 Boomer on. Today's guest we've got Anna Breeze. Is that how you say it? Breeze. I'm going to say Breeze because it sounds good. So first of all, Anna, thanks for coming on the show. Well, thank you for having me. Yeah, not a problem. You used to work for BBC, ITV. I was at ITV for a long time and BBC for about a year, year and a half. And I left, the last job I had at BBC was called BBC. I was a producer of BBC X-ray in Cardiff. And I was working on a consumer program and they actually called me. So I was in a contract and they called me about a year after I'd done a short amount because I had a child and begged me to go back. And I didn't go back and I haven't worked for the BBC since. And I haven't worked for ITV since. And that was about 2010. Missing it? So you were a journalist, but you left the mainstream media because you weren't getting to expose the truth of the majority of your stories, in fact, of the story, probably. I'm not going to go down this narrative of good guy, bad guy. There were a lot of fantastic journalists out there. I found in the TV newsroom that there were a lot of TV journalists who were very focused on... I found that they had very low self-worth and the ego and getting the views and the likes and the following was very important to them. And I always used to say this, whenever we used to do a TV news bulletin live, people would always rush back and look at what they looked like because you could be able to see it straight away. They weren't going off to a dark pub in Birmingham, so I worked at ITV in Birmingham. They weren't going off to a dark pub to meet a whistleblower or get a true story. There weren't any investigative journalists in the TV newsrooms that I worked in. That's ITV in Birmingham, BBC South to Day in Southampton. They were not investigative journalists. They were... I mean, at the end of the day, when I started doing TV news presenting, it was more like acting. There wasn't a lot of journalism involved. Where did you grow up? I grew up in a place called Newent in the Forest of Dean in Gloucestershire, in the rougher end of Gloucestershire. Gloucestershire is an interesting county because it's got a very posh part, which is called the Cotswolds, and then it's got a quite deprived area called the Forest of Dean and a little market down there. And I've watched a couple of your interviews and I've noticed something. George Galloway and David Ike, some of your more high-profile guests, both of them, had a very poor childhood and I did. I did. I didn't have any money. No money at all. My dad was a secondary school teacher and my mum didn't work and we were really poor, really, really poor. I remember wearing the same dress to school every single day. They're getting so worn, it was see-through and never had pocket money, never really won holiday, toys, very basic presents at birthdays and Christmas, but it didn't bother me at all. And that's why I don't care about money now. Did you have a big family? I was one of three, older brother, younger sister. I was born in 1976 and so I'm 42, nearly 43. Shouldn't say that word to that ute. And there was a time when things like how I looked and how old I was and how pretty I was and how confident and beautiful I was mattered and now everything's changed. And I'm fighting. I'm a fighter, I'm an activist and I'm living in a world. I'm living in a world that concerns me greatly and deeply and I'm probably on a path on a journey. I still want it to yours, James. And I've listened to you. We've had a little chat before this interview and I'm so excited to meet people like you that are doing what I'm doing. Honest journalism. Well. I think anyway, sometimes I talk a lot of shit though. So I do, sometimes I go, sometimes I go, I talk and I go, you sound like a genius. And other times I go, nah, you're a fucking psychopath. No, we had a chat on the phone before we met and I just thought, yeah, you're spot on and you were talking the truth that I hadn't heard from many people and it just completely resonated with me. And I thought, yeah, you're bang on and I'm now working. So from the BBC ITV, working in TV newsrooms, a presenter journalist. Now I'm enabling and helping people like you, but you are okay. You come across very well. You're attractive. You've got a good set up here, three cameras. I'm helping people that have just got a mobile phone get their truth out on social media and scrap the word social media because it's not social media. It's not happening in a social environment. It's new media. It's incredibly powerful and it's getting the truth out there. And that's why you're successful in Scotland. It's why you've got 44,000 subscribers on YouTube, massive following on Facebook. It's because you are representing people. You are speaking a truth that they're not hearing on the traditional old media, mainstream media outlets. So how did you get involved with John Nigel, then? What choose that path for you? Well, back then it was simply the case if I was working at Rothschild's bank in the Channel Islands, which I hated. I was making very rich people, even richer. And I thought I was 23 and I was very unhappy. And I'd kind of followed a path that my parents sort of said to me, I should follow. I thought, no, I'm 23. And I've got to finally find a career that I'm really going to enjoy. So all I wanted back then was to meet people, lots of different people, listen to their stories and have a varied, you know, an enjoyable career. And I enjoyed it and I loved it. And I was a very good journalist. And it's only really been the last two, three years as I've been investigating and I've been listening to people and hearing different stories that I've become a bit of, I've become disruptive. I've become a nuisance. I've become angry. And I've become distraught by the fact that there's a truth that's not being told. And I'm not the journalist that