 Hello there friends welcome back it is the Thursday edition of The Bunker and I'm actually really happy to follow up with you from well Monday's edition of The Bunker where we actually worked on a Sony this lovely Sony PVM 14.05 and today we're going to test it out test out the work that I did on that stream and to help me out I do have a special guest and it's not just the PVM friends please welcome in Zaz here we are yeah good to see is all we've all recovered we're feeling good danger zone we're taking the highway highway to the danger zone yeah I've really spruced this thing up a little bit right let's do that we've got the chat let's say load over on the chat yeah got some people we got Ronnie Jake looking good Jesse you see in the star jammer that's right and then yep and James Boone welcome back yep wonderful little day here that's right so as things get rolling and the show gets going please everybody do us favor hit the like button so that the world will know that you you're welcome in here to the danger zone this is this is going to be reteased as the most dangerous live stream on YouTube right and it's not just because you know anyone could be drunk or Steve's gonna cut his hair or Volta's gonna get his dick out for numerous reasons for actual health and safety reasons this could be the most dangerous stream ever yeah well not just this one but yeah most of them right anytime we'll have this I didn't even tease this one though so we'll see we'll see what happens after the holidays but yes yes thanks for coming in thanks for stopping by what's going on over there in your uh lovely land Euro land what I have been spent my day doing I set my day testing the Mr. Laggy and that's the lag the dishonor the lag tester that's a small add-on for the mister so if anyone's you've probably seen the lose retro source video of course all you switched on dudes have oh yeah but uh it's basically if you've got the time sleuth uh it's mister version of that so there's a very small little dongle and it connects into your mister that and it works basically the same mechanism as the time sleuth um the little dongle is a little photo receptor you put it up to the screen uh there is a special mister core that generates the flashing signal the the white bars you put it up to the screen and it tells you that round trip info so uh wika waka who created these was kind enough to send me one and it works well works good uh over htmi everything is good uh what I was just testing here is I couldn't quite get it to work over analog yet but I know that's just some setting that I'm missing so I'm working on that next and I mean analog is just really we know it's zero lag but it's just to verify the results but uh and I've written a script I'm gonna make a video I swear to god I'm gonna make a video about it I will finally make a video uh just sort of comparing and Lou made a great one uh just show you how to use the mister laggy and my one is going to be a little bit more comparing the time sleuth and the mister laggy and why you might want to use one and why you might want to use the other so yeah that's what I spent the afternoon doing it's a great solution and if you've got the the basic summary is if you've got a mister get a mister laggy it's like 13 bucks plus shipping or something like that get one it's so cheap and if you can help you to understand what your uh lag is it's awesome if you don't have a mister well then it's not a very good idea because it's far too expensive yeah yeah right but but I love that thing and and then uh or I haven't gotten one because my only mister I have right now is the mister kade yeah so I don't and that's not going anywhere I'm not you know using that for that particular thing but I've been in contact with you know like what's I want to get a good one a good mister setup that's a good basically run around and kind of a test unit and the mister laggy would be awesome in that like you say and then be able to test all these analog different analog signals and the analog uh different cores kind of in one of the 240p test suite and I was looking and it's like the one that ivory has looks really nice too that's about to come out so bob's like wait wait wait you know so I think he's I saw ivory had a retro castle from aliexpress has a new um jamma version coming out but I've been using uh his version to do all these tests because that's the thing about the the mister laggy is not only do you need a d10 nano but it uses that general ioport so you need an iobord as well um so it's like double that's why it's not really good just to buy it for it uh so well it's good to have options at that because it's been forever was just great uh just the um I can't even think of the name just the original and it was out of stock forever also sure and so my basic my basic conclusion coming from this is like they're both they both produce accurate results so it's not like one is bad or anything so it's like when do you want to use one and when the other thing the time sleuth is great because it's much more portable it's just a single little box you can power it on usb power and i've got that video where I took it into a 1800 seat theater and I was lag testing it on professional uh projectors so the the mister sorry the time sleuth is great if you need to move maybe you're going to your local tournament fighting game tournament and you want to test the monitors there that's where it's very good the other use case is if you're sitting at home you've already got a mister you just need to lag test a couple of devices in that case the mister laggy for only 10 bucks is the ideal solution so they both have quite good use cases I think yeah I think you're right so that's uh well that'll be cool yeah good job see nice to see something uh I'm uh so yeah this basically is long story short this is Bob's pvm which has been around the world and back again so I have had this thing gosh oh man go back a couple years to retro world expo not this one but the prior one I went to met up with Bob and he's just throwing all these crts my way to do stuff with I have no idea what all them are but this was one of them and it didn't it had it had issues where it didn't really work like it would uh power on and then immediately power right off so I went through I did all this stuff I did the pat save on pat full kit on it and it still didn't work like it and then I called pat he's like try all this other stuff I did all that and it still didn't work and then I was like well man there's something wrong on this main board that I can't figure out so he eventually found a spare donor board of this pvm and then I went and installed that board for him live at this last retro broad expo yeah I remember that yeah yeah yeah and so right and then uh so I installed that and then once uh I installed it we fired it up and it took forever to turn on like the screen took a long time I wasn't sure about it I said look just let it go for a minute sometimes it hasn't been going for years could just not come on so we let it go finally showed up an image after a while we're like yeah yeah it worked so had fun and but Bob was like hey it still takes too long to show an image hmm so what if you see that takes too long to show an image what does your mind go to when you're problem solving this well that's the well first off that's the good thing if you want to go back and check out I mean most people already checked out the last stream probably but on that stream I turned it on and we timed it to show an image and it still didn't show a very good image it was like um still kind of dim but it took a good almost 10 minutes for it to warm up all the way and show the image and so at this stage you've you've replaced the caps and you've also changed the main board is that as I've understood is that right yeah so I did think but I didn't so well the cap kit and restoration kit goes on the neck board and this one has a deflection card over here which I showed but anyway the the main board that is the donor board had not been recapped it had not been serviced it was donor board so that's what first I was like well it's either the tube or that donor board and what I had done was I had a 20l5 in the shop I want to say it was three four months back and it had I turned it on and it took it took like a minute to show an image and I was like okay and then I did the cap kit on it and then it showed the image right away and so I was like well I wonder if this is you know if Bob's is like the worst case scenario I said if this works for this maybe it'll work for this other one so that's what I did I had this I took out the main board okay so this is these boards were serviced at a prior time these other ones like this has been this is the deflection card it's been recapped so it's still this new arm oh yes yes we talked about this and then neck board's good everything else but the main board down here that it's a pain in the neck to get out you have to take everything out so I did that I was gonna ask is that your your hesitancy to recap it straight away is just that it's a fucking pain and there's loads of caps and it's gonna take forever and it's a long it takes a lot of yeah it takes all like an hour to get it apart it's a pain right just to get it apart yeah it's not I mean it's not very fun and then you got to put it back together you know so what I've done is I did all this on the stream there and then the only thing I did after the stream was I cleaned it the rest inside I cleaned the outside and then I've reassembled it I let it sit the entire day and then I posted on twitter where I power tested it on there and it went straight on and then I was like oh it's working but I didn't I wasn't sure if it was still not cold enough so anyway I let I turned it right off and it's been sitting since so it's it's been like when I turned it on to power tested for the twitter shots that was probably total of 30 seconds powered on and then just left to turn back off to get cold again and it's been two full days since