 You still have control Hey, we're live hello everyone This is special Friday. We got amber back here. Hello And Len's gonna illustrate yes Len and amber have never met before This is a meeting of the minds. It's gonna be great. This is so cool. I love that Get to be part of this. Thanks for being here. Of course. All right ready to go Do it Roger you good. All right. Here we go Where's the record button again? The Daily Tech news show is brought to you by me. Oh Thanks, me if you also wish to bring it go to Daily Tech news show comm slash support That's daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Friday, May 20th 2016 on top Mary joining me today This amber back from amber back dot com co-author of outsmarting your kids online Good to have you back on the show. It's been way too long. It has been way too long Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being here Daring kitchen is out and about hacking the planet today But Len Peralta is here as well to illustrate the show as he does Friday sounds going Len It's going really well, and you said the book is how to outsmart your kids online I think I need to read that. Absolutely. You know what? I might be able to send you a copy Definitely check it out And depends on how if you put her in the illustration today. Oh, well, I will I have I have some room in the Better look good, and I'll send you two books All right, we're gonna talk about Apple's new retail store and whether this is the new model for Retail especially for consumer electronics going forward, but let's start with some headlines Google's a tap division. That's the advanced technology and projects division the one part of Motorola that they kept Announced a modular smartphone. Well, you already know about the modular smartphone project aura will ship to developers this fall And a consumer version is aimed for release for you to buy sometime in 2017 Phone module is now built into the frame, so there's no separate module for the phone But there are now six open slots that anything can use modules can be removed and added without Rebooting the phone they showed that on stage at IO if you want to develop a module for project aura You can request a developer version of the platform at a tap. Google.com slash aura. That's a r a I I'll be honest Amber. I didn't think this would ever really come to fruition Yeah, I mean they're not the first company with a modular phone But I will say this reminds me of one of those gadgets because I've had so many over the years that sits on my shelf I maybe use it once and then it kind of goes away It just feels a little bit like that like it's kind of gimmicky and I can't really see the long-term potential for something like this I think people would lose some of the different parts and then in many ways that just doesn't make sense and There are other takes on this happening with removable back plates from Motorola or LG has that thing where you kind of have to Take the battery out and then you can put in modules. This is certainly more Easy to use but you're right like it are you gonna lose modules not not because they'll fall out But just because you know when you're swapping them around you got to keep the ones you're not using somewhere I guess right yeah, I mean I think it's hard enough for some people I mean it sounds ridiculous, but to just keep their smartphone on them all the time They don't live it on a regular basis leave it in taxicab. So I think the idea of having all these different Parts to it. I think it'd be cool to try out, but I don't see it being a huge win for them Yeah, I get upgrade ability becomes an interesting thing It's eat both easier and harder right because maybe you don't keep a bunch of modules But you just swap them out when new ones come out, but that also means you're constantly upgrading So I don't know if that Causes a problem for people as well Google a tap also announced an update to project Jaquard if you don't remember that was a partnership they announced last year at IO with Levi They're gonna do it with multiple clothing makers But Levi will still be the first to weave multi-touch sensors into clothing a taps Ivan Popirov Announced plans to launch a connected smart jacket aimed at urban cyclists that he says Will allow wearers to do things like control their music answer phone calls access navigation and more all by tapping and swiping on the Jacket sleeves So you just tap to turn up the volume tap dancer a phone call tap to get the weather So you can swipe on your sleeve There's a tag in there that puts in that you put in the sleeve that pairs with an app And then you can pull that tag out and charge it over USB if the battery starts to run down Beta test is launching this autumn with public availability expected in 2017. What about that one Amber? You want it? You want to wear your cycling jacket with a built-in touch screen in your sleeve? Well, you know what okay? So I think this is obviously a very niche product and I know people who are cyclists especially urban cyclists They would probably like something like this. I'm trying to keep an open mind It reminds me a little bit if you think of when those those hats first came out for snowboarders That had the built-in speakers in the hats that connected by a Bluetooth So we know I think in some really niche markets that these things do work But again, it's a very small group of people. Yeah, and they didn't announce a price on it I think that makes a big difference too, especially when you're dealing with a niche like that By the way, I said touchscreen. It's just touch multi-touch sensor. There's no screen So you'll have to get used to that, but you're right I can see cyclists motorcyclists and maybe even bicycle riders wanting this for for urban use And actually definitely bicycle riders. I don't know why I said maybe But are there enough of them willing to buy them and and that's why I think price is