day with them spend the weekend with them Whatever so I think if they these guys want to operate in honesty I think everything would be fine at freshness to be honest to be like, I don't miss chicken here for me She's here. She's here for the weather. I know she's just gonna accept my flight Get her um locator her locator number locator code So that she can spend one or two nights with me and then go off and do the rest Do her thing in miami without me and then still catch her return flight Because she already has the the confirmation number. She already had the itinerary So now she's floating she stayed with me for one night now She's willing to pay for a hotel or meet up with some other guy and stay with someone else You know and enjoy her trip with miami because she's already paid her to her dues to the god I want the ticket My whole point is my whole point is he's not honest about that with the guys and that's the part Like because that's nothing to be ashamed of anthony. That's what i'm trying to say We're here for men. We relate to men. So why do we have to lie to one another? Why do we have to lie to one another for example? Yeah, i'm a good looking dude, right? I'm a good looking dude. You see the arm you see the arm, right? I'm in shape Okay, well, let me tell you let me tell you the downside of that with women Okay, they will literally just use me physically like how a guy would use a pretty airhead, right? You think guys really like these girls at the strip club? They really like these guys on only fans or like these ig models No, they just want to sleep with them because they look amazing. They have great bodies and two faces Well women for the most part will try to use me the exact same way They're not going to bring the company party. They're not going to come and introduce me to their family A lot of times they won't even admit You're breaking up again. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm ready. And they certainly don't want, you know, high-valued guys Knowing that they're sleeping with me because that's going to ruin their chances with a guy that's willing to pay for property That's willing to commit to them. Um, that's willing to move them into the penthouse He doesn't want to know that they're hooking up with this young black guy with tattoos and dreads So I literally would be a secret, right? So what I'm trying to say is there's a downside to it, right? In the bedroom is a genuine burning desire. Yes. Will they pay for their own flight? Yes Will they pay for my flight to come to them? Yes. Will they pay for the hotel? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes But will they be in a relationship with me? No, will they show me off to the world and their family and friends? No So there's downsides and what I'm saying is why do we have to be disingenuous to each other as mid Be honest and let's give each other the entire picture pros and cons Then fresh is over here bragging about the size of his dick and it's like What do you what are you doing? What are you like? What are you doing right now? Bro? Like what are you doing? You're you're from you're from the barbados. I'm from Jamaica. You think you're impressing me with that You think you're impressing me with that then it's like, oh no, you know, like like I always tell girls Uh, uh, can you handle me? Handle me? It's like Uh, uh, uh, uh, can you handle me? I love how he's fucking slaughtered so much. My whole thing is, I have too much personal experience and I have too much experience around other alpha guys for you to tell me that you're this heartthrob when the girls never circle back. I see you with a girl for one, maybe two days and then she's gone. She's not coming back. She's not missing you. She's not clinging to you when we go out. There's no chemistry. There's no body language. There's no nothing. These girls couldn't be any more bored with fresh. So that's my whole thing with him was fine. Girls do not feel that way about you. That's how I know you're not fucking them right. Excuse my French. Like if I see, if I experience, if I watch a guy with a girl for more than 20 minutes, I can tell just by her body language and her demeanor whether or not she's being satisfied in the bedroom by that guy. Not only that, but if they don't come around, bro, when you're hitting a girl, right, you can't get rid of her. You can't get rid of them. She's like, glue, man, she won't leave you alone. Right, so the fact of these guys, I've never seen Myron or Fresh have any retention with a female. I'm just being honest. They do not have any type of retention. And then the telltale sign for me, right? And the way they would act like around my woman, you know what I mean? It's like, you guys don't even know what it's like to have a woman, to have a female. And I tell you, you're telling guys don't get married, but you've never been married. I've been married. You're telling guys don't cohabitate. Walter was, I live with my woman. Didn't