I was. And I went into journalism probably a little bit for the ego. I was very badly bullied at school. And I noticed a couple of other girls. It's very similar stories that we have in the TV newsroom as female journalists. We would be either made to feel in some way inferior and we needed the glory. We needed to feel special. And I got that from TV news. And that's why I really pushed and pushed and pushed. And I got a fantastic career. And I got to a stage where I was one of the lead presenters at ITV in Birmingham. And, you know, you get the fan mail and it gave you a boost and you needed it. And it's the same way. And I have to constantly check myself in the same way if somebody comments or shares my post. I get that boost again that I need. Yeah, dopamine boost. Yeah, you know, I did go into a career where I was just working in an office. I don't know, a secretary in a solicitor's office. I was in a career where I needed it. I needed that feed. I needed to know that I was great. But if you've been bullied at school and stuff and you're starting to get recognition and people are starting to give you credit, make you feel good, that's a good thing also. I had worth. It gave me worth. The worth that I was missing and I was horrifically bullied at school. It really was horrendous. It was really, really bad. So I think that was one of the reasons I was drawn to that career and I pushed and pushed and pushed. What was it like then working for the BBC back then when your career was thriving? What was it like on a daily basis for you getting up in the morning? What was yours? Well, I'll mention now just to plug my book making the news. I talk a lot about working in the newsroom in ITV and also when I went to the BBC and how the newsroom works, how we get our information and how we publish that information. So when I went to the, I was at ITV in Birmingham. I was one of the main presenters and ITV regions were merging. So they were having to save money, not a lot of people watching ITV local news. It wasn't making any money for them. So they were merging. So the West Midlands and the East Midlands region they were going to merge. So they were going to go down from 11 presenters to three presenters. And I was one of the 11 and I thought, this ain't happening. I've got to get out of here. I'm not going to be, I might get one of those jobs because I was very good, but there's a chance that I won't. So I managed to get a presenting job at BBC Sir Hampton and there were so many people went for that job and I got it and I knew I was going to get it. I was strong in the interview. I had to do a great screen test. So I went to work for BBC. It was pregnant at the time and I used to do the late shift. So I'd start work at 1pm and I'd finish at 11pm. So I would help if needed for the 6pm bulletin but I wasn't needed. So do you know what I did? I walked around in Southampton looking for baby clothes. I'd go on the internet pretending to work. There was nothing for me to do. That was the situation it was. So I had nothing for me to do. Once or twice I got sent out on a job. Then I'd have to present the roundup for one minute news roundup. I think it went out at 7 or 8pm and then I'd have to edit. So as soon as the 6.30pm programme, so ITV it was 6pm, BBC it was 6.30pm, as soon as that programme was broadcast I'd have to re-edit it for the late news. So I'd have to sub it right down. So I'd have to take the top stories and re-edit it, cut it right down into sort of seven minutes for the late news and that would take me a little bit of time but I couldn't do it until it was broadcast. So the 6.30pm news bulletin was broadcast. I could then do that. Sometimes I would help with the overnight. So our ITV news, we did something called The Overnights where you'd write the morning bulletin the night before. So you've got breakfast bulletins at 6, 7, 8am. They're written the day before. And so I'd help with those. BBC there were more staff. So I'd say there were 30 more, three times more people at the BBC than ITV. So I would then help with the Overnights at ITV. BBC didn't need me to do that. So then I'd just work on the late news bulletins. There wasn't a lot of journalism involved. It was literally just, right, what's the top story here? Edit that two minute 30 package down to one minute 15 and then I would do the bulletin and I would be in a studio a bit like this, three cameras. No one else would be in there. There's a camera one, do you link? Camera two, second link, camera three and I'd have a pedal, a bit like a sewing machine pedal and I'd read the autocue. And then I- Is it reverse or autocue? Does it reverse or does it just go forward? It's live, I'm filming, it's broadcast live. So see when it goes forward, the autocue, see if it goes too fast, can they put it back up? Not in the evening bulletins because you don't have a producer in the gallery. So on the 6pm, which is the flagship show, you do have someone to reverse if you've got a problem. They're controlling the autocue but in the evening bulletin, the late news, which I used to do, you have to control the autocue yourself. And this is really important and this is gonna interest you. We've got to be very, very honest here. We, in an era, I don't know when you were born, I was born in 1976, we had a situation where we had four or five channels on the TV. We had to have TV news in a half hour segment, didn't we? Because otherwise we'd be watching news all the time. We didn't have TV news channels. We didn't have it on all the time. So they had to put it in a half hour segment. So you'd have a presenter link into a package, presenter link into another package, finish with the weather and a bit of an and finally. What's wrong now in 2019 is that as a total anachronism is in the wrong context in the wrong decade, we have now got multiple platforms and multiple channels. How does