then so hopefully it's been cold enough to not okay so we're gonna you're gonna test it yeah I'm gonna try it powered on I have not done it since that last one and hopefully it'll power up and show a screen image if it doesn't then it still could have an issue okay this is a big moment right so I'm gonna plug it up but so the background music is just the easy jazz playlist here okay that's what it is Steve loves me easy jazz it just makes it easier than trying to figure out what everybody likes for music so we're plugging it in all right this is it's been cold for two days which is very interesting and there's very deep questions here already about like how long does it take to be cold so to say like how long does it need to be off for to be sure that it's off off off but okay is it on are you no no no what I'm gonna do is I'm actually gonna get I'm gonna get a uh sorry I'm going to get a video signal ready here oh yes yes yes and I'm gonna test that use the pc core graphics okay classic classic all right hang on one second I left one thing running too that I shouldn't leave running that left a boiler running all right he's gonna go there so it's interesting that when diagnosing these crt problems that these electronics I want to say capacitors and other electronic components in there could hold charge for a number of time that he's sort of got to leave it for a day two days to make sure that it's like 100 and this uh ties into a lot of the advice Steve has given you about uh how to discharge a tube and even if uh crt has been sitting there for a number of days weeks months maybe even a year you should still be cautious of it and it could still give you a little zap so that's why Steve is leaving it for a number of days but god damn that uh makes it difficult to test this stuff I feel like I'm testing a problem and between cycles I need to wait two days god damn this is the life of the crt well yeah it's when you when you're uh gotta let it cool just make sure that it's not still I don't know it's not still got the issue almost sure it's okay Asian love potato Steve's a professional here okay yeah we're good we're good so what I what I plan to do here we appreciate it though is uh test it and then we're going to um if it works we're gonna do some adjustments I'm gonna close it back up and then I'm gonna let it sit for over a week and get dead cold and then hmm kind of try it again to make sure nothing happens so to start I'm gonna test my uh set right back here which you can kind of see not really oh it's connected to that oh that's the the pc engine is it yeah so first I've got it connected to this okay so this is to ensure the console works that we know that the console is yeah there we go okay yeah oh you can see your flash cart yeah what do you got an ever drive in there looks like an ever drive in you there's an ever drive in here so let me I know it's up baby okay so let's start your signal works this is the first thing to to verify let's just look at all right thank goodness the boiler's done all right let this load up just make sure all right wait till we get some good game graphics you really you know how to build tensions where you could just turn this bloody thing on but no I'm gonna some more tension building because I forgot to plug in I forgot to plug in the cables anyway okay so we're gonna start over here thankfully I've just got composites to start okay simple composite simple simple I was doing this you can see my bvm is on in the background and I have a what is it like a vga to scott cable that I've made myself it's having color issues so I had to get around the back I've now got a vga to b and c uh so anyway that's why my my it's a little bit washed out on the screen but my bvm is looking nice there oh yeah here we go okay all right this is the moment really is it let's just see let's do it baby so these will light up pretty instantaneously powering on all right right now I'm going to watch this time let them up up up let them up up up I didn't turn the power on okay the tension the bvm I see a little light in the bottom there oh we see the yep menu light up very nice look at that hey that was it that's good that's good that's it yeah that's it that's nice that's immediate right there you go it actually looks pretty good that's great that's straight away my bvm takes longer than that takes like even a moment like a few more seconds so loving this yeah so this is and it's most the time it doesn't it's got more to do with like the cathode heating up I think and for some reason this is more of a an issue in the power block but the power block in this monitor is moved all the way into the main board it's just a pain to get to whereas like a bvm you just pull the power block out and you can get it that way but yes thank you everybody this is looking good all right so this is great yeah I think it's so what are your steps from here you said now you want to leave it off for a longer period of time just a double double double check well no before I do that what I'd like to do is go ahead and make some make adjustments to it like okay adjust it to the starting position basically here's what's gonna happen with this thing okay this is what's gonna happen with this pvm once it's done okay this thing it's in really good shape and once I get it serviced now it's going to be available for purchase on consignment uh and it's bobs it's not so if you're interested in it the first people that were gonna swing at it are going to be on the discord and uh anyway you know it's going to have all the goodies it's going to be a good shape ready to go fully cleaned up you know all the good stuff plus that new bracket plus all the caps done but that's eventually what will happen with this one okay it's gonna be and you're gonna do what you usually do you make a nice google document you have pictures and a full service history which is a tremendous part of what you're doing with top service people like yourself so okay so we're gonna go now Ronnie talking to Ronnie on the stream Ronnie there was it seemed to be problems with the main board and uh Steve had to do a full recap of the main board and the reason he doesn't do that not a full recap of partial recap yeah yeah it's a more like a targeted recap yeah because there's a lot of caps that are big exactly it takes so long to do it right yeah and it takes so long to do that it's that's where it's not worth your time well it would be worth your time if somebody really wanted to pay like you know 1500 dollars to have you work on it this thing to recap the whole thing sure but that's not that's not really normal that would end up being like the price of the whole monitor would be that much exactly so okay so you're gonna add all that together sell it and then right so put it all together and I think this is one of the great things where even though it wasn't work in the beginning I mean we've literally seen in real time this being service this being worked on that uh I don't know a better way to know that a quality second hand piece of electronics or anything is good like imagine if you bought an old car the old car is always the example right the the old hot rod or something yeah is the analogy imagine if the mechanic had livestreamed the entire maintenance process you would be like yeah I get it I understand what he went through I know everything yeah that's a good point okay here's what we're gonna do too I'd like to go in here and see if we can figure out I ran through this last time where we did the color bars okay not that one this one this one okay okay and then I did that auto chroma adjustment remember I want to try that on this monitor and start with that first it's if I can find that in the menu okay let's do it so I'm gonna just pull up let me move my microphone a little bit better since it's on an arm anyway yeah pull it over just a little bit closer is good okay so we're going for that auto calibration on the color so now basically the point is you're doing menu level calibrations yeah checks and balances and I'm going to start with this cali or check on this level before I do really anything else and then we'll get into some checks and we're kind of we'll work on things like well we'll do this all systematically so as we go so let's go in here and see it's a little hard to see with the I know right background so right here is where it says auto chroma and phase oh yep okay let's see on maybe I hit on and then I hit start okay wait oh I just saw it do something look it's do you see it's changing progress progress let's do baby we've been through this adjust okay let's try one more thing then let me try something else adjustment error look at that let me we know the signal is good so it's something no it doesn't really matter the signal just might be easy or might work better on the older equipment you know because this isn't really the right that's the problem is we don't have the real equipment that is this testing is based on so if that test gets more precise all of a sudden this may not be good enough right so a typical back in the day a sonny technician would have a piece of hardware that would be producing the particular test pattern that that auto adjust would be looking for cool correct all right so let's try again let's I've reset it and then what I've done is I've turned off there's like a comb filter or something on this one of these items I'm using um oh I forgot I need to check and make sure I've done everything else correctly too mm-hmm okay let's go back okay I'm going back up enter I'm sitting start again and we'll see if it does anything different okay progress yep no adjustment error okay with that have now by looking at that screen even before I am I can see you need to do adjustments to the geometry yeah it's a little bit off to the side would that be affecting it at all that should not so much I'm just going to make sure that the rest of this stuff is set to normal stuff um yeah so everything seems normal in here or the right thing on that level uh let's make sure