Determinant here because if you're getting around that way, you don't want to spend Another several hundred dollars on a jacket just so you can turn your music up and down. Yeah I think you're exactly right. The one thing I will say if we look at what's happening in many urban areas is they're opening up more Bike lanes so we know that there are larger populations of people who are biking throughout their city So in some ways, I feel like although it is a niche and it is small at least it is a growing market So you're right depending on the price point. They could have a good number of people using it Wall Street Journal has sources saying Verizon is the current favorite to purchase Yahoo's core web business Although the offer is gonna come in a little low two to three billion dollars Seems to be where most of the offers are expected to come in maybe some a little bit higher previous valuations though expected four to eight billion dollars and those kinds of bids are now considered unlikely Yahoo has set the first week of June as The deadline for the first round of bids. I guess what this means is if all of the bids come in lower than expected They could make a case for not selling it. I don't know how probable that is Yeah, I think they're kind of in such a desperate position right now that they're going to have to sell it Right, you know, just to continue to move forward that Yahoo just feels like one of those companies to me that it's just a I don't have too much hope for the future of Yahoo. Let's put it that way I'll be interested to see who ends up with it I guess there's there's still a little bit of a tinfoil hat that Marissa Myers presentations were designed to lower the bids to The point where the investors would pull off the pressure to sell. I don't think that's really what's going on That could be the end result by accident I don't think it's a plan but I think it's more likely that somebody like Verizon ends up buying it and then all of a sudden You have Yahoo and AOL in a very, you know programmatic ad-driven company And that has been the problem for Yahoo is really monetizing content Verizon knows Verizon's AOL department knows how to do that Yeah, I think it's one of those things where I think there's a sliver of hope for Yahoo But at the end of the day I think we've both seen this over the years when you have a company like this That is doing poorly and they start to sell off assets and you know more and more that they aren't necessarily the company That's going to be driving forward as far as having an innovative future I think it's one of those things that yeah, maybe you know They they they sell off and they last for three or five years, but I just I worry a little bit about their long-term future Yeah, it's a company with so much momentum But the short term is probably going to continue right but whether you build that momentum back up or not That's that's kind of the big challenge makes me think of Zip Davis PC Matt They're still going right? Yeah, I would never have predicted that so sometimes you'd defy the Absolutely Mojang announced Friday that it's developing a version of Minecraft tailored for the Chinese market the game will arrive through a five-year Licensing agreement with net ease which also manages Chinese operations for Blizzard That means World of Warcraft in China managed by net ease as well as Starcraft and others I think they're even bringing overwatch to the Chinese market for Blizzard So that's just kind of the way this goes you you want to do business in China The easiest way to do it is to partner with somebody who already has the proper licenses and approvals Yeah, absolutely. I mean my son is seven years old and he and all of his friends are hooked on Minecraft It's been such a phenomenal worldwide hit. So I think it kind of makes a lot of sense for them Samsung has reached a deal with ant financial to let Samsung pay users link their accounts to Ali pay for retail checkout And QR code access and financials the Alibaba affiliate that owns Ali pay So TechCrunch notes Apple's been working on a similar deal and hasn't got it yet But this would allow Samsung to take advantage of Samsung pay and again in the Chinese market by partnering with somebody who's operating there Yeah Probably good move for them. Yeah, and I'd be curious to see if Apple can strike a similar deal Whether it's with Ali pay or someone else although Ali pay is the the big gorilla there as far as payment platforms go I max is working with Google's jump platform to develop a cinema grade virtual reality camera And we'll provide Google with existing cinematic footage for VR conversion I max is also partnering with star VR maker star breeze We talked about that earlier this week to launch VR centers in six locations worldwide Starting with Los Angeles and eventually including China as well. So the idea is to make I max movies in 3d VR So I guess they're not even I max movies anymore. They're just 3d VR movies But I max saying we want to plow ahead We want to get people working on this figure out how to crack that medium and also have places to go for people who are like I'm not buying a VR headset yet, but I want to see what's happening, but Tom This is the thing. I don't understand. You know they talk about locations Why do you need a location if you have a virtual reality headset isn't the point that you don't have to leave home? I think what yeah, and I think what I max is saying is not enough people are buying these things yet So we're gonna have a location so they can come and see what we've come up with and then maybe that will inspire them to want to Go buy them at some point It's a way for to get people into the market and at the same time bridge that gap Where right now not many people have VR headsets. It's way too early for that But get people used to the idea that oh I max is the brand with the great VR movies The bigger problem that none of this