 INEK has warned political parties against non-transparent primaries and protests and gun shirts have rocked the River State APC sectarite during a screening ahead of the party primaries. This is PlusPolitics and I'm Kofi Bartel. Welcome and once again you're watching PlusPolitics and PlusTVAfrica. Let's go over to River State where it was all action at the state party sectarite on Wojci Road in the GRE axis of state capital, Port Hackett, gun shots were heard in the air amid protests in the morning that rocked the all-progressives Congress sectarite. During the screening for the state party's House of Assembly candidates, we had hundreds of APC members loyal to the former federal lawmaker, former senator Magnus Abbey, throwing the premises alleging hijack of state assembly as parents screening and ward and state delegate selection now. We are joining us to discuss this adepti spokesperson of the APC in River State, Darlington Wojci and Beth Tell in Teh, who is one of the delegate hopefuls in the all-progressives Congress from the Magnus Abbey side of the party. Let's start with you, Darlington. Good evening to you. Good evening, Oshiz. Thank you for joining us. We've seen the videos and pictures of pandemonium, if you want to call it that, at the River State all-progressives Congress sectarite on Wojci Road in the upscale GRE area of Port Hackett. What happened today? This is just into your intro, and I want to say that, as you are aware, just yesterday, the National Security Service of this party did not release the state screening committee for the House of Assembly, a nation, and also the World and Local Government Congress committee. So that committee is actually a well-proposed committee. The members of the committee came in sometime yesterday, and immediately, obviously, to start their work. They did a bit of advertisements on a radio station calling for a state vote that's meeting for 9 a.m. this morning, 9 a.m. this morning, and before 9 a.m. this morning from our investigation, at this a.m., some misguided youth, in the name of persons supporting the Senate of the House of Representatives, had invaded the party sectarite. Meanwhile, if you would recall, the last time I granted an interview to this station, it was before the National Convention of the Party, and on the other side, we had Nisdato Nyokocha. Recall the fact that Nisdato Nyokocha did alleged that children make up the case. He's not the authentic oligopartisan man of this university. And I raised serious arguments and serious questions about the litigation and the litigation of whatever it was, because the court has said previously. I raised issues that there was a court, an exorcism court, a matter. All facts, the legality of the why, of the tenure sheets, all the systems of French America. I say this because it is fundamental to this very argument, this issue. The fact that the same Chief Omega BK led escorts, the same party sectarite manned by Chief Omega BK, was today invaded by persons who were sponsored by Senators Magnus at the Coordinated by Nisdato Nyokocha. And so I began to ask myself questions. If indeed, Nisdato Nyokocha and Senators Magnus believed that Chief Omega BK is not the authentic German of the party, why invade the party premises, making unnecessary and irrelevant demands on the party? Now, the screening and the world and local government congress committee has been calling for the meetings for Nisdato Nyokocha. You have not waited to listen to that committee, what they have to say. And the guys have to roll out for today's congresses and the screening as such. You went ahead, sponsoring people to invade the party premises. Now, what was the intention of invading the party premises? And how would you now, you know, define or describe or substantiate your previous allegations, have been claimed that Omega BK was not German of this party? Why now come into, you know, invade the party premises? It means not the party chairman. What does a man who you claim is illegal or occupying an office illegally, what does he do about to do with enforcing any act of legalities? So I raise questions as part, the humanity of those, both those sponsoring the protest and those protesting, because the arguments for the past four or five years has been that there is a fashion in a piece in reverse. And I might ask, what is wrong with them holding their own factional congresses, holding their own personal screening exercise and submitting it to Abuja because they bought their funds from Abuja and refused to submit their forms to protocols. So what stop them from going to Abuja for their screening exercise? All right, Darlington would you please permit me to bring in... These are fundamental questions you should raise to whoever is speaking. All right, Darlington, Darlington would you thank you very much. I would like to bring in at this point, Bethel Intek, who is a delicate hopeful for the All Progressives Congress or from the All Progressives Congress in River State. Bethel, are you there? Hello, Bethel Intek, can you hear me please? All right, we'll try very best to get Bethel Intek back with us on the line. But Darlington, you're going back to an interview we had some time ago. I can hear you loud and clear. When we had a member of your party... Oh, Bethel, are you there? Yeah. All right, we'll get back to Bethel as soon as we can so that he can give us his own take care. But Darlington, are you there please? Yes. All right, so you're going back to a time in your party when of course you had factions, we know about the Magnus Abbey faction and you're trying to say that if they believe what they are saying and make up the case, it's not the authentic, bona fide chairman of your party. What were they doing at the party sectarian? But do you know who those aggrieved or protesting as parents are? Are all of them supporters of Magnus Abbey? Have you spoken to them one by one? Do you have their names to know who they support? I've spoken to them from their chance. If you have, I just read the reporter on the ground if you've seen the video, if you've monitored the video and listened closely and carefully, you have heard them chanting no Magnus, no APC. And I wonder if all this while the activities of Magnus Abbey has clearly demonstrated the fact that he is technically no longer