 Welcome back to the Nintendo Prime Podcast. Season 2 Episode 64. Jake is not here today. He did stop in early just to let us know, hey, because a pack ceased and everything going on. He's trying to go to bed super early so he can get really bricked up over the weekend. So gonna have a good time. Josh is all confused over there. He's like, what is going on? What did I step into? Jake's not here. Probably much worse. He's lost to get real bricked up every show. Don't ask. Don't ask. Like Mario Bricks, right? That's what it's referring to. Totally. Sure. I hope. Anyways, guys, we have a pretty good show today. We're going to be talking about some Princess Peach Showtime stuff because it is launch week. So I don't know how long we'll talk about it. Kind of depends on where the conversation goes. I know some people aren't excited. And that's okay. That's okay. We're also going to talk a little bit about some switch to stuff because there's a few rumors that kind of cropped up over the last week. And then, hey, it is our 64th episode. So we're going to talk about some N64 goodness because why not go a little retro? Why not? It feels like we need a little bit of retroness before we get to the end of Season 2. So we're going to start with the way that we do every single time we go around the room, introduce everyone. And what have they been playing lately? Let's start with our first timer guest, Josh, from the Bitblog. I'm a Nintendo Prime version. And I hope that you're all gentle with me here. What have I been playing? Yeah. I have been playing Splatoon 3's salmon run mode a lot. I'm kind of addicted to it. I really like it. I think it's the best mode in the game. Although I'm kind of like mid-tier added, but I'm getting better. So yeah, I've been playing a lot of that. Ironically enough, and well, I guess we'll talk about this later. I've been playing some of the N64 stuff on the Switch online app, Mario Party, classic Mario Party. So yeah, just revving up for that amazing game of the year with Princess Peach. You ready for that? I'm pretty excited. Pretty excited. Nice. Andros, what are you playing lately, bud? I'm still playing Elton Ring. Hell yeah. How's it going? I got my third great rune yesterday evening. I defeated Rodan or Rodan, the giant dude on the dead moving horse in the Red Desert. Yes, I know. I took advantage of all of my little helper friends. And that was fun. But yeah, I've been having a good time with it. I don't just go straight to the main quest. I definitely go off the beaten path a lot. I made sure to kind of dominate the Dragon's Barrow area first. And so that's been kind of a bit of a good time. I hear some Zelda going on right now. It's interesting. Yeah. You just heard the music? No, I didn't just hear it. Okay. It's been a little too loud. It's been a little in and out. Yeah. But I see. I see. I see. It's in and out. Okay. That's okay. It's okay. Yeah. But yeah, Elton Ring's been awesome. Awesome, man. Yeah. Eric, you're literally playing right now. I am. Cause I am playing Tears of the Kingdom. I think I am on my last light group. So that's why I'm kind of just trying to power through this. I need to get it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm doing. Plus we're not to the N64 topic yet. So you got a little time. I'll make sure I open my mouth quite a bit until then. Shut up, Eric. You're talking too much. Mike, what? Wait, where do those glasses come from? They look pretty fresh. You just transformed. They are. They're blue light glasses to block the blue light so that I can see you guys. But they're very bold. Yeah. They make a statement a little bit. I like the yellow highlights. They make that look pretty cool. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Yeah. These are the Mike Odyssey show. Got glasses. They'll be making more appearances in a later show. So, yeah, they are for sale and sponsored at, um, um, yeah. That's what they are. There you go. That's it. You're making a fashion statement. I was wondering if you got some tips from JT Shine over there. I got it for $2 at Amazon. They're $2 in Amazon. $2, you know. I was going to say they're kind of giving some cool Splatoon vibes. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. Are you kidding or squid? What's going on? I bought them as, um, as a, what do you call that? Like, um, to see how they look, how see how they fit. And so that hopefully later on, I can start my own gaming glasses, kind of feel. So, you know, making sure that I can, you know, why, and, and it's kind of fitting because I am legally blind. So kind of a blind person selling you glasses, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of good. Okay. Yeah. I think what I'm confused is that when you're legal, when you're blind, that doesn't necessarily mean you just see like black, like there's. Well, like I, I, I, I'm completely blind in this eye. And what I see is just like a blanket of blur. So it's not necessarily, um, dark. There are people who see just because, yeah, because it's just, they have, but can you tell if there's like a light? Like if you turn the, let's say that, that, that eye that's completely blind, right? If you were to have that, just that eye open, and you were to turn off the lights and turn it on, would you be able to tell? Yeah, I can see, I can see, I can tell us if it's dark or not. You wouldn't be able to distinguish anything else beyond that though. No, no, just, uh, just, just a whole bunch of, uh, like if I see like a big jack, it has to be like a really fat person that we're in like red or blue or red that could tell the color. But, um, that's it. Um, big shapes like cars and stuff. I can see like the shape of it. I don't know if it's a car or not, but I can see the shape. That's just me, Mike. I'm sorry. I'm trying to take care of that. I'm trying to slim down so I look more like a stick. You can see the green, the green, right? The bucks. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not, you know, I'm used to it. This is my good. I got my transplant. So, um, it's good. Were you born like that, Mike? Or was this something happened? It happened in my teens. So it's like, uh, it's called Kurt DeCornis. It's like one in 2,000 or 5,000 people have it. It slowly takes your cornea, which is like the round part of your eye and the top of your eye. And it, and it kind of morphs it into an oval, like an egg shape instead of round. So the more it turns into an egg, the light comes in and doesn't go in right into the lens and makes everything blur up. It progresses to a point where the cornea itself can actually have a scar. And if that happens or breaks, then you have the, you need a cornea transplant. And so I've already had one on this side. They told me I can't do it on this one because this one's too far gone. But, uh, but this one is good. Well, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What I've been playing lately. Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy 16 is 16. 16. That's the one that just came out, right? 16. Something like that. No, no, Rebirth, Rebirth. It was Rebirth. It was Rebirth. I was like, I did Final Fantasy 16. I didn't like it. But I like Final Fantasy Rebirth. It's really, really good. I like the open world exploration and really cool stuff. I did Final Fantasy, uh, Rebirth. I downloaded Princess Peach. It's all a title. I played it for about two minutes before, after I was interrupted. But that was basically it. My daughter's okay. Okay. Cool. Cool. Uh, let me see. What have I been playing? Um, we'll play some hard work legacy on Switch. It's, it's rough at times, but really fun. And then, uh, I replayed the Princess Peach Showtime demo again. Which is because it was coming out this week, because I'm still undecided on that one. And then, uh, what else? I also was playing, what was the one I was playing? I'm using the next word. Uh, what was I playing? You know what? I'm really drawing a blank right now. There was something I was playing a lot of and now I don't remember. You know what? It's been one of those weeks. It's just been one of those weeks. Maybe, was I playing on Switch or was I even playing on Switch? Let's drink Dr. Pepper, what? Yes, it's delicious. Oh, back up a little bit. I can't, well back up a little bit. What is that? What is that? Wait, is that the strawberry one? It's like, uh, uh, strawberry and cream? Strawberry and cream? Zero. I am hooked. And it's zero calories? You can't even tell, man. It's addicting. Yeah, it has zero calories. I'm going to go to Amazon and order me some rice. That's what I got. Fortnite. Maybe I should get Dr. Pepper to sponsor me. That's a good idea. Yeah, because we can just make everyone sponsor us. That'd be great. We want you to pay us money to support you because I want your product. Anyways, you know, it goes both ways. Yes. The only doctor I have a good opinion of. Oh, geez. So I'll be ordering the 100% sugar version. Dude, you have the regular, the regular, correct. We have another sugar version. I have a sugar version. Is it the same color? I can't. Black in the. It's it's it's it's red and pink. No, I like this one better. The cans look better in this one. All right. Well, I mean. Better. That's you. No, no, fashion sense. This is better, the black and the pink one. I do understand you're coming in front of that. But remember, he's always fashioned up now because he's got his platoon glasses. So yeah, man, they can feel sure as well. All right, let's get to our first topic. And that is Princess Peach Showtime because it launches this week. I assume we've all played the demo and if we haven't, well, that sucks. So we did. So we had our first review come out already. I was hoping reviews would drop today unless we drop in tomorrow. It was a 33 out of 40. He said the game's kind of short, which I sort of suspected it might be a shorter game. And then it's a good introduction to action games for young players, whatever that means. It's thinking about submits of reviews. They don't tell you a whole lot about anything. So that's why I was hoping other reviews would drop. So there'd be more to talk about for this topic. But I'm going to actually throw it over to, you know, Mr. Josh over there because he was. Did you say game of the year material? I mean, I was being slightly sarcastic. If we look at the three published Nintendo titles that will have been out through the first three months, I would agree it's probably better than the prior two. It's the only brand new one. So wait, there was Mario vs. Donkey Kong. And then what was the other one? Another code recollection. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm a huge fan of Mario vs. Donkey Kong, so I might still go with that over pieces. Okay, you know what? You might be right. Yeah. The Mario vs. Donkey Kong is awesome. Period. That's a great game. Yeah, yeah. So what do you think about this game? What are we doing? Well, the demo, I thought, you know, I mean, I think everybody kind of has similar vibes about this game where it's like, yes, it is easy. And, you know, I've started, some people talk about how like, oh, just because it's a Princess Peach game doesn't mean it should be easy or aimed at younger audiences. And I'm kind of like, no, yeah, that does, that is what that means. Like, why would you make the Princess Peach game challenged, like overly challenging? And, you know what I mean? Like, sometimes I'm okay with just saying, yeah, this one's not directed at me. I'm not the target audience, but I could still enjoy it and still have fun with it. I mean, there's a new season of Fragile Rock coming to Apple TV Plus, and I am not the target demographic of Fragile Rock, but I'm going to be watching it. Sure. But yeah, I mean, it thought it was fun. The demo was fun. It was kind of short, but, you know, we just got two areas. You do go back to the areas after you complete them, so that could add replay value and stuff. Especially because you want to get, like, all the stars, apparently, and stuff. Yeah, yeah. You got to unlock all the fashion for Princess Peach. Come on, what do you mean? You get all this different stuff? Dumb. It is weird, though. Famitsu gave it like a 33 out of 40, you said, right? Yeah. That's actually kind of a low score for Famitsu, based on what I've seen. They're usually on the higher scale of reviews, right? Yeah, I mean, usually it's like 34, 35. Every game gets, and then the good ones get like 37. So just to put it in perspective, it's an 82.5 out of 100. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's still pretty high. Famitsu is, I think, generally pretty more, they're more favorable to a lot of games, especially Nintendo, right? From what I see. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah. Well, I think what should be taken into consideration, right, is that they're from the East, right? So like their perspectives are a little bit different than like a Western perspective. You know, like people here who are like, oh yeah, Call of Duty is like pretty like, you know, we get that. I'm not saying you wouldn't get that if you're in Japan, but there is kind of some inclinations towards a style of gaming over there versus here. Like that's just the case. Like there's a reason Xbox doesn't perform well in Japan. Right, right. But I mean, you know what actually, the last thing I'll say about it is like, it kind of reminds me of the days where you'd get like Wario World or Luigi's Mansion in like the GameCube days where you'd get these spin-off titles with characters. Sure. It feels kind of like Wario World to me, but with Princess Peach in the sense that it's like kind of weird. It's not amazing. It's not on a Mario level of quality, but you still feel like, hey, that was kind of a unique thing to play and I'm happy I played it sort of a deal. Yeah, no, I get that. I think that's a good comparison. I look at Luigi's Mansion as something else now. Yeah, that's higher up. But I can see where you're coming from. Definitely Wario. I get the Wario vibes a lot. Like it's definitely like a late generation. Hey, let's tell them to try something else with a smaller developer. They're going to use one of their lesser. Well, I mean, Peach is not well known, but let's say lesser used characters. And it's a fun, simple, A out of 10 kind of game. The question is, the big question is, did you play Super Princess Peach? Me? I actually, I think Super Princess Peach might be a little better. Okay, that was the question. The style and the ideas seem like they're a little bit more specific, a little bit more controlled, whereas this is kind of like, let's just throw everything at the wall and see what sticks, which can be fun, but maybe not as good as Super Princess Peach. I don't know, though. Haven't played it all yet. We'll see. Yeah, I'm very curious what the later part of the game is, because the thing is, with a demo, I always, almost every demo for any Nintendo game, it seems kind of easy. So I don't really, because they're not trying to show you too much of the game. And if it's a shorter game, well, yeah, you're just going to get the easiest stuff out of the way just to give you an idea what the gameplay is like. I don't know. I think this game is going to get super hard either. I think it's one of those things, like you said, Josh, like when I hear a Peach game, I hear, well, this should be an easier side of Mario. Like Mario has a certain level of challenge and some of it can get really difficult, but just to beat the main already has its main. And I expect Peach to be less than that. And I think it's weird saying like, why would I, why would I expect that? And I'm like, I don't, it's just the way it is. Like a Wario Land game is significantly harder, base difficulty wise. Now we don't get Wario Land games anymore, but when we did get them, it's, they were a lot harder at their base difficulty than a Mario game was. And for some reason I just like a Princess Peach, I think it's trying to hit on more children. You know, you always feel like princesses, well, who really seems to care about princesses a lot? Little girls and stuff like that. So you're like trying to hit on a specific audience where you maybe, and I just say this for my kids, they get overly frustrated at times if they can't beat something and they quit. And that sucks because when I was a kid, you would just keep playing, but that's just not the way today's society is. So I kind of expected to be a bit on the easier side. I just wanted to be, I want the gameplay mechanics to just be actually fun. And I like, and people make fun of me for this. I thought the gameplay mechanics when making the cakes were actually pretty clever and I liked it. That was the best part of the demo. That's like the most fun. If they have more clever ideas like that for the rest of the game, I think it might be a fun little 10 hour, 12 hour romp. The original Luigi's Mansion, you can beat your first time in like six or seven hours. And that game to me is like, that's like a legendary game to me. That's one of my favorite video games ever. I replayed every Halloween. It's meant to be replayed exactly. You could have the same vibe with this Princess Peach game. Going back to what you said though, about kids, I don't have kids myself yet, but I have nieces and they're starting to get to the age where they really want to play games. They want to play on their dad's switch and everything. And they wanted to play Luigi's Mansion for the switch, but they just couldn't understand like, oh, you have to shine on the light on the ghost. And then you have to quickly hit the shoulder button and suck them up. And it's like too much for a beginner gamer to understand. And there are kids that are really advanced with games. Sure, there's a lot that, there's a lot that will struggle with things. And then they might not want to be a gamer. They might not want to play games because it's too hard. So I do think sometimes, like we as gamers, adult gamers, we might take for granted how difficult basic stuff can be. So I'm all for Princess Peach being like this beginner game to get young people into it. That's cool. And like I said, anybody can enjoy it. Yeah, it's probably more like girls, but if you're a young boy, you can play it. Nobody's going to arrest you or whatever. So yeah, I don't, I think it knows what it needed to be. Local boy arrested for playing Princess Peach Showtime. He got all the stars. I think what, something we forget is like, you know, people just get it into certain games, a certain genres of games. They need their beginning entry in. And they're not always going to get into it if it's a dark soul, a slappy in the face kind of thing. That's something you work up towards the more difficult games. And like, you know, some, you know, like my one son, he's actually starting to get into the more difficult games. But if he didn't get an easier entry point, like even like a Roblox or something, just something that's much simpler to get into, they don't try that harder stuff because they don't, it's just kids already deal with a lot of learning and maybe failing in school or getting a bad grade or whatever it is. They want to feel like they're progressing. And so I think like these easier games are for that. And I think that's one thing I think a lot of us, maybe not us on this panel, but a lot of gamers in general on the internet that have been gaming for a long time, I've seen some people be like, oh, Princess pre-sort time sucks. It's got this bad frame rate. It's got this, it's got that. I'm like, well, the game's, you whose audience for this game is, right? It's not really meant for you. I don't even know what a frame rate is. Yeah, like my children don't even know what a frame rate is. They have no idea. I mean, when we go back and play like an NES game, like Kirby on the NES, when I play that nowadays as an adult and I know video game stuff, I'm like, this runs terribly. What was going on? But as a kid, I would have never even noticed, you know. Right, I would find a 20 frames per second on N64 and that was like the game for me growing up. One of the greatest games of all time today. You'd never get away with someone ever calling the game that, running at 20 FPS, ever. No, right. Just didn't care about that. People would be demanding for refunds. Yeah, can't