 Welcome to, welcome to, we did end up on the double shot. I wasn't sure, we're giving Ryan endless crap about his framing. Welcome to the shows of tomorrow. My name is Jamie Higginbotham, um, we are trying a whole bunch of new things inside of our Eevee Mux today, so who knows how this is going to work, uh, how well this will actually look. So yay, look at this, I just want to point out, Ryan, there you go, he's this way, no he's this way, he's, I can't do it, ah! He's actually framed correctly and it is killing him. He's dead a little bit on the inside. Um, well, alright, let's get straight into it, there was a, I saw that India was, I think it's for the third time now, uh, sending, they're trying to send a payload to the moon, is that correct? Yes. Uh, let me call that back up, sorry I didn't have my note handy, I was so busy cropping shots that, uh, but they've only launched, they haven't actually tried to land anything and if I remember correctly, their previous shots for going to the moon were not successful. Like the rocket launches themselves were fine, but then like, actually, landy, landy, um, yeah, no work. This is the third attempt, they've attempted to land once before, this is their third, this is their third Chandrayaan mission, their third moon mission, they've tried to land once before, uh, didn't go too well, um, uh, trying again, they've got a, they've got an orbiter, uh, a lander and a rover on, a rover on the lander, um, so three different components of the mission and they're going to try and land, lander and then roll out a rover to rove. I just want to say didn't go too well, in aerospace, didn't go too well is, um, I feel like that's a very understated way of saying made an impact crater or, uh, hard landing. It wouldn't be litho breaking, it would be, uh, regolith breaking, regular break, lute regolitho, my, my, my breaking, wouldn't litho break, isn't litho earth? Yeah, but I feel like it's a, it's a, it's a planetary surface. So I feel like litho breaking still applies. All right. All right. Fair enough. So I guess if we wanted to pull like the Latin prefix for it, then I guess it should be like salina breaking or something like that. They also signed the Artemis, Artemis accords, uh, moderately recently. So, uh, Artemis is like getting bigger and batter and more awesome. Um, like just, that was just a random, random thought. That was India that just recently signed, right? Yeah. And they're also doing some space station stuff in, uh, 2024, I think soonish, some missions and the things. So collaborate, more collaboration between, um, the US and India. So around the room, uh, you know, landing something on another planet, well, I'm just going to say planetary body. And then I realized that Jared would get very angry for me calling the moon a planet. Um, but another, uh, what am I trying to say, slash your body? Um, what do we think the chances of, um, defining success in aerospace is hard, right? Because it's almost never 100%. But what do we think the chances of them at least meeting main objectives are around the room? We'll start with you, Jared. Okay. Jared is this way. Mine is this way. I got it. I got it. It's all just reversed for me. Well, Jamie, I just wanted to say first off, I don't think anybody's going to be mad about you throwing planetary science at the moon because it's called planetary science for a reason. Also, if you want to be like me and you want to make, uh, planetary science is really, really mad. Uh, you could call the earth and the moon a binary planet system because it's big enough that it just is. Uh, so, uh, what do I think this, the Chandra on three. I think it'll be, I'm going to throw 70% out there. I think the chances are definitely higher than Chandra on two. Uh, well, we'll have to see, we'll have to see if all of the data that they were able to get back, uh, years ago from that mission has been applied and understood and learned. And I feel like if anybody's going to be able to do it, um, this rose pretty good at that. Uh, they have a good track record on their missions after their first attempts, uh, simply because they're excellent at figuring things out. Uh, and I feel like that's one of ISRO strengths, which is that they don't necessarily get it right on the first mission, but they are really good at the analysis, the, the failure analysis and looking at everything after that and then figuring out how to apply that to their, their future and subsequent missions that come after that. So I'd say this is the 70%. I feel like there's a really good chance that they're actually going to get this when the land on the moon. So Darren Green says in the comments in the chat room, a hundred percent this time. That's a good, that's aggressive. Darren, a hundred percent. That's a lot, um, question though. So, you know, doing post failure analysis is one thing, but you don't know what you don't know, right? So like, let's just say they had a failure previously, but there were three things that would have failed after that failure. You don't know about those other things. And so who knows what else is, you know, the universe is a cold, hostile place, right? Like you hold it 70% with the idea that, like, you know, maybe there's more that could have failed. Yeah. And to ISRO, as far as I understand, success is simply landing on the moon. Anything after that is a bonus, uh, because that was what Chandra on two is about. Chandra on one was simply an orbiter, which