 Let's seal the breakfast and plus Xavier Africa and thanks for staying with us this beautiful Friday morning. Gideh Johnson is on standby. He will be sharing his thoughts on the papers. It feels like there's a lot of congratulation and jibberlation like some of the papers would say. Gideh, it's good to have you join us. Good morning medicine. All right. Good morning to you. Good morning to you Mr Johnson. Maybe we should say congratulations because you're your lecture as well. People we have going around as the decision of us. Congratulations in order. Well it is in order at least that our children going back to school do not be roaming the street and it's very clear that we cannot have 100% of the students that were in school then going back to school who have lost some to one thing or the other. Some might have even lost interest in going to school again so well but it's better at least than believed so it's better for us to have the school reason than for it to perpetually close. So congratulations to you and I, particularly congratulations to the student whose life has been concreted by the insensitivity of government and to listening to the plight of ASU of the student that represented by ASU because overall what ASU is asking for invariably we affect and influence the welfare and the training and the discipline of students in various tertiary institutions. All right then let's start off with a punch newspaper. The punch says Namdi Kano jubilation in southeast federal government may appeal judgment and I don't know if the jubilation is just in a certain region or a lot of Nigerians are happy but that's how the punch captions it. Codd says IPOP leaders abduction on lawful slams executive for recklessness and it took a lot of time for you know the realization. Ohanese Sore south east elder statesmen Kano's followers hail judgment. We will present judgment copy to DSS for Kano to go home says or ozakome that's it. On the punch the board caption and the riders underneath it. Away from that World Bank IMF to access Niger's debt sustainability PDP was aggrieved party members BOT delays reports and strike parents students hopeful as ASU leaders meet but I'm sure that you know when the punch actually was set and done for this paper to be put out ASU was actually having that meeting. It was like you can say when wild men slept ASU and the federal government were having a meeting. So who gets federal government's approval for five for for 2.5 billion but Agri C port. So who gets federal government's approval for 2.5 billion dollars but Agri C port and just before we move away 126 stranded Nigerians return from Libya Legos probes nurses for filming ex big brother Niger stars last moment and it was part of our conversation on a top trending this morning. Osinachi I thought her abusive husband would change that's what the neighbor is saying I thought her abusive husband would change but what what does all of this mean now that she's gone that's the much that we can take on the punch newspaper. All right let's go quickly to the nation the big one taking the most of the space on the front page on what technical core others can't tackle bandit recess arrow five he's been speaking a lot recently he says it's simplistic way of fighting bandits or Tom people have final say on kitting outfits with AK-47 let's see how he goes on that more from the nation ASU in all night meeting over strike well I'm sure we know the outcome of that meeting and hint was given already during the last meeting between the ASU leadership and the House of Representatives speaker. The ASU president said he's seen a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm keep asking what kind of light did he see anyway it didn't show him South South Commission Zokoa Diri to pacify weekend will it work Sao Lu signs MOU with Del York film city on film city rather a court acquits ex governor to Raki of 8.3 billion Nara fraud congratulations to him NPC backs local tech firms to par 2023 census 2023 it's reward time for Tinibu say quara governor senator appeal court ends Namdi Kano's trial orders IPOB's release or uneasy it's best news of the year he has not been acquitted says Malami of course the attorney general and minutes of justice saying that it was he was only discharged but not acquitted and saying that the federal government will explore every legal avenue to ensure that other pre rendition matters it calls it pre rendition matters are taking care of so it's probably it's not the end of this case LP's presidential campaign begins October 18 in Nasalwa and Baku remains APC members are stories on the front page of the nation well let's move away from the nation we have the leadership out as out of school children's coach worsens Nigeria ricks losing out on literate and skilled workforce so you have a representation more like a graph right there if I'm not mistaken 6 to 11 we're talking about the ages now the age range for out of school children in Nigeria so between 6 and 11 Nigeria Indian Pakistan countries with the highest figure out of school children again you have 35% as estimated you know number of Nigerian children who attended primary schools do not attend secondary school 10% almost 10% of Nigerians 216 million population are headed for lifetime literacy and 60% almost 60% of girls in this court not in state out of school children especially now that you know we just recently celebrated the girl child 85% of jobs that will exist in 2030 have not yet been founded wow it's a lot I'm thinking that this is a lot of information that we need to you know pay attention to whether or not you can say this is true but we should be working towards this direction we can increase this political age to 50 000 insist on sadden PDP chairman just how many months before the elections critics cannot forge governor Yahya's giant strides in Gumbay that's what an aid is quoted to say a pure court acquits and discharges Kano of you know terrorism offence 2023 censors nmpc or npc inspects factory for local content that's the much we can take this morning and nigeria has not asked for debt restructuring according to the world bank all right moving on from the leadership on friday we will take the last paper we have the guardian with some interesting headlines to touch on a few of them ipo b must sob jubilee this court cautious