 We on boss talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Yo, we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. We be on fire, we be lily. It's a unique hustle, big shit. Big shit, big shit, huh. It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit. Big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, you CEO. No. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing, paying attention. Mr. Maker, what's going on, man? No, no, no, no. Official Mr. Maker. Thank you for correcting that. Man, hold on. You know when they'll walk on. Say, man, what is going on? What is y'all got going, pizzas? Is a kid that want a feature? Oh, he want a feature in there, go around there. Okay. Thank you so much, man. See that when you got good security, you ain't got that bad, you ain't watered down. Yeah, somebody with some money, huh? Already, that's family, though. That's all, this is all good, man. So, man, hey, bread, winter cane, is here all the way from where? Alabama? Yeah, from Huntsville, Alabama, man. Hunts Vegas, man. Man, you one of them guys, man. I enjoy the research on you. I did look you up, man. Looked like you've been working a long time, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, you know? Been in the game for a while, you know what I'm saying? Started out with my boy Ox from Jamaica, OX, R.I.P. OX from the movie Belly. You know what I'm saying? Started out with him, bumped into Big Cat Records when he signed Gucci, man. So actually, I was on the street chain promoting, I wasn't an artist at first, so started out like that and meeting people with Gucci, man, when he first did the Trap House album. So it was behind all that function. And Zaytoven, you know, he my brother, Gucci, man's from Birmingham. We've been getting all that by a whole lot of work, man. Yeah, he just going and going and going. No, he's not, he's not, he's not, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet for the story. Y'all don't know my story. No, we better get that, we better get that. I gotta move, man. You see, the dope thing, you know, a lot of people love the music part of it or whatever, but for me personally, I can't speak for nobody else. I need to know you as a person. That's what I need to know before I even fall in love with any artist as a, you know, as the personality. So I wanna know, you know, what was it like growing up as a young kid? In Alabama. In Alabama. And that's country. Man. And were you the only sibling? I mean, you the only child? I got some brothers, I got two brothers. No sisters. On my mama's side and I got a sister on my daddy's side. But you were raised with your brothers? With my brothers, yeah. On your mama, cause you were raised with your mom. Your daddy wasn't there. Nah, he was around here and there, but you know how it is. Oh, okay. Why does it have to be like, I'm tired of hearing that story. I mean, my daddy, I love my dad. He had to do what he had to do. He in my life now, I mean, shit. You know, some of my kids, I don't get to see maybe it was because my mom, maybe him and her had, you know, a situation where she kept him away from him, but we good now. But as a kid, you didn't understand it cause most children don't understand it. Cause parents don't explain that to kids. Nah, you know, as a kid, it was like, I really didn't want to go around them too much anyway. It was a lot. My dad, you know, he was a gangster. So, you know what I'm saying? My granddad was a gangster. It was a lot going on with that. So, you know, whenever you ready for the story. So did you fall into that category? Because, you know, if it comes down to the line, I know that not everybody can fall into that. Some people choose to be different, but sometimes you fall into that trap. I mean, shit. Look, look what we had today. Look what I'm doing. What you think I'm doing. Half of my legs, for real. I mean, I ain't trying to be violent, but I'm like two-park, I ain't no killer, but don't push me. Oh, really? I think that's almost everybody, though. No matter who that person is. When you think about black people, gangster. Yeah, everybody, cause you gotta, when you growing up, you know, you might have to struggle. I know you had your life soft. You had no, you looked in the fridge ready. You had no food in there. So you're from Jamaica. Oh man, I'm from Jamaica. Rocks from Jamaica. That's what I said. You started off here. So I know you know what's going on. So when you said it, when you said that, I was like, at least you started off good. Oh, what now? You started off right. So how was your trip to Jamaica? When you said you went to Jamaica, you went with him? Went with him, yeah. So you started a real Jamaica there? Yeah, I went over there my first time going. It was like some big gathering concert for Sparga Ben's son. Sparga Ben's son had just got killed then. So I met all the Marley brothers. I met Jill Scott, she was there. It was really dope. I've seen a lot of people out there like about 2,000, 3,000 people. So when he got, because Sparga Ben used to live on Red Square, did he take you down to those areas where he was found? We went everywhere, because I got a smoke. So I had to go everywhere trying to find the loud. They smoke like regular yardweeds. I'm trying to find the hydro. So I went somewhere everywhere. I couldn't tell you every place I went. I knew I was in Kingston, you know? But you're right. I went to a still club in Jamaica too in Kingston. Yeah, I been. They picked the dollar up for you. Yeah, man. Man, it go crazy in there. It go crazy, man. Yeah, it went, she took me. It go crazy. I was like, whoa. I went, I was like, damn. Yeah. It's a little more lively than what I'm normally seeing. Exactly. They went through the roof in that whole, man. Yeah, they going down. They going, whoa, nigga, for a dollar, nigga, it's going down. For a dollar, they doing it the most. They doing the most, man. But I don't like that, though. Me too. Man, so when you think about just the music, man, like I said, you mentioned some names early on, Big Cat, you was down there with Gucci, man, and Big Cat fell out as well. Yeah, you know, that was a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago. They had a little run in where it was, you know? You know, a little money situation or something with them, but I ain't never get into it. So, I mean, they cool today, though. That's what the gutter TV said, because it was a thing where I asked him, I was like, how did you hang around, you know, with Jesus and Gucci? And he was like, I just mind my business. God, it ain't my business. It ain't my business. Yeah, remember him, man. Yeah, he's been around. I used to be with Gucci. I used to be, see, 2-11 was signed with Jesus. So, I used to be over there with both of them. So, it was pretty cool. Minding your business. Jesus respected and Gucci respected. That's real. Now I gotta talk about my boy who I've been, he deal with me a few times and, you know, I ain't with him like you, but the nigga, you know, y'all had a label together or something, or y'all might still have it, you and Zay Tobin, but he'll hit me back, he real proper, like I like this nigga, man, but