Walter marry a fat girl years ago? Right, so what was the mechanism there? She wasn't attractive, right? Yep. Case in, then that was the case. You get what I'm trying to say, like explain yourself. You're saying don't date single mothers, but that Fresh married a single mother, right? You're saying don't date single mothers. Myron got some randoms, only fans, girl on seeking arrangement pregnant last year. So what's going on, right? And it's like, you can't tell me anything. I've been engaged twice, I've been married once, and I live with my woman. So you're telling me that marriage is bad? Yeah, marriage could be bad. There's a lot of risk involved, but don't tell men that all bad don't do it. What about the men that genuinely want to be married? If it's not something that you're well informed on, then just say you're not. You get what I mean? Like I don't want to say why Myron has to speak on things that he doesn't know anything about. Just say, I don't know anything about marriage. It's a big deal. Or only experience marriage. If that's the only marriage you experience, say my only experience with marriage is my parents. That's it. Yeah. I think with Myron, it's the constant fakeness, like yes to keep the front up, because he's built it to such a big proportion now. Like I think it's a house of cards, basically. And the minute he doesn't keep that front up, right? He knows everything. He knows all about marriage. He knows all about single moms, red pill this, how to fuck women, how to be a fucking player. The minute he stops that, it's like a, maybe like a shark that's to keep swimming. And if they stop swimming, they die or some shit. It kind of feels like that. Like it's a big house of cards that him and Walter have built for real, man. And I think it's going to implode eventually. I don't know how. I know for example, though, that in business, I don't know the exact structure they have for their business, but all business partnerships blow up, like 90 fucking percent of them do. And I learned this the hard way years ago with Rola Tomasi and Richard Cooper, their business partners of mine. They actually, let's say I can pull the picture up. We signed the business agreement at my house. That's the picture here, back in 2019. And we have been running this show, the red man group for a while, this business. And within three days, Rich Cooper's attacking me and within a few months, Rola's attacking me. And I think that eventually, I don't know how, but Walter and Myron are going to have a fight. They're going to fight and the show's going to fall apart. Maybe someone will walk away with the business or whatever, but it's going to implode. Like to me, this is, they're both very unstable and very immature. And eventually that's going to, reality is going to win out. Like water is, water is going to win, like a nature is going to win. They don't have a relationship prior to the show and they actually don't like each other. Fresh doesn't like Myron and Myron doesn't respect or like Fresh. And even their sound guy left and I was speculating as to why. I said, yeah, they probably weren't treating or paying him correctly. And everybody said, oh no, you don't know what you're talking about. You're just hating. They already, Gavin, explanation for why it's gone. He wanted to be more into the church. And he didn't feel that working on the podcast, you know, aligned with that. And it's like, wait a minute, Detroit say that himself. Like, why do you guys keep on settling for the explanation that Myron gives you? When he's a known liar. He's a proved liar. And these guys keep acting like his explanation is the gospel. It's like, dude, that's a conflict of interest. Of course he's going to give you a narrative that works for him. Look at the narrative he gave for why I wasn't there. He had the nerve to say that because I wasn't a contribution. I was dead weight. And then he didn't discuss it anymore or explain it. How can I be dead weight when the show structure that I give you, you're still using it to this day and terrified not to you. They're terrified to just go on by themselves or just interview other men. They're terrified. They won't do anything without the women at the table because when they do, the views are dramatically lower, why? Because you guys aren't really talking about much. You guys aren't giving any actual game. You're not giving any useful advice. You're not actually really talking about shit. You're just repeating the same shit that was being talked about before you even got into the community. And they're not even your views or experiences to begin with. You're just repeating other people's shit. Then you look at why Donovan is there and you look at why Rollo was there. They're not there because they have a bond with Myron. They're not there because they like him or their friends. They're there because they're trying to seize the next generation of impressionable minds so that they can keep regurgitating the same