charges against Kano's lead story on the front page of the gallery and the following writers Kano discharged daughter quitted fg to explore other options court court fg subduction rendition of Kano um breached our local international laws Kano's freedom a passive step towards biafra restoration must sob uh that's the movement for the actualization of the sovereign sovereign state of biafra uh ohanez and digbo fg should not appeal Kano's victory it's time for dialogue as what they're saying i think uh ohanez they didn't waste time to send out its press statement last night fresh concerns on state of basic education is out of school figure reaches 20 millions very important story and they call it the big story they have details on pages four and five of today's edition of the guardian with a number of pictures that are really uh tell a story tell a story doubts as nigeria negotiates debt relief with world bank imf uh chimamanda did not accept international honor confirms a team confirms she was conspicuously absent and i think basically we we asked the question or two about this yesterday we went to our guest somo lu del york sign mo u to build ligas media media a film city confucian at aero contractors is amcon backpedals and ng eagles plan amcon backpedals and ng eagles plan we case a donation stairs controversy in cross river state look at that as we go on it's of interest to me um and these are some stories on the front page of the front of the guardian um over to you jane johnson what are your thoughts on the the development with namdi canu as far as the federal government is saying the case is not yet over and uh abu waka malami at nigeria's attorney general um specifically said that they issues that uh up for judicial judicial determination issues that predate his rendition he called it pre rendition issues that uh uh the courts need to determine so it seems this is not not yet a hole for um carol well we should issue if it's if it's in other time it will have resigned and perished and um the courts deal with process and procedure and if the later process and procedure are not followed um you lose the case on technical grounds and if you see um the judgment yesterday by the epic which was unanimous it's about um the federal government not following the damn procedure not having respect for human right not following international treaty that nigeria is part of parcel of you can see the court condemning executive um recklessness abuse of power and privileges and accusing government of engaging in in non-state actions of abduction and kidnapping if you look at that no matter what case you bring before the judiciary if you don't follow the normal process and procedure you lose the case you you you you you you you lose the case on technical on technical ground i think um like others have advised i think that which you look for a non-judicial settlement to this matter that's that's the way which both parties can be able to to to save to save their face if you continue with this with this trend if it goes to the supreme court the supreme court is going to throw it out as because you have an unanimous decision at least you see the supreme court is agreeing is agreeing with the appeal court in in cases where you have unanimous decision so as far as as far as i am concerned like pointed out he has been discharged he has not been admitted because there are still legal options that the federal government will still explore to prosecute to prosecute their their case but cases are won on the basis of evidence cases are won on the basis of process and procedure and if you look at what the courts in terms of criminal police judgment don't just sledge armor that the court was using to to to to hammer the federal the federal government interesting interesting but but i fall up to that yes i fall up to that um if kindle manages to make his way out of uh detention um it's been referendum now as far as he's concerned um should he continue saying referendum now so should he and his group uh change it to election now looking at what is around the corner and i think i think what i think any idea and that we actually want to progress of we call for us to go back to to pre pre-1966 era to go back to regional government whereby the bulk of the power are with regional government and the central it's whatever the region contribute to the federal that the federal use not the situation whereby you take the resources from the region and then you take the resources to the future and further will not be distributing the resources in piece mean to do until we do that in the simple word for that is what people have called restructuring until we do that no matter who you are late as the president of nigeria the president cannot solve the problem of nigeria because we have a foundational problem with the structure of our governance with the structure of public administration in nigeria the structure is there now let me take it to use another story in the newspaper you see the lego state government to go to economy you see lego state government is seeking the approval of federal government to construct a seaport in badagry federal government is in a budget what right does federal government have over per badagry and maxing is badagry local government under federal government over the government under lego state government and i'm telling you until we practice true federalism and we allow each of the region to go back to pre-1966 structure i can assure you whoever becomes the president they will insult him like the insultant duary like the insultant tunata like the insultant of asadov the only person between our time to insult was was yadda even yadda his wife was insulted was divided over time so the as long as you see for you zikziklase for you to do the same thing the same way the same manner and expect to get a different reason is the beginning of insanity now we are close to 24 years of democracy are we making progress just so jina just a question before we move away from this particular issue let's look at all the parts of it because some people say it's important that we pay attention to antecedents now in 2019 we remember that namdi khanu surfaced miraculously that's what some people have described it and when he he you know he arrived it wasn't too long before he also was asking for a boycott of the