I can't. When I first started this show, I said, I gotta get you on Boss Talk, because I had a dude named Flex and Fab, and Flex and Fab get free beats from Zay Tobin, just, and I was like, man, you gotta get that boy, till he call him right, your own set nigga, the nigga been cool with the show ever since, but I ain't got him yet, but I gotta get him. For show, yeah, Zay is a real humble guy, man, that's my brother. For show, you know, he gonna come on here and bless the show, man. Yeah, we got Famigia Territory going on. That's another side of the distribution I got. And I just, you know, started with the T.S.F. I'm a big fan, bro, and I seen you at Just Link with Sauce Walker. I was actually, me and him were conversing and dealing with him a little bit. Sauce a real one, man, he made me laugh. I love Sauce, man. Because he's so Texas, man, young Texas too. So I just, I know that Texas feel, man, Sauce feel, he's sharing the wealth, man, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So salute to Sauce, man. Sauce and everything that he doing over there, man. Yes, sir, sir, and all of them. How'd you end up even coming to that, that whole organization and be like, I'm gonna rock with these guys? Right. Well, you know, I knew them from Rockin' with Gates with the BWA, the breadwinner association. Okay, okay. So I knew him under Twins and Myzee. Salute to the 100-game RP, Young Myzee, Myzee, my boy. And, shit, Trouble did a feature with Sauce Wood. Okay. Sauce Wood. That's my boy. You know, he been on Boss Top. I was like, oh, that's my nigga. So when he linked that in, then we ended up like, okay, I'm gonna do a two. I wanna do a feature with him. So we linked it in to where we just linked in, like brothers, he see my leg and was like, man, look, you know, you're a star, nigga, come on, man. What we finna do? So we working and moving and I'm over there with them TSF right now. That's hard, man. And off of TSF, man. That's hard, bro. That's hard because they move like they, it's like a movement. He got a whole movement and everything he been doing been so solid like with the way he repping the whole TSF of Texas and just basically showing the way we move down here in a new way. You know what I mean? You got a lot of different artists in Houston that been on this show Chos and Be King and all them cats, but Sauce is one of them guys. And when I guess Sauce Wood winning was on here and he just basically was telling me how he linked with him and how much respect he had for him. So it's been a dope overall run for Boss Top 101. One year and some in the making. Almost two years. Almost two years, man. January will be two years. Already, man. So you basically meet Gucci in them back in the day. How do you meet him though? How do you? Goof, shit, man. You know, one of my relatives was going with this guy's sister, his name is Wiz. Okay, Wiz was linked in with Zay. And we went over Zay who was in the studio. So he was like, man, you know, I got an artist named Gucci from Alabama. I want you to meet him. So he introduced me to Gucci and he was like, I'm from Besse, Alabama, like from Huntsville. We linked in, but I wasn't rapping at that time. Okay. So we linked in on some, you know, just me, just linking in with him. How old were you at this time? Huh? How old were you? Man, I was probably about 22, 23 something like that. Okay. Okay. And 22, 23 year old cocky as hell, but real humble, but cocky. Yeah, but cocky. Yeah, listen to my, I thought I had my own money. Ain't that do everything? And when I thought rap money was funny, I used to laugh at rappers and shit. So when you was around him, though, during that time, that was before Walker, Neil. But did you even deal with him during the time he was dealing with Walker? Well, when he got with Walker, that's when he had the issue with Cat, I guess. And then, you know, Ms. Deb came in and Ms. Deb really didn't know me like that. I linked in with him a couple of times, but it really was like he was jumping into another phase of his life. So you're not gonna have to let a nigga move on when they're moving on. When they're moving on, yeah, yeah. So yeah, shout out to Gouwa, but we straight, but he had to move on and make his next journey in his life for his career. When you think about you, you also dealt with Kevin Gates. Like, how was that? How did you even know him? Like, oh, yeah, he's from Baton Rouge. That's why I asked you that. Remember I asked you that? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, so how did you even link with Kevin Gates? Well, you know Gates, man, you know, I seen him, I think we was out at Arnick's. He was with Draco. I think he was with Draco and Marzi or something. And, you know, he was just like, man, you look like a rapper. You look like, you know, my brother and shit. He started saying that. So when we linked up, I had got a feature for somebody, one of my artists. The artist was lazy. He was like, man, you need to just cut it and just start rapping yourself. So he was like, boom, we gonna do it like this. Boom. I'm like, what BWA mean? He's like, whoop, whoop. I'm like, I'm about to get it on my neck. I'm gonna push it like the Sioux movement, you know. I pushed that line real hard. So everybody know that. So when I started pushing it, the whole state Alabama had California, you know what I'm saying? I got Tennessee. I got a lot of people that pushed behind me. So once that happened, he like, damn, I ain't man, everybody know you everywhere. I'm like, yeah. So we just started pushing that. We did the video. Gage did the while she talking video for me. Dropped that single. It was on Worldstar. I think it did. I was like 1.6 million views on that thing. So yeah, salute to Gage, man. It's all love over there. But you can tell you was younger too. I was like, yeah, I was a lot younger than you know. I was a lot younger than you know. That's hard though. Like to have that in your history and to have that in your, you know, your arsenal when you look back, that was a hard, that's a hard way to come in the game, man. That's hard, man. When I seen it, it was, I was like, this done deal. I got to talk to this nigga, yeah. And I went and looked at a couple of your interviews and I was like, that's a real one, man. I like to link with him because I can look at the way people are, man. I love my people that without a shadow of a doubt. But just seemed like you was a genuine person just from seeing your moves. So, I mean, and then they told me that nailed it too. Like, cause I'm like, for him to deal with him, it's like, I know the nigga got to be cool, you know what I'm saying? You ain't backing nobody. You know, I was just looking at when I posted my press release of signing partnership with TSF. So I was looking at my Instagram right before I walked in. I see Zae reposted that thing. So salute to Zae for the new territory. You know, we work in this summer and this company is going down. Like, for you and him to grow that bond enough to even say, we gonna do a movement together. That's heavy, bro. So that's a blessing too. People don't really count their blessings for him. Man, this is blessing too. Like I told