that I hit reset on this okay well we'll try with another uh system or we'll try this system on component in a second all right so what do you oh you're connected with composite right now you said composite composite video right and the problem is is that this is not the the um the other console I have is not nearly as clean as this even mm there was a question from the chat what are you going to do with the you said that you replaced the main board that you pulled one out and you put this one in yeah what are you going to do with the original what are your thoughts on that well it's just in the graveyard here so here's the deal uh there's actually four different variations of this pvm so you have to note which variation you have because some of the things are different and how you know is on the back there's a label and it up here and it tells you a dash it says l5 dash whatever and this is a dash four so like oh found another dash four so it's only internal there are variations of the the pvm and you don't know just from looking from the outside not generally no you have to open it up because it doesn't say that dash on there and it was on other ones but there weren't this one does have some variations on it though it's a good question yeah I mean so it is if you're looking for that board for some reason uh you know you can reach out to me um through patreon but I'm not it's just in the graveyard here now and you'd have to check if you need a four and I don't know what's wrong with that board I never could figure it out all right so yeah like you said let's go check I just want to take a quick look at the geometry well we've got it jump it's gonna be difficult okay all right so let's turn this I keep forgetting like what the commands are sometimes so this is too wide let's go to get into this one you just pull up this regular menu of same menu do gauze and enter at the same time oh we really should add Keith come on too bad he has to actually work during the day and actually figure out no like us right okay do this no there's not two bombs that just sit around doing things like this all day he actually has a job all right I'm just like I do this many there's nothing so this is where you get into and you can adjust the deflection it's a second it says deflection up here it's a second in here let's let's wait one of the things I do need to make sure is if it's tilted at all is the screen tilted at all so I do need to bring down the vertical size a little bit and that way I'll be able to see the line because I think it's tilted a little bit high on this side and a little low in this corner and man if I could only zoom in closer maybe I could show you what I'm gonna be looking for here as I light away from the screen a little bit and help it out let's see if I can zoom into the danger zone here so whoops that's going to pull it way over all right we're looking at that geometry in the corner yeah let me go back so what I may do is I may just go over and do it where it's just that going back to the chat fried zombie it's very hard to know particular what's in this repair store it's got to they got pvms they've got any professional stuff there there's going to be a mad dash there's two 20l fives in the pile so I think just go for a brother whatever you got there pick it up if you can get it at a good price really depends on the price doesn't it tell us more fried zombie about what is this yeah I don't even know what you're talking about that's crazy yeah he said there's an electronics repair store that's been around for 70 years that just went belly up dang I wonder what's so this was it I recently I posted about when I went to the I went to the I'm gonna find this in a second but I went to the dump to throw away so you can't recycle styrofoam okay okay there's no there's like it's not recycled or just recyclable but it's apparently like a crt it's too expensive that they don't let you recycle it here so you have to take that to the the dump I had so much styrofoam from all the pvms I bought the last two years I didn't throw out it was like two of car loads filled of just and so I took it there and I showed this video of there's like these it's just looks like freaking Humpty Dumpty it's just wall and wall after wall after wall and they're a little bit zigzagged and it'll say like glass here 10 here and it just one says a lot of electronics and I showed this short video if you look over it's literally a ledge that people just push these electronics over into a dumpster and it's like 10 feet below and so everything just goes down there and uh so I showed everybody inside there and there's all these like CRTs that have been thrown in there's two huge ones were in there and a ton of flat screen just crap and like little fans and uh so that was that was all there and then you know they don't let you people like oh can you go get in there and it's no they don't let you go salvage in there it's all completely off limits over there let's see if I can find this stupid landing setting all right okay we're gonna find it this is a really great pvm a multi format this is a really valuable thing and and this is one of the things where while I can say oh I love it that I got this bvm going on in the background here it's a beautiful thing it's a thousand lines it's still only 15 kilohertz and I think I'm a little bit jealous of having a pvm that can do multi format like it would be very useful to be able to do 480p on this thing yeah you're right all right let's get in here I've got it finally set up where I'm going what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna first reduce the size of this in here and you can see as I reduce that that line appears more oh yeah yep yep yep if we look here you can tell there's like a big chunk of the line and there's no line over here so that yes okay so that's a this is like a tilt issue tilt issue and most other here's the thing most other pvms let's see sometimes this works again this is a little bit like that um it should work but just a little bit like that thing we were talking about a second ago with the the color calibration thing it might have an issue so hopefully that's not the case let's uh let's try it we're gonna go down here a little bit yep a little bit tilt so we've got some tilt we're gonna go back over here to one back out up and we're going to stay in this we're gonna go to focus and we're gonna scroll down below where you can't see to a setting here let me go back to us it's the setting right here called landing so I hit that so this is our landing set yeah explain landing I've well landing is just supposed to be whoops just supposed to be that screen tilt so if this was a 20 inch I know for sure this landing adjustment as you adjusted it should tilt this deflection as opposed to me having to get back there and like the other ones where I have to actually physically turn the um well physically turn it there's I think there's far more menu options here than I've got in my bvm as well there's a lot of good things to be said for for these high level pvms over the you know bvms particularly all right I'm actually adjusting it right now and it's very fine man I gotta I gotta what's happened is it looks like I need to go down a little bit on my I need to go down a little bit more on the vertical setting right and going to the the chat here Jake I agree that if this was a consumer set I'd be like this is awesome leave it call it a day uh and we don't need to say like and certainly we don't mean to say like oh every set needs to be this perfect it's just more that on a high level pbm like this on a high level professional one of these options do exist so hey we may as well have a crack at try to really fine tune it but um I gotta admit if I if it was just me and I was screwing around with this fine and I'm gonna go up on this and let's see if it actually makes this balance out to where it kind of goes into the middle and more you see more of it over hopefully yeah we definitely need a little and less over here we need to hide some of this and add more of it over here so I'm going to go up and hopefully that will change as we see on the screen right going to the chat fried zombie what is a ld player what do you mean by l oh laser disk you mean that laser this player mac keyboard and a laser player uh is that how do you is that just stuff that you want or uh is there some sort of list or somehow you know the inventory that this place has why particularly I'd love a latest player and there's there's almost zero friggin laser disc players in Europe I would probably have a better time flying to Japan and putting a laser disc player in my suitcase and bringing them on back here than I would defining them almost anywhere in continental Europe well unfortunately on this l5 it is not this this 14 inch one it's not going to let me adjust that which I was afraid of that being that it's a 14 inch one I mean overall I mean when I look okay the top I agree now and do this is a little bit off but the bottom looks fairly okay yeah that is true like much more symmetrical at the bottom yeah I'd still like to have it just a touch true true your perfectionist I mean it will throw well I hear good you know that is a good point because then if I do that it's going to throw it off down here so one corner I always tell people this even on the best ones it's like one corner is always a little off right so yeah maybe let's talk about some other let's let's let's now if this were to work you know that would have been nice but it's not it's not really making much of it yeah I think it's looking pretty good you're a perfectionist we know this yeah all right so what I want to do too is I want to bring down well actually here's what I want to do first on that's all I'm going to do on this I'm going to change now to the HD restaurant vision cables and give us an upgraded image okay let's do that for for more adjustments since we've kind of tested that with composite video sure so now we're going to try component yeah we're going to