addresses is what it what is a VR movie? What does that actually end up mean? Yeah, absolutely, and also just I think the comfort level in terms of how long you want to wear the headset I mean a movie it just seems too long to me I've been playing around with the Samsung gear VR and watching some of the content that's available now And I mean I can't imagine really wearing the headset work for more than 10 minutes 15 minutes Yeah, I think you're I think you're gonna have to have a different length as a norm and and a lot of criticisms have Been that the director in a movie tells you what to look at But if you can choose to look everywhere you might miss things So there has to you have to adapt to that the director has to figure out how to allow you to be able to take advantage of 360 degrees but but also not just be putting a movie on over here that you could turn around Nine to five Google reports Xiaomi has posted on its forums that it will announce its first quadcopter UAV May 25th at 7 p.m. Local time the verge adds the Xiaomi forum moderator who left the post also said something Wonderful and cool is flying to us very soon. So Xiaomi getting into quadcopters seems like nothing to do. Yeah My guess is they're probably partnering with somebody effect Some folks have speculated based on the fuzzy image that they think they know what partner they have actually Motorola is teasing a June 9th Lenovo tech world announcement with a video That shows a lot of high school students using Motorola razor flip phones The video description reads flip back to the razor days of yester year and get ready for the future Are we are we gonna see a flip smartphone? You know what I loved my flip smartphone I have to say I thought it was one of the best out there I can't see this actually happening But I guess you know at some point everything that's retro kind of becomes cool again So maybe now is the time for the razor. I mean I Maybe they've figured out how to crack it You could have a touchscreen and maybe have a small keyboard in there But I and and that design everyone still raves about that Motorola razor design But I just can't imagine trying to use that It doesn't look like something that would really work with today's software, but Nonetheless, who knows stranger things have happened. Yeah, absolutely It's an old story, but Torrin freak reports on yet another example when I say it's an old story I mean we've heard this one before but here's a new example of the asymmetry of YouTube's content ID taking down an innocent victim Here's what happened an episode of Family Guy included a clip Which is pretty much identical to a 2009 YouTube video by switched that shows a glitch in the Nintendo game double Dribble that allows you to get three point shots We could argue all day whether Family Guy Recreated this or not, but the clip is virtually identical so identical that it matches in content ID And of course Fox as usual uploaded their Family Guy episode to the content ID system on YouTube That's meant to look for matches of unauthorized uploads and then block them so that people aren't pirating Family Guy on YouTube Turns out though the way content ID works is it doesn't know what's a fair use It doesn't look at switched and say oh well he had it up first It just says I trust Fox because they're a partner so it took down switch original video from 2009 That may be the actual video that Fox used in a fair use situation on their own episode of Family Guy Wow Wow. Yeah, you're right though. This story has happened before right? It's not the first time that we've heard something like this taking place and Yeah, I mean it just goes to show you that the system is severely flawed. Yeah, it's a little bit out of balance It's first of all, it's guilty until proven innocent, but but also if Switched definitely had uploaded that in 2009 and and Fox is saying well This is a brand new episode then by definition He shouldn't he should be able to take their episode down, right? Isn't that the way it should work? It should actually work like that, but he's not Fox so there you go Yeah, makes makes a difference. I've had this happen to me too. We actually had it happen on Sword and Laser Where we had someone send us a video To use in our show which we then played in the show and then content ID Went and took down the video that they'd sent us from YouTube because it was in our show So we did that to people accidentally because Sword and Laser was part of a network You can sundry that was part of content ID system It's just one of those things where there's haves and haves nots in that system haves and has not I don't know something like that Yeah Something like that geek wire reports e-league Turner sports and WMI ME IMG competitive gaming venture have reached a multi-year deal with the Amazon owned streaming platform Twitch to distribute live event coverage and on-demand content according to a Time Warner press release beginning Tuesday May 24th Fans will be able to watch live streaming e-league coverage on twitch each Tuesday and Wednesday six games a day starting at 12 p.m Eastern each Thursday during the six week regular season group play e-league coverage will begin at 2 p.m With a pair of best of three matches, so e-sports more e-sports on twitch the place you look for it Yeah, not a big surprise You know my nephew is 21 and all he watches are e-sports. That's it. You know like no no baseball You know he just basically that whole world. He's absolutely enthralled with it It is For you know this will make a few people shudder in the audience, but for good or ill it is in fact The new ESPN for a lot of kids absolutely And finally Apple gave an early press tour of its new flagship store located on the northwest corner of Union Square in downtown San Francisco The store consists of 42 foot sliding glass doors and a genius grove How to genius bar? It's a grove because it actually includes living