him, man, you fucking with me with nobody else, excuse me, no question on it. Go ahead, man. Oh yeah, he fucking with me with nobody else. Well, you know, it's a lot of niggas in the industry that's really not from the streets. You know, that's what he said, we in the streets. We taking and going to the community is trying to make it better. That's real. And he rapping about, you know what I'm saying? Changing kids' lives and keeping them away from prison instead of, you know, the rap is rap. You can't change. It's gonna be negative in rap. That's how it was. That's what it meant to be is hip hop. Yeah. But it can be positive in rap too. Yeah, you can be positive. You can have some gospel music. I salute to my boy D from New Orleans. What's his name? D? D got positive music. D. It's hard to find positive music right now. See how you struggle to find it. Yeah, D. I can't think of his name D though. He from New Orleans. You know what I'm talking about? But you struggled. You know, the reason I say you struggled because you used to back, you was excited about coming and what's the chance to rapper and you was excited back when they was doing their thing, you know, and they still hard. Don't get me wrong. But now it's kind of like, where is he at? Where is this conscious rapper at? Where is it? Right now, it's really, it's really gangsta. It's not a thing right now. It's really, it's a drilling and all this craziness is going on with nothing else in between. Not even R&B. You niggas is gone like hell. You know what it's called running too fast, slow down, yeah. But is that good or bad? I mean, I like all kinds of music. So you know, some of the music coming out now is good. Like even like with the Migos, I remember when they first found them, I remember them guys, they was cool, cool guys. Like the Fasachi, Fasachi, Fasachi. See people couldn't get the, you had to grow on it, keep playing on the radio, keep playing in the club. It's all about how much money you got to spend on your record. Advertisement. Man, you so right, man. But the game doesn't change, man. And it didn't change, not only one time. You got to understand when you were pioneering this and you've been watching it from the beginning and you old as hell. And I watched when LA on them and all this stuff, Fat Boys and all of them came on the scene and then watching as a kid and then you see it grow and elevate as a teen in the 90s hit and you got the chronic and different things popping at that time and the new LAO coming through. Then you go into the phase. I'm just looking at all of these different phases. We just not in a new phase. Right, it's a new phase. You see what I'm saying? Even the big cat, even the big cat booting him. Yeah, that was kind of new. That was a different element of it. Right, young Jay-Z was different. Different elements and people, but it's still our people. Yeah. But like Jay-Z, say still never. I want to go back to something because you never did say how did you get into the rap? Like when you were young growing up, is that what you wanted to do? No, I played football in school and stuff. I wanted to make it like to NFL for real. Were you good? Yeah, it was good. Me too. My whole family, my brothers, everybody was good, but I don't know the rap thing came along. Like I said, I met Ox, then I met Goo, after that I met Gates. Gates influenced me really to be picking up the mic and rap it. Yeah, that's what he was saying. Gates influenced me because he said, don't waste your money on someone else when you can spend your money on yourself. And when I started spending money on myself, I started making money off the rap. I bet you everybody that I had signed or even dealt with music, I made more money than they have. So, but even, cause you know a lot of times when people don't do the rap, it's because it felt like they weren't good enough. That felt like they couldn't do it. Well, I don't care. You know, I'm gonna rap anyway. You ain't got an answer to it. I don't care how I sound. You dig, it is what it is. No, you cover what? I think when it's a hundred percent you, you really can't care. Hey, you gotta let it go. It's your story. When you get your first show money, who gonna stop you from getting some money? When you get your first show money, when somebody want to see you, you're like, man, these people, these three, four hundred people just see me? Exactly. How did that feel for you the first time? How did that feel for you the first time? It felt amazing. Amazing, nigga, see that, you know? When you see people actually singing your song, word for word, rapping it. That's hard. That's hard. You'll be like, man, I'ma do this, I'ma do this, you know, you keep doing it. But you know, this industry is some kind of way somebody's gonna do something. They're gonna do something to try to knock you. You mentioned the Migos earlier, man. And the Migos is a situation that just happened where my boy, Takeoff, Y.P., you know? Just, you know, when you see things happen, and I ask this, we've been asking it all day, when you see things happening like this late night, Dolls Pass, and the other boys up in P&B Rock, it's not, I'm just three, but it's been so many, bruh. What do, as a rapper, as an artist, even though a lot of times it ain't for you, like Takeoff, it wasn't for him or whatever, allegedly, how do you, what does it put on your mind, being that you've been in the game long as you have, man? You know what I'm saying? That's right, that was mind blowing, cause, you know, like the Migos, like the black people's Beatles, they're like real, real delicate to the culture. So it's like, that right there, that was a blow, cause we all was together, I've been in Houston, I was, we was together, me walk all the TSF, skip the flippers at the studio, we're about to record and all that shit, so it hit us pretty hard with that one, so that's a blow, that's gonna be a blow, blow, blow for that one, so that's just sad, yeah, R.I.P. And the thing, you know, you really gotta think about is, man, you know, he definitely was the low-key one of the group to me, and he also, I met him in Vegas when you was, we was in, I don't know if you was with me. I wasn't with you guys. Yeah, she was, cause. I wasn't there when you met him. Okay. I might've been there, but I wasn't there. You was there, yeah, but I know we was at the show in The Magic, and they was there, and it was him, and I don't say it wasn't there, they were just him and his nephew or whatever, and it's just crazy how you see these people, matter of fact, that was the time when they got into it with John Kingston, I don't know if you remember that, at The Magic, they got into it. Oh yeah, I remember that, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, you was there, I'm telling you. Yeah, I remember that. They had a little runny over something that was said, I can just remember, I just think back, you know what I'm saying, and we was all there, and we was all walking around talking. Soldier boy was there that year too. Yeah, yeah, all of us was there. We were all just hanging out, and that's where it be. A lot of times when you, you know how it is, when you just