shit for another decade. That's why they're both there. Donovan is there because he doesn't have any new material, but he needs to repackage and resell that new material to new young guys that haven't heard it yet. Rollo Tomasi is there. I don't have anything personal against Donovan or Rollo. But I'm just being honest because that's what I do. What am I supposed to do? Not say anything so that young guys get fooled? I'm being it real what the relationship is based on. So... I call them the prestigious if you see this. Right, Rollo is there because he's just trying to sell the same book to a new generation of guys. They're writing a whole new book that's real book. That's all that it is. I'm sorry to let the cat out the bag, but that's what it is. And now Donovan is so dependent on Myron that Myron gets to tell Donovan what to do, who to talk to, what to talk about. And if it ain't covering fresh and fit content, then it's talking about some fucking reality show that Min should be watching in the first place. Oh, he chases. That reality show shit is super cringe, but he also chases Kevin Sandman's a lot. He just does reaction videos to other people. Exactly, that's my point. So now it's like what they say about academia. You know, those who can't do teach, right? Well, it's like those who can't make content do response videos. And don't get me wrong, because there are a lot of content creators that their content is just responding and reacting to other content, but they're adding something. They're adding something to it. Their analyst is valuable, right? These guys, they're not saying anything that they haven't already said, and also look at the content that they're choosing to comment on and react to. It's not the type of content that has something to do with an occasion, something unique that happened, something new that happened. No, it's just let's analyze female nature and let me repeat all the same talking points. So let me use another episode of a reality TV show to repeat all the same talking points. What the fuck just happened? And then where's the solution at? Well, also too though with Kevin Sandman's, it's focused on him. Conovan, as I call him, Donovan, all he's doing is kissing ass and sucking up to Kevin. Just like he does a fresh and fit in Myron in particular, right? So it's not even, there's no analysis and there's no, it's not even like they're combative, like I've been preach. I've been preach or kind of comedians. They make fun of them. They talk about, you know, whatever the scandal is and kind of the exposed hypocrisy, whatever the specifics are, they're not kissing ass and they're not sucking up to somebody, right? And that's mostly what Donovan does. Yeah. They're dealing with current events. They're dealing with things that happened recently that are relevant in our time, right? Rather than beating a dead horse. So one of the things that was being thrown around about the man is fair a couple of years ago was they're male feminists. They're the male version of feminism or feminists. And I thought to myself, that's absolutely not what Big Tower is. That's absolutely not what the red pill is or what manuscript is. Well, guess what? That's what fresh and fit are. That's the element that they're bringing. And let me explain why I feel that way. Sure. Feminists, career feminists, the last thing that they want is equality. The last thing that they want is progression. They don't want there to be a solution. They don't want things to finally be satisfactory. They want to keep on whining and complaining about the same issues so that they can keep on getting a check. For example, if the money is in the medicine, you damn sure do not want there to be a cure. So now fresh and fit are ushering in this element into the manuscript where it's a conflict of interest for guys to get solutions. Because we want you guys to keep on coming back to complain about women. We want to keep on kicking bitches out. We want to keep on talking about the same negative relationship between men and women over and over and over again because we keep making this money every month. Okay? That's what we want. We do not want guys to go get girlfriends because then you can't watch us live, bro. If you have a girlfriend, you're out at night. You're going out at night or you're getting laid. You don't have time to sit in front of the fresh and fit show and watch it live. Please get the girl out. Frank Castle, come on Frank Castle. I hate these bitches. Frank Castle. So this is what they want. Facts, bro. Facts. Facts, facts. This is what they want. I want guys to go out and do what they do and come tune in to me with an update and say, this is improved from the Allende. I wasn't even talking to girls before your channel. Now I'm talking to them. And I'm getting feedback. I'm getting comfortable. And then a month later, the Allende, I'm actually like averaging a date a week now, right? I'm going out with girls. And then I want to finally