that half hour program still exist? It's wrong, it doesn't make any sense. You're editing down five minute interviews into 15 second soundbites, you're packaging them into two minute news bulletins and I used to do these so I was a reporter as well. You'd interview some of the five minutes and you'd take 15 seconds out of it. But the public now can listen to the five whole five minutes and make up their own mind. See when you're getting told to do a story, I believe if you watch the news long enough, you're going to end up depressed because it's all negative stories. Did you ever see that when you're working it at the time of going, this is fucking draining me? The complete opposite happened at BBC in Birmingham. So I had a boss and this is in my book making the news 2018, which is on Amazon. I had a boss called Liz Hanham. I think she may still be at the BBC. I'm quite happy to be very open about this. We were working in the newsroom that day and working in Birmingham, there were a lot of murders, there was horrible stories. There was a beheading, there was a child murder, there was some kind of arson, really horrible stuff. And she said, we're not gonna run with any of that today. We're gonna run with lots of positive stories about this area, about the Midlands because we want people to feel good. So she chose the stories for the day. She wanted to put across a more positive kind of feel for the people taking their half an hour daily media diet for regional news that night. Because you are what you watch, you are what you eat. So if you're constantly watching negativity, that brain is gonna constantly repeat that cycle. I believe there's goodness in the world. I believe that everybody's got goodness in them in some way but if you're constantly watching negativity, murders, rapes, suicides, wars. Well, you'd agree with her then. You'd make a good producer. But how can, but she would have ended up getting sacked eventually if she was to stay, do that more than once, every day instead. But I, the funny thing was, as a citizen living in Birmingham, I wanted to know that someone had been beheaded. I knew there was horrific stories that children had been murdered and all these horrendous stories. But she said, we can't lead with that story after that story, after that story, after that story, after that story, because it's miserable. But that was what happened in Birmingham and the Midlands that day. Because she says, obviously, it's a bit of ego stroking when you're getting good stories. It's a negative shit that sells. My biggest views on this podcast are gangsters. People watch the guts and the glory in the misery. Did you tend to see, when you were working for the major corporations that you try to look for the most negative story because you know it would have the most views? You instinctively knew what would sell. So you would always find the headline, the sound bites. So if somebody cried, you'd always put that top. So the producers and my boss used to say, always put your top shot at the top. So if somebody cried or something, you know, really distressing happened. So no, it was, but no, you'd have incredible stories where people rallied round and they'd do wonderful things. And that would lead the program as well. So it was wonderful news. The positive were people who'd, so for example, I did a story about, there was a couple, an elderly couple that were burgled and all of their life savings and the cash life savings were taken. And after the report that I did, loads of people donated money. So, and we ended up replacing what they lost. And that was a great story. That was uplifting and that did really well. And people responded to that positive story. So you loved your job at one point. So when you were doing and uncovering stories and doing what you'd done, what was your catalyst to waking yourself up and then want to leave? What was the turning point for you? I left because I had kids and I was doing a light shift. So I was working from one to 11 p.m. That doesn't work when you've got kids. And I ended up getting a fantastic job for with a national union of journalists and admin job. And the opportunity to came to come back but I cannot and will not ever work for BBC again. You know, just on Jimmy Savile alone and how they covered up that pedophile who continued to abuse children under their nose when they knew what he was getting up to. Yeah. How could I? How could I? How could anyone? You know, that was my walk away moments and not just Jimmy Savile. I've spoken to a number of people over the last couple of years. I started seeing a guy who was probably what a lot of your audience would know about this. He was in the Truth of Community. Okay. So he used to talk to me at 9-11. When I first met him, I thought he was mad. I actually thought he was mad. I thought he was mentally ill. Yeah. I thought, what? 9-11 was an insider. What the hell are you talking about? And he'd show me stuff and a lot of it was crap. Excuse my language, it was. But some of the stuff he was saying to me challenged me and it did. And I have to remember that girl who I was three years ago that started to see this stuff on YouTube. And I know YouTube's got a lot more restrictions nowadays but he started showing me some documentaries exposing the truth behind 9-11. And ITV actually did a feature on 9-11 which was very interesting, kind of blamed it on the Saudis. And that was quite enlightening. It was like, yeah, but that's YouTube. It's just on YouTube and you're mad. But I would, I'd listen and I'd argue with him and I'd talk to him and I'd listen. Of course I would. I was open-minded. If somebody presents me with evidence, I'm just gonna go, no, no, no, that's crazy. So I started to watch some of the stuff that he was watching and I started to open my mind to some of these issues, to aliens exist. What happened to Princess Diana, JFK, 