hanging out, I made Gucci there. A lot was not there. He never made, he was gambling, every time they go gambling. I know with that nigga, and I met a nigga about four times gambling. He was at the table every time. Nigga's gambling, dog, tell you, you gonna be at that table doing it the right way, the right way nigga, throwing them big red dice, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at any rate, man, just to know these guys and see these guys, and like I said, know them in a way we do get to know them, as artists, and hear the music, and then to see somebody taking away at age 28, that's crazy to me, man. That's crazy to me, man. My son 29, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy. And it's like, damn, you know, like another one going, man. So I don't know, just pray for his family, all that good stuff, man, and pray that people can come to live with it, because that's a part right there. That's a whole different level than what's going on. That's a blow, like I said, for the black culture, you know what I'm saying? That they'll take him out like that, that's crazy. That's crazy. So just what we got coming, you know? I'm gonna ask you about the league and the Wreck. That's coming, cause I gotta know about that. Yeah, the league and the Wreck, you know what I'm saying? Painful. I mean, in fact, I talked about that, cause it seemed like that's something that really, you know, that's life changing. Yeah, man, for real. So you riding and having a good time? Mm-hmm. And actually, I was on a Can-Am, I was on a Can-Am, and this happened August the 3rd of last year. So not actually, yeah, last year. And you still walking on that Can-Am? His leg, no, his leg. Man, my leg came off at the bottom below the knee. Oh, I didn't know that. So they had to put him back on. Yeah, the Can-Am smashed it and took my leg off, so they put it back on, so that's the long healing process. How long did they say it's gonna take? Man, that's something, you know, shit, that's gonna God hands and God's hands, God has to just heal. I think it's healing. I go back when I leave, I'm gonna go back to the doctor and get X-rays to see what's going on. You still doing therapy? Yeah. Physical therapy? Man, it's tough trying to recover and recoup. And the hardest thing is not moving quickly and learning how to move again. Right. I'm just learning how to walk again. That's hard, man. That's hard. How did it affect you mentally, though? You know what, man? It was messing with me hard at first, but when I got out the hospital, smoked me a blind eye and I'd be straight. For real? Yeah, no, that's hard, because you gotta understand, man. You gotta smoke. You gotta smoke? They take them pain pills all the time. Look at him, he's agreeing with that. He's taking things out. Smoking. Them pain pills had me waking up going crazy. Yeah, yeah. They had me tripping out, though. They had me tripping out too much, so I had to laugh them and then just smoke a little bit. Yeah, I'm glad. My friend said the same thing about his pain pills. The one that, remember, he just had knee surgery? Oh, yeah, he didn't tell you, he said I did. Yeah, he said them pain pills really had him tripping. The doctors had to take him off of him. And he's saying, like you, he had to smoke something to get himself straight. Yeah, man, because you know them pills, they be sneaking up on you in the wrong way. No, that's real. So, let's get back to Alabama, man. Mobile Alabama. Honeycomb Brazy. Honeycomb, free Honeycomb, man. It's my brother, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's down there. I'm asking questions. I'm down, I done jumped back off in there. Honeycomb, good, good, good people, man. There's another nigga down there, too. A Wave-O, Big Wave-O, it's a bunch of y'all. A Wave-O in Birmingham. Yeah, A Wave-O, that's him. Yeah, A Wave-O. Big Walk Dog, man. Big Walk Dog, he's from Mississippi. Yeah, yeah, but he's close by. You all niggas over there together. Yeah, he's close. Yeah, but I want to ask you about, I really want to ask you about, like, dealing with seeing things like niggas getting locked to a Honeycomb Brazy on the top, he's riding around, doing his thing. They be targeting us or what, man, or do you think it's just, we out there in the smoke? Man, we always been a target. Come on, man, you a black man, you know you always been a target. Damn, I agree with you. You ain't got a deal, nothing wrong, never in your life, but you might have, but before you know you already a target, our kids, my son, they a target before they even reached the age to even commit a crime. Man, that's real. So do you feel like, is that somebody, when he come home, you could work with him? Oh yeah, we got a song you ain't seen in the video on the song. It's called Smoke on the Z-toe and B. Man. Who said song? What? I gotta get on that. We all gotta get on that. Red Raw. That's crazy. Oh, wow. Yeah, man, Free Honeycomb. How long had he been doing music? When I first seen him, he was at the projects and it was a long song by his uncles and all his cousins and everything, that whole hoard. I was like, my partner put me on it, I was like, nigga, going in, nigga. Yeah, Honeycomb, he be going in. I think Honeycomb been rapping for a couple of years, though. I just bumped into him a couple years ago when we did that song. Oh, and that's how you end up running into him? I hit him up and shit. Alabama, I'm thanking the niggas from Alabama. You know what I mean? I done interviewed a lot of bad news. A little soul. Bad news is when a soldier, he do Southern Blues, though. But he rapped. He was Sir Charles Jones. He been with Boosie and him, too. But I gotta ask you about you and Boosie's song because I seen that. Yeah, I got a song with Boosie. Yeah, and how that happened because that's how he made me think about Boosie because he started off. But he from Alabama. I'm gonna look him up. Bad news. Bad news for sure. Yeah, I've been doing Boosie for a while before I started rapping and shit. So he been coming to Huntsville doing shows. So I've been doing Boosie and he signed one of my relatives named D. Rogers. So we linked in like that and I got to track in the video from Boosie called Shooters. Yeah, and how was it making that? What was the process like? Man, Joe Spike shot it. I mean, it cost me a lot of money. Yeah, of course, of course. The process was money. I ain't gonna front process money. But it was really actually good. Boosie had just, you know, had his incident with his leg. So my leg wasn't hurt then. That wasn't long ago. Right, he was leaning on me then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My leg fucked up, but yeah, it was great. It was a great experience. He, Boosie, a real one. Wow, there's a whole, there's a whole bad. So did y'all just, y'all went in the studio together? Y'all kind of just sent verses? I don't think we was in the studio together on that one. I can't remember. Okay. I don't know. Yeah, that's hard because at the end of the day y'all did get the video done. Yeah, we got the video. And how was that? Just making a video. Dope, dope. Like I said, he came out in his electric wheelchair, you know what I'm saying? He stood up, leaned on me. You know what I'm saying? Everything was 100. Wow. Still getting money. Still getting this bread. Still getting this bread, yeah. That's the one thing you gotta realize, man, that sometime when you get in this game, man, and you know already you're pushing and the money coming in and the flossing coming in, it's gonna bring haters, man. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Nigga, man, you got the girl and he didn't. And niggas in the hood, you done beat niggas out of the hood. They like, why that nigga win? How come God let him win and I didn't win? Police officers, nigga, they making what you making, why he making it? I'm being real, I'm being real. You know, you got a lot of haters. You know what it is. We come from the slums, man. We come from nothing. We used to everything. Hate it any kind of way you want to, man. We'll take a little something and make a lot, too. You're right. And I think that's the part, I think a lot of niggas be underestimating us on. That's why you can't never underestimate another cat because you never know what that nigga's gonna do. One rhyme away, nigga, one situation. One rhyme away, we finna be through the room. So where do you wanna see yourself in the next, or should I say next 2023? Where do you see yourself? What do you wanna accomplish? 2023, I'm about to drop these new visuals. It's gonna be TSF business. Give me some youths, some younger guys, two coming up with their mind, right? Put them on with some gang with the rap game. I got businesses I'm working on on myself. I got K and KU's auto sales. I got Level Up South clothing store. Where are they located? That's in Alabama. Okay. Cause you say you moving though, right? I ain't man, moving. You gotta keep everything grooving though. It's hard to run a business. You gotta try to keep that check up. It's hard to run a business far away. I'm probably gonna, I don't know. I'm thinking about the clothing, so I'm gonna keep the car light. I like the car light. Yeah, cause you have reliable people. That's good, cause you look like a business man. Like you wouldn't just deal with just one thing. You're gonna deal with a lot of different things. Right, right. I got that going. So I'm thinking about doing something in Houston. I don't know yet though. Kids? You have children? Yeah, I got kids. How many? I got four. Wow, you done? Yeah. He's like, yeah. You don't sound like you're so sure. I'm done. I'm done with kids. How old are they? 12, 14, 10 and four. What's the main thing you've learned about being a father? You know what, man? What I've been looking at myself coming up and my kids is doing what I'm doing, the reaction of my kids. Really? Yeah. Saying what I'm saying and doing what I'm doing. So I gotta kinda watch what I say. Watch what you say. Watch what I'm doing. And nowadays you can't even hide it. You know how like he say, okay, I can't do this at home because they're watching? Right. Because of what you're doing, because of these phones that they have and kids are very smart. They're on YouTube, they're on social media. Oh man. Anything you do out there, they're gonna see. And even if they don't see it, the kids at their school is gonna see it and say it to them like, man, I saw your daddy on the phone. Yeah, yeah. So you know, my son, the one I did with Gates, my kids brought that to me. And I was like, man, who shows y'all this man? Where y'all get this at? You know, cause I'm like, man, who showed them that? And that song, you know, it's really explicit. So yeah, my kids, they help. They don't game. Do you explain it to them? Yeah, I told them it was just entertainment. I tried explaining it to them. I want to be a rapper, dad. You got to get one of my Changs there. One of my Gucci belt, I want to pass it, man. You 10 years old, but you ain't getting it. You got young kids rapping. You know, 10 years old getting Gucci belts and me buying Gucci shoes. No, I ain't doing that one. I ain't finna spend it like that. So once they come to you and be like, I got a song and I want to rap. No, I let them get in there and play around with the booth and rapping and stuff like that. I ain't got that, but I'm not buying no kids Gucci and all that type of stuff, you know. Because early out, they know that there's an image that comes with rapping. And that's what a lot of these kids, when they watch rappers on social media, they're not only watching them and listening to them because, oh, I want to be like them. I got to go through, because I've heard people say, well, I got to do this and this and this because so I can get something to rap about. You know what I mean? So a lot of times they're doing wrong because they want to be. It's like the end story means, but they don't want to lie on their raps. They want to go and do all of this stuff so they can be a rapper. But is that a right concept to be giving these kids for them to be like, okay, in order for me to be a rapper? Because right now it's drill music that is in right now. I got to do this and do this and do this to be that person. Man, you know what? That's a hard question. Because you know everybody hungry. So you can't really knock nobody for trying to get them some money. Long as they really ain't harming nobody, it's television been doing that for years. American then did that to us for years to the kids and everybody else. So it's television starts there. But yeah, I don't know nobody for they hustle. But the difference is, because I was telling somebody that earlier and I said television, that's entertainment. We can always say to our kids, well, that's fabricated. That's not real. But in the rap industry, even if some of these rappers are fake, not all of them, but some of them do perpetrate. But they say that it is real. So you're telling your kids that everything that I'm rapping is real compared to entertainment, which is movies and stuff like that. You tell your kids, oh, that's not real. They made that up. This, this, this, this, you know? So there is a difference. It's a difference. I agree. I had to break it down to my kids like that. Like, you know, and they be wanting to go to my videos at the time. They too young to go to my videos. I got bikini girls, you see them in videos, do it, watch you talking. So I'm explaining to them, it's just a little too young. But you do, I do explain to my kids and my, my daughters and I like, look, you're supposed to like boys. You're supposed to like girls. So that's my main thing. I go with that. They gonna, they gonna have to get in it cause it is what it is. I don't agree with y'all a little bit cause y'all are ignoring me with, your tape member was right at first. You're sucked because you talking about the TV show with a kid, we used to call him the house cause that's why my uncle hit all the Playboy magazine. No, let me real, man. It was just a different way we were doing it. So it ain't, it ain't nothing really like, it's really the same to me. It's the same. Now they project and wrestling, they were acting like they were breaking niggas' necks. They were jumping off the top rope with these niggas. But some people, you know what I'm