come and say, sorry I haven't been keeping up with your channel, bro. I got a girlfriend and things are going well. Or I got this new job and I'm also starting my side business. I hardly have time to watch YouTube. That's what I want. When I train clients, they leave. They don't leave because I'm a terrible trainer. They leave because I'm actually teaching them why things work so that once they understand it, they don't even need me anymore. And they feel guilty. They're like, bro, I understand. You know what to do now. I got you where you need to be. I can go make new clients. It's not a problem. There's always somebody that needs to get in shape. Just like there's always someone that needs help with women. That's what we should be doing here. We should be bringing people in, helping them, and then sending them back out, okay? Not trying to keep them in this negative loop. It's ridiculous. I'm telling guys, stop playing video games. Stop watching porn. Stop watching YouTube. That's a conflict of interest. I don't know what I'm telling guys. The way I view it with these guys' men, the predator fraud, especially Rolo is the worst, but even Conovan and Fresh and Fit to an extent, they basically want guys on a hamster wheel, and they don't want them to get off the hamster wheel. They want them to keep paying. They're five bucks a month. They're super chats or whatever the fucking grift is. And the last thing they want is for that guy to be healthy, to be masculine, to have success with women, to be too busy to watch the show because he's getting a fucking blow job. That's the last thing they want, literally, because that stops the money train. That's all they fucking care about. I don't think, you know, Rolo is, in my opinion, the fucking stick in the head, and I have reasons for thinking that, but with Walter and Myron, I think they just want, it's all about the money. That's really what it is. They don't give a fuck about anything else. I mean, maybe the ego, Myron's brain damage and shit, but they just want the money. I think there's a way to do both. There's definitely a way to do both. If you even look at how young boys should be socialized, right? I'm a firm believer that boys and girls should be educated, separate, not co-ed, right? But that's not gonna happen. That's just what I think should happen. So I suggest that single mothers, as well as guys who might be single fathers or whatever, maybe say in your kid, if you have a son, maybe send him to a homeboy school, right? It's probably the best thing for him. Also a boy scout, military school, whatever of that school lasts, right? But the conversation that isn't being had without little boys is if a girl comes and interacts with you, there has to be a completely different protocol than a boy. If a girl comes and she pushes you or teases you or gives you an insult, you need to immediately go and tell an adult. Now, this isn't because you're snitching and you're trying to get her in trouble. This is because you're gonna protect yourself. You're gonna go ahead and let there be documentation. Let it duly be noted that this chick is messing with me so that she can go and tell on you and get you jammed up because we know the credibility is not gonna be with the little boy, right? It's gonna be with the little girl. Now, when that little boy goes and tells on that little girl, that little girl's not gonna get in trouble. She's not gonna get punished. She's not gonna get penalized, but at least it's on record. This chick was messing with me. Tell her to leave me the hell alone. It's your responsibility to tell her to leave me alone. And when that little boy says, well, that's not fair. That's when the conversation starts. Absolutely, it's not fair. Don't expect it to be fair, okay? Only expect the rules to apply when you're dealing with other boys. Well, how can I apply? Because she's a girl and you're a boy and one day you're gonna be a man and you being honest is very important. Even if it hurts you, even if it works against you, you being an honest person is very important because that's how you're gonna build your integrity. Ah, okay. You need to apply yourself. Well, that girl doesn't apply herself. She doesn't take these risks exactly, but she's a girl. You're a boy. So taking risks is gonna be part of your life. You need to learn how to assess risk. What's a good chance to take what's not? When is it worth it? When is it not worth it? Huh, right? So what happens is, boys starts realizing that what the girls do is completely different than what I do. What they're allowed to do and get away with, I will not be allowed to get away with that. The way that they can just be passive about life, I cannot be passive about life. The way that they interact with the world, I cannot interact with the world that way. Now, they're gonna say, oh, well, you're teaching little boys to hate girls. Absolutely not. I'm telling little boys to accept at an early age that you deal with women