9-11. Conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories, yeah. And at that time, the existence is domain on YouTube mainly. But over the last two years, I have met people who have challenging things that have been reported in the mainstream media that are even more blatant and even more serious and even more concerning. For example, I've spoken to a chap at length and interviewed someone called Robert Stewart, who's for the last five and a half years, he's a former journalist, looked at a BBC panorama program called Saving Serious Children from 2013. All I would ask is any of you viewers to go and have a look at that because it appears that the BBC filmed an event, a fabricated event with victims that weren't injured at all. Very, very serious indeed. And other things have happened. So I've been very involved in covering the Westminster pedophile cover-up. So it accelerated and accelerated. So I met somebody who started to pose these questions and show me information that challenged my beliefs. And it was a very difficult time and I didn't listen to it. I didn't want to know cognitive distance, they call it. It's scary as well. They think that shit's going down. It's like, I mean, Jimmy Savile, I wrote to Jimmy Savile four times, I wanted to be in general fix it. I really thought he was cool. I thought he was a lovely guy. And then all of a sudden, I know he's not a lovely guy. Ralph Harris, I love Tim as well. And the same thing, are you telling me I can't trust the BBC and what they've told me about 9-Eleven isn't true? And it's quite a gradual process. So don't be disheartened if you start talking to your family about stuff and showing them information. And they are in shock to start with. It does take a long time to start to challenge these situations, to start asking these questions and start to change your view about establishment, things that you trust. You know, you think at the end of the day, the BBC, especially for my generation, they've been in the living room, our living rooms, like a member of the family. They're television sitting in the corner of our homes, teaching us the truth that we trusted and believed in, almost like a member of the family, an auntie and uncle that comes into your home every single day that you listen to and believe in. That's a programme. You're going to start the challenge and question that? That's going to take some time. Well, it's got a programme for a reason because it's programme in your brain. It can programme in your brain, there's subliminal mischiefs and everything also. McDonald's advert pops up, it's all of a sudden you're hungry and you're driving to McDonald's. There's so many different factors again we spoke about earlier. Unless I see it with one eye, it's still a conspiracy. There's always three sides to the story. One day you want to be a journalist, you think that's the right life and then you meet someone else and they present something, you go, fuck. Wait a minute, this is crazy. But we're living a very soft generation where people are scared. If you're going to... The problem we've got, okay, the truth of the community and I'm very happy to talk about this, the flat earth stuff, I think that's absolutely nonsense, drivel and damaging. You know, let's talk about David Ike who you've interviewed. I think he said some fantastic stuff, especially around education. But he said the Queen Mother turned into a 12 lizard or something. You know, you've got stuff, crisis actors, there's a lot of the truth of community. You think that every single terrorist event, every single shooting involves crisis actors. They're not real. I don't believe that either. And then fortunately, that community can do a lot of damage as well. But you know, where do you find your truth? Where do you seek at search for it? Where do you stop? Where do you seek comfort? And where do you trust? Because it's another end in fucking rabbit hole. You can constantly search and search and search. Just to mean you're talking, you necessarily might be right or wrong, including myself. You've got Moonlandings, you've got 9-11, you've got constant, I think sometimes in life as human beings, we feel as if something's missing. So when we see this, it kind of gives us a wee bit of, oh, that could be right. It kind of lightens up our brain a wee bit, where it becomes a wee bit of excitement. What do you think about the Moonlandings? Real, fake? I don't know. Do you know no? I don't actually care. Do you know what I care about? I care about child abuse. So I've got 14,000 followers on Twitter. I've got 300 messages. I haven't even read. I'm getting stories from people who have been the victims of the most horrific corruption and conspiracy of injustice and abuse in the workplace and professional people as well. Children in care homes, but professional people in, and they've gone to the Ombudsman, and their Ombudsman has got a very dodgy deal with the institutions as well. And that's, I've experienced that and I'm hoping to expose that in very different, many different industries. And these are people with these incredible stories to tell and they're not being told. So my solution to this is to empower them. So what I'm doing is traveling all over the country and I'm trying to do more and more free work, charity work, enabling these whistleblowers and victims of survivors of abuse, giving them the tools to tell the stories themselves, to get them out on social media, just like you have to the masses. Why has that become so important to you, the paedophile rings and to expose them? Because children that don't have a parent who have been, you know, for example, you know, I met Michael Tarago, you interviewed. So he was left at the hospital as a baby. His mother was a prostitute. He was one of twins and he was abandoned at the hospital. And she also dropped off the two-year-old sister. He was then in the care