saying? But they were telling you it was real. Right. On the wrestling. Now what they telling you it was real. Yeah. Think about it. They didn't want you to know it was fake. You had to figure that out. Yeah, you had to figure that out. And they still want to admit it to this day. So I can't, I can't agree. I think that we just quit being a cream book. I'm talking about movies. When it comes down to, we gotta be good parents and parent our kids and teach them the right way. Teach them the right way. And the other part of that is a niggas and teachers kid's right. Right. You gotta have a mama and a father. Let's take two. Ooh, that's hard. I just didn't want to have a mama and a father. I know, but you know, I'm just saying it takes two because women out here, they do get jealous of rappers. I hope you, I hope you feel me this shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm like shit, like booze to say baby mama. Come on now. It's hard on you. They think you, like this interview, this interview can give me all kinds of chaos. They can get some child support, go up or whatever, however it go, but you know, women, they got their own way of taking action when they think they need to take action. That's not the truth, man. I've been married off for 20 years. I know damn well you telling the truth. Look at your profit. I'm like you gotta take you with a poor bitch, nigga. No, but the words that topic is concerned. I don't like women who take advantage of certain things just because of the kids. I don't like women using kids as pawns. I believe that men need to be fair, you know what I mean? As long as the man is being fair, because I've seen some women who, the men don't wanna include child support on and they paying for the kids. They giving them the type of money, but they still wanna take these men to child support offices and stuff like that. That's not fair. If he doing what he needs to do, taking care of home and all of that sort of stuff, although he's not with you, he's still taking care of them kids and sometimes he even taking care of the child. That's not even his. And you still wanna do all of that. Yeah, but that's bull crap too. Cause you get on this show and you say this all the time and I haven't heard you say it, but women always making a movement to do something. Why is the woman ain't making a movement to stop these women from lying on these men a lot of times and forcing them into child support situations when they, you know what I'm saying? When they basically don't agree with it. Oh man, I gotta do it. Hold up, let me tell you this story. You all got different teachers, these little bit of story, I'm gonna miss it, man. All right, man. Before this, before I broke my leg right and everything, I got a kid. Okay. Youngest. She said, I wanna put you on child support. I said, yeah, okay. All right, who do you want? You want 10 G's, you want 15 G's? Yeah. I want 25. I said, listen, okay, boom. We gonna go to court, all right. We go to court, I get on child support. How about a couple months later, I've been paying child support or whatever. Forgot how much it is. She gonna tell me, you ain't paying them that little money. That's what you wanted. I thought you wanted me on child support. You see me mad at me, cause I'm on child support. I don't get it. But that's women though. Can you give me some explanation for that, ma'am? As I said, some women give all the women a bad rap. She gonna be on the other side. I don't know how to make the group where they can go against each other. I don't think up for a woman to do it. They ain't gonna do it. You know what I'm saying? Man, that's crazy. You don't think up for it, but they don't make no groups to say, stop doing what you're doing either. I didn't get that at all. That was crazy. Listen, niggas pull niggas up on stuff all the time. But a woman act like she can't pull another woman up on nothing. Yeah, if we put groups together to help our young men, where's the women that putting groups together to say stop doing these men like that? Exactly. How y'all don't want to hear it. I mean, it has to be a profit to me. Why, you show us here. Maybe you need a trust together. Come here, when you say child support. She put me on child support. And then I'm like, okay, what is it? What is it? You got the money, don't you? Then that ain't enough. I said, I said, all right then. It ain't gonna never be able to, you're not gonna satisfy nobody. I said some people, because I was even reading something where 50 cents and his ex, she, he was going to her and saying, cause he wanted her, every man, not every man, that's a lie. But if you're doing well, you want the people around you to do well as well. So yes, his child was grown and whatever, but he went to her, so okay, so you just start a business, what you want to do with your life. And she was like, why? I'm good, because he's taking care of her. So she didn't want to do nothing. She's like, you made it, so it's like, you made it, so why I got to do that? Yeah, why I got to work. Yeah, they called, he made it, I mean, she made it. No, she got to work. I mean, at that point, he knew exactly where her mind was, so he stopped dealing with her. But at the same time, not every woman is like that. All right. Well, not every woman is like that, but again, I got to say, every woman is not like that, where y'all at on stepping up, saying that the other woman is doing wrong. Step up. So you can change it, so you can help change the situation. Yeah, he'll change it. You need a group put together to say, stop doing different things and pull them up. You can't wait on the search to do it. You can start with me, I am a victim. And I'm a victim of it. I'm a victim of it. I was a victim. So if you want to come together and try to go against the situation, we'll put you in the middle of it. I don't know, I don't know. You've been a victim. My child's to put my girl in the middle of it. They ain't going to do it now. You're going to do it too. You're going to get a lot of men and they're going to be supportive. Okay, how about this? This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to start up my segment, a podcast. That's all we're going to talk about on the podcast. Okay, I'm going to have a boy. Make sure you hit me up once you get it going. Get some people on there. And then make sure you bring other women that has been doing these things. Let's put them on the side. I'm going to put mine on blast. I'm going to send it to them and deal with it. Everybody's going to put it on blast now. Because this is what need to happen. And if there's no action behind what people are saying and these people are continuing to do it, whether women or men, you do have men out there that don't take care of their kids. I just don't happen to be one. I mean, neither does my God, breadwinner. You know what I'm saying? No, not with the money. Yeah, so Cain, we doing what we supposed to do. Now, we've done what you was with me. We done what we supposed to do. What about that? Well, let me ask you a question. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Because what a lot of women will say, yes, you're giving money, but are you spending time? I just had to ask that question. With this one, I got my other kids there in Alabama. This kid, he's in Florida. Like I said, she did that with the child support. I ain't seen the kid, you know, my leg been broke. I ain't seen him. I can't spend time with you, but I don't know where you're at. Yeah, that's another thing. So it's not your fault. Okay, that's, no, that's good, because. I'm the victim, he's a victim. I'm the victim. That's what you make sure. That's the way it's going to go. Can I ask that question? Here's the question. Because you have some men out there who will just pay the money and don't want to deal with a child. Some men are like that. So that's why I'm waiting for you to go. I really want to deal with my son, you know what I'm saying? He, you know, we talk on FaceTime here and there when she let him. Yeah. Like, so it ain't no issue. I know she, you know, probably feeling some kind of way about some shit, I don't know. She still want to be with you. You think that's what it is? I don't know. I don't know. Don't go back. Don't want you to go back? The Bible say no man grab a hold of the plow and look back without running into something. Listen, don't go back. Yo, don't look back. I got too much to do. I'm on my, I'm on my music right now. So I got to get to this money. Don't get, no, don't let them knock you off your focus, bro. Stay focused. Yeah, they ain't gonna do it. They can't be in the DM. Again. It's my first interview in a year and a half. And it's the hardest interview ever. Ever. Yeah. Boss talk. No, boss talk 101, what a boss is talk, man. Yeah, man. You know, I just, I appreciate you for coming, bro. Like I said, when my girl Eli hit me up, I was like, man, you know, gotta be live. Because you say, I say, ain't that nigga from Baton Rouge or something? Yeah, everybody think I'm from Baton Rouge. I said, what that nigga from? She said, I said he over there. I said, Brandon, nigga to me. You know what I'm talking about? And she said, well, he can't come. I was hurt yesterday. He was called. I was like, ah, some came up with saucy. You know, when that happened and everything, the situation, RIP takeoff, man. We had to take a day or two of break off there. So that's what threw it off. Threw it off. Yeah, for sure. I just know that with you and me being one of those guys who love a story, cause she did give me a little bit about you. And then me going and look, I said, man, that's who I'm looking for. That's what Gutter TV say. He say, man, he say, this Gutter, man. He say, that's why I like boss talk cause it was real talk, you know what I'm saying? And it don't be no stage this. Like when you first came in, you were like, I did this, this, and I'm like, nah, let me put my wife in here cause we for the talk. Cause I want to talk to this dude, man. Yeah, I want to talk. She done broke the chastis for it. I earned me. God damn it, I'm sweating. Remember, she supposed to be the spokesperson for the people going against them while you're doing y'all wrong. Yeah. Hold her to it. I'm holding her to it. I'm holding her to it. Yeah, hold her to it. The wife say she going to do, I'm a backer. We going backer. I'm a victim. Man, me and you. I've been a victim. We a victim. Man, we need some, some, some, yeah. You a victim too. See, you got a member while I'm popping up. This is my phone now. No. Steady. About nothing. Man, so, so, man, you know, being that, being that, you, you know, this guy right here, got something with your favorite rapper, Boosie, man. What would you like to ask my boy bread wanna came, man? How the hell happened? Man. He gotta just spoke on it. I ain't got no problem. He went in here. So, you know, you know, respect. He's Boosie. I've been knowing him for a while before I started rapping cause he used to come to the city. So the radio station going, anybody come to the city, you famous or whatever, they gonna get in touch with me. So, he also signed my little first relative, his name D. Rogers. He from Huntsville too. So that's how me and Boosie really linked that in. Huntsville, how far is that from Atlanta? Atlanta, three hour, three and a half. How far is it from Birmingham? It's like hour. Oh, so I'm right there at you. I'm gonna come see you. Yeah, hour 45. But do you, do you even be over there anymore? Yeah, I'll be over there. I'ma pull up. Pull up, come on. I'ma give you my number now. I'ma do that too. Wherever I'm at. I'ma come see you. I'ma come see you. I'll be in Tennessee. We the same way. I'm going them three. I don't really go to back to Baton Rouge or New Orleans that much. I'll be on the West Coast sometime. Not since I broke my leg though. But I know all the artists up there, man. Shout out to 211. Yeah. You know what I mean? R.P. to Slim 400. Me and Slim 400 did that McAvelli song. Why are you in there? We got a video. You ain't looking at my videos, bro. I looked at the new and then I seen the core Southern thing. And I was like, this is what I like to do. I'ma talk about it, you know. But I really, to be honest with you, I was let down. Okay? At first I was told he ain't coming. Right. So then you had to back up a little bit. Then I'm like, but yeah, I'm telling you because I got excited as hell when she first told me. I went right to looking and putting on. I said, why didn't they got an interview anywhere? Then what is N***a B? Can't even talk about it. Then I seen your After Porch, I believe. Yeah, I was After Porch in DJ Smalls. DJ Smalls. I seen both of those. DJ Smalls. I didn't listen to them, but I seen them. I did hip hop weeklies, hip hop United. She used to work right for hip hop weekly. And then she got her own thing called Hip Hop United. That's hard, man. Like I said, how important is the blogs, man? Man, very important. Like I was telling Trouble Two Time, the blogs is very important to get yourself out there and get you noticed. That's what I'm thinking with the blogs right now. It's very important when you're dropping something. Wow. Because how you gonna market it? How you gonna get it seen? What did you think about Dallas before you even came up? Or do you come up here a lot? Man, not really. Okay, so when you look at Dallas and you think about Dallas, what comes to mind? Man, you know what? Dallas, I think of the Cowboys. You a Cowboy fan? Nah, I'm a 49er fan. Oh, damn! I'm a 49er fan. Fuck that. You know, my relative Roland McClain played for the Cowboys. I was a Dallas fan. Then I love Emmys Smith too. So I really can't never say I'm not in this. You like it at a point. Yeah, they all right. They okay. Cowboys all right. They okay. You don't like nobody. You just hate them. He hate on anything to do and anything to hate on. You over them up. Nah, I told you, I'm cool with the Cowboys. Just say fans. Fuck all the fans. Yeah, we don't care about losing. We still number one. That's what he don't like. Nah, it ain't that. Once you lose a game, why the hell you gotta have a fight after the game? What do you mean? Why do you have to have a fight? Like a fan. For what? They fight after the game. That's all. They got shit to do with you. The Cowboys lost, not you. Yeah, but they just