was successful. Chandra on two was an orbiter and a lander combined together. Orbiter was successful still at the moon. Lander didn't work. This one is also the exact same thing. We have another orbiter and a lander involved. So, um, as far as I know, the payloads are relatively the same on the lander as well. There's like a very small rover, uh, from the United Arab Emirates and a few other instruments that ISRO has developed themselves. So, uh, yeah, I feel like the, the we landed is the real success and then anything beyond that, you know, that's kind of, that's kind of how it goes. So. Darren is backing up the comment, yet you have to be optimistic. And yes, landing is the objective. And Larry King, Larry King is also agreeing 100% the engineer in me, the engineer in me cannot give you 100%. I refuse to do it. I'll give you, I'll give you five nines. I'll give you five nines. I'm not giving you 100% of 95%. Oh God, Ryan, why do you hurt me? You purposely hurt me. Uh, all right, I'll give you 100% of five nines. How's that? Ryan, wait, wait, I think I can turn. I think I'll read this out. Ryan, what do you think the percentage is? Uh, I don't know. I don't, I don't want to speculate and then be wrong. And then people go back and say, you are wrong. But if I had to make it, but Jamie's forcing me to make a guess. So I'm going to guess 68% successful. And that is a percentage of another percentage. Jamie is forcing me. We're going to make sure it's to say Jamie is four. By the way, chat room, when we were on the single shot of Ryan and I was talking, could you hear the first part of my sentence or did that get cut off? Cause I'm not sure. So I don't know if they could either. Really? Mm hmm. Mm hmm. So you can only hear me when I'm on the screen. I think so. This is going to be an interesting show. Uh, cool. Thank you, Mac. All right. All right. Uh, understood. So, um, all right, we're going to make sure it's lost my train of thought. Welcome to technology. Um, doing technology, you live. Yeah. I made a bunch of changes and I wanted to, you know, I just wanted to see. Okay, uh, Jared, how about we hand it over to you? What, what, what inspired you in space this week? Uh, well, I don't know if I would call it inspiration, but it was definitely more of that sort of like reality check, uh, that ends up happening with space flight every once in a while, or should I say all the time? Um, which is that we're looking at doing Mars sample return as like the next big thing, right? Like that is the absolute, that is one of the holy grail missions for us to want to do. And that's going to be a very complicated beast. Like there is no way to get around the fact that that is going to be a incredibly difficult mission, um, for us to pull off. Uh, but one of the things, uh, wait, what's so hard about going to a foreign planet millions of miles away, landing, grabbing something, lifting back off and coming back to earth and then successfully deploying that on earth. Also, that is for the record. How the zombie apocalypse starts. Oh, okay. Uh, well, well, you know, Jamie, somebody's got to get it started after all. Uh, but the, the thing about, uh, Mars sample return with it is, is all of those elements, there's really a lot of elements, right? Like I pulled it up on my screen here for you to take a look at, which are all of the elements that we're thinking about. So one of those elements is already there, which is perseverance and perseverance does have a system that allows, will be called sample caching, but there's a lot of things that have to go into this as well. We have to develop a orbiter that can go to Mars. We have to. Jared, Jared, are you sharing your screen? Yeah, it should be. No. So no, it's not, no, welcome to the technology show. This one's going to be less about space than all about technology. Yeah. All right, cool. Well, let me, oh, it says that, uh, oh, okay. It says EVMUX doesn't support it on my operating system. Good stuff. On, are you on Mac? Yes. That's what it says. Are you on Safari? No. All right. No, good times. Thank you, EVMUX. Uh, if they ever, if they ever need real time feedback, they should watch our show. Um, but, um, you know, you're having to build a. Orbiter to get to Mars, you having to build a lander to land on Mars, you having to build a lander or a rocket that can fit on your lander as well. That's still potent enough to get your samples into orbit around Mars. You also have to have something to retrieve the samples, which right now, uh, the leading retriever, I guess, the leading dog, uh, for doing that is, uh, a, a upgraded version of ingenuity, the Mars helicopter, um, in addition to that, you got to have an ability, you got to have the ability with your orbiter to be able to burn back to the earth. And then you got to be able to make sure those samples get to earth. You also, I think a lot of people forget about this part, which is that you also need to make sure that you have a system in place that doesn't allow those samples to get contaminated at any point. Um, in our discord, which if you're not in it, you should definitely join it. Um, we had a pretty interesting discussion, uh, the other day about contamination and planetary protection and other stuff to the point that I think I now want to make a video for tomorrow about planetary protection. So everybody can learn, uh, that what they thought would work is actually wildly incorrect. Um, and there's a big problem though, which