 Welcome back. It's still the breakfast on Klaus TV Africa. We'll be giving you an update on the Kedwinach frame attack. More details are beginning to emerge concerning that particular incident on the show this morning. We have Gideon Gambo joining us. He is a brother to one of those kidnapped during the incident. He is here to give us some testimonies and let us know exactly what the issues are. If the bandits have actually made demands and all of that. Good morning to you Gideon Gambo. Thanks for joining us on the breakfast on Klaus TV Africa. Good morning my name is Gideon Gambo. Thanks for having me. Yes, it is indeed our pleasure. Looking through the dailies this morning, what we read, what we see is that there's some terrorists beginning to contact relatives of the victims that they have in their custody. We understand that your brother is one of them unfortunately. Have you been contacted and what are the demands being made by these terrorists? Yes, yesterday morning, 14 o'clock we were contacted and it was a very brief call. Yeah, we were able to speak to my brother, one of my brothers and he confirmed that the other one was alive and possibly the other one was alive. Like I said, it was a very brief call. We were unable to talk for a very long time. So I think the bandits just told us that they were calling back and up to now we've been waiting for all the call back. We understand that two of your brothers were kidnapped and in that particular attack. You said that from what I just inferred from other you said that you were contacted and they allowed you to speak with your brothers? Yes, it was one that was my brother's and boss. He had his record and just sent it to me and I listened to what they said. So what did they say? Okay, when they called because my brother was dead, he was the one who spoke with his boss. He was asking that I hope they are okay because yes, any action of the other people who were alive and dead, yes. After that the bandits just stopped the call. Alright, let's from what we understand reporters saying that they are asking some of the victims to convert from their faith. Is there anything like that happening? The condition your brothers are in, are they okay? Are they in good health? What exactly? What's the situation really? Well, the situation right now is not something that I would want anyone to go through. There's access for me, these guys are like my best friends, they do everything together. At first, I actually thought I could hold on very well, but trust me, it's really getting on me right now. Likewise, the families of people who are loved ones are part of the ones that we adopted. And everyone is just sticking fingers crossed, waiting for the next call to hear what demands. And I must say friends and family are calling D&I, D&N to ask what are these things we called you, what are the demands and all that. I was able to speak to one of the girls that was adopted also, and they were also waiting for them to call them back and speak their demands. Okay, so far the authorities are aware. So have you been in touch with the authorities concerning this later development and what are they saying? What I ask, let me just repeat, you said that you have gotten some sort of a communication with this mandate. Have you informed the authorities and what are they saying to your family? Have I what? Have you informed the authorities? Okay, yes. Because I talked to my dad, I talked to my mom, I talked to everybody. In fact, this Tuesday, we went around all the hospitals with my uncles, two of my uncles and a friend, family friend, to have their bodies. I think you were there. I'm not sure. Good y'all, you didn't quite understand what I asked you. I was asking, have you informed the police, the authorities concerning this latest development hearing from your... No, no, no. So why haven't you involved the police? I mean, why have you not involved the men of the Nigerian police? You're saying that this has not been reported to the police. Your siblings were kidnapped during that attack that happened, the Abuja Kaduna train. And you're saying that you or members of your family have not contacted the men of the Nigerian police to report this? Well, and by the way, we have friends in the military and also in the Nigerian police and also some authorities. So most of them are aware. I got both from one of these generations and they were able to just come down the top. They are in control of the matter. They're working and they're doing everything possible to rescue my brothers and other people. So I have felt it wasn't necessary going to the police because my brother in question is someone that is a known thief. Anyone who flies or ride on the Kaduna Abuja train knows this very well. So, yeah, already most people are aware of what's happening. I just felt, okay, since I've got calls from this person, I think it's fine. I don't need to do that to report this thing. Okay, so is there any information as regards, you know, this kidnappers, I mean, the whole incident that happened, the attack. Did your brothers or your brother, any of them, did they speak to you as regards the kidnapping incident and what transpired? We're trying to understand, you know, what happened if you can, you know, be very explanatory and very explicit, you know, with your answers. When I went to the train station on Tuesday, I was fortunate to meet two persons who survived. And also, yesterday I got a voice note from one of the friends in one of the drivers and she was explaining what really happened. And in fact, funny enough, the number, the number they used to call my brother's boss was the driver, one of the drivers, one of the train drivers and number. They told me that when the call came in, it was showing the name of the driver of the driver. So I need to be from the conversation I had with one of the ladies who worked in the train. She was explaining to me that they are not sure if the driver is alive. And also, from her voice note, she started to understand that those who resisted, those who tried to run, among them, they just feed them and maybe dump their body or they carry their body alone. So right now, we just hope that my brothers and all three other persons in the camp of the big boys will just, if they come and not do anything in that room to provide their life. Okay, so, well, there's several conversations and reports around that those who were actually on that particular train were working with these bandits, more like informants. Did your brother actually mention any of this information in the course of relating with you? No, not at all. Alright, many thanks Gideon Gamble, thank you so much for being part of the breakfast this morning. We do appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Alright, we'll just take a very quick break. We'll still stay on the Cadona train attacker, but more insight this time around concerning TKT Racketeering. It is not the first time, it came up sometime last year and there was some talk about it. It's as though it has been swept under the carpet. Then again, from what we hear, the number of people on the train were even more than those who actually purchased the ticket. That's the information that we are getting right now. We'll talk more on that and we have them again joining us in a moment to tell us more. Stay with us on the breakfast.