a member of the All Progressive Congress Party in the party considering the fact that he has not even validated his membership of the party. And so I wonder why the confusion and unnecessary force being built around the Magnus Abbey's gubernatorial ambition because you cannot put something on nothing. The fact that he has no home base as far as we are concerned in all the Congress party in the party the senator with all due respect has no home base. Because if you belong, if you claim that you belong to the political party then you must subscribe to all his rules, rights, rudiments and the regulations they have. So for him to be running parallel to what the party is doing in Riverside he showed clearly that he is anti-the development of this thing in Riverside and we cannot take him seriously. Bethel, are you there please? Can you hear us? I can hear you clearly. Fantastic. So you've listened to Darlington, would you? He said that he's questioning the purpose of those who came to protest at the APC sector this morning bearing in mind the fact that those who are loyal to Magnus Abbey in the APC in Riverside had refused to recognize the leadership of the make up, BK led state working committee. Yes, I'll say that that is not an issue. The issue is that right from KT 18 we have had this recording of the next month that 25 members make effort to participate in a theme election of party position that we are all with these powers to ensure that those of us who have some special commitment because they don't have the space to face with some people. Yesterday we got a little bit of information on the issue of the party position. I'm sure that these are all taken away by other state projects or have students who are both here. We got a rumor that We are very very proud of our own people. In full line at all their work. I tell you at this moment, I feel become confused. In one hand, you are saying that we could have been in the United States. And in the other we are asking people to learn also photographs. So we make our way to the party secret. In theaters, cigarettes, and I am also keeping that secret. I hope we are almost to level this money. As I am talking to you, the members of the United States of the Farms get to work against us. So hundreds of policemen from Hulons are brought to the party to help. To be sure I don't have access. I brought to contest as a delegate for the forthcoming government relation as a state delegate. There are hundreds of persons who brought from either from state delegates or the world delegates. AGA delegates. So our people too, who brought from to contest. All of those came, you know. John Netsch, the world note that the issue of APC that started 2018 that is also the case. All because of what I'm seeing. And we are treated with gunshots, chargers, you know, booking two weapons against members. We have, as I'm talking to you have, what impact you take on that great secret treatment. So the important thing that has to do with, is not to make up the case. Make up the case is not the church, not the screening committee stroke delegate election. And if we do not recognize, we make up the committee. The committee we are not aware of the fact. The committee are only known and only seen, and only found by those who are a family. So how can you have an honest context where somebody has been given a big, large advantage over you. He doesn't work that way. All material notes from this side have been denied off. We couldn't have looked into the forms, the results, the techniques again. What are we contesting for? Is it like an results already written before the context? So these are the issues we are seeing. And I didn't have to be aware of it, but it's not today's matter. Somebody needs to be, but not yet like a demo, not allowed to follow the norms. It's not something that you converse for support, and people will not decide whether to support you or to support somebody else. But in the course of APC, and which will never allow democracy to reign, he will only want to see them in his fellow, and draw in his, and find his way, and put pressure on the party hierarchy in Abuja, to adopt him. Bethel, hold the thought. Let's bring in Bethel at this point. First question. Anyone at APC? Two tango bomb, we lost. Bethel, can you pause for a second? Bethel, sorry. Let's bring in Bethel at this point, because Bethel, you've raised some important points. Now, you are an aspiring delegate of the party, and you intend to be a part of the process. Are you saying that you are denied any form or any opportunity to be part of the process? I know that people who are also intending to be a part of the process to become candidates for the House of Assembly election were part of the process. For instance, I spoke this evening to Noble George Ford, who is a State House of Assembly aspiring for the Omoma State constituency. You're saying that they were denied nomination forms. I come to you, Darlington, and would you, what do you say to this allegation that those who came out to protest today were denied nomination forms and had no other way to vent their feelings? Darlington. I was almost listening to my patients listening to the pedestrian lines of the young man, Bethel. I was almost losing my patience listening to him. I am disappointed in the fact that the use of this generation has decided to give themselves to fabrications and lies. It is tragic for our nation to have these kinds of persons who want to lead the next generation. Now, let me say this clearly. Coffee, we can hold on for the next five minutes for the producer of this program to place a call on your colleagues in Potacot. Can we hold on for five minutes so that the producer will get journalists who are in Potacot to confirm to you? If indeed, because I listened to him saying that there were hundreds of policemen when I got to the party sector this morning I was drugged by my loving wife and I only met three regular policemen at the gate. We have had the avalanche, hold on coffee because we cannot trade online we cannot be living online coffee I am no longer interested in this if we continue with this interview if what I am hearing is only lies please coffee and I am saying that the young man who is claiming that the screening committee was nowhere to be found can we please confirm