differently. And this is why they will not resent women. The reason why these guys resent women is because nobody told them that there was a difference. Nobody told them that. So when they're being treated differently and they're getting into these problems with women, they're upset now because somebody lied to them. So if they were told this at a young age, it would be the opposite conclusion. I don't resent women because I expect this from women. I don't think a person will women lie to me because women lie to themselves. I don't expect a woman to be honorable. I don't expect a woman to be loyal, but I expect it from other men and I expect it from myself. So this is how we develop them. Now, once they start getting an understanding, they're gonna go out there and they're gonna do their thing and they're not gonna need as much of this guidance from men and older guys. But when something does happen, they come back now and they say, hey, this happened, what should I do? I need some advice. I need some mentoring. I need some counseling. I need some coaching. Okay, I'm gonna try that. But then they run back out there and do it again. That's how I want it to be with the channel. That's how I want it to be with the male space as that guys can come and go and come and go as they need help and they need to talk about their feelings and their experiences. So if you're watching my show and I finally start to be able to bring women on consistently, it's hard because Myron keeps on doing things to hold me back. He's hacked my Instagram several times because he knows that's how I booked the women. He's terrified that I'm gonna build a platform that's gonna compete with him because he knows that that's the only thing that keeps them winning is that they're the only people that are guaranteed to have a table full of women every night. So God forbid someone else can provide that. Now you can no longer win by default, right? So that's the least alpha fucking thing that you can do. That makes you, that is so unintegral right there. That right there makes you not a man because not only can you not compete on an even playing field, but you hold other people back by cheating, by doing all this underhand shit so that the next man doesn't have an opportunity, right? Because you can't compete fairly. That's why you have to lie, cheat, and steal. You couldn't come up with your own fucking concepts for your show. So you have to steal talking points from someone else. You gotta go to people's conferences, all right? You have to join John Anthony's list of whatever he's guys going on to see what he's doing. Then you can run over and that's what Myron does. He comes over, he acts like he's humble, he sees what you're doing and then he runs over and he goes, does on his side. This is what they do, right? That's exactly what Conovan did. He tried to copy everything. I was just about to say that. So you see Donovan, he did it with you in your conference and then he did it with Myron. Because Donovan's relationship with me was based on how do I get from this guy when Myron got from this guy? He wanted me to bring females on his show the same way I did Myron. Now you act like you and Myron are friends, but meanwhile, you're trying to recreate his show. And when you fail at doing that, you say, well, a bug's bunny now. You can't beat him, join him, right? That's the thought process. It's a dent of thieves, man. And I've seen exactly, I forgot to mention that with Conovan, he's been bringing on a bunch of girls on his show. He'll have him by himself with five fucking women. Yeah. And whose idea, hold on, whose idea was that? That was my idea. And if anybody wants to dispute it, then I have to go ahead and act like a maniac and I have to show receipts and I have to go into the text messages, which I still have. That's an idea that I gave to Donovan and I called it Womanies Wednesdays and we already did an episode together doing that. And he was like, well, then I'll come to Miami and rent a place and you bring the girls. I said, dude, we can just do it over StreamYard. He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll do it over StreamYard. Well, he's not allowed to play with me because, you know, Myron said no. So what does he do? He goes in and starts bringing the girls on live over StreamYard himself. But again, I gave him that idea, the same way I gave Frasier the idea. It's a fucking disaster though, like with Conovan. It's just like, you know, freshman fit was better, I think when you were handling it, the women have gotten grosser and they got green hair and they're fatter and they're skankier. They pull guns on the show, their titties are flopping out, they punched Tommy so to my error, some shit. I mean, it's a fucking train wreck, which is part of why people watch it. It's a fucking train wreck. I told Tommy the opposite. When I spoke to Tommy, I gave him a vision. I said, Tommy, you've got all this, you know, negative blowback for the way