is that this is starting. First of all, it costs money. That's a problem, right? Um, secondly, usually the money that you want for your mission. Actually isn't the amount of money you need. Usually you need just a little bit more than that. Uh, for some missions, you end up needing a lot more. Like, I don't know, three or four times the amount that you originally thought you were going to need at the start. Uh, question. What was James Webb? What was James Webb? Was it three or four times? James Webb was originally supposed to be just about $500 million. So, and it only, it only went 20 times over budget. So it's fine. Um, so don't worry. Hey, you know what? James Webb, you know, Jelloscope started in the late eighties and by the time it was done and was ready to go at $10 billion, that I think that accounted for inflation very nicely, um, with that there. I'm sure all of the economics people watching the show would agree with me. Uh, 100% there. Um, but yeah, more sample return was supposed to be just a couple of billion dollars. This is a flagship mission, so it's going to be a couple of billion dollars right out of the gate, no matter what you think it should cost. It's a flagship mission. So it's going to be given a lot of budget priority. It's been going to be given a lot of money. The problem is that it's now starting to do something like what James Webb did, which is that those costs are starting to really spiral out of control. Uh, the estimated cost now, more sample return is somewhere in the upper portion of $5 billion, so getting closer to $6 billion. And there's some reports that are saying that if this continues, the overall mission cost could end up being about $10 billion, which there, the problem with that is not necessarily that the people working more sample return are like, Oh man, that's bad. The problem with that is that unlike Gelescope, uh, there's not as much support overall for more sample return. It's not like, uh, you know, Gelescope where the entire spaceflight and astronomy and cosmology community wanted that very, very badly. Uh, more sample return, I don't want to necessarily say it isn't popular, but it is definitely not universally across the board wanted by everybody. So that's a big problem when you start ballooning your budget and potentially eating into other missions, which is that you're not, if you don't really have a lot of support, especially universal support like J.Dubb did, uh, yeah, you're going to have a, actually a really big uphill battle. And if you don't have universal support in Congress here in the United States, which is where you get your funding from, whether you like it or not, um, as we always say, whether you like it or not here in the United States, politics is a critical portion of spaceflight. Um, yeah, and you have to appeal to both the Senate and the House of Representatives, and those are two entities that will bounce budgets back and forth between each other to compromise in your mission may end up getting, you know, it's budget set a certain way in that compromise, which may then end up either enabling your mission like Europa Clipper. Europa Clipper is one of the missions where it was saved in the budget, where the compromise ended up allowing Europa Clipper to actually occur, or your mission may end up like Europa Lander, which was going to be the one off Lander mission that we were going to do, which got destroyed and basically closed out in the budget because nobody could agree to compromise on it. So there it went. So, yeah, so more sample return right now is at a really critical point where it's either got to get itself together in terms of the budget, or, or it seems like it seems like the, uh, it seems like Congress here in the United States is going to smash it and, and, and, and any chance of more sample return happening, but unlike JDAP, the spaceflight community as a whole doesn't seem to be willing to step up to the plate and attempt to save it. It almost seems like everybody has said we're tired of mission budgets going out of control and that if you, if you go over and it cost you your mission, sorry, that's, uh, that's a tough lesson for you to learn, isn't it? So we're almost, I don't want to say the attitude is getting into if he dies, he dies, but it's, it's kind of reaching a point where, yeah, it's, I think people are, I think people within industry are finally getting to a point where they're beginning to understand that budget control is a pretty important thing. And I think that's an interesting thing too, which is that it seems like over the past couple of generations of PIs and, and head engineering divisions and other things like that, there really has been this sort of loss of the ability to control a budget of a mission as well. So I guess there's a lot of hard lessons. On the time scales in which we work on in aerospace. By the way, when Jared was live, we've been working on fixing these scenes behind the scenes. Did you guys hear me when Jared was full screen? Having said that, in the time scales in which aerospace works, it's like, yeah, okay, we're sick of going over budget. But we're already so far into these projects is are a bunch of these really big projects now going to inadvertently get canceled because we don't want to have them go over budget. And like, they, there wasn't enough time for them to realize that, Hey, we need to cut back, right? Because there's, there's a discrepancy between the speed in