trees Sit free and someone helps you with your computer a plaza Will be open outside of the store 24 hours a day featuring free Wi-Fi and at least at launch occasional performances from musicians There's also a board room where people can get business advice from entrepreneurs and developers as well as a 6k Screen that will be used for teaching classes opens to the public at 10 a.m. Saturday in San Francisco, and this is going to be the launch point for our main discussion, but but just the store itself amber What do you think of this? I think this is what retailers have to do in this day and age I mean there has to be a reason for people to get out of their homes and go to retail stores And they want to experience something they want to see it as a destination because we all know how easy it is just to Buy things online so you really have to be able to draw them in so I think this is a trend That's not going anywhere anytime soon We're going to talk a little bit more about that in a second But thanks to everyone who submits stories on our subreddit dailytechnewshow.reddit.com We got TG Steller another Jay Martin CDN dude 74 submitted one today Steve Io's already in there Alan Char's got some stuff Go check it out It's it's like an expansion of the things you like from the show and it helps us have a better lineup at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com And that is a look at the headlines All right, so let's talk a little bit more about that Apple store But not just the store itself. I mean it is gargantuan the idea with those big 40-foot doors Is they don't open every time someone goes in but yeah, they just decide to open them on on good days And there's a lot of good weather days in San Francisco So you have sort of an open-air plaza type feel But all of this is spending a lot of money to get people to come in and look around they the Angela Arons Former Burberry executive who runs retail for Apple now says we think of it as a community center We just want people to come in hang out and interact with our products It is not quite going as far as Samsung has done with their 837 store in New York Where they don't even carry things in stock you can't buy anything there I mean you can buy it online there, but you can't walk away with anything there They have a cafe and art installations same idea Meanwhile, you know freed from recode recently actually Wrote up that it does seem like Microsoft stores aren't getting the foot traffic They should have but Microsoft retail general manager Kelly Soledon said are we pleased with our traffic? Yeah, do we always want more yes, so it seems like Microsoft's not backing away from this But there's someone in the middle Amber like we we are seeing this trend of the retail store for electronics companies Just trying to be a place to get you to interact with the brand Yeah, I mean I think historically if you look at Apple stores Specifically then they've always been these places where people go and they do interact with the brand But I would argue that maybe they weren't necessarily that friendly in terms of wanting to hang out there You sort of got the feeling in a typical Apple store that people wanted you to move along Right, there's not a lot of room to stand around So I think it's just the evolution of this and you know years ago If you looked at retail experts and when they were talking about the future of stores They always talked about the future of stores as a showroom as a place that people would come to experience something and we're seeing that Actually roll out today with many of these technology companies. Yeah, and when you talk about showroom immediately a lot of people think cars Of course, there's a lot of rumors about Apple doing cars This flagship store could definitely have enough space to roll a car in there So that that starts to boggle the mind, but that is the idea is you know, sure They'll have some headphones and accessories and things that you can walk out with But I've noticed a lot of times if I actually go to an Apple store to buy a laptop They won't have the what I want and they'll just say well You can just order it online and have it shipped to you like there is a little bit of that showroom mentality built in Do you think that this is something not only that could carry over to other retailers because we've seen Sony kind of back off Of this kind of solution, but could it apply to other areas of retail? I think so. I mean especially with the trend of customization when it comes to people buying products Right, we saw this with the Apple watch when it first came out and in most stores You would go to you weren't able to buy it because there were just too many combinations that you could get as far as the straps and the watches So I think we're seeing this all throughout the retail environment as people want very specific custom products And that means they need to order them online because it's not possible that any store was is able to carry the inventory necessarily necessary to be able to serve each and every one of those people who want that Although one of the things that I have started to see more often offered in fact Google's got a whole new ad system to encourage this is I would like to buy this online Oh wait a minute I can actually go pick it up at a location near me and not even have to wait for a delivery And I did that recently with something at Best Buy hadn't been in a Best Buy in a long time But they got me to walk in and I kind of look around and see like okay This is this is what they're doing these days and that again. It's that idea of the showroom where Maybe the next time I want to buy something. I will think of that look at that store I will think of Best Buy because I was able to pull that off. So It is interesting to see we all wondered especially in the dot-com boom We'll all shop and go online and retail stores just go out of business and it sounds