of the council and of the authorities. I think the first three years of his life, four years of life, were okay. And I think that's why he is the man he is today. But the age of four, he was taken to a foster home where he was only raped every single day. Now that little boy, I still, I'll see in that man and who's going to be his parent who's going to look after him and what if that's still going on today? How bad was the Jimmy Savile stuff at the BBC? How bad was the cover-up? I know that there's someone called Miriam Jones. He was spoken and it's been published in one of the mainstream news, I think it's The Guardian, but also The Praskasette. Miriam Jones was a producer for BBC Newsnight. He's come out publicly. He lives in Wales. He was a BBC producer for Newsnight. He's come out publicly and said that everyone on the right side of the Jimmy Savile situation was viewed as traitors and removed. So basically when that story broke within the BBC, there's a program that BBC Panorama produced called What the BBC Knew. So the BBC Panorama were investigating BBC Newsnight. Very interesting program. You can still see it on YouTube. So the BBC investigating itself and a lot of the executives within the BBC refused to be on that program. They're the ones that are still there, yeah? The ones that came out and said, wait a second, why aren't we doing anything on Jimmy Savile? And they'd been talking about it for years, investigated him, all of the evidence was there, all the witnesses were corroborated. BBC need two sources. They've got two source evidence for all of it. And the BBC was still failing to push it out. The people that wanted that Jimmy Savile exposed, they were the ones that were pushed out, made redundant. The people that weren't traitors were kept on. And so I would look at that. What was interesting, what happened with the Jimmy Savile story? The reason it came out in the end was ITV sent the BBC a press release saying, we've got the information we're gonna publish and they forced it. So it was ITV, because they're very close and they keep together and they protect each other. ITV forced it. So they thought, right, if ITV are gonna tell everyone that Jimmy Savile's a pedophile, we're gonna have to... After he was dead. Of course it was after he was dead. That's what I'm saying. Don't get me started on Epstein, you know? Do you know what I mean? So what is the Epstein story? What the fox has scripted with him? The suicide. Was that murder? You think? I'm basing everything I say on the information that I have heard. I don't know Epstein. What I'm very interested in is the WikiLeaks email documents, the Podesta emails and the Clinton Foundation. And I was watching John Pilger and Julian Assange YouTube video yesterday and had 80,000 views. And I thought this is outrageous. This should have 800 million views. Julian Assange talking about the corruption within the Clinton Foundation. And Bill Clinton supposedly was on Jeffrey Epstein's private plane 30 times. Prince Andrew was his mate. Prince Andrew was seen. This is what's interesting. Prince Andrew was seen in Jeffrey Epstein's house in 2010 after Jeffrey Epstein had the conviction for Charlie Defulia. Why was it only released now, 2019? That video has been sitting somewhere. And probably there are newspaper editors and TV editors who are holding onto information about individuals keeping it back. Why did they release it now, nine years later? And that was what forced Prince Andrew to make a statement about Epstein. It was only when that video was released nine years later, 2019, filmed in 2010, that Prince Andrew then finally. Because the royal household, the royal press team generally don't make any statements. But it was so bad, that video. This is why this video is so powerful. So what I would say to anyone watching if they're a victim of abuse or injustice, film it. Okay, even if you don't publish it, you've got it. So, Jeffrey Epstein, Prince Andrew was at the door of Jeffrey Epstein's house two years after he was convicted. A convicted pedophile. And when that was published, that video was published. That's when it was all over the media and Prince Andrew was forced to make a statement. But I don't know what happened to Jeffrey Epstein other than that I, from what I have read and the evidence I have read and watched and gathered, I believe he has a lot of, he had a lot of information and video. Who's gonna expose? Of high profile individuals, possibly Tony Blair, Bill Clinton, possibly Trump, who knows of them in compromising situations with young women. Yeah, it's fucking sad, it's very sad that this is going on. Will it ever come to a head when everybody will be exposed, when somebody comes to the forefront and really puts the pressure on it, especially the mainstream media. Things like four or five families run the media all around the world as well. Well, we've gotta stop calling the mainstream media for starters. What would you call them? Well, how many views have you got in Scotland? How many, how powerful are you becoming? Millions of years. Exactly. But then I become a... So what are you, alternative media? No, you are the mainstream media. So what happens when you get more views than all of the mainstream media channels? Are you called the mainstream media? I think so. Exactly. To don't give them the power of that label, change your terminology. Everybody speaks out about Peter Feier rings or everybody tries to expose that A.K.A. Gildando. I believe was gonna do a documentary on Peter Feier. I was gonna expose a lot of people, end up dead. Does that scare you also? Yeah, it does, yeah. What was Gildando? Was she gonna expose a lot of stuff? The rumors are that she was going to and I probably should crowdfund for a proper full investigation and documentary into her. Because I feel like Gildando. So she died in 97, I believe. I feel like Gildando