plug that in see if the auto color calibration works off that so we're taking that off it's interesting that thing with CRT is that depending on the signal the menu will also get a little bit screwed up like you saw the way the menu changed yeah it's just now right now there's no signal in it and it's going over and it's shown it in 480i and then if I put that 240p in there it'll drop it over in like 240p mode okay hmm all right yeah interesting oh bobs in the stream bobs getting all uppity about his pvm he's like is it perfect why are the sides perfect all right bobs settle down mate okay we'll get some component I've got a little delay here it's somehow the Estonian chat's faster than mine yeah I don't know I'm seeing who knows the loud oh now I'm the fast one freaking finally only when it's being you then it can adjust but it was somehow racist this is in that stream with Roger this is a problem hey right if the European stream this the streets are going on for long enough I know a lot of people that you know a lot of our normal watchers aren't here yet today or hanging out but we uh I'm gonna be honest with you I I went I went too far on that bottle of I mean I went too far on that bottle because Lewis I was like I blacked out man and like I'm like I'm I've it's been so long since I woke up like that it brought me here we could do a little fun vortex story time break here so you blacked out a little you're still you you fell asleep downstairs somewhere in the bunker here yes thankfully right so this is this is the weird thing I wake up you know feeling awful that morning and uh I'm I'm like so I looked out of my oh man I'm like I slept naked I had a shirt my green shirt on that I was wearing I was like I never sleep without pants on I'm like what the hell so then I come back and I look in the bunker and right here on the desk for some reason there's an uneaten fresh chocolate chip cookie just sitting here I don't remember any of this and uh then I was like the dog starts coming around messing around I'm like oh man he is way too worked up what the heck's going on so I get up and I go look over out in the hallway and I was like oh no there was like a big pile of liquid right I'm like my goodness I must have gotten up and just like for some reason there's a bathroom right here but I just must have taken a blacked out leak on the floor right here and I'm like thank god I didn't go upstairs and my kids are you peed in your own house on the floor so I have to clean it all up and then I had that freaking two I had that I had that like psych ward haircut because I looked in the mirror and I mean I had like bush hair here and like I was like trying to hide my head from everybody and uh oh my god so I'm like oh my gosh this is like what I'm dealing with and then and you sure it wasn't the dog I mean because it was like a puddle that was bigger than the dog okay bigger it's pretty big puddle okay this is so what you just like a few clean it up like straight away yeah yeah and you yeah yeah I cleaned right before the missus comes down thanks for the laundry's all down here so I did all that all right and before the missus comes down and sees a secret yeah nobody knew that happened but yeah I was like oh my gosh what and then I was thinking I was like I there's a point where I'm like oh man we turned that thing off and I barely remember anything after the show went off the air and then I was like oh I drink way way way too much of that bourbon and oh we had a great time ladies and gentlemen we had uh we appreciate you hanging out with Roger's stream where we did the charity that was three hours in itself or whatever it was I forget now and uh yeah we hung out talking like the after the cool performer after party afterwards where Volta almost literally got his dick out uh and we hung around for at least another hour afterwards with these dudes pissed out of their brains I was laggy one yes we know two sobering up because it was about 6am at this stage so while these farts are all pissing all over the walls I was I was becoming more and more brutally sober as the conversation went on but component video it's green sure my god if you have absolute epilepsy please don't watch this but um what that that did I think it's a component video right yeah maybe it's a setting yeah oh it's an rgb that's the uh by the way bob you're the man thanks for all the killer youtube content bob he actually means that you're so boring that he was gonna die that's what he means by killer youtube content okay oh look colors we've got colors got a so yeah it was just because it was in this component it was just because it was in um that other mode so uh yeah but this reminded me of a time when I was actually in college and here we go and I used to I had a problem with uh wet in the bed this component all right there's more I had a wet not the bed wet the floor I guess you could say right oh gosh so um let's go in here and we'll try some test tools as we like listen to jazz and and look at a 240p test suite screen and talk about uh my fiasco all right so yeah this was I should have been gosh flashback here this would have been like 2001 would have been the year to 2002 and it uh 2001 2002 because it would have been like right around I was a freshman in college would have been right around uh September 11th happened around this time period right so I was a young man trying to find my way and I was like not so back then too right it's because I hadn't been on my own and um I just turned 18 like and then within the week I turned 18 I went and moved into a dorm room by myself uh and I got to meet some guys that were on the swim team and they took me in hung out with them I think I might have said that before but anyway um one time I had some friends come into town and want to hang out that were from my high school and didn't go to school where I went at this university makes sense right they come in for some reason want to hang out okay sure so a couple of guys were in a fraternity they're like oh let's go over to that frat house and I was like guys I don't know you know if that's the greatest idea you know you're not in the frat you go over to the frat house frat party it's kind of lame anyway we went um and uh I mean you know just I just drank too much beer and I went and you know these guys were staying at other places around there but I went back I was still living in the dorms and I got back to my dorm room I mean I would you know you hike in through campus like this was the thing I was like walk three miles over hills to get back and forth to parties back then there was no uber or cab it's a big campus show well the party was away anyway right I got back to the uh dorm room and uh I just remember this you know you there's an R a person was called an RA or assistant or something it was basically an upper a couple year upperclassmen who got like free room and board and they were basically the one in charge of the floor because it would have been like a floor that had two people to a room and there were probably 12 rooms on the floor and this one guy he got free room and board and he got his own room like no no roommate right so he was out there at like two in the morning randomly and he's he's he lived two doors down from me so he's out there randomly two in the morning writing stuff on his announcement board and he said I just came I just remember coming in and like seeing him and then getting and I remember like you know it took me like 30 seconds to unlock my door you know I'm so like we can't get the key of my door door in front of this guy and he's seems like watching me so I go in the room and I slam the door shut maybe he just sat there and um so I don't remember anything after that I remember going to bed next thing I know I wake up like and a little while later and there's somebody pushing me on the shoulder and it's this lady and I've like I've never seen this lady in my life and she's like hello are you okay are you okay and then the r.a. is right behind her and they're in my room like they came into the room and they're like yeah I'm fine what the heck's going on we're like you're all right oh we thought you had alcohol poison I was like why would you think that no I'm fine and I was like I was like okay what the heck is going on here and like they're in my room I'm like no I'm okay thank you very much I'm fine I'm like to go back to bed and they're like okay well uh do you realize what you did and I was like no I don't know what that's what I basically said I said give you have a problem please go ahead in my room we can talk about this later and they left the room and so I get back and I and I'm just waking up and looking around I look at my my phone and this is back when you had a phone in your dorm room and it had voicemails on it it had like eight voicemails they were all from the r.a. and they were like they're like nutter nutter what are you doing that's what you call me my last nutter what are you doing nutter and it would be like hang up another one nutter what did you why would you think that's okay to do nutter what did you do that for hang up nutter I am not cleaning this up I am not cleaning this up I'm not and it'd be like over and over again it's like how did you piss the floor and then so that's what it was it was like the six ways like you piss the floor I'm gonna call the people then they're gonna come up here and so I'm like holy shit and I look out I open my door and this is an indoor dorm I open my door and there's just huge puddle out of the hallway in front of my door where it's like a hotel room you know there's not carpet it's like tile but it's just like a giant piss puddle right in front of the door and I'm like what am I done and for some reason I didn't even want to go clean it so I didn't so I'm sitting there I go sit back down and I'm like man this is embarrassing what the hell did I do that lady was in here and uh so she uh next thing I know this was the good part I I get another knock on the door while I'm trying to recompose myself