like no We still want those physical locations Maybe for picking things up in person that we ordered online But also for just being able to interact like you say with the watch bands see what a laptop screen looks like Etc. Yeah, and I think it really depends on the product right you're talking about Best Buy many of those products Perhaps if you went to buy a big flat screen TV, you don't necessarily want that customized But if you look at a store like Nike you could see the future of Nike where people want customized sneakers with their names on them They would come into a showroom They would look around see what you could get and then maybe even stand there with a tablet in order on the fly Yeah, no, it's it's all manner of things because you're right I don't want to customize a TV, but I also don't really want to have to drag home myself Yeah, exactly. So maybe there's a mix-and-match there, but Wow this back to the apples the new Apple store. It is ostentatious And I'm looking forward to my next trip to San Francisco to just go look at those 45 foot Is it 45 42 foot sliding glass doors? Wow so many issues like having lived in San Francisco And I know you've spent some time in San Francisco like how do you keep? Security in this kind of situation and you got this 24-hour area out front Are you always gonna have somebody watching that area? Just it's a little much I especially know that I was just in San Francisco recently and I lived there for three years and I noticed that the homeless Issue that they have there today is much bigger and much more of an issue than it was even when I was living there And I know there's something that sort of just leaves a bad taste to my mouth when I see a store like this and right around The corner, you know, there's people living on the streets. It seems like a pretty ugly display of Wealth and excess in some ways. Yeah, and and the other thing Apple is is taking a Little bit of credit for this outdoor area I believe that buildings of a certain size in fact I know that CNET's building in San Francisco had to include a public space that was available 24 hours a day So I wonder if Apple store is not big enough that it has to do that as well In which case, you know, it's not a bad. It's not a bad thing that they're doing it and and such But they may not have had a choice. Yeah But very interesting very interesting to see and I I'm curious I'm even more curious about the Samsung 837 store. It's been open for a few months now And I haven't heard much about it either way. I'm curious if that's gonna pay off for Samsung as well I think of the Century City Mall here in Los Angeles Which has an Apple store has a Microsoft store and had a Sony store and the Sony store went out of business So that I think with Samsung though to your point about virtual reality and I sort of made fun of IMAX in the locations But I think in many ways that's the type of scenario where these stores do make sense Right you someone can come in and experience virtual reality in the Samsung store And that's something that you know, like you said you kind of have to try virtual reality before you buy it Yeah, it's a very unique situation And that's actually one of the things Microsoft is doing is they're bringing the HTC Vive in they they're gonna have the HoloLens available so you may see them start to get more traffic into that store because they're the place that you can try that stuff out Let's get to our pick of the day Paul from Poland wants to recommend a space simulator for VR called space engine He writes it's a procedurally procedurally generated universe full of galaxy stars planets moons and nebula Which happens to be supported for Oculus and is freeware for Windows from XP up Linux and Mac versions may be developed dependent on donations You'll need a beefy machine to really run it sans choking even without VR, but it can be done on moderate hardware No man sky is something that I've been waiting for and Paul from Poland says yeah I know Tom's waiting for that as am I but this is equally great If not better you basically start off on earth and can just explore the galaxy Love it. What's cool? Space engine org if you want the English version en Dot space engine org if you want to check it out. Thank you Paul send your pics to us folks feedback at dailytechnewshow.com We want to hear from you and we'll put them up at dailytechnewshow.com slash pics All right, we got a few messages of the day first of all did you ember? Did you hear that uber is testing their self-driving cars on the streets of Pittsburgh? Oh, I have not heard that Yeah, and one of the things I mean the reason they're doing it is they took a lot of people from Carnegie Mellon and hired them So it makes sense for them to locate their testing there But they also said oh Pittsburgh provides some advantages in testing self-driving cars So Justin Robert Young who has lived in Pittsburgh was talking about it on yesterday's show and invited people who live in Pittsburgh now to Write in we got some great comments. Here's a sample of them Tim said How are they gonna turn into streams of pedestrians at the crossings because during during rush hour? And this is true of a lot of cities Everybody's just streaming across and if you want to turn left you just kind of got a nudge your way in there He says the two-way roads in Pittsburgh are often not wide enough to fit two cars There's of course always university areas in any student any city with students jaywalking David said that local names don't match the maps and the streets on the maps aren't always reflective of reality Which I figure well you could fix that by just adjusting the maps But he points out that in Pittsburgh. They have something called city steps So the streets are listed as drivable on most maps But they have steps in the middle because they're so steep that you really laugh to drive your car over the steps He also talks about