you talk about black women. I said, the idea that I have is that me and you come together, I'll provide the women, I'm gonna hand pick classy, articulate black women to interact with so that we can see we can get your points across, okay? In a peaceful, positive way that we can get a dialogue going with black women and have the discussion that is so long overdue in the black community. And Tommy was like, all right, we'll talk about it. Sounds like a good idea. But then you go on freshman fit and you literally do the opposite. You do the opposite. You interact with the lowest denominator when it comes to black women. You found the most uneducated, you know, violent, toxic, obviously traumatized the black women to interact with and have this discussion. Why? Why? There's nothing that can be gained from that conversation because you didn't even speak, you didn't even have that conversation with someone that had the mental capacity to have it. So what it became was just a negative shit-throwing contest of insults. That's the last thing that the black community needs. That's the last thing that we need is for that to be the representation of black men and black women interacting on serious issues. And it pissed me off because I came to Tommy and had this conversation prior, but because I'm not Mr. 500,000 subs, because I don't have all this expensive equipment in the studio, you didn't have the conversation with who you should have had, instead you had it on Myron's platform. And that's what you got. That's what you got. You got beat up live by a black woman that puts you in a lose-lose situation. Because if you don't hit her back, you lose. If you hit her back, you lose. If you press charges, you lose. If you don't press charges, you lose. There's no win. You can't win in that scenario. Now, I think I have a conversation with him. I think this is why the black man is severe. They disowned Freshman for a while ago. O'Shea Dube Jackson, for example, he called, he didn't just call them out when a lot of this was going on. He just totally said, they need to get the fuck out of here. And he's right. And it's because of shit like this. This low brow, low key shit, lose-lose kind of shit, the drama shit. That I'm not black, so I'm not like part of what's going on with this. But I see what you're saying. Like these kind of, they need these positive conversations to happen. And this is the fucking opposite of that. And that's really obvious. And whether it's for money or cloud or fame or whatever the fuck like, it's just stupid. I mean, in general, in general. So even if I'm having a conversation with a chick that, you know, she might not subscribe to the term feminist, but she has a lot of the ideology or the characteristics, right? I'm not gonna try to make an example out of her by being rude or disrespectful to kick her off. I'm gonna be stern, of course, but I'm just trying to at least make it a teachable moment. If I can't get through to her as an individual, I still want to at least make it a teachable moment so guys have a better understanding of how to interact or deal with these women, right? These guys have no interest in any type of, you know, positive improvement. They don't want to show a good image of anything. And it's like, but hold on, you have this platform, you have to be responsible because you're not helping if you're just gonna put bad examples on. If you're only gonna put women on to fight or embarrass them, you're not helping as you're actually hurting us. You're hurting us because what you're doing is you're allowing mainstream not to take it seriously. You're allowing mainstream to say that we're massaging us and to say that we are negative and to say that we're ambushing women. If you handle it like, say, a Jordan Peterson, it's really hard to say that about him, but they still try. Look how hard they try to make what the future is about to be. Kevin Samuels does a good job too. Like I've been critical of him a little bit, but in general, I think he has good conversations with black women and stuff. And women in general, he's good at telling them what they need to hear. Yeah. Right, so what I'm trying to say is even if you handle it in the best way possible, even if you have a shirt and a tie on, you don't curse, you don't raise your voice and you say, stream the patient. They're still gonna try to tell you you're a massager and they're still gonna tell you all these things. So the only way that we're gonna change the tide, and I don't even expect things to all of a sudden get better or for us to change the mainstream, but for us to be able to change guides, for us to be able to help guys at an increasing rate, what would have to happen is we'd have to show a better representation of our side of it. Every opportunity possible. Fresh and fit have a huge opportunity to, and what do they do? Fucking, Myron wears the same thing every day, looking like a frat boy that doesn't even shower, right? Fresh wears this