and this time it's a campus cop and it's the lady and the RA and the lady's like oh I was afraid you were like the way you talked to us I thought you were like gonna hurt yourself and I was like I'm fine I am fine and so the cop looks at me and he said uh did you have some fun tonight and the funny thing is Louis they're all standing on the perimeter of this puddle of piss so they are not like I'm standing in the doorway and there's a huge puddle of piss and they're like in a circle pattern around the puddle like the perimeter of the puddle and uh I'm like yeah I uh I don't know you know I had some beers I'm not gonna lie and the cop and I mean I was under I was 18 the cops said well where were you and I said oh I was at this fraternity party I said it was this frat and I set off the frat name and he said all right well you're okay now and I said yes sir I'm fine and he said all right ma'am well there's nothing to see here and I couldn't believe it he literally like was like all right he says he's okay so uh that's the end of it and he walks off that's it doesn't say another word and she stands there just in shock that I didn't get like arrested or something why would you get is it 21 a drinking age or something why would you get 21 drinking age fucking americans we did 21 bullshit but yes go ahead so yeah that was the deals it was 21 drinking age so I was only 18 and this thing is like uh the my cables are just like glitching out like yeah I was gonna say it's flickering a little bit I think even your monitor is reacting to this story Steve it's literally even the monitor is like holy shit you peed on the floor this is an insane story it lost sink that's how crazy this story is there we go let's get let's keep bobbing it so yeah like I uh the cop leaves the lady is just standing there and I'm like all right I'm gonna go back to bed and I just closed the door yeah and uh I went back to bed and the guy who is the RA he wound up cleaning the piss I don't even know why I didn't clean the piss like I was I was such a dick moved by me to make him clean up the piss so he was not very happy with me like the rest that year so so you've got a history of this is what we've established I haven't done it since then oh haven't done it since then so that happened when you're 18 illegal 22 years now what's the 44 it's happening again so but yeah that's uh so that was that was a flashback to the you're reliving your youth is a true midlife crisis that you are peeing on the floor just like you did when you were in college so that's like that's what that's what that all was reminded me of that lovely night right okay so but this time you but this is a beautiful arc a redemption arc you cleaned it up for yourself now when you're 44 so you've learned right we're trying to say I'm 44 I'm only 40 a 40 40 I thought you're 40 oh I'm 44 you're 40 okay I'm sorry I'm sorry part of me part of me makes clearly makes a big difference to this story um I'm sorry oh yes you can pee on the floor you're only 40 my bad yeah come on we're all allowed to pee on the floor when you're 40 so you had to clean it up for yourself finally after I had the boy tree the other night is that right you you did it you have the mop out or whatever the yeah I just like a towel yeah and washed it but then um I mean I couldn't move I was so in so much pain my head was throbbing I yeah I remember it was like so this was the good thing my wife was happy uh even though my brutality because she got she had been applying for a job that they wanted her to apply for at the school it was a better job and um she was like I don't know why you know usually they get back really quickly on these job things and there was just a hold up at HR and so that night when we were streaming they said her an email saying that she had gotten she was there pick so she's happy perfect time right so she was happy about all this and then the next day so she doesn't care about the faint smell that's sort of waft and upwards from the bunker it's oblivious she's happy she's got a job it's like it's a basement you know it smells funny all the time anyway there's like so it's uh but they're um yeah so I did all that she went and took my daughter to dance and then went to uh took the kids to like a musical nearby at a small theater and I just got to lay there and and try to get back to normal there was a time where I was literally I was like I need something to eat and I was like I need to go get some shit food so I was like I'm going to McDonald's and I'm just giving uh so this is what I did I went and got in my old man car and I sat there for like 15 minutes and I was like I don't want to drive you know and I was like somebody's gonna come by I think I'm ready like like I don't know they're looking for the pipe they're looking for the pipe that comes from the exhaust into the center so like I sit there and I'm like I'm like I've got to go I'm like I've got to go I'm like so I finally go I go down to McDonald's I literally order just a double quarter pounder with cheese pickles and that's it and nothing else okay literally nobody's ever ordered that in the history of McDonald's are you okay so and so I was like all right I got some good meat and then I went back home and then I went to bed early and then I was still hung over Sunday don't you have is your are you into much of a hillbilly country you don't have uber eats or like the food delivery services I don't really use that stuff nah you can't just sit in bed and just go like I mean I could the haircut that was the best part was like the first whole morning when I woke up and I was hung over before they left I was like I put my hood on and my son's the only one looking at me funny everybody else just isn't paying attention my wife just here so like a couple years ago around this time period my wife has so much going on in her head during the holidays and stuff I'll do things to see how long it takes her to realize what I'm doing so one year I grew a mustache it was a terrible awful spotty cop mustache and it was finally after I had the mustache I was like this stupid thing's driving me crazy what are you gonna say anything about it you never noticed me she's like get over yourself shave that stupid thing off your face you know so uh with the haircut I was like she didn't even notice it in the morning and then I was Saturday like after they left I was one of the things that I was trying to accomplish besides make it to mcdonald's was to try to take the razor or the buzzer and shave it as much as I could to at least not have again like I had like wings over my ears and no hair up top it was like but it was like a clown looking at stuff and I uh so I had to clean that up and then I played it off I so I played it off Sunday and I came up and I was like because Sunday morning I woke up early and it cleaned it up I slipped I spent okay nights down here in the bunker right I spent Friday and Saturday night down here so Saturday night Saturday morning I wake up and I cleaned it up and then I got up and I said oh yeah what do you guys think and I go yeah you look good fine and in my you know there uh that was it that was it is it is it your fault steve or is it us for bullying you poor gentle steve uh easily led astray by his friends and here we are on the stream encouraging you encouraging this behavior we're nothing we're no better than the frat boys back really I think well I hadn't volunteered it so why don't you cut your hair hey steve why don't you piss on that you know like hey steve that's what I'm glad about was that it didn't keep going because I was like oh my gosh you know oh that was the other thing it was on the desk it was just it was just the uh cookie as a cookie yeah the whatever was like the this is I haven't taken a drink out of it yeah look at this how killed it is like dying I think it was like to hear I think it was like to hear uh makes me sick anyway drink Taco Bell I would have gotten Taco Bell if I could have made it that far okay the McDonald's is the closest well see the McDonald's thing is if you go get there like quarter pounder with cheese it's real beef um it's because you demand because when you're hung over as fuck you demand quality right yeah well if I'm going to get the crap like I'm going like that's what I was like I'm not going to get just a full on crap meal I'm going to get this burger water I wasn't like I don't want all the fried food I was like this is what I'm getting right all right and Bob's in the chat uh saying it was Steve's idea he tried to talk him out of it exactly Bob we were like Steve why don't you think about Jesus why don't you think about you know please please settle down why don't you think about just committing yourself to Christ into religion and Steve was like no I'm crazy I'm going to drink some more and that's absolutely how it went down absolutely never would be us encouraging him it's too many Christmas here all right well that was enough so yeah bad like what we're doing is calibrating something I think I can't yeah I think so this monitor um actually okay so let's let's go back to the monitor um I'm not worried I'm thinking about the white bars that are on either side so let me show you this the geometry of component is a little bit different this is uh this is something that is like unique to this pc engine which is let me get back into this oh yeah this is something that's what I have to press over here to get back into that menu there it is okay so this is uh what I could do is I could show you this actually has a yellow and then it's a couple colors mm-hmm if I go over here got wars on the raster this is overscanned a bit right now see how there's multiple colors it actually got well you can't actually see that's no kind of lane isn't it here there's a little bit better see like a red oh no no now it's white okay it's a camera it's hard for us to see through the camera as well there you go there you go you see it better now can you see I see red red yeah pink uh yellow so if I do this uh I can use that and