with a Twitter account, okay? Gildando with a voice. So back in Wales, I know two people who friends with somebody who worked in the police force and they said that she was, yeah, she was murdered. It was a hit job because she had information on Peter Feier's. I'm very happy to talk at length about Peter Feier and what I would just say briefly to your viewers is the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse, the official inquiry that the government launched. All of their interviews with high profile, former senior police officers, testimonies on oath. Back in March, there's about five of them. They all testify that they were told to cover up anyone VIP actor, sorry, actor or politician seen in a compromising position with young boys. Was that, so the testimonies are on YouTube, the ICSA livestream and the ICSA videos, they're called the ICSA Westminster hearings. They've got about 300 views, okay? Because it wasn't in the mainstream press. Unfortunately, that story hasn't really been pushed out. However, what happened to Carl Beach, aka Nick, was everywhere. Carl Beach was the guy that got convicted for being a liar and a fraudster and a pedophile who made accusations about higher politicians and particular individuals. So he was everywhere, but there were no journalists at the ICSA hearings apart from every day, apart from someone I know called Mark Watts and I was there as well. So there's information out there, yeah? That we're not hearing. So I've done everything I can on a small platform that I've got to try and get this information out there. But do I think Edward Heath was a pedophile? Yes, I've spoken to Michael Tarragher and somebody called James Reeves, Mike Veal, Chief Constable of Wiltshire Police who led the investigation into looking into whether Edward Heath, the former prime minister was a pedophile. I know about him and I know what's happened to him since he tried to lead that investigation and lead the truth. It was Edward Heath a pedophile. You asked me what I can say with conviction. I believe with conviction our former prime minister Edward Heath was a pedophile. One other thing I can say with conviction, I believe BBC Panorama have produced programs that have displayed very dodgy journalistic ethics and they've had an agenda and they have presented lies. And I'm happy as a journalist to come forward and say that. They could sue me if they like. I've got enough evidence to support those statements. Has anybody ever came forward, a friend you worked with and says, what the fuck are you doing? Take a step back. You're going crazy. No. My friends talk to me about waitress closing or who's going to win, but it's okay. See, I would say they were brainwashed more than anything. Do you know what I mean? We'll touch on the Syria thing again for people who don't understand that. Some people call that a false flag event where they'll set up a war zone or they'll set up a school shooting where they say people have been murdered and what happens is like stuff like Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, they say they'd set up, they say Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but again, they never ever found any weapons of mass destruction. What they wanted was a gold, poppy fields, money, oil, stuff like that. So when you watch the news, people believe what this mud sticks. Well, look what happened in Saudi Arabia and the journalist that was murdered in the embassy. You know, I believe I'm gonna be wrong, but in Saudi Arabia, you can be stoned for being gay and they're our friends, yeah? We're not going to overtake that regime. What about all the, but we did with Hussein, I see it, right? These countries all around the world because I studied anthropology. What's that? Anthropology is a study of culture and preservation of whatever society you want to create. So I live on a street, okay? And there's all these different houses and all these different families in these houses. And I think to myself, that could be Syria, that could be Iraq, that could be Afghanistan. And there may be a dictator in that house that I don't like and I don't like the ways to speak into his children. I don't like the fact that they have no freedom, but do I have a right to knock down their door and shoot the father? It's not up to me and it's not my choice. That is a society in the system that they have created. Do I go in? And what is my real motive actually to go in? Is it to do with the natural resources of that country? Have I been given some kind of motivation? I was talking to somebody who knows somebody who works at BAE Systems and they've said that they're feeding, they're giving arms to Saudi Arabia and what's happening in Yemen and the huge starvation in Yemen, children dying of starvation is because of the money that they're giving to Saudi Arabia. But I am not an expert on this. I'm an expert on Westminster pedophile ring. I'm an expert on that. If you talk to me about that, I can talk to you at length. I can talk to you about the people I've met face-to-face like this. Journalists who've worked for ITV, national newspapers who are trying to expose it. I've talked to victims of politicians. I've spoken to them face-to-face. You talked to me about Saudi Arabia or Syria or weapons of mass destruction. I was in Oxford when the David Kelly story broke and I've spoken on a forum at ITV Central News. We still have a Facebook group and the cameraman have come forward and said, that was dodgy. Charles Galloway actually said he's making a documentary about David Kelly. Good. Is that the boy who suicided? David Kelly shot himself in the head or something. Yeah, he was a weapons inspector and they alleged that he committed suicide. They alleged that Epstein committed suicide and it's very difficult because people are only seeing these conversations in this news on the alternative media and they're