believe it's ever released this broken game. Did they ever confirm the developer is good feel, right, behind Princess Peach? Is it confirmed or just really likely based off a data mine? It's confirmed. It's good feel. Okay. Good that feel. You know, it's funny. It, I kind of felt like it was good feel just from looking at it in the early trailer because it looks like it's such a good lean into from Crafted World. Yoshi's Crafted World has the kind of same vibes. Yeah, they're both using Unreal Engine. Which I'm excited about. I'm making a game in Unreal Engine. So it's an amazing engine to make games in. But yeah, it's funny. I will say though, I feel like good feels games in terms of the quality is slowly dipping a little bit. Like I look at, I look at Wario Land Shake It and Kirby's Epic Yarn. And I feel like those are probably the better ones they've done, you know, like Crafted World I liked. Princess Peach I like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I do feel fine. But it doesn't feel like those other ones you talked about back on Wii, like it just, those just felt a little bit crisper, a little cleaner. Just a little more time put into them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they are known for making like easier games. Like famously you can't even die in Kirby Epic Yarn. Like they didn't just pick you up and put you right back onto the stage. So they made an amazing game over the like holiday season in Japan. It's called like Mamada Baku. That game is other than Pikmin 4, that was like my game of the year last year. I swear by that game. It's so fun. It's really cool. So, but yeah, they're a good developer. I think they're pretty good. I mean, there's good is right in their name. So, you know, it's a good feel. Yeah, it's a good feel. They're trying to give you good feelings around you. Good feelings. I'm going to cut whenever I release my first game, I'm going to call my development studio Great Feel. Just one number a little bit. Oh, yeah. My games are a little bit better. It'll be funny if the feel changes their name when they decide to make like an open world game. Like, oh, here we go. We're up in it. And if I ever open a game studio, mine's just going to be called A Little Bit Better. Mine's going to be All the Feels. All the Feels. There you go. Mine's going to be like just basic games. Basic AF. I like the idea of just calling your development studio video game studio or like something that's literally just what it is. Or good enough games. Games of video. Good enough games. Oh, man. It also makes sense that we're seeing a Good Feel game right about now, right? Because Good Feel is not an internal Nintendo studio, right? This is technically, they can make games for other companies. This is a partner project, technically. Yeah, they make mobile games. Yeah. And so like, the idea is that Nintendo's kind of holding back their own projects for Switch 2 or what have you. Like, we haven't seen, we don't have any confirmed games that we know were made by an internal Nintendo originally, because obviously we're getting remakes and remasters, but we assume that those remake remaster jobs are probably being outsourced and maybe supervised by the main team, but not like all hands on deck. Was Mario vs. Donkey Kong that remake? Wasn't that made by the team that originally made it at Nintendo or did they outsource the remake? Is that an ST? I'm not sure. That's a good question. Who made the Mario vs. Donkey Kong remake? Yeah, because that studio is like the one American Development Studio. I think they have. They don't have many teams that work here. Yeah, it is an ST, but I guess I'm, yeah, I'm curious to, did they Nintendo software technology corp? Yeah, so there you go. Well, that's what it says on Google, but that was, it could have been the original. That's why I'm curious. They also made a 10-10 snowboarding in the credits of the game. Yeah, you can check the credits. Yeah, the credits will probably tell you. If that's the original or if there was a different team that did it. Because they always have credits to the original team, of course. For sure. Let me make your answer. I can't remember why I went down this line of question. I forgot what my point was at this point, but yeah. Well, because I have to say, like there isn't like any, like currently. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Nintendo themselves made the game this year. And I mean, maybe that's the one exception. I don't know. I guess we'll find out. Yeah, Mario, Mario vs. Donkey Kong Nintendo Switch, Super Mario Wiki says Nintendo Software Technology Corporation. Okay. I didn't even think they were still alive. I thought they were done for. Yeah, that's exciting. They should make a new wave race next. That's yes. I mean, we want to say something that from a Nintendo internal studio that we do know is being developed. Metroid Prime 4, technically. Oh, yeah, that's that's slated for 2024. Technically, I mean, it's just slated to exist. Give us rumors. Let's hear it. When is it coming? You have to know by now. I don't know anything. I hope it's this year, but then I don't know because I kind of want like a Switch 2 version to be nice to come at the same time. I hope it's this year, but I also hope it isn't this year because I want the back version. But it's fine. Honestly, if it's this year, cool. Nintendo, if you are absolutely just not going to say anything about Switch 2 at all this year, give me Metroid Prime 4 then. Like this whole year, say nothing about a new system and then also don't give me any like big games. That would just suck. You don't even have a Pokemon game as far as where we're coming yet. So it only exists for two reasons. Okay, Metroid Prime 4. Two reasons. Number one, to recruit people. Hey, come work with us. We're working on Metroid Prime 4. And number two, to be like added to the meetings so the developer shareholder meetings at the end, TDA. So the developers. Oh, you guys didn't hear no games in the work. Have you seen Metroid Prime 4? It's down there in TDA. So seven years from now, we're going to be like, hey, it's still got Metroid Prime 4. Yeah, they're hiring. Any day now. Hey, can we go to the classes remake that they were working on forever? You know, it was like a decade for that one. Let's go. Yeah, but that remake was amazing. It was a very good remake, but still it was a decade in the making, which is insane. Yeah. Is there any possibility that, even though the Metroid Prime 4 was announced for the switch, that it doesn't release on the switch? I think so. I think I can see that. Yeah. Well, it's possible that I could die right this second because an asteroid will come out of nowhere and blow me up. Yes, it's possible. But is it plausible? I know that was coming. Yeah. But is it plausible? I would say, yeah, I would say I would say it's very unlikely. Just because one Nintendo initially announced it for Nintendo Switch, then in between 2019, when they announced the restart, they made a promise as a switch game to deliver upon that initial quality. And it's been listed as a switch game every single investor's meeting. To be fair, Switch is the only platform announced. Right. But they could have not, it's still been listed specifically for Switch this entire time. They can't say they're mine. Has to be. They have no other system announced. What else are they going to list it for? Would people be mad? I'm not going to remove the listing because then people think the games can't. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying it's unlikely. I don't know. I might roll the same page. I don't think it's likely. I think it could be switched to, I think it could be switched to exclusive under basically one major caveat. The game is still years away. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they were kind of stuck. Just to be honest, just to be honest, it's better not be years away. Holy crud. Listen, I'm a Pikmin fan. I've waited a decade for one Pikmin game. So I'm used to this kind of thing. Wait, Pikmin, come on. We don't listen. I will leave right now if you mentioned that game again. I'm out of here. Well, so I've heard some people say that it might be, maybe it's going to be like Zelda, Twilight Princess, or like Breath of the Wild, where it has like, you know, I could be that for sure. I mean, I don't know, but there is a little bit of a difference because Twilight Princess, we'd seen footage of and Breath of the Wild, we saw footage of, like they existed as a Wii U game and as a GameCube game, you know? Whereas Prime 4, that game, like to us, everybody here watching, it doesn't even exist. Like we know it's being made, but we haven't seen anything. So it would be, I feel like it wouldn't be such a like slap in the face. Because I'd be, I kind of want it to just be on the more powerful system, maybe exclusively for the new powerful system. Because aren't we all going to get it anyway? Right? Yeah. Right. That energy is why I'm like, hey, I'll wait until next year, if that means we get a cross-gen version of Prime 4. Yeah. Nintendo has so many opportunities in Nintendo Directs to say, hey, it's still development or something like that, but no better whatsoever. They don't try to get along at all. It's kind of just occurred to me recently. Right? It's just all, you know, just speculation upon speculation. Right? But if we assume there's an April in Tell and Direct as rumored, right? And we assume that Prime 4 is going to be kind of like saved for next year for Switch 2 as a cross-gen title. Right? I could see Metro Prime 4 entering that environment of being even more like Twilight Princess and Breath of the Wild, where let's say they showcase Prime 4 as like a big game during the Direct. And then all of a sudden, very similar to Breath of the Wild, it's like that big hype game that Nintendo can talk about in the year prior to the console launch. But then it's part of that launch window as a cross-gen title early next year. So I'm just saying there's an avenue where all of a sudden Prime 4, you know, let's say a month from now, looks a lot more like the Breath of the Wild situation. Yeah, I could see that. I mean, Metroid's not the brand that Zelda is, of course. So it's not, it's not. But I will say even before the big Zelda jump, you know, Zelda was definitely bigger than Metroid, right? But no one thought Breath of the Wild was going to sell 30 plus million. Right? So like, what if Metroid Prime 4 becomes like a 10 million seller, you know? And then that would be kind of like, hey, that's a solid launch window game. The only reason why I don't want Metroid Prime 4 to be on Switch is because it'll be a Switch game moving forward that was ported to the Nintendo Switch 2. I want them to develop for Switch 2 with all the power of the Switch 2 behind it to a point where because I have high expectations for that game, I want it to be this massive to impress. You know what I mean? I don't want the Breath of the Wild experience. But yeah, that was a Wii U game running on Switch and then we have to make the Breath of the Wild series of Kingdom to kind of see some jump or whatever. I want it to be a Switch 2 exclusive and be just the biggest game ever. Yeah. I got high expectations. You know? I feel it blows my mind. One of what blows my mind. Metroid Prime was made in two years. Metroid Prime 2 was made in two years. The George Mass was made in less than two years. Like some of our favorite games of all time had ridiculously short development titles. And here where we're waiting six to seven years for Metroid Prime 4 in tears of the Kingdom. Mario Party 6 was made in less than one year and it's the best Mario Party ever. So there you go. I mean sometimes, like you just have a good idea and it works. Just go with it. Yeah. Yeah. Those were the days when we didn't have to wait a decade for a new Zelda. Now it's no. But it felt longer though because we had no games to play in between. It's so funny. This is totally random. But I was thinking about how people are kind of romancing the Wii U days now. They're like, man, I miss kind of the Wii U and I'm like, no, you don't. We went eight months without a game and then it was finally like Game & Wario or something. So I was like, no, you're looking back with some rose-tinted goggles. That was, yeah. I feel like I was at war during the Wii U day. Yeah. Back during the Wii U days, Princess Peach Showtime would have been the game for the first half of the year. Oh yeah. That would have been a huge, huge release. Yeah. I mean, you misses the most. Where were you? Why did you buy one? How many 20 million sales? 