elections that 2019 election asking for referendum and you know that at the point where he was asking for this election was a struggle for the opposition now the question a lot of people are asking is why now the timing if this is what you know the cut of appeal have decided to do why now same five months to the elections are we seeing a reputation just like kofi is asked is there going to be a call for referendum and we understand what that would mean you know the fear of not having people come out to cast their votes the fact that you have a certain region wanting to opt out so is this politically motivated motivated or it's just you know the cut of appeals decision do we have the chief will for the national assembly the senate is on the south east do we have senators on the south east do we have as a red member from the south east we have been referred to executive cabinet in the south east what is the political trust and direction of the south east as represented by the elected appointed representative these are the easiest if you look at there are ways and means to you could go about your annotation they could they could come all the south east senators and as a rep who come together and propose it be come up with a resolution or what have you have they learned that you see calling someone can see enemy and call for referendum if you don't have the the except you are except you are putting except you want to use the putting approach that is using that is using in russia and that will not work that that will not work in this in this in this in this contest as far as i am concerned there are still means and instruments through which we could act for restructuring of night that when you talk about the referendum or want to partner with or whether we should move from federalism to confederation to become a confederation okay you know what each of the region would be independent but for security international trade and what have you come together to form a confederation like like scissor land no problem both you have divergent and discordant troops coming from the east none of the candidates representing one interest group the elected representative are representing one interest group peter b two is representing an interest group would peter be support referendum now will he support the cancellation of the election i mean it's just very interesting to i mean look at it's something that has happened before so there's a lot of worry and concern whether there will be a reputation and what would they make you know for the electoral process or the electioneering uh in 2023 especially for a certain region and for those who they might just be supporting but um do you know we need to message journalism is each period in memory the future is clearly the present i cannot show you whose 2023 election the agitation for safety determination will be high i cannot show you that will be high all you just need to do is just to look at the the the the political atmosphere the social atmosphere and what everybody every region as they have invested their hope on this electoral process this electoral process that has not changed the fortunes of Nigeria will not change the fortunes of Nigeria 2023 the structure is 40 if the foundation is not solid there's nothing you can build on it as long as you continue to build on the 40 foundation the building will collapse and that's why we have seen the collapse of public administration nightmare i'll take you to another story you will see that the failure i caught in Tutsi in jigawa destroyed and acquitted samino turaki the traveling governor no a case that the start is 2007 the court ruled yes the anti-target man acquitted of 8.3 billion okay before we run out of time jenny johnson the economy is um is of importance to nigerians and uh we're looking forward to seeing what will happen uh with the 2023 budget where the money will come from um the guardian has his story doubts as nigeria negotiates uh debt relief with the world bank and imf um i've been monitoring events in in the ghanian economy with discussions um and the ghanian government going for this imf and world bank uh bailout and all that and it's been a hot topic like people are talking about it and both for and against um it seems like the federal government of nigeria is going to saunter into some sort of deal with these institutions without nigerians even knowing anything what are your thoughts on what's going on because um the finance ministers is closed um that uh the federal government exploring the debt restructuring options as well as uh securitizing the 22 trillion central bank of nigeria overdraft you know and they are at the world bank imf and general meetings as we speak well kofi um at the beginning of this democratic experience we were able to secure debt forgiveness secure debt forgiveness we even have resources in our foreign reserve and when this administration came into power we have been caught debt that we have nothing to shoot for it and if you ask them question they will show you that they have done infrastructure and you actually add infrastructure that they borrowed this money to to to build it's left for nigeria whether for them to reinforce video or to reward video because i i can assure you i i i can't see anything where with what we have done with the debt you have been caught when in actual sense when a person was living when you are where was living when you not can't was living we had money in a foreign reserve the foreign reserve had been depleted that we have now become indebted to imf and wopaki game probably an economist will explain it will explain it but in in my simple apc micro economics i do i can't i can't i can't understand how we found ourselves we did this weight of eight years with this remote cost debt and with nothing to show for it maybe it's because maybe because people have people have been asking questions i mean we we've had several budgets and we look at the amounts of money is being being put on on in the document you look at the one even for this current budget look at how much is being you know set aside for presidential travels for the presidential fleet how much has been set aside you know to to maintain asu rock for instance and then the national assembly is just going to pass it and people are just going to keep quiet and we'll we'll sometime