then that will help me obviously center this image wow I've never seen that but it is just on this it's a little bit different version hmm right okay we're gonna send to that I'm gonna send to that I went I didn't save my setting so once you put a setting in you have to enter to save it so you get that center but then I need to make it smaller so the principles there are so what I've done is I've just made it where I could see one pink line on each side okay and that seems to work pretty good should you expand that out or why why wouldn't you expand it out well this is just going to show up differently it depends on how what you have to do is uh that red screen or that red square you see in the middle of your screen that's really your ruler okay and that's the thing you're going to be basing this on is your aspect that's your aspect ratio so you have to have that to uh I'm looking for my ruler which I literally just had in my hands um but you have to have this side of this same side length is this side okay so this is so you're actually gonna get a ruler out yeah and I do have it somewhere but let's uh let me play the view so I can look around here and find it somewhere it's literally I have a couple things to measure oh there there's something this will work just as good this is like so you can measure when you're on like this shit yeah so when you're yeah when you're like on this big uh workout kick all the time you can sit here and measure your oh yeah measure the dang all right doing this one these ones okay Steve I'm going to take a break for just a few minutes so I know this is a big thing and I'm going to introduce it to you Steve very gently and uh very easily and I know this might be a controversial point between us and our friendship but what I feel right now is I feel like a pressure in my bladder yeah and I take that meaning I need to pee so what that tells me as a human being is I need to go to the toilet I need to go to the toilet and that's where I'm gonna do it not in the hallway not in the bedroom bathroom even I'm gonna go to the so I'm just letting you know that's what I do Steve okay oh my goodness well you're a little bit more civilized than the rest of us over here you know that's America baby that's part of manifest destiny manifest destiny all right so let's see what we got here all right so let me let me zoom in let me zoom in here let's see if I can just get you to see what I see do you see what I see again I'm trying to make this red square match up there was one of those I'm gonna be honest with you that was one of those streams the other night that I was wondering if I was like oh no one of those you wake up like oh no but did I what did I do what have I done I felt like a lunatic okay I'm measuring this at about 5.5 inches on my little measure here vertically and I want that to match up horizontally I can't really see from over here I'm gonna have to move out of the way I know I was I was wondering as I was saying that joke was what the hell is Lewis wearing he came back he was out there wearing some assless chaps oh man like that the weird distance been going on to the with the community these days it's just been out of control let's see if he comes back when he comes back we'll we'll zoom in on him if I can pay attention and and get him uh all right so if I'm if I'm here I'm actually I'm still horizontally I'm too big like this direction I'm too big I'm oh I'm but that's okay because I've underscanned it vertically so I can out just there he comes I forgot to do it damn it there's just chaps what is those chaps you're wearing that's what everybody's wondering what's the hell are those chaps our pants this is gonna feel rough and motherfuckers these are 200 euro pants motherfucker he's gonna leave a ton to trousers on look at oh there you go oops wrong one there you go there's a look at this one of those long pockets so you can stick that two foot screwdriver down in it yes yes these are quality outdoor pants like this yo robin that's european you wouldn't know what you fuck no I wouldn't you know it I wouldn't know it you're right exactly these are quality outdoor pants folks if you haven't already please drop us a like like we're by this this is the day we've run off a whole audience sorry people come for crt's pissing in the corner and loses ass I know right so right black on those those pants are the best fiel robin he knows what's up thank you looks like you've got a european name they're in sane quality they are insane see bob is some just a middle american hick okay he doesn't know what's good he only knows target sweatpants that's all bob knows hey man all right i'm actually gonna go up on this a bit lose day job confer very me hard on me no micwags no i didn't get them thrifting 200 friggin euros these pants cost far too much than a pair of pants so i'm not trying to say that i'm great for having that that cost me i've only got one pair of them like this but they're very cool when you're around doors they got big pockets you can do stuff with them you can jump around yeah and all my army buddies now they all wear these pants so i had to be cool and have the same pants or my friends you know the military guys wear these so i had to be cool let's lose this literally now into falling back into peer pressure and he was just telling me for falling back into peer pressure goodness gracious so i don't know how much fiel robin cost in america i don't know i've never even heard of that so who knows hold on was that in freedom dollars i don't know we're in socialism okay yeah i have no idea like i went to cosco and bought some pants and they were thirty dollars thirty dollars along with a rack a rack everybody so you're actually in the video yeah this was really interesting i've actually had something take off um that video on the break black friday i did it on black friday or which is the stupid day before after thanksgiving i did a video called the most dangerous sony right and it's for some reason over the last 24 hours it's got like 6 000 views out of nowhere it was already like one of those videos that just went flatline you know for a little or didn't flatline actually kind of crept and then all of a sudden the algorithm just decided to show it yeah to like a hundred thousand new people and then so i can't tell whether it's gonna peak out or keep going it's kind of crazy piss proof thirty dollar cosco pants that's right exactly the problem with cosco man is just can't like they don't sell real boxers there which is a pain really you still wear underwear i've been wearing underwear in like 10 years well see that's what happened is i didn't wear underwear the night we did the show because i was like my underwear are gonna be big and bulky and blob over i don't know what i can't believe like i i i could never go back and watch that stream you know that we are this talking about i mean this generation that i mean we will say this generation but now everything's live streamed you can go back and watch it like in the old days but i could never i'm embarrassed i could never go back that's what i'm thankful is on like roger's channel and not anybody else's big channel no we'll probably have the big channel by the end of next year yeah he's doing better than all of us i want my commission he even admitted on stream that i found him okay i was the one that found him i want my manager's commission uh if he wasn't a lawyer i'd sue him but uh yeah i want that pvm money baby uh oh yeah the the kids did get yeah it was over five grand as of right now and you could still go that's it's doing great we we had some fun for yeah for what we do it's not demo kirby is a boxer brief man dude i am a hundred percent commando i just gave up buying i was like why am i even buying underwear i'll just not have underwear anymore so i haven't worn underwear in like 10 years don't have to buy anything fancy boxer briefs whatever um it means i can't do sexy volta dances and get my you know where i just have to get my dick out but we're in europe and you know it's all about getting your dick out in europe that's just what we do here we don't have your american hang ups about sexuality and shit like that i don't know why you don't conservatism about their boxers making it about nationalism all of a sudden exactly free ball and free ball and that's right tom petty i agree with you panopolis now i'm free now we're having free ball and oh apparently geometry yes we were once talking about geometry i'm just going to go through here and mess with it a little bit so let's see where we're at i think we're pretty good i went and i did go a little let me turn my glass back up so you can see the actual screen a little bit i love this i've never measured a crt screen before that's great well that's why you got to use this measure that you use i don't waste because it's uh but i don't understand steve wouldn't you just expand the screen to the edges of the thing and leave it at that like because that's going to make it that's going to make the aspect ratio incorrect that's the problem if you just expand it out all the way the aspect ratio is going to be off so you're going to have it's going to be similar to like what you do if you go stretch in six by nine i mean it or 16 by nine it won't be uh that dramatic so you're looking to get the red square to be a square is that it that's exactly it because if that's a square that means it's set to four by three aspect ratio okay true true true true and so this and then after talking you know this monitor actually runs best at like with a little bit of dark edging around it tiny bit at the edges here and then kind of a little bit tiny bit over skin vertically you know it's like a little bit so that's that's why you're using that red square and then the rest of these squares are things you're trying to tighten up with other adjustments they're all supposed to be the same size every little square you see on the screen but that's not always achievable obviously on a crt even that's interesting i never thought