20 million sales for the Wii U? I mean, where were you back then? Why are you talking now? Well, we talked a little bit about Metro Prime there and going into Switch 2, which I think is a good transition to our second topic on Switch 2 because there were some new rumors out there. The biggest ones over the last week probably coming from two places. One was Nate the Hate who threw out there just some stuff that he heard. He was talking about stuff he heard last month where he had a half dozen sources telling him about the 2025 delay. He said he doesn't know when it's coming or when it's being announced or anything like that. He put his opinion out there, of course, that he thinks Nintendo will probably at least have a brief mention of it at their next investors meeting, which is something I've been saying for a while that I think might happen to if it's coming out next fiscal year because it would be part of their financial forecast. So there could be a codename drop or some sort of like, they're going to be asked directly if it's coming out like they are every year. And it'll be interesting to see how Nintendo responds to that at all if the plan is for it to come out next fiscal year, which begins next month for those unaware of how Nintendo runs their fiscal years. That being said, the biggest part of the rumor was probably that he also mentioned that Nintendo has contacted third-party companies for assets that he described as trailers. And why would Nintendo need trailers from third-party companies for Switch 2 if it wasn't for a presentation? I'm just throwing that out there. He didn't say it was going to be a presentation, but he's like, why the hell else would Nintendo be asking Switch 2 trailers? So I don't know if that means that there's a reveal coming soon, like why Nintendo wouldn't need trailers now if they weren't planning something, but... How long was it between the like first reveal of the original Switch and when they actually like really revealed it? What was that time period? April 2016. January? I mean, well, so... They said NX back in... 2015, the NX one, right? I thought it was April 2016. Well, okay, so there's a tweet where Nintendo confirmed that their new console, codename NX, would be coming... That was on April 27, 2016. That's when they told us the release date. But I would like to think that the NX plans were mentioned as early as 2015. But whenever they announced it done, they announced it at the same time. And it's because the Wii U was dead. You know, they had to keep shareholders happy in the way. Say, hey, we're moving forward with this. I know... They announced the mobile partnership with Denna and that was what made them want to mention NX because they wanted to assure consumers they weren't leaving the console space. Yeah. But the trailer with the guy that looked like Chris Pratt and then he goes out and walks the dog, that was like the first time we physically saw the system, you know? So I got confirmation here. It looks like, yeah, they had announced... Seven years ago on March 17, 2015, Nintendo NX was announced. So, yeah, they probably... You were saying DNA, right, Nate? Yeah, yeah. They announced it at the same time. They announced them. That's correct. So that's when they announced it. I think that's when they were just kind of talking about their plans overall, right, how they had this future call until the NX. They're moving into mobile gaming. So they were kind of outlining everything. And then April 2016, they put out a tweet on social media saying that the NX, until it's next iteration console, would be coming out March 2017. So they confirmed the actual release date, April, the year prior. So that would position us to maybe see something similar next month. Yeah, then they talked about it, E3 that year where they said that, that's when they said Breath of the Wild is going to be a launch game for it. But they won't say anything else about the system. And then they revealed the system in October, big blowout in January with this March. Yeah, so that's... I think that timeline is what I was mostly focusing on because I feel like that would maybe be what we would see. If you'd be October to March. I think so. I think honestly, I'm just gonna make a bold prediction here. I think we get a Nintendo Direct in May or June, and they reveal what's coming for Nintendo Switch. It'll be one of those things where they specifically say for Nintendo Switch games coming in the second half of this year. And people will be like, what? What about the Switch 2? And then I think in October is when they'll show the system, they'll maybe show one game, like they'll show us Metroid Prime 4 or something. And then January, they have the big blowout and it comes out in March of next year. Maybe a repeat of what they did with the Switch. Yeah, especially if they have a lighter holiday lineup, just to keep excitement going. Like, hey, we don't really have a ton this holiday. We have like this, let's say a Zelda remaster or something is like their lead holiday time. And we're like, hey, we know, but don't worry. Here's our next big system. Get your pre-orders in, do what you need to do. And we'll just switch this holiday and we'll just bundle a bunch of games in. And yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was just going to say, looking at, I just kind of feel like Nintendo needs to confirm the console, at least. Yeah. I don't see us waiting until October and getting nothing. I mean, maybe they don't show us footage until October, which I personally think would suck, but they could get away with it. Especially if that's a march. If they at least confirm the existence of it. If they do what they did, you know, back in 2016, April, like, hey, look, here's the code name for the system. Maybe they even just give us the name, maybe a small hit. Because like, I think for like, for example, like the 3DS, they like hinted that it was going to be a 3D, like, you know, glasses-free console. Like if they do something like that to hint at what it's about, you know, just like a line or two. Yeah. And just confirm when it's coming. So we at least know. That's what Nate the hate kind of said, that he feels like would have to happen at that May investors meeting. Just like something that just like Nintendo just acknowledges that exists and it's coming. And that's pretty much all you're going to get. At least that's what he suspected then. And he said he has no idea. None of his sources know when Nintendo is going to reveal it, only that they sent Nintendo trailers for games are working out for Switch 2. So yeah, I pray, I pray. Just a little rumors, by the way, guys. These aren't facts. Yeah. Rumors. Like what Josh is suggesting, honestly, I don't even know if it's bold. I think that's kind of like, that's what history suggests. Right? Like, yeah. What I pray for, though, is that rumor that we're getting an April Direct. So we get the big Direct in April finally, right? And then supposedly with that rumor, we're getting the June Switch 2 reveal. And that makes it sound like it's more than just, hey, it exists. It makes it sound like we're going to see actual, like some level of promotional material, maybe actually a footage of the console or a game or two. Like to me, that would be more exciting just because especially if the second half of the year, we don't have a lot of big releases. But I don't know, maybe Nintendo does have like some solid stuff for the second half of the year and then it won't care once we get this supposed April Direct. So what is the next big state that Nintendo could take and just drop that trailer? Like the next big what? The next big stage. Wait, is