waiting for it to be validated by the mainstream media, but it never will. You've got to be convicted and you've got to not be scared of shame. So you just said to me, has anyone come forward and said to you, you crazy? No, they're crazy. No, I don't mean that in a bad way. They are crazy. Yeah, I know what you mean. Everybody, we're all on different paths. But it takes a while. Don't expect it to happen overnight, okay? I saw how it happened with me. That guy I met, 2016, started showing me stuff about 9-11 and it took me a good couple of years. So you always have to remember the person you were when you heard this information and you've got to be very aware of cognitive dissonance and how difficult it is to untrust. That's a word. Untrust, something you've trusted. And again, five years from now, it might be something totally different. We've just got to try and enjoy the path that we're on and out. Also, when you're digging into that kind of stuff, do you ever feel drained? Tired? Thank you. People say to me, I mean, I went to see a counselor because I was struggling. I was really struggling. And they said that I had taken on the trauma of the abuse victims. So when you hear sad stories all the time and you empathize, you can end up carrying it. You have the trauma, you experience the trauma. And I try my best to take a break. But at the end of the day, if children are being abused right now, which I believe that they are, then that's far worse than what I'm going through. How bad does it know compared to the 80s and 90s when Saafo was about and it was more... Well, at least say you're a victim, you're a child and you're a victim of abuse. One, that you've got some power and that you've got a mobile phone. And two, you've got a place to publish your footage. So you've at least got that outlet to get out some kind of truth. But if you look at the story of former Scotland Yard Detective John Wedger or Maggie Oliver, he was exposing, you know, children, teenagers. So John Wedger talked about in Central London how he found children's homes. He would go missing every weekend. They were living in foster homes or care homes. And he found that they were being groomed by pimps, got onto class A drugs, basically being pimped out. And when he raised it with his boss, he was threatened. He said, you've uncovered something, we don't wanna get out. You're gonna lose your job, your family and your home. John Wedger's stuff is all over YouTube if anyone wants to listen to his testimony. So this was back in 2005, this was happening. So that's not that long ago, is it? Children in care. So your question was, is a children in care right now in London, age of 12 to 14, 15, being groomed, being pimped out and are they being sexually abused for money? Yes, they are. Still extreme, still, because a lot of people are speaking out about it now, a lot of people are getting hope from the people who are speaking out, Michael, himself. The pedophiles didn't all just disappear in 1995 now. The scary thing is the same, one in every 30s get pedophile tendencies. One in every 30, that's one in every street. Do you think there's enough things in place for pedophiles who maybe have the thoughts to go and do what they're gonna do, but is there enough things in place to get help? Well, this is the thing, stop, you know, if they had a place where they could go and say, look, I don't wanna be like this, I need some help. But they're vilified, you know, the villains and stuff and they may have been a victim of child sex abuse themselves. I don't know, I don't know. I've never had a pedophile contact me and say, well, this is my story and please help me. I don't know, I don't honestly can't answer that question. Yeah, so what do you think the biggest cover-up then and the BBC has been so far from pedophile rings? What would you say allegedly that you think was the biggest cover-up that's still getting covered up to this day? Well, I guess Edward Heath, Edward Heath, the former minister. How bad was it? What they've done with Jamie Savill. And I always say with these examples, bring them back to the family. So if you had a close friend, you'd find that they'd covered up for a pedophile for years and that pedophile had continued to abuse children. Would you continue to be friends with them? No. So why do we continue to trust the BBC? Then last fact, what they did are they covered up for Jamie Savill, yeah? Mm-hmm. But it's never went to court. Well, because he's dead. Because he's dead. They could still not bring it to a trial. So were the victims coming and speaking, no? I don't know whether they got a conversation. I mean, you see lots of other people are getting, finally getting justice is coming out about. I know there's another Heath who's involved at Chelsea Football Club and, you know, the Catholic Church and different private schools, you know, they are putting certain people out there and saying they were a pedophile and they're getting, they're uncovering this. See, I worked with a man called Terry Mullins. And one of my podcasts, there was a boy who was charged with murder. Terry Mullins gave the boy a lie detector in prison and his mum, both of them passed. He's got equipment now, which is an eye test, also the polygraph test, where it's 100% accurate. So I'm thinking, I used to say, I said to him, do you think they should use these tests in schools for teachers, for priests, to ask them a question of the sexual attracted to kids? I think it's something that should be done because the numbers seem to be rising. It seems to be getting worse. But I feel as if people who work with kids should put under a polygraph test and ask them, are the sex attracted to kids? I agree, but let's, I mean, 100%, but I'm focusing on making sure if you are sexually abused or if you are victim of abuse, you go to the police, like Michael Tarragay ran to the police when he