from journalists if they interact with the screening committee today please at the party sector can you confirm if the stakeholders meet in health today at the party office can you help to confirm if the screening of candidates help today please if you confirm that we cannot continue with this interview I am tired of this Darlington I think you Darlington would you Darlington you are doing you are performing your responsibility to speak on behalf of the party after your principal Beth are you there he says that you are not being truthful that he saw only three police men at the party sector this morning so where did the gunshots and the tear gas you are claiming were fired at you come from can I say something I think a great exception for somebody calling me darling all over Papago today journalists were there Nangiras were there we have hundreds of policemen various units of Nangiras police were mobilized to the party secretaries who without any kind of provocation from the peaceful party lawyer party members who came to just express their dissatisfaction with what the committee from Arugia were trying to do not any provocation of any kind I was a leading leader in this and what happened today and I was at the front front of everything that happened no one person from among the protesters that caused anything that warranted the level of violence that were made on us guns were used like bullets it was like we were in Iraq the way Papago was shaking if you check most of the Papago residents different platforms we are sharing the information on their platforms it was a public something chargers were used people were injured people were in the hospital I can upload videos and pictures of people who sustained there are degrees of injury let us see let us see anything to handle as I am saying as standard what I have said earlier the committee has to be nourished we have to have people on ground around the national parties to be nourished the committee and the people of Jordan what they were with these people and the materials and the effort for us to to reach out to these people was totally not just for him now we are told that they were arrived in Papago today but from what I am telling you we got that actually in Papago yesterday now they say we are going to meet today by 9 for take-out meeting around the party almost in a blue and as I am talking to you as I am back on my life they get to a shot against us because men were in linear they didn't allow us to even go close to the gates they had to shoot back so and we were not anywhere around the secret to Lebanon they were not there I am telling you this is all honesty cannot come out who is calling me a liar to go to all the streets and say the the committee committee they were in there we were there and we were asking for them to come and address us and give us our form and let us see the capability of what they want to do maybe also to stand we are searching when with bullets and chargers now after all the discussion they did on us this evening with the head of police and other security personnel they brought them and said they had a take-out meeting I don't have democracy are we doing democracy like we are spending something it's supposed to be a public something that all the processes will be followed by all those who are involved you are the deputy spokesman for the party in the state did the stakeholders meeting hold today? we don't have we are party members better please hold on better please hold on how the process is led by the party from this side can you please give me a second so we can have Darlington respond to what you said Darlington did that stakeholders meeting with the screening committee hold today? okay it seems we have lost Darlington Darlington can you hear me please yes I can hear you now did that stakeholders meeting hold today? please come again the stakeholders meeting with the screening committee that was meant to hold today as announced did it hold? a couple of minutes ago I challenged you to ask your to get in touch with your colleagues in Potacot I'm concerned and I did affirm that indeed the stakeholders meeting held today the screening exercise for her to attend the aspirants also held today but you heard Darlington please I want to also inform you that the persons who are led that they are looking for forms and they are looking for screening committee actually procuring their forms for Mabuja they did not pay for those forms in Potacot that's in the APC part of the same Potacot so there is no way you can put something on nothing if you recall my last interview with Tonyo Kochan I made some fundamental I put some fundamental issues which was unable to adequately defeat so Darlington are you are you saying that Darlington please hold the thought yes that the death is what claiming that they are looking for screening committee actually procuring their forms for Mabuja hold on Bethel are you aware that those who were protesting with you the assembly aspirants bought their forms from Mabuja and not the APC party office in Potacot the likes of Noble, George Ford and Co Darlington please hold on Bethel where did your colleagues your party fellow party men who were protesting with you today who were locked out as you said where did they purchase their forms from forms and other material to this committee that was negotiated yesterday but this committee have given those things to those who are loyal to the minister remember I told you that the vice chairman is actually the one the minister the minister the committee the minister have already compromised so instead of being dependent there are actually the minister so the cons and other material they are supposed to also make it available to us have been denied us this is the heart and he knows the man who is calling on that knows that he is denying from his heart to heart he is the one that is the actual liar in this scenario I am saying that I understand after the inauguration they went away with these persons who couldn't find them the identity of them were unknown to us so how do you have how do you have George with you that kind of matter when and I am already taking side with one of the parties Bethel are you saying that you were denied access to purchase the forms you were saying that what time was it the time of 9 am the