the tradition in Pittsburgh of the Pittsburgh left where you let the first person at the light make a left Before the oncoming traffic goes ahead in order to reduce congestion I've seen people do that in LA and it freaks everyone else out because they're not from Pittsburgh, I guess Is that a real thing? I've never heard of that I had not I'm not heard it called the Pittsburgh left, but I've seen it happen in reality And that would be a different thing that you'd have to program yourself driving car for and then finally bill said on the bridges Street signs are located up in the girders and by the time you see a sign that tells you what lane to be and it's too late So if they're relying on the signage in any way that could mess them up as well It sounds like a disaster way But thank you Pittsburghers for sending us those observations Finness in Cape Town Said you mentioned in your discussion that Google is pretty agnostic these days and their approach for Android and iOS support And that might be true, but they're hostile towards Microsoft. He says very hostile towards Microsoft No matter how many times you visit gmail or google.com with Edge you get a prompt to download Chrome This is behavior that just happens at Edge. You will not see that prompt for Firefox or opera However, you do see it in Safari So they're definitely going after the manufacturer made browsers as a corporate user of gmail You have to change a setting in the security settings in your Google account to allow pop and iMac support for Outlaw Desktop I think that's true for all pop and I'm at support But it's fair point and also to this day Google has not shipped any Google apps for the Windows Store nor allowed Microsoft to ship a YouTube app I did find a YouTube app that says it was published by Microsoft, but I don't know if it still works I remember there was a big to-do about that So yeah, I mean Microsoft has a smaller Market share at 2.5% in the US So you could argue whether it makes sense for anybody to develop for a market share that small including Microsoft sometimes but But he's not wrong. They they are cross-platform where it's popular It makes sense for them. I think I hate to say it, but Yeah, but it also is very annoying to people who like to use Microsoft phones So I get why thinnest is frustrated by it We also talked about the tests ongoing tests for supersonic airlines that are happening in Australia and Joe the pilot Wrote in and said first to my fellow pilots down under we get paid by the hour So I'm trusting you to make this illegal somehow Second, please let me fly it before you shut it down and third He says airlines have been trying for years to make this supersonic flying business model work Some of the best money the Concorde ever made was going to Oshkosh, Wisconsin for the world's largest fly-in and taking a full Boat of passengers north into Canada to break the sound barrier So in summary so far supersonic jet transport has been more viable as a carnival attraction than transporting passengers supersonic travel has books written on them and they're mostly positive So I have to assume it'll come back someday But filling an airplane year after year with premium passengers looking to be in a city a couple hours faster than a triple seven is tough You can't just slow down the airplane and get back those fuel savings and initial purchase costs when the economy slows down For now, we'll probably just keep traveling at 30 to 40,000 feet and at 450 to set 470 knots I'm kind of okay with that actually before they test things out a little further No, though they said Sidney Sid what it was at Sidney to London in two hours That's a 20-hour flight. There's gonna have to be a lot of test flights before that Well, that's what they're in the middle of I get yeah, you're absolutely right. Isn't that tempting like Yeah, it is tempting. I mean that would be incredible and they would change the game for everyone But I still think it's a it's a long way off Toronto to Sydney in two hours It's a lot better than the two times I've gone there and it's more like Seth and LA has our last message He says both Wednesday with Scott and Thursday with Justin the desire was voiced for an all-in-one headset and the inclusion of room Sensing similar to the vibe it occurred to me an option Google might be exploring would be integrating some of the tech They've developed for project tango the idea that with a few extra sensors and cameras in the included hardware Would be able to self-generate a true picture of your environment to navigate around would possibly even be more freeing than the vibes Lockdown play area. I'm sure someone in one of their R&D labs is toying with us But who knows if it's power or cost prohibitive, so we'll never see the light of day But an interesting convergence of technology Yeah, there's been a lot of rumblings that project tango would hit a device at some point this year and Google confirming that they will in fact be making their own version of Daydream VR Maybe it would be a project tango based device that would be interesting Tom I think you're gonna have to start doing a new VR show. It's just there's so much news constantly, right? I know right and then I'm like where do I put the 360 degree camera because you don't want to see that way Yeah, no exactly there's there's so much going on in VR and and well and and lots of It's it's funny to me that people like there's no new ideas and technology and then all of a sudden we start to get the wave Of them and VR is one of them that people have said I don't think it's real But now that they're actually shipping products. I think we're seeing well. There is something there We still this is the fun part right this is the early part where we don't really know what it's good for you But it definitely does something I mean I think I just read an article that said with the Samsung gear VR in April of this year that a Million