to deal with the world bank and imf and then maybe we have another sap to add to what we're having as the economic world we got two years ago the budget of two years ago where the national assembly voted huge amount of money i don't know whether it's six billion or or what have you to renovate the national assembly to renovate the house that did not he built it that was commissioned i think the second one was commissioned when i mean david mark was was was the senate was the senate was the building is not up to 20 years they renovated it for nature only that is the reason why let each region keep its resources and let them contribute to federal government there will be less wastages well so the question is how can it be although we know the answer already who's willing to take the action for us to restructure the economy as it is jidya johnson this is a quick one because i mean that the agenda the media should be set concerning 2023 these are the agenda we should set these are the you see if we continue no matter how long you travel on the wrong direction in the wrong direction rather you will not get your destination no matter how long moving sometimes moving forward is going backward if you are going the wrong direction and you are going forward you think you are going you are going backward because you don't get your destination so moving forward from you will be to turn and go backward that's and the the reality of it is that if you want to look at when Nigeria had meaningful growth when Nigeria had strength both internationally and locally when the economy was better developed when the easy corruption was dealt with decisively it was when we had regional government and until we restructure you take all the resources when our government would take 57 percent of of your resources one one one unit one power center and then 30 33 percent will be for 776 local power centers 36 power centers at the state it's not it's so so we need to move away now but i i understand what you mean when you say we need to change the focus of our conversation but you also understand that it wouldn't be on us to actually have a constitutional review to say okay we need to get back you know to original kind of government or maybe ensure that resources or there's decentralization and resource control becomes you know the way forward but let's quickly look at this i'd like to share your pulse on this one it's on the leadership it's like saying the leadership is saying nigeria ricks losing out on literate and skillful or skilled workforce that's what it is the future the leaders of tomorrow don't have a feature today and that's because nigeria is topping the chart with india pakistan of out-of-school children and then you have about 60 percent of girls who constitute especially in core not state states who are not in school the statistics i'm sure you heard it when i went through it but what are your thoughts on this one does this scare you well um we call us to restructure about equipping our children for the future it is not everyone that we have formal university education we need to invest in technical education we need to invest in education that will give people technical skills from the when we are giving out the statistics we talked about a lot of them after primary school that will map the end of their education adventure educational adventure what what system are we putting place to ensure that we get we get technical technical labor force from those category of people no if you if you are looking for artisans in nigeria now you know where the artisan comes from they come from republic company they come from to go if you are looking for the best nuclear the tylas water it is the question i asked i don't know it was on it was on your station we did the international teachers did and we were talking about education and i said look a lot of nigerians have traveled outside of nigeria what type of jobs do they do jobs that they will not literally do in nigeria today do you know that to travel to great prision and you are great clear or you are plumber or whatever you make more money you make more money than for you to have a bsc or ms degree so this critical sector this critical support sector that provides technical education we need to make investment in it and the emphasize this this case for certificate certificate at the tertiary level you see there are different levels of education you have primary you have secondary then you have technical and then you have university education so we must look at okay people that are stopping at primary school in what way can we improve their skill we cannot steal them for them to live in meaningful to live in meaningful like we need three four years they have been empowered to make money for themselves i tell you this while we were young and majority of us did this job we worked in works here we worked in the kejab and we kejab industrial state to support ourselves after we finished secondary school and then in the university there's no amount of money your friends will give to you i did quickly a job i did it but if if i tell anyone that is watching if i tell the person that i put on that's the headband on my several times while i was still doing my course in uni that would they believe me so we must restore dignity in people and we must deemphasize this case for certain certificate and certificate and tertiary education empowerment there are technical skills that we need to go now unfortunately time is never on our side and never friend when we're talking about you know interesting issues but the conversation will never end or appreciate your time right here with us is it is a pleasure mercy and kofi it's a pleasure don't worry nijia and gana will come out of it absolutely um i think you've met you've used the word restructuring about a lost count of how many times you mentioned what even in education you use the word restructuring so i mean so gdm is a restructuring jobs and thank you very much for your time well do you have a fantastic all right then we need to move away and and that's because we would have to return for a first major conversation right here i'll be looking at what it means now that as was called the strike i mean we hear that it's conditionally but just before then let's tell you what happened today in history please stay with us