same 9 am even though we did not get the information what does it mean I told you I was there to leave them and these persons were not anywhere to be found the only person who came around that place and started the police was a seeker I was there to leave them these persons were not anywhere to be found the only person who saw their group I can say they were the policemen these are the police I can say somebody who saw the police they saw the policemen we should be careful what you say to the police Bethel please especially what happened what they have today they saw this they had Bethel we have to move on Bethel you seem to be saying that the opportunity to purchase the forms was denied these aggrieved if that is what you are saying I will come back to Darlington what do you say to these they have the forms and they were refused these forms he is also saying they came out to attend the stakeholders meeting and they were barred from entering into the premises what do you say to this Darlington let me let me repeat myself can I repeat myself can I repeat myself now I told you that I was dropped off to the office by my wife for 90 years and when I got there we only had a complement of three policemen that are regular you are moving far from one way what I asked hello Darlington please for the past two weeks any family please please please please Darlington the police have to send and ask for a reinforcement please Darlington was the form available in every aspirant or was it denied some people was the form available to now I am also telling you that for the form they actually procured their form from Abuja they were insisting let me tell you this decision to say the whole truth maybe if it does not let him know now that his principles we are insisting that they bought their form from Abuja that they should be screened there at Abuja instead of everybody and the committee insisted that that was wrong but I get to come and rule over people your principles are important we must come down to protocol for the screening and that was why they quickly got forms to barricade and embrace the party premises Darlington let's allow Bethel quickly respond to what you have said Darlington let's quickly allow Bethel to respond to what you have said Bethel please go on you are about to respond Bethel respond please very quickly what I am seeing there is no form there are no forms people who are living in the park or another one if you check I have the publication for the National they make it very explicit that banks pay a money so when you pay the party will make available these forms to you so when you say when you say pay to a bank you pay or then and they give you the bank how does that relate to you buying at Abuja or you buying at Papakos that is totally not true we have to pay our money to disintegrated banks you understand so anywhere you can go into the bank and pay the money then the party will make available these forms to you now the party will make available these forms to this committee this committee we are adjourned this committee we are adjourned and this today is not the first this is the subject from 2018 when the minister adjourned all the process and keep on doing same and it cannot produce any prospective results we don't have that network we don't have been a democrat a peace loving Nigeria now between the ten of our former national chairman Diego Diego and to that of Adams and to the last capital committee there are more than ten committees but we are set to intervene on the issue of reverse day to bring some level of oneness the minister all efforts to bring peace we are all partied by the minister's action so is not about out there or not out there if you take the minister out there you can see that even today one of the donors is also crying out for this not the matter of is a matter that the minister has brought that he will not allow transparency justice and fairness to play out in reverse ABC and at that time the minister always taking the structure of the party and it cannot produce any results as said earlier the minister was the 15th governor and we did election 2015 we lost we did it wrong, we lost we won election we won party we won the we won the three aspects and we won assembly we took 2019 the minister was the manager of presidential campaign he is going to have zero so we don't have anything to be afraid of how can we be afraid of cleaning basically we have their qualifications so how can they be afraid of doing nothing how is that supposed to mean the cleaning is not Bethel, thank you let's just take the final word from Darlington before we go let them see how can we be afraid of doing anything bring us to a future I'm afraid that's the last we can take from you Bethel the presidential has demonstrated the high degree of compromise with the minister by their conduct and there is no evidence of justice and fairness what they have done you give us time 9 o'clock that you'll be there for the next 15 people even on safety-homos level you are not there we are not there All right. We have to go. Gentlemen, we have to go. I apologize for the audio issues. Bethel, if you can hear me, we have to call it a day. Hello, Bethel, are you there, please? Thank you very much, Bethel and Teh. He is an APC delegate, hopeful. He was part of the protest right there at the APC security in River State where gunshots and tear gas were set to have been fired. Of course, you've seen the clips and video and reports on plus TV happened this morning. We've also had the deputy spokesperson for the All Progressives Congress in River State, Dallington, would you, who also give the party position, official position. We will be monitoring the unfolding events in River State, not just from the All Progressives Congress, but also from the People's Democratic Party, the PDP in River State and indeed around the country ahead of the 2023 general elections. Of course, Annika said they are shifting or changing the dates for the primaries and the conclusion of the party primaries. We've since fairly apologized for the audio and network issues we've had today. We promise you it's going to get better. Well, thank you for staying with us and that's it on Plus Politics for tonight. My name is Kofi Bartels. We return tomorrow with more on politics in Nigeria. Good night.