 What did you get charged with when you did you get you never got charged on the day the police shoot your hand and it was weird mate, um, so I got to the top and I expected to go into Sam for you know 24 40 hours and I got to the top of my hands out to get nicks and they put the hands out to shake my hands I shut the head and then um us chatted with him for 30 minutes and they just thought right and it's not much We can do so we're gonna let you go and I walked into Monday rush hour. No one knew and there I was top of still looking up the shard like a fucking climbed it and It was then I went to police interview and these were the criminal charges aggravated trespass public nuisance Trespass and railway reckless engagement Got no charges didn't even have to go to court. So the criminal thing was a tick. However That was the straw which broke the camel's back because the shard lawyers were now fucking let's let's put him inside 100% and they that over the three months they spent over 200,000 pounds building up this massive case, you know to put me inside and At this point. I was like, I'm done. You know the police don't send anything. I've got this cool fuck the cool guy I'm good. I'm good. You know, so I walk into court quite cocky, you know, I'm just yeah I'll walk out. You know, we're good See you kind of smelled it before I went in it was like There was this kind of I saw the lawyers. I saw the book. I saw I knew it before they said it I was like this. Yeah, this is something something going on here I mean, I mean really I think the string was tied before I even got it And I think they the judge had made his decision if they speaking to them Oh, I don't know But yeah, that make an example of you because even though, you know what you're doing is making you feel alive But you can understand all the charges in the trespassing and then all the shitting but But six months man fuck say those people out there doing worse and get a slap on the wrist Yeah, yeah, does that make you feel right? Okay. I'm gonna do it again. Does it make you step back? Though this is a thing put putting in me inside was probably the opposite to deterring me and turn me into a fucking Savage it sort of empowered me. I'll fucking 100% I was in my prison cell writing down all the climbs. I'm gonna do writing plans every single thing just Obsessed, you know working out in the cell I was just I was just fueled if fueled my madness. How did that then for you being caged up like an animal? Did you ever think? Like it's not fucking as if you got a license, but did you ever look at things and say I could probably escape from here Oh, well, I did it to keep my mind active I I planned an escape just just because of there's no fuck all to do So I was just like I started writing out escape plans and like it could I go through g-wing Can I go through? Can I what about exercise? Yeah, I'm looking around just just to keep myself busy People have what a couple of lads escaped from HMP Pattenville Um Three years ago, so it's definitely doable and the way I saw it was it it was doable However, if I were to jump from the wall, I would have 100% broken both angles. So really I could escape But I don't think I will get very far. Yeah. Yeah, do you have a photographic means? No, no, no, no, I I am I'm an obsessive planner. That's my thing. My whole life is is a plan I mean, you know, everything's a calculation, but I don't I don't have that gift, unfortunately But what I do do is I write things down constantly. So in my phone on my phone I'm constantly making notes. I'll make notes after this. I'll make notes tomorrow make Evaluation notes tonight in the morning. I'll make everything Jim notes notes I'm always writing things down so that when I have to look back on something I don't really need a photographic mind. I've got my notes, you know So that's that's my thing. How will you accept he done prison? Initially it was, you know, people as a young offender going into a London prison, a lot of the young offenders Want to know what gang you're from because it's all gang related. So I have my first second day free people I'll get my blue bowl get ready to be ready to go and go serve return round as free fucking I met in myself one holding a prison shank one when when I'm Tow round his head and saying what gang you're repping I'll just say what I've done and they saw a fuck off and they just testing you just seem have a testing was seen If is this guy someone we can really? Yeah, exactly. It's someone we can rob from someone who we can victimize So the first week was Testing the war as I had people testing me the whole time all time going into the land in the exercise yard But after a week I started building up my connections I started making my friends and started working out and it was it was all good from there