people were using those devices So, you know, it's getting pretty substantial and becoming just more mainstream, but you're exactly right these early days are always the most interesting Well, thank you amber Mac for joining us as always amber is at amber mac.com Ambrm ac.com and co-author of outsmarting your kids online a book that Len Peralta is dying to read Yes, and depending on how well he drew things throughout the show He might even get two copies if somebody wants to find out more about that Where should they go? They can go to outsmartingyourkidsonline.com to check out what the book is all about is for parents to keep their kids safe on the internet And it's also for sale on Amazon as well both as a print version as well as an e-book Go check it out. You wrote that with a security professional So you've got like a good combination of viewpoints there. Yeah, absolutely I think we were able to really cover both sides of things and you know I learned so much just throughout the process of writing the book and you know, there's always stuff that comes up Really important for parents caregivers all those people looking after kids. Go check it out out smartingyourkidsonline.com All right, Len How did you do with your drive today? I think I did okay I'll let amber decide actually the main story of course with the Apple retail store is I wanted to you'd mention that Burberry the old former CEO Burberry wasn't was handling that The retail aspect of it and so I kind of took that a little bit further I think it's not going to be too long before you start seeing Apple themed clothing Like this young woman is wearing the Apple hat She's got that cool little Apple like the old-school G5 sort of dress going on and you know I was able to work Amber into the drawing as well. Hopefully that's That works out. You have wonderful shocked at the G5 dress Shocking, I think it'd be very very upsetting to see I would think someone in this sort of capacity But but I don't know so there you go It's a it's it's my viewpoint on what the future of the Apple retail store might become probably in about yeah Probably about six months. I love it You're you won Len. I did win. I won I won I won it all And just so everybody knows this is this print is available at my online store currently at Len Peralta store calm and you can also If you back me at patreon patreon.com forward slash line You can get all these images I draw every Friday as high res Images that you can download to your phone to put it put it up, you know, you put them out They're very they're very high res. They'll look great printed and you know It throws me a couple bucks as well per month And then finally I know you didn't ask Tom, but I'm just going to sort of barrel through here Yeah, I I am I want to let everybody know about a Kickstarter that is currently running that I am sort of involved in in a Capacity, it's if you're a fan of mystery science theater 3000 and freaks and geeks then you should definitely check out Renfest on Kickstarter Just go to Renfestivity comm will take you straight to the to the page It's the talents of mystery science theater and freaks and geeks doing kind of an office theme sort of thing at Renfest and it's funding right now It's going on till June 9th. So you have some time, but you really want to get on to it right now There's some great perks great stuff that you may want to check out. So go check it out Ren festivity.com Ren festivity.com that looks great. I love those guys. They're hilarious. So You know the John Strickland's of the world should definitely be taking a look at this. Absolutely John Strickland He's he's that's right up his alley man right there. 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Yeah, I was so fast. I know it's flies by it does well Thank you for having me Yeah, it was super fun. All right, we'll enjoy the rest of your Friday. All right, you too. Have a great weekend All right, we'll talk to you soon. Okay. Thank you. Bye Shit, what shall we call show Roger just so there's no voting again today So let us pick from the list There's no fun. I'm sorry. There's no voting. No showbots down Oh So they've been doing a little Google doc thing, which means there's no voting But huh, but we have a list of them So yeah, just pick pick some of the ones that tickle your fancy Roger. Let me see mix and match mobile a tap dancing that Answer your jacket Yeah, whatever Yeah, why a w I think they're just trying to say your Chinese name Smart phone Now me the drone That's pretty funny. The MCA is all in the family. It's not a bar. It's a grove Out of the San Francisco. Yeah, you're about to say that one. Oh open the San Francisco pot Bay doors. Yeah, I like that It's very Kubrick Apple stores with grassy knolls Doesn't like that one Definitely doesn't like that one. I actually like either open those San Francisco pot Bay doors or it's not a bar It's a grove Len, do you have a deciding vote? I'm sorry. I wasn't you I was I was looking at something else Len I usually look at the show about thing. I'm sorry. It's not a bar. It's a grove. Oh, that's what I like I like that one All right, let's go with that. It's not a bar. It's a grove an Andy Grove. Wait, that's the wrong company he's from Intel is It I mean what runs inside Apple machines or at least they're true That's true. They are Intel processors inside not Grove era processors though Are they don't think so? Okay, oh right because I got to do that over there What else you bit up to then me yeah, oh, I've just been running this thing I've been doing that. I'm watching the festivity a run festivity as I've been I've been on so many phone calls over the past couple weeks it's been nuts and I'm running this event on Tuesday for it through twitch TV, which will be interesting and I've never done that before so I'm learning a lot on the job. It's very fun. It's very interesting But yeah, what's going on with you? I? Am Actually