of geometry in that way before i would always just be like pull the grid up get the outside square and get the outside square to match the edges of the screen is how i've always thought of it let's just for example purposes let's see what that actually does if i were to do that okay okay do that real quickly we can go over here and it's pretty much maxed out vertically uh at least enough for the right but you're gonna have to pull it pull it if i go over here to horizontal side and just do what you're saying go basically to there right yep like i do that well look at my aspect ratio watch like how much look how much it's off measure it measure it measure it with the thing and let's see measure it right now so if we go on our horizontal edge is i mean with my americanized yeah who knows inches whatever over six and a quarter inches over six and a quarter and this way i am over six and a quarter i'm five and three right so i'm a half an inch over a half an inch difference there so like this is half an inch longer than it is this way so what that means is everything is going to appear stretched a half an inch that's very itchy and that's expected behavior that's that's that's if you said it to this that is setting it to a different aspect ratio right right what is that then that would be like it almost be like five by three right or six by three or something sure it's interesting i've never never thought about it in that way before so in some so in this is that always the way for this monitor in that case we're saying this monitor is gonna buzz down the side every one of these crts that's why when you go and you like look at my files when i did adjust some buddies i always set it to the aspect ratio and then i tell them hey if you want to set it to whatever the hell you want after that you go ahead do that because everybody's going to have a different opinion some people want to do this and then what you can do from this point on is then if i wanted to i could just stretch this vertically so if i did want to have the correct aspect ratio i could over scan the vertical and that's where you like we'll see pictures where people do with this and they over scan the vertical and they might have a couple of bars of info on the top and bottom just blanked out or missing because it's over scanned out of the picture but that also does uh technically stretch the hardware to that zone where it's like well this is an ideal for the hardware it's almost like running at a little talk about the auto thing running at a little bit higher rpms or something right on your engine maybe maybe it stresses a little who knows and yes daniel each console can give you a different result that's why you always want to go through and check a bunch of them and that's the argument is what do you say it's hard to say you're never you're never setting it perfectly because even if you well if you did set it perfectly the signal that you put in would look different because the signal is not perfect see switching back consoles let's say using mr is what you use right that's why i like to use a bunch of different consoles kind of get it to a starting point and i don't know what console you're going to use but it's going to primarily work in that range and then you can go from there and get into these menus most of time is like i want it to be this way that way um however because it's going to be different and that's the good thing about having that menu right there where you could just do it like we just did interesting so let me um let me show you what that is comparable to so we need to go on our vertical size whoops so we need to go back up on the horizontal size to there hit enter and then basically just go up on vertical for another half an inch right to kind of push it back out to the try something like that going to the chat here to end dpx uh my trinitron has a slight brown color in the bottom left corner would a degausing wand help possibly possibly yeah you could also need uh you could also need a purity magnet behind there or something if you like i have the wand handy so that's what i would try first but if all right so yeah that's what i so if we look at this this is this is the aspect ratio so you can tell on this screen how if i stretch that all the way out to the side where there will be very little black on the side vertically uh speaking i'm losing some information it's over scanned and that's okay like i used to go i used to set it to this but then keith told me he's like look you're kind of pushing it to where it might be strenuous on the crt like i just said so since he said that i've been more of running it down where there are a black stripe there basically in there can you explain a little more i don't understand myself what does it mean by look so if you go too far up and down as you said right now so you've you've taken it outwards which means you want to go that what does that mean that you're running it too much or you use the analogy too many rpm right well you're pushing that image against the back of the tube into like into that over scan area okay and that's not good well it's just like i compare it to that because that's what you could do is you could drive your car and then you could keep pushing the gas pedal till you get the rpm tie and it's like okay well you're kind of doing the same thing where you're pushed it to the edge of the flyback okay all right so i saw so over scan and where all that data is so you could that's the way at least i understand it kind of sure sure that's interesting i hadn't ever sort of considered that it would stress the tube as ronnie is also saying in the chat i don't think it's so much of stress in the tube as it stresses the hardware okay i'm not sure about the tube being stressed on it i would think because the tubes only be stressed by the gun so okay i would more or less that's going to be like the hardware driving the image on that so you'd be more concerned with the flyback and the main ic's for horizontal output drives okay so the broad advice here would be if we're trying to get our geometry set is to we would rather have black bars on either the horizontal or the vertical so we want a square square and to enable that square square we would rather bring it in a little bit and have black bars rather than over scanning it and making it larger is that what i mean it's yeah that's kind of that's a good way to think about it if you're in the same mindset that you're like well i want this thing to still last as long as it possibly can so i want to try to run it at not stressful levels at all if that's possible i don't know that it really i mean it's hard to say without i don't know any of the real studies done on this but right um it's better but in the mindset that the same thing it's like do you run it you know when you balance out the brightness are you running it at the right brightness for the room technically or you like to run it a little bit brighter or more higher contrast because you like the way it looks in your eyes and the environment as opposed to what it's technically supposed to be set at for contrast and brightness for the room that's true because i love it a little brighter i'm always turning up the brightness a little bit and at the same point if you don't mind it you're in a really dark room you could turn down the brightness and contrast and possibly in the same token you know put easier use on the hardware or it's just not running at a higher temperature kind of higher drives higher push for an image uh i just it depends on the 16 by 9 image yes if you want to there's some that have 6999 modes jake was asking about adjusted 16 by 9 so if there's a setting in the adjustment menu for 16 by 9 that would also need to be set differently but i don't know how you would do that for i never really understood or i never really used these for that so i don't know that you you couldn't probably use the same signal generator to get it right you'd have to have a 16 by 9 source and then you'd be kind of understand it that'd be interesting okay but anyway um you know it just depends it's like i've also heard where somebody brought up an arcade monitor yes mike wags put a good comment here overscanning might exceed the hardware's tolerance expectations and it does enjoy voltage variances which ultimately if that happens that's leaving an environment for parts to break down or even a short to occur somehow over voltage can you you're using the pc engine here you understood in my right can you get out of 240p twice sweet and just play a game let's just see how it is in regular like do you really have it set right now it's set for like the actual i believe it's set for like where it will have black bars so let me show you yeah i mean okay let me let me see what this i just want to check as we're saying get the square get it set and then let's just play a game how it regularly we would see it not the academic environment of i just hit it with my elbow what's the issue like the sink line or something is not good and just it's just the cable is it the cable okay yeah because it gives me all kinds of trouble you've thrown around this cable so much you're using it plug it in and out every day good grief it's like one of the first and i don't i don't use it very much because of now it's stop it i hit it and now it's not one there we go all right i need to get a new one this one's like seven years old mm-hmm but now it's full size now i see it all the way to the edges oh you're right it is full size see let's make this simple and try to get it to six oh dang jake in the chat is coming hard and fast with that scott love my european brother i love scott we're over here it's all about scott you won't find much scott love over in the usa as i've understood um however i would say as much as i euro love scott and i can go down to my local thrift store find 20 scott quality 20 quality scott cables at any thrift store in my local area but i would always want to use b and c's before scott anyway so controversial opinion that