was six years old and wasn't believed. One, we raise awareness of people are aware that this is happening, but two, that they do have an outlet and a platform to tell their stories and wishes what you're giving people, you know, you're giving people a chance to tell their stories and I'm training people with their mobile devices, giving them a chance to tell their stories. So you can bully someone, right? So this woman that I know called Jan Cruikshank, she was working for an organization. She was sexually abused. She alleged that she was raped. She had a very small Facebook following. She's an easy target. She's got nowhere to tell her, she can't come back. So the boss that did it to her kept his job and she lost her job. But now she's got a big Twitter following. I've taught her how to do video with subtitles. She got 600,000 retweet reach last week. She cannot be silenced, yeah? This is what's so wonderful now about new media is you cannot silence. So if you are being abused, if you are being bullied, you have a chance to come out and say, well, you can't do it because I'm going to talk to James English. So I'm going to talk to Anna Breece and I'm going to learn and I'm going to build my following and I'm going to get this story out there and we will find out what you did to me. Because you do videos now, you help people build their social media from videos. How can people get in contact with you for that? So I've just, what we're trying to do, so I met a victim of horrific child sexual abuse called Michael Tarragher. I helped him publish his book and every single penny from that goes to help in training people. So I ran a course last week which is completely free. Accommodation, food, training, all paid for for two days in Birmingham for people that probably called the TV newsroom with their story, but the TV newsroom didn't want to know. So I'm going to show them how to get past it and do it themselves. So these courses I'm running, all people need to do is please follow me on Twitter at Breece, Anna, B-R-E-S, Anna. So Twitter's quite a big one or they can contact me via my Facebook, my website, which is www.breecemedia.co.uk and my email address is on there. So if they want to get in touch, so we obviously hope to sell more books and... Birkin people get your books, we'll plug it again. Anna, that would be fantastic if you... Yeah, no, we'll put their links. Well, Michael's book's called Meat Rack Boy, that's on Amazon, independently published on my ad and making last month 300 pounds a month. Just completely reduced it ourselves. I think that'll grow. I think the more the story gets told, I think more people will... Well, every single penny then will help other people tell their story. Yeah, the one that's made from these books go towards the victims, which is a good thing. What is your main outcome then? Because this is a never-ending chain for you. This is a never-ending line. If you're deep into this now, this is never-ending. Do you know what I mean? You went too far deep, there's no turning back. So what is your goal then? I've come out publicly and called BUZ Panorama Liars and that's got 80,000 views on Twitter and glass. I can't go back and work for the BBC, that's for sure. All right, TV. I don't know. And I do sound and look and create videos that are just like the BBC. You sound like a BBC and a viewer. I was good, I'm a really good presenter. You are good, the fucking presenter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I could film and edit at the time. No, as good as me, but you try is there. So what's the... So we'll be going back to the BBC, let's go that way. And while the corporate communications training continues on. Because you're very good with your words, allegedly, supposedly. See, I don't. You need to write. This is very important, assistant journalist watching this. Whenever somebody makes an accusation, go and ask them for a right of reply. So you say, so-and-so has accused you of this, this and this. I'm doing it with someone called Victoria Rash at the moment. She was in a BBC panorama in 1992 called in the name of Satan. She said Martin Bashir lied to her before she was contributed and also that she asked for her identity to be removed and it wasn't. So I've done the interview with her. I haven't published it yet. I've gone to BBC panorama, BBC press team has said, these are the questions and accusations. Please respond by Wednesday. If you don't, I will say you make no comment. Always put in the other side. It makes you look better and it makes them look worse. And that's how you do it as a gym. So all the accusations I've made today, you know, about the panorama, at the end of the program, you should turn to Cameron and say, well, we have contacted BBC panorama for response to the allegations made by Anna Brees and they have declined to respond. We wish we have done. So end product, end goal, you try to create as much exposure as possible for these beasts, for these pedophiles to get them shut down and to stop this. It's like a society. It's like the higher powers. It's like, yeah. I keep it quiet. It's like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. It's for people who don't know the higher archies are there. I want all those dark, horrible lies, all that injustice and abuse that's hiding in the shadows for a big light to be shun upon it. And we're going to do it. Yeah, I like that. So moving forward for the future, what's the plans for you? Carry on doing what I'm doing. Yeah. And thank you for talking to me. Not a problem. Anna, would you like to finish off on anything? Allegedly. By the book, Making the News, by Anna Breece, Making the News 2018, Meet Rat Boy by Michael Tarragher. And please follow me on Twitter because it's growing and we're not social media anymore. Not yet. Well, be out of the fucking media. Peace out. Anna, pleasure. Stay safe. Thank you.