taking next Friday off. Oh, so you'll be on with Justin Robert Young and Steve Kovac Very good. Oh, that's I think it's Steve. We man. That's the that's the before the big holiday weekend Yeah, what you doing for Memorial Day? I have no idea. Oh, you know what? I do know what I'm doing my son turns four This week and we're not able to have his party. So we're gonna we're gonna do it on the on the weekend So so you're gonna have a traditional birthday barbecue birthday barbecue. Oh my gosh, you know Here's a funny little story I don't even know if we're gonna be able to have a barbecue only because in our backyard We have these these Robin nests and the Robins have now they they've been born and The Mama Robin is really really super protective of them. So if I send my dog out there I noticed it when I took the dog out in the back and and this bird was dive bombing us Of course So now it's dive bombing the dog it dive bombs anybody that goes out there anytime So I have to actually go out and mow tomorrow and I don't know if I should wear like a hat and goggles So I don't get imagine you out there the football helmet on I Am honestly, it's it's really disconcerting. I mean the things never come close enough to me to like hurt me But it's just sending you a message. That's yeah, right. Do you have like a piss helmet or like maybe a Football or hockey helmet. I I should probably find yeah, I do have you know what I do have I have a Darth Vader helmet So I'll look very chic as I'm mowing the lawn tomorrow in my Darth Vader home It's gonna be a lot of fun And then tonight I'm seeing a Play that my daughter is in and hearing her sing so it's going to the theater Not really the theater. It's more like a schools type thing. No, I know but but it's uh, you know, it is prom weekend Oh, no kidding not for anybody in our family, but I bet that's true a lot of schools It is the worst. Oh, you know, I was gonna ask you When I was describing all those Pittsburgh driving things did those sound Cleveland-ish to you too or were they very fairly Pittsburgh specific? No, I think I think it's pretty much the same. I mean, you know Pittsburgh Pittsburgh and Cleveland are almost like the same thing. So it's like, you know It's it's very similar Yeah, I thought that was a lot of the emails we got just said, you know, the thing about Pittsburgh is we have crazy rush hour track and I'm like Yes A lot of places like like the left turn into pedestrians thing. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's absolutely true That's a train Chicago and San Francisco and parts of LA and like that's that's not a Pittsburgh specific thing per se But some of that the steps I've never heard of that I mean in San Francisco, you think they'd have stuff like that They have some pretty steep streets in San Francisco, but nothing Nothing that allows cars that also has steps on it. No, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that But and maybe they're lying about it allowing cars Maybe maybe it just looks that way and a lot of those things were like on the map It says I'm like well, they can fix that they just do their own mapping, right? Yeah That's easy enough No, everybody Is in the chat room feeling my name? Are you got good reviews on the on the picture? Oh, thank you so much I hope I don't ever have to leave. I don't know if I insulted her or not with her. Oh, no You might have said that's great, okay All right. Well, I've been sitting for three hours straight. Yeah, that's the thing How how like when you when you I've seen you prep for your show that's all also called being American Like do you like When you before you're doing your show like how long are you are you sitting at your computer literally in front of like I move around a lot. I start my prep upstairs now. Okay, and then I and then I move from Okay, this is a little too much information Sometimes I do a lot of the prep in the bedroom just laying down on the bed Sure because I start before I even get up with my tablet And so then I'll eventually I'll move to the couch and then I'll eat lunch So I'll move to the dining room table and I'll take the dogs out and then when I bring the dogs back in is when I come Down here, but I'll sit over on this couch until it's actually time to sit down and start making the hang out And then I'll sit at this desk. Yeah, but I know the idea should be like Oh, I just sit down at this desk and I don't have to move but that's I don't want that Yeah, when are you getting your runs in because I've noticed you're I do those in the afternoon mostly after the show Unless like yesterday the schedule did not permit because I had to take sir to the vet. So I did my run at nine In the morning yesterday, but I used to do it at nine all the time And it was just too much. It was caused too much of a crunch sometimes. Yeah, especially do a master show Like I'm gonna go run now before current geek because I don't have current geek till four. Oh It's you and yeah, and you'll be all sweaty for that to be perfect. Yeah, well Come back a shower. I cool down enough and then yeah, I'm making you share way too much information. No kidding, man Charlie Rose came out. I'm sorry if I didn't realize that it was good, you know, I mean, but I yeah I just I noticed that like on Fridays. I am sitting for long periods of time And so I need to get moving and up and out. So Roger. I'm sorry. I accidentally muted you Oh, you did okay, I thought I did All right, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna start getting ready for this. All right, man So so I will not see you next Friday, but I will see you Roger, correct. Yes Right on all right when we will see you guys next week then all right Meanwhile at the Hall of Justice I Am publishing the show. So thanks everybody for watching and listening and supporting and I will see you on Monday. Don't forget about day six of Peter Wells coming out this Sunday. Bye