which society works and the speed in which aerospace works. You know, there are times where I mean, no, no, technically, how do I say this? Trying to figure out a really nice way of saying it, which is that at no point is your mission safe. Right? So there's, there's been a couple of missions recently that NASA did cancel, right out of it, or not right out of the gate, but basically like, well, you couldn't get your budget together. So you're done. One of my I can think of is gems, which is which stands for gravity and extreme magnetism small Explorer, which there's a mission called IXPE, an x-ray telescope that got launched two years ago that basically doing what gems was going to do. But gems was beginning to rapidly balloon and its budget, it was literally becoming four or five times what the budget originally was supposed to be. So that they said, Hey, guess what, you haven't even started building your spacecraft yet. You know, you're done, your mission's over, you, you have shown that you cannot responsibly budget for your mission. So you don't get to responsibly have a mission. And that's the point that Mars sample return is at right now. They're getting into the finalization of the, of the designs of the things that they want from our sample return, but they don't have any of the hardware yet. Hardware is really what separates it. Hardware is what makes or breaks it, I guess, is the way to say that in terms of budget. Usually when you built stuff, that makes a pretty good argument as to why you should continue to do that mission. That was one of the big arguments with J. Dub, which is back in 2011, when they were trying when when the really actual threat of cancellation of J. Dub was happening, most of the telescope had actually already been built by that point. We've already got the hardware. So if you're going to cancel this mission, why are you doing that? Because we already have this hardware ready to go. As Tarshish is pointing out in our chat room, Janice, this is a mission that was supposed to fly with Psyche. And because of Psyche's launch window, that didn't because it got changed, it couldn't couldn't do its mission anymore. So NASA just announced this week that they're going to be putting the two Janice spacecraft in the long term storage. That mission is up in the air now, because of that. Discover the deep space climate observatory. It had a very interesting sort of and it first end to its mission where it was going to be doing work towards climate change. And then a executive branch of the government got voted in that did not did not have a very positive idea as to the science behind climate change. So they basically stopped that mission and put the satellite in long term storage for that. So there's a lot of a lot of different reasons that your mission at any phase could actually be cut. And it's it's really important to make sure that you walk that tightrope as best you can. And it seems like with Mars sample return, they're not really doing that. They think that there's almost this idea that because it's Mars, it's invincible. And it's looking like that's not what's going to actually end up happening. Or is it that we're just going to send humans there to Mars, and then it doesn't matter, right? So like, what the time is to get a Mars return going like SpaceX will have humans on Mars. So this is where that really interesting planetary protection discussion that we had the other day in our discord comes from, which is that you cannot the whole point of doing Mars sample return is to get pristine samples back to the surface of the earth. There are multiple categories of planetary protection. Mars is in the highest tier of those categories. That means that this spacecraft that we send to Mars, especially the ones that we send to the surface of Mars, are some of the cleanest things on this planet. They are baked at high temperatures. Every part is disinfected multiple times throughout the process is not exposed to air. That is anything less than a class 10,000 clean room, which means that for every cubic meter, there are less than 10,000 particles in it. So everybody as everybody has been doing for almost the past decade in spaceflight saying, what about SpaceX? No, it's not going to it's not going to help the SpaceX system with Starship. That's not good for getting pristine samples because I don't know if people are aware of this with Starship is built mostly outside outside. Wait, what? Not the cleanest air. Can you imagine that? Like this? Does anyone hang on? Does anyone know where we can get like a live feed of them building Starship outside? Is that a thing that they can? I don't know. I don't feel like that's a I don't know. Ryan who's just glancing. You can't see him because he's not on screen. He's just glancing side to side. Then I don't know man. I mean, if only there was somebody who has had like a feed that I could see everything like vents and bolts being turned and people dropping hammers. And then we could have articles about it. But yeah, the Starship being built outside. Guess what? Yeah. Yeah, that's that's you are you are that is an unbelievable amount of contamination. And that would be one spacecraft doing that. And essentially, sending people to Mars will also contempt will also be direct contamination of Mars. You just cannot make the interior of a human spacecraft clean. It's it's near impossible. I would just say it's outright impossible to do that. This the instant