jake i'll give it that all right let me let me yeah americans don't like shot i agree i would have i would have the thing is you could do a little bit more with this one if you haven't component mode it's under six so that's pretty much okay like right on let me get that show the way all right that's pretty much right on same size six inches each way every american dreams of six inches uh daniel gonzalez where where are you buddy are you actually in europe because like usually scott has been such a common standard around here that any thrift store has like a hundred fine scott cable you can't hear me can you hear me no yeah we hear you but okay james said he couldn't hear me oh can't hear steve it's just you know this oh when he's facing away yes yes yes oh yeah yeah sorry see but now he goes right to the edge of the screen that's very well that's what like that's what i'm saying is it's not like it's a big black bar you'll just see a black bar sometimes well let's see here it'll show better on the next screen when it jumps over and it shows color and we'll go look at a couple a couple of so daniel in the chat yeah i look i appreciate you in america it can be hard to do scott i get you i get you i get you um you know and i understand why you might want to do tv's got component components it's easy to get those rca component cables here i guess just because it was the standard around here like it's super typical to find like shielded scott cables uh there's 20 down at my local thrift store right now i know that for example okay we're going around the edge of the screen oh it's right to the edge now i mean it's almost the edge there's a little bit of a black bar right there and this is what's going to happen between consoles and between roms there's no sure this is gone to where it's either to the edge or it's a little over and that will vary no matter what you're sending in here now what what has done an excellent job at representing things is 480i video is always slightly to the point where you really never see the edges uh at least on like video content it just seems to be mostly a video game thing and again you could i could put in a different console and it would be slightly shifted to the right of the left and sometimes even vertically it could happen mostly it's do you have some i think we've all experienced this thing where we plug in a super nintendo we do the 243 test suite on that and we calibrate it and then we load up the genesis of some other core or some other system it's a little different how come consoles are ever so slightly different do you have some explanation well i mean if you think about it it's because every every uh every kind of console was taking their own approach and the the analog video signals uh standards were so wild right and if you think about it even the whole thing of 240p is not a real video standard it's just a trick of 480i just not blanking out half the lines so it's literally like a hack on the video signal and they were able to figure out the parameters a lot of times of that video signal and how to actually make that work and it was never but it was not up to just because they were it's it's already a variation that the film industry is like here's they're the ones setting the standards on it the 480i signal and the consoles are like well we made it work 95 of the way and we really can't figure out how to get that extra four percent or it's working fine enough right and it's like it's a little bit different from the sega but it's fine because it still comes through the rf it still all comes through it still shows the image on the screen it's just our image on the rock and then you and then you take okay there's your canvas and then you go in there and you you give some guy who makes a game and he goes and makes the rom well his rom he's like well it doesn't really line up and work right if i use the right he's got to have a little room in the rom so he's not using the whole screen so there's still then that the rom moves the actual and this was much more prevalent right on the show on like an Atari where you're extremely limited with every space so you're using you'll notice that happens a ton on Atari games sure did it look good on the tv yes they're done out of the door like not like us sitting around right 40 years later yeah analyzing analyzing an analog video but but yeah that's uh so i'm running low on time here yeah yeah we're gonna wrap it up in a second but i wanted to um i wanted to just yeah like get kind of rounded up so there's uh that's really good dude that if you do have the l5 and it's uh it's slow starting up it could very well just be the power supply capacitors uh and the ones that save on pat has in that kit and it's 12 i think i did 12 capacitors on the board there that okay it's all right that's not so many to do no it's just literally the part of taking it out and but it makes such a big difference it's definitely has to be done it's part of the servicing package okay nice so we got here so this monitor it now fires up quickly we're we've argued like a bunch of nerds for the last hour about the particular geometry nevertheless the broad picture is the geometry is good uh everything seems fine here so what are to wrap it up steve what are the next steps for this monitor right so yeah i'm gonna still spend a little more time going over the finer details on it where i will tweak uh the deflection a bit more um it's just it's gonna be a very little bit on the like pin amp pin cushion which is just the leaning uh and then i will check out closely all the spots on the test pattern for convergence and i'll make a focus adjustment convergence adjustments there's potentiometers in there that can do that on this monitor and uh then i'll put the shell on it and set it away for a week and see if it cools down and comes back to life after that as it should and then it's going to be up for sale so how can yes people will be following your patreon how can people learn about this first listed on patreon because again this is going to be one that will sell uh for again this is going to be a consignment sale because it's not mine and so what do you mean by oh you're selling you're selling for somebody else right right right so uh i'm helping it's bob i'm helping bob so he wants to get bob slides don't let that put you off but sure i don't even know if he wants people to tell but anyway that way uh you know if you're if you're in the interest you know i'll list it there first and then okay after that i will patron and then after you know there's a couple people i want to check with see if they want if they don't then we'll get a message out somewhere on regular uh yeah thanks ronnie thanks for signing up i noticed that um um we're good the uh things sent out there to the rest of the world if it still remains sure i i reckon your patreon is going to snap it up let somebody want it it's i mean i it's been so long the problem is i don't need another one and i've got a uh a series like a 14 a 14 which is a little bit better and it's the bvm it's like 2007 ronnie yes we ship it's through uship if you're in the united states you can get a uship uh actually i just dealt with them actually i've been dealing with them like all month i always deal we have multiple very long streams about yeah uship and and how they work and so if you need help i can help you get that set up but it's um it depends like where you live sometimes i'll do uship and it's picked up within a day other times it can take a couple weeks if it just depends where you're at they think that you're looking like a character from the walking dead who's your guest is that dale from the walking dead me is that yeah yeah am i dale from the walking dead okay i don't know or maybe they think maybe they think you're the host and i'm dale yeah which one's dale from the walking dead either or anything i don't really watch tv uh i did get this something to talk about some other time in the future i got out this um 27 inch composite only crt that i found on the side of the road like a year ago uh and cleaned it and i've got it inside the house and watched all my christmas movies on it it's got the fake wood grain on the side also oh nice uh so yeah it's it's really cool it's nice and big i wish i could i want to rgb mod it but before uh before i do that i'm just trying to get some use on it but it was covered in like this black soot like if it's stuck in a chimney or something because it was just like i was scrubbing black soot off it nasty i thought i should have made a video on it but i didn't but anyway so let's uh yeah what you got going on anything next just love it i tell you what's next is i'm going to go and eat dinner i got it i got some baked food it's dinner time here it's eight o'clock that's what i'm going to be doing next and i'm going to after that i'm going to keep working on the mr laggy uh keep trying to get it to work uh wika waka who uh created the week he wrote back to me on discord so hopefully he's got some insights and i'll get it going on the crt but uh yes that's what i'll be what good all right guys yeah have a great week have a great weekend i will be back monday uh please i'm planning to i have family coming into town this started today so have exciting right i always gotta love family coming into town i'm just kidding and uh so sure we'll have some more vortex stories but anyway i'll catch up with you over the weekend have a good thank you everyone thank you everyone for tuning in appreciate it we had a good time today all righty i'll see you later buddy ciao everyone bye bye bye all right loose is out again thank you everybody thank you for hanging out if you're on uh patreon you have any questions about anything you know just hit me up let me know um and i do have uh i do have some plans coming hopefully i can get some things done before the end of this year i want to get uh one more video next week and uh we'll see how that goes but i'll see you guys next time you all have a fantastic weekend and uh be good to each