be talking. It don't matter. What happens if you stick just on and break your bum a little? No, that ain't true. We know it wasn't true. We know that shit ain't true. That shit cost a lot of fights. Man, how many things you think caused fights when the niggas said, man, your mama niggas? That caused a lot of fights. You say your mama niggas get a man. Not a money. Hell, right. Even you a little? Nah. Yeah, we put the stick on the shoulder two back in the day. I ain't really close. You know niggas do anything to get a nigga to get it off. Try to fight, yeah. I ain't had no problems. So man, like, so you gonna come back to Dallas, man, I gotta come down there to get the interview. I'm gonna come down there. Because I come out there. I don't, like I said, I went to Atlanta what, three times? My brother-in-law lived. My brother-in-law lived in Atlanta. Yeah, so I'd be coming through. So I told you I did the one in Birmingham for the foot soldier lady. She old. She like 70. What's her name? Pro-P-Sum, ain't it? Paul Leta. Paul Leta. She right there by that green, right next door. You got the chicken place in the in the up place. That's her place right next door. And they be talking about all the history. My kids grew up going through that when we go to Atlanta. And so they, she love the kids. But at the end of the day, I'm gonna come down there and rock with you. Come out there, man. Cause I'm gonna interview, you give me a couple of interviews out there? Yeah, for sure. Whoever it was, whatever you did. Yeah, who you want me to give for you? It don't matter. Whoever it's gonna be a good interview, no matter what, we gonna have fun. For sure. That's the, we went down the gutter down in Little Rock, we went out in New Orleans. We did, you ever go to New Orleans? Yeah. You know, peaches, I interview their peaches. That's where I set up at. I've been at Juve, we got a new Juve Tuesday. I've been telling him I'm coming out there for Juve Tuesday. He got a Juve Tuesday? Yeah, he been trying to get me to come out there and do some recording. Well, you know, me and K.A. are real close. But that's my guy, like we on the phone. So that's how I end up over there. I interview him and Mack and all of them. So I love to go places and, you know, link up with my people, man. For sure. I'm gonna come see you. Like this nigga, K.A. ain't got nothing there, man. Come to Huntsville. What you gonna do? You gonna go out, you know what I'm saying? I'm just gonna go and I'm just gonna come and set up. Yeah, I'm gonna set up. I'm gonna set up and just have a good time talking to y'all. Just get me to get some people to come through. Yeah, that's it. You gonna be my host. You gonna be down there with me. You money mow, gonna sit back and talk. Let's do it. And some good food. Yeah, that's the food. Man. G's country kitchen, man. You gotta hit that G's. G's. G's country kitchen. That's the soulful spot. So who do I hit for the greens? Oh, man, but I wanna hear about it. He got you. Yeah, you good at it. Top three out there. Have I ever let you down? On the green when we go places, them niggas always got it. No, you worry about it. You good. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive. You know, Tupac, number one. Number one, you see him right there. I don't keep him in there. You got Tupac. What? Big poster. Man, you know, I'ma give it to you like this. Number two, my favorite new rapper. I gotta give it to, I'ma give it to you. It don't have to be a rapper either because she be trippin' on it in general. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive. My top three. Your top three. Tupac. Tupac. Don't have to be a rapper. No. I like Michael Jackson. Yeah, that's the one everybody's saying. Number three. Let me see who else. You got everybody else for this number three. Damn. I'ma have to say shit, man. I don't know, that's a hard one. I can say Jay-Z, I can say T.I. Jay-Z? No, you can't say no. No, I said one. Jay-Z? Which one? Who, Jay-Z? Jay-Z? Yeah. All pretty, man. Me, Jay-Z, man. I've been giving Jay-Z a tough time this week. I wanna apologize. I gotta apologize. Jay-Z was my error, because I made a lot of money mentioning to young Jay-Z. What you mean? You ain't doing nothing wrong. No, cause, well, you know, some people. Somebody got shit light on it. Yeah, blood, rock, came through. Jody Breeze, they telling all these people. You ain't nobody saying that. Everybody doing everything in the game, man. You know what I'm saying? But the nigga music was motivated. Oh, yeah, it was, motivation. And during the recession, Jay-Z killed it, it motivated everybody through the game. He did, you know what I'm saying? You know, he had a bad contract deal. That was on him. Salute, my nigga. That's real. Cause you signed up for it, right? Yeah. Or, no, you gotta go out and listen to the story. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on. Let me get some real stuff. Don't forget, I was around. Hold up, 211 got pushed back. Blood roll actually was on. Oh, yeah, man, watch it, brother. Where your money at? So you got invested. The roll was USDA. He was. 211 didn't get no air. No air time. Now, motherfucker, blood roll. Where your bread at, homie? So he supposed to have that bread there. Where your bread? You had them big-ass USDA chains on. I know them diamonds, real. I didn't want you to stop. Oh, damn. Man, I got a studio since I got to go. You and Jeff had to get live, right? We been going all the way. Jesus, my nigga, man. You know what I'm saying? That's hard, cause I ain't. Baby salute, baby bird, man, slim, too. Yeah, you met bird, man? I gotta ask you this, both of you get off this panel. I gotta ask you about, I think I seen you speak on, was it Young Greatness in the comments? Man, yeah, Young Greatness. I love Young Greatness, man. That's my dog. You know what, I met him at the BET Experience, but we been knowing each other from Atlanta, but I kind of talked to him more at the BET Experience. Got killed out today. We supposed to link up, man? Yeah, cause I met Paco with Paco and me talking. I was in New Orleans. That's good to do. You remember I seen you, you see me on that interview? That was in New Orleans. So that's what I say, man. He another victim of violence. Yeah. This is crazy, man. But I just want you to know, man, there ain't no cap, man. I'm really, I'm gonna come see you. I'm gonna rock with you. Once I meet you, I'm gonna stay close to you. You a real one for even coming on my show. I ain't nobody. You know what I'm saying? But you can't hardly let me go. Everybody's somebody, man. No, but I mean what I say. Everybody's somebody, my brother. I'm just a nigga, I get it, but I'm just a nigga from humble beginnings. You know what I'm saying? So I don't look at it like I'm this, that, but I'm saying you didn't have to come here and you took your time out to come here and bless our show. So thank you so much, my guy. You know what I'm saying? Respect, appreciate y'all, man. Check it, man. We love you, bro. How can people get a hold of you? You can reach me on Instagram, K-A-N-E-B-W-A. Real talk, man. Real talk. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss' talk. Spell.