you open an airlock that people have been inside of on the surface of Mars, that's it. The planet at that point is contaminated. Any any samples that you would get would be considered. It would be very difficult for us to look at that those samples. And if we found back to some sort of life or bacteria, something whatever you want to call it, we'd be very, very difficult to look at that and say, Well, we can't rule out this having not been brought from Earth, because we have people from Earth on Earth. And we know that the stuff on their suits the stuff on them, it's gotten all over the interior of their spacecraft all over the interior of their airlock. Therefore, they are likely contaminated the planet. So no, no, we cannot have people go and grab those samples and do that. We need pristine samples. It was even someone even brought up the idea of perseverance is current samples. So perseverance, the rover has a sample caching system. It's taking samples, it's putting them in little tubes, sealing them off and then dropping them out onto the surface of Mars. And some somebody did bring up the prospect of we have astronauts go and pick those up. The problem is that you then contaminate the outside of your sample tubes there and you risk in the process of bringing the samples back into the laboratory, you you escalate the risk so much that it ends up becoming just as bad as like if I were to go out and breathe on a rock and then bring it back in. It's it's one of those things where you need it. The cleanliness is the critical key to making sure that the samples are right and correct and have what we need. And any anything that can disrupt the process that cleanliness at any level that will ruin it. I know you've okay, I hear your point. And I knew we've driven this point home. But like, arguably, you don't need infinite like there's going look humans are going to Mars. Yes, we're going to contaminate Mars. Like that's why we have to do more sample return as fast as we can. The problem is, no, no, no, what you need is what you're saying is you need a pristine sample of Mars. That doesn't mean it needs to come home. It just needs means you need a pristine sample of Mars, correct? Before humans get there. Right? So there's there's a world in which we get the sample and just leave it on Mars, then humans go and pick it up. Yes, but like I said, the problem is that once humans are in the equation, once you put people in the equation, that the moment the sample comes to hang on the moment the sample comes to Earth, humans are in the equation. But no, here's the thing. We can isolate it from the humans on Mars. It becomes very difficult in order to know you're missing my point. Before we send humans to Mars before a before Starship ever goes, no human has ever stepped foot on Mars. We can send a spacecraft to Mars, grab a sample and not return it and encapsulate it so that it is so it's protected, right? And then a human goes and picks that up and does what they need to do with it and same protections just on Mars. Because if you're saying if you're saying the moment a human touches it and it's contaminated, well, that applies here on Earth to write the moment it hits our atmosphere, it's contaminated. So arguably, it would be a better mission, would it not to leave it on Mars and limit the contamination of whatever spores could hit it on the way back, whatever is hitting it in the atmosphere, whatever is happening to it here on Earth, don't even go through all that. Alls we have to do is make sure that when we approach it on Mars, whatever this container, this capsule is, we don't contaminate just that part of it. So the big, the big problem with just examining it on Mars is that you have to move your laboratory to Mars, which let's do that. That's an awesome thing to do. But also, damn, that's expensive to do something like that. So look, man, we're already sending humans to Mars, right? Why don't we bring it back to Earth as well? Why don't we do both? Because getting it back to Earth is substantially harder, right? That's so who cares? I mean, yeah, when given the option between A and B, let's choose a work when choosing given the option between A or B choose A and B, I don't disagree using my own using my own logic against me. But yeah, all right, fine. Yeah, I do want to say that I couldn't see it. And I couldn't see who it was in the chat room, but somebody in the chat room said that that because robots are an extension of humanity, that we've already contaminated Mars. Well, the thing is, we have protocols, we have unbelievable protocols in place that are designed to handle things like that, right? So these things, all of our spacecraft that go to Mars, including ones that don't land on Mars are built in class 10,000 clean rooms, they're baked at hundreds of degrees Celsius for hours at a time. They are wiped down multiple times with disinfectants during the assembly process. Also, the transit time to Mars helps out a little bit is not the end all be all, which is something we also discussed in our discord chat the other day. But we have everything as clean as it can be. As it can be. You have you see, you had to add a qualifier because you're also an engineer and you're not going to give me a hundred percent. Are you? Thank you for great timing. So so it's not going to be a hundred percent something probably made it through. Yeah, and I know in Josh is saying it doesn't matter how much you clean or how much you clean your robotics, we're going to litter and yeah, so it's contaminated. So here's the thing. You we can make robots a lot cleaner than humans. Humans are infinitely more dirty than robots are. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Jamie. That's the way it is. But you're arguing against yourself. You're saying it has to be the pristine thing before humans arrive. And I think the argument is, but but humans have already arrived. The robots have been there. We have brought humanity with us. The human physically the humans, us in person. But we can still. All right, we're going in circles. We're going to be clean. And just trust me, you ain't convinced me on this one today. I'm not saying that humans aren't dirty. I'm not saying humans aren't dirty. I'm just saying that maybe that plan is not the best utilization of resources with the understanding that humanity is going to Mars. That's my point. That's all. That's it. I don't agree with that. So what do you guys think added into the comments below like you guys are adding into the chat. I'm pointing as to chat rooms as if you can see where our chat room is. But like, yeah. All right, Ryan, you've been eerily quiet. Oh, and I do have the shot of star. I brought up the shot of starship being built out in Starbase. If we wanted to like, it's not a clean room environment, right? It's, it's pretty messy. Yeah, that would that would pretty much ruin just about any chance at any clean sample from Mars. Not a clean room. Not asking how many zeros are we talking about in terms of cleanliness infinite? That's how many we are. So you're welcome. Cool. Ryan, why got you? How's that for a awkward horrible transition? What got you excited about space flight this week? A few things. First of all, Bennett Elder said a while ago in the in the chat room. Evie Muck said it was eight seconds ago, but I don't think it was eight seconds ago. I'm asking, psyche's not on the chopping block, is it? No, it's in a key at the Cape. I've I've a picture on my screen. Dutter of a man pointing to psyche, proving that it is indeed there. It exists. It is going to be launching. I don't know if that's gonna there we go. So there you go. It is indeed there. Someone is pointing to it. There you go. It's just like random dude pointing like point. Yeah. So there you go. It's just it wasn't it wasn't a hardware bug. It was a software bug. And so there you go. Let's move on. Okay, SpaceX, they do cool things, don't they? Okay, so first of all, six dash five. Let's look at this, because they like to reuse their rockets, which makes them cheap. So by reusing their rockets, many, many times brings the cost down. And for the first and the second time, in the space of seven days, they've launched and it landed a booster 16th time each for those boosters. This was the first one starting at six dash five. And this clip is longer than I thought it was going to be. So I'm just going to stall for time a little bit. There we go, landing legs out and Bosch on the drone ship. There you go. That was the worm booster, the one that carried Bob and Doug to the International Space Station and has done 15 other missions now alongside that one. And then starting five 15 later in the week just last night, did the exact same thing again, became the second booster to do to perform 16 flights flawlessly sending the second stage on its way coming back to the drone ship landing doing something that just a decade ago, people would have been laughing at what they were laughing at. And yet we're now 16 flights into this booster, these boosters lives with just one period of refurbishment, which is kind of crazy to think about if you know, you think back to shuttle after every single flight, they those things were meticulously gone through and refurbished. And now they've done a 16th flight after one period of refurbishment on the booster. So there you go. We use ability works and yeah, make space cheaper. I don't know where Jamie's gone, but Nigel says that if the engines being reused to the same extent, we don't really because they don't they don't keep a track of them. And we can't really see the Merlin's apart from when they're in flight. And it's essentially impossible to keep track of the engines. It is known that they have done engine swaps previously on boosters, but we don't know which when and what. So there. Ah, Bennett worm boosters the No, right. So when we do SpaceX stories, I turn off my camera and microphone. You don't I can't talk SpaceX. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. The entire internet noticed I randomly like you're like, I like blah, blah, blah SpaceX. And you just see me go, why am I gone? Where could she have gone? Why? I wonder why I left. I don't understand. Yeah. Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone any of us would disappear at specific reasons and specific points for specific times. But then so and then I'm trying to get back into the show. And so I'm drinking this. All right, fun fact. Toys have nothing to do with space. I'm drinking my cold brew to try to keep myself awake, right? Because after the show, we're going to back up a little bit here. So I moved the shows to Sunday. So first off, thank you, Dada, Jared, Ryan, all of you for being flexible and being like, Yep, I can move the show to Sunday. Dada and Jared, blah, blah. But Ryan, I don't know what time it is there. But like, we keep messing with your schedule. I appreciate your willingness to allow us to mess with your schedule. I go. Yeah. It's seven. Exactly. Okay, that's much better. That's a much better time than before. Yeah. Yeah. You can't say you cropped my bloody frame, but it's there. He's pissed I cropped his frame, but it's been bothering me for like a year. So I just knocked into it. So thank you, everyone. And then thank you viewers for letting me move the show. Everyone's saying this better now. The the reason I moved the show is because at Company X, it was it's insanely difficult now for me to work on Monday or Friday evenings. Whereas before, like Friday evenings was one of my easier days to work. My everything at Company X shifted for me. And now Fridays are very, very bad. So we move the show to Sunday basically to help me. So thank you. So then today's the first Sunday show. And it turns out my whole team is in town. They are currently working without me so I can do this show. I should technically be at work right now helping them out. And I was like, I can't, I cannot cancel on the first time I moved the show. I just can't do it. So I owe my I owe my team dinner, drinks and dinner. They're gonna give me endless hell. I mean, they know they know why. But yeah, yep. It's just really hard at Company X to carve out the time even on weekends. It's just really hard. Oh, so point is, that's why I have the cold brew to keep me awake. I should cover the logo. I have an unnamed company's cold brew to keep me awake. I was gonna say I've got an unnamed company's green drink green drink in order to try to wake me up. So so anyhow, I think unless anyone else has any more stories, I think a lot of my focus on this particular show was like, you know, we're losing the studio at the end of the year. So I'm trying to find an online system that allows us to do this from anywhere, right? Like, why do I have to have a studio other than I just Zach, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. They so one of two things either they I got them a Bluetooth speaker. So in the IDF, they're either listening to music right now in the Bluetooth speaker, which I think is like an 80% chance that they're listening to music. But there's a 20% chance that they're listening to me right now. And I don't have my phone nearby. And I'm just waiting for them to ping me and make fun of me. Anyhow, um, yeah, so on this particular show is a lot of work behind the scenes to make Evie mux kind of do what we want, so that we can get out of the studio like little subtle detail changes to the interface that we can like make the shows look nicer. I'm trying to get the intro sequence so that like it's easier to get into the show, things like that. And like, we're still struggling. I'll be blunt, we're still struggling. Edie mux is not the same as having a full control room with $100,000 worth of gear producing a show, right? Like, that's like real time changes. You can do anything you want. It's a little bit easier. But I think I do think we'll get there with this particular one. So I know it's a struggle in figuring out audio and like all the other fun jazz and like pissing off Ryan because I'm making him frame up nicely. Just he just stares blankly at the camera. He's shooting lasers at me right now through the camera lens. They're missing me, but he's shooting them at me. All right. I do think that's our show this week. I have no idea what we're going to talk about in post show. Does anyone have the members only streamed? Does anyone have any ideas what we want to chat about? I was gonna say man, it's got a good man. He's got a good one to start out right there, which is that start your extreme to new worlds doing really nice so far off. Alright, so we're going to talk about strange new worlds. By the way, in order to be in order to be able to watch the member stream, you do need to be a member of tomorrow and there may be many different memberships levels in which you can do that and duttle throw those up on the screen so you can take a peek what those different are and then you also get your name in the show. There we go. Hi, Jamie. Hey, Jamie. Hi. There's no audio for you there because Evie Mux is amazing. Well, so did we miss it in the we had a moment of silence for our members. Yeah. So when the when the pictures when the when the fancy pictures went up, we could we could hear you. They couldn't hear you and you couldn't hear us. Yeah, that's an interesting one. I see. Okay. Changed visibility which makes them not audible as well. Yeah, I was hoping that changing. Okay, you know, we'll talk about this in the member show. All the people who are up on the screen are members and they're awesome and thank you and we will get this work. I will we will get this working. I swear to you, we will get this working. We are close. We're hacking away at it. We're getting close. Also, I think the fact that we keep failing at the exact same thing over and over and over again is kind of funny. It was like, it was like, oh, that sucks at first and it was like, it happened again. It was like, oh, that's kind of sad. You shouldn't have let it happen again. And now at this point, it's almost like a comedy sketch. I'm like, I feel like when you go to the when we go to the slates, this is going to fail. So we learned that layer visibility impacts audio. I hate that they tie. We'll talk about this in the member stream. Thank you everyone so much for watching. Members will see you in a couple minutes. Watch the YouTube for that.