goofy shit every day. So you don't present yourself well in how you dress and how you carry yourself. So that's out the window. Then they're goofing off and insulting each other and playing around like a bunch of kids. So you're not showing any type of maturity. Then they hardly wanna talk about mature topic, serious issues, so you're not helping us there. Then when you bring women on, you don't bring women that are prepared to have intelligent mature conversations. So you don't help us there. You know what I mean? It's just like, you're not helping in this situation. I wanna add, they are so far from helping, it makes me think, and I'm gonna file some requests now from the government, it really makes me think, not Walter, but Myron is still secretly on the fucking some stupid fucking payroll from Homeland Security to fucking for community. Like, that's why I think that he was a Fed as we know. And I think he still fucking is. I said that a long time ago, people told me I was crazy. I said Myron is a plant. And they said, why do you think he's a plant? I said, first of all, who could come out be so controversial on such a major platform and not have been blocked and canceled? Come on, you gotta be kidding. He's gotten away with way too much. And then if you look at how things started, how fast they moved, I just don't believe it. You know what I mean? I don't believe it. I think that he definitely- Sketch is fucking shady. I think the same people that are like behind promoting and pushing some of these career feminists, also behind him. I think it's like a high-gillian dialect. And what they're doing is, they're using this platform to further separate men and women. That's what I think they're doing because the feminists, ladies first, they've convinced these young women to be anti-marriage, to be anti-relationship, to be anti-male, right? And now I think they're starting to work on the other side now. Okay, how can we get these guys to be anti-marriage, anti-relationship, anti-woman, so that we can divide and conquer and get everybody, what you call it, everybody in the, what is this new virtual reality they're trying to put on us? Oh, metaverse, metaverse shit. Yeah, right, right. Let's get everybody ready for the metaverse now, right? Because they're gonna have no desire to interact with each other in real life anymore, right? So that's what I think it's about. They can say it's conspiracy theory. They can say it's crazy, whatever. I haven't been wrong yet, so we'll see. Yeah, well, hey, man, I know you gotta go. I really appreciate your time today on the show. I'd love to talk to you again sometime. I wanna have you actually come in studio here to 21 Studios and be able to talk in person. If you don't mind driving to Orlando. Yeah, why don't you look at it? You're allowed. Orlando. Yeah, we might have to set something like that up. Yeah. Yeah, we'll do something. We're close enough. We'll figure something out. Yeah, and hopefully, you know, I'd love to have you speak at 21 this year, man. So we'll talk more about that in October than Orlando. Yeah, I'm gonna be trying to put something together that's gonna be impactful, that's gonna be meaningful, because it's an opportunity that I wanna take advantage of, and I really do wanna help these guys. I genuinely wanna help these guys, and I'm trying to figure out what's the way to do both. You know, what's the way to get guys great results, and they still tune into the show. I'm giving guys good ideas, good things to go out there and try. You know, it's kinda like, real quick before you do, it's kinda like when we had these sitcoms in the 90s, like Martin. You know, you would tune into Martin every time it came on. You'd watch it, you'd get the jokes, and then the next day in school in the cafeteria, you'd be repeating the jokes. You'd watch Michael Jordan play basketball. You know, at night, the Bulls would be playing, and the next day, you'd be trying all of that on your friends on the basketball court, or in the gym. So I want guys to kind of have that type of element in the manager at least on my channel, where you can see me interacting with women, see me taking women on dates, see how I'm doing it, and then you can be inspired to go do that in real life. And let's just have some fun with it, but also let's educate with it, let's be a little bit more responsible, and be more receptive to the ideas coming in from other content creators as well as, you know, the band base. Yeah, sounds good, man, I'm all about it. I think we're very much in the same page on a lot of these issues. Thanks for your wrap up, everybody watch and make sure you go in the description, click a link to Authentic Alphas, find him on YouTube. He's got a big channel, it's getting bigger, and I hope you guys subscribe. I end it once again, thanks for your time, and I appreciate you coming on the show today, and we'll talk to you soon. Everybody else, see you next weekend. Thank you guys, I'm out here.