this Summer Gaming Fest? Oh, I mean, that's the only one coming up that involves the whole industry. Nintendo creates a stage, whatever they want. I was literally just going to say that Nintendo brings this stage, I think. I mean, all Nintendo needs to do is not do a surprise one. Just tell us, like they did with Switch. They gave us a date, like five days beforehand. They said, hey, tune in this day for the reveal of our next generation platform. And that just five days of hype and podcast and discussion and social media going nuts. What is this thing? Let's blow through all the patents. Let's piece it all together. And it might just be a three-minute trailer. And that's fine. Dude, the Switch rolled in two and a half minutes and that would seem to be like the perfect reveal trailer. Do you remember the final tears that came in the trailer like Nintendo announced? Hey, we're going to reveal the final trailer. And so like there was a buildup for it, but it was just a couple of minutes. Like I just think it's interesting. Like when we know there's a presentation and there's a buildup, okay. But when they give us like days in advance, just for a single trailer, it's... I'm not saying it's bad. It's just interesting that we'll talk about it for hours. And we're only going to get like two minutes of footage. Well, that's what being a Nintendo fan... Yeah, we won't... Yeah, we won't... We won't... We won't... Yeah. Yeah, just a... Larry, let me just say this. Remember when that... When that new art came out from Metro Studios that shows Samus with the blue? It's maybe our first concept of Metro Prime 4? I did like three podcasts on that in like two different videos. Yeah. So, Andre, how many... Andre, how many... How many theory videos did you make on that two-minute trailer? On the... There you go. Hours upon hours of discussion. I mean, like way back in the day when that Skyward Sword art leaked out of the Private E3 meeting... Well, I wasn't doing my podcast and stuff back then. I was working as Elden Former. And we had literally, I think, within a week over 25 different articles written about that one art piece. So, like, this is just what Nintendo fans... I think the fans... Like, mega fans of any company will do is take any piece of information and just start speculating and talking and being excited because I think just something as... I've learned over time as a gamer and covering games is there's... It almost makes gaming more fun to get involved in these in-depth gaming... I mean, this podcast is an example. Did we spend, you know, 20 minutes at least talking about a game that none of us think is going to be like that big of a deal, but also it's kind of cool we're even getting that kind of game. And that's nice. And, like, it just helps build excitement for stuff because, like, I'm not sold on if I'm getting Princess Peach Show time, but the more we kept talking about it, the more I'm like, you know what, I'm probably buying this thing this Friday. It's just happening. You guys almost talked me into it. You almost talked me into it. And that's what happens. And it's like... And I know what to expect. And so I'm probably not even going to be disappointed with the purchase because I already know what the game's probably going to be and I'm okay with that. So, I think that's just part of the fun of being gamers. And you guys in the chat, you guys leave all the comments and you guys are talking on socials and forums. Like, it's so... It's just fun. Yeah. So, I don't know. I think the thing about the Switch 2 that I am kind of like thinking of and that I'm mostly aware of is the moment Nintendo acknowledges that it exists and it's coming, they definitely probably hurt the sales of the current Switch because why would you go out and buy a new Switch when you know, oh, I'll just wait. This like big new thing is coming. That's true for like any video game system. You have that moment at the end of its time where, you know, you have to find just the right moment where you're like, okay, now is when we should start talking about this. So, I mean, it really just depends on like what does Nintendo have after June for the regular Switch. If they've got like three games or so, they can kind of milk that and have some third-party stuff put in there. You know, so it's really hard to say for sure, but it's exciting, damn it. It's part of the room. The part of the rumor is that it's in the one that they get rid of stock. They had further Nintendo Switch before they moved on. So, you know... Yeah, does anybody know... Does anybody know what the sales are for the Switch currently? Like, are they still... Enough, enough. Enough, yeah. Enough. They're good. I mean, yeah, really. I mean, to this day, it's still good in the seventh year. Like, you know, Nintendo can take their sweet time with another next system because their current system is still suddenly hotcakes. And that's the other scary thing. Like, I'm sure Nintendo is very aware of the idea that it's like, hey, we're not guaranteed to have another success on our hands with the next system. So, let's try to get as much out of the one that is successful while we can. While we can. They're also milking it. I was afraid they wouldn't be able to do that. Yeah, they are. I'm like, I agree. That's why I believe it should be a new name and not Switch 2. I don't know. I know I'm alone, but I'm... No Switch 2. Yeah. I'll also say, well, remember how PS2 did better than PS1? But... What? It also had a DVD player. So, that definitely helped a lot. Okay. And look at that. No other PlayStation systems come close. Kind of does that. All right. There was a 40 million plus boost. Yeah. Because of the time period, I don't want that offered. I mean, PS3 just went wild. It's consistent, though. Yeah. Like, PlayStation is a wild thing. Yeah. PS4 sold 117 million or something like that. Every PlayStation sold over 100 million except one, and that one sold over 80. So, well, let me pose this question. Right? And obviously, this is... We don't know. Nintendo doesn't know. I'm coming to you now. Sorry. Right? But hypothetically speaking, let's say Nintendo knew that if they stick with the Switch brand, they're guaranteed somewhere around 100 million, maybe and more. Now, like, you know, is it better to do that or take a risk and maybe have another 150 million console, but also maybe have another 20 million console? I got an argument with that. To be honest with you, it doesn't matter what it's called, as long as they continue with the same one factor. People know how to use one factor. It's like, you know how you use a smartphone. They call it the Galaxy. They call it the River. They call it the One. Who cares? It's the same smartphone with the same apps or whatever. As long as they continue what made the Switch successful, moving forward, the name read doesn't matter. You know what I mean? I guess it's a question of how strong is the brand of Nintendo? I mean, I think it's pretty strong. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right. I think that we, you know, a lot of us, we look at the Wii U and we're like, man, that was such a failure. And everybody's like, oh, it failed because, you know, people didn't know what it was. But the audiences for the Wii and the Nintendo Switch are definitely different. As much of a huge fan, I got a huge fan of Nintendo. I'm a huge fan of the Wii. I love that. But a lot of the audience there was like people that don't play video games, they bought it because it was the cool thing. And then it just like collected dust on the TV. They played Wii sports during the holidays because, you know, it was like a board game to them. The Switch is so much more healthy as a video game machine with its consumer base to where I don't think anybody's going to be like, wait, the Super Switch, what's that? Is that a controller? Nintendo Switch too? What is that? You know, like, I don't think, I think the audience is more wise and hip to what's going on in gaming. They're not going to be confused like Wii U was because the audience are more invested, I think. I still want a different name. Yeah, I think you're right. I still want a different name. I want something new. So yeah, it says Nintendo Switch nears $140 million lifetime sales top $122 million annual playing... $122 million annual playing users. So we have a $122 account, $122 million, and then $140 million lifetime sales for the Nintendo Switch. I think they're done. They're satisfied with that. Maybe, yeah. Something else I'll bring up, right? Like, if they do a different name, if they don't, whatever, I think something we should take into consideration is just because it's no longer Nintendo like splitting up the resources anymore. Nintendo focuses on one platform. Yeah. So the entire Nintendo audience is going to be there. So I would say, you know, worst case scenario, as long as they don't do something incredibly stupid, they're probably going to hit $100 million systems sold over the generation. Maybe don't hit $140 or $150 like a Switch, but like they'll probably be like consistent with like Sony sales where, yeah, you know, they're going to be close to $100 million, give or take. Yeah, and they already confirmed that Nintendo account are moving forward with the purchase. So as long as they confirm backwards compatibility, that only secures those people moving forward with their games, you know? Sure. Right. And that's a very big deal. The backwards compatibility, I think is going to definitely play into how they announce the next system. Because if it's like, hey, we've got like these two bigger games coming out in the holiday season this year, but don't worry if you buy them, because you'll be able to play them on like the new system. They're not locked to the original Switch, you know, where you can, you know, big 3D Donkey Kong game comes out this holiday season. It's like, don't worry, you'll still be able to play it on the next system sort of video. Yeah, but about that though, like, I think that's going to happen, but I feel like it's going to be more like, hey, you remember Pikmin 4, remember Tuesday the Kingdom, remember Bayonetta 3, these games were going to look a little bit better on Switch too. But I kind of feel like whatever comes on the second half, I don't think Nintendo can pick, I mean, they may, right? But I kind of wonder that they may not, because like, imagine playing Metroid Prime 4, for Switch this holiday, a lot of people are going to be kind of thinking, like, man, this is cool, but what if it was on Switch 2, a console that's already announced by this point, and it's running in 4K or something, that there's going to be a lot of that. So I've been kind of thinking that the lineup we see in the second half is kind of, the kind of games that we're not going to think, man, I really wish I had a 4K console for this, right? If I'm playing WinWake or HD this holiday, I'm not going to be thinking, man, I really wish I was playing this on Switch 2, because it's going to look as good as it did on Wii U, right? Or maybe the total goes in different direction, just like 2D Zelda, same difference, right? Just like Mario Wonder, or if there is like a Pokemon remake, it's a remake and maybe a Chibi style or something like Let's Go. I don't need that to be in 4K, but if we have an open world Donkey Kong game, I'm going to be like, this is really cool, but what if it was at 60 FPS with ray tracing? So that's kind of my thought process though. We'll see what Nintendo does. And what Metroid is that I see Metroid in a way, I don't know why I'm seeing it later like this, maybe because of the rumors, like Battlefield or Call of Duty type of game where they can go as far as to kind of give it a hyper realistic, I think that's the only game, right? In Switch or in Nintendo IPs, that you can give it a hyper realistic kind of look to it. And it'll still, it'll just look amazing. And Matt, I think I'll be able to go crazy over a hyper realistic Samus, right? Changing your clothes, you know, in front of you, right? So, look at them, whoo! Why are we going to do the low-shading thing? Like why are you going to throw me under the bus like that? Metroid is, I think, is the one IP when Nintendo can get actually on board with hyper realism when it comes to graphics and make it look incredible. Whatever happened to Geist? Geist, the developer is dead. They were in space. I think they're gone. Rip. Mr. Miyamoto worked on Geist. Think about that. He kind of worked on it. He helped them with ideas. It was a unique idea. I think the execution is just where the problem was at. So. Well, he later brought the idea back in Super Mario Odyssey where you possess things. That was what Geist was about. This thing is very sharp claws. My God, I was digging that. You're trying to suck your brain. It literally has the potential to do it. Yeah, I actually don't really expect Metroid Prime 4 to be photo realistic. I don't think that's what they actually go for. It is the most more realistic Nintendo game, but it's still not realistic. I would still say Metroid visuals are very stylized. If there's a spectrum, they're definitely closer to realism, but it's definitely clearly stylized. Zero Suit Samus in 4K with really good shiny shaders on her suit. Think of the shaders that used for that suit. That's got to happen. I don't even want their actual suit. Just give me Zero Suit Samus. That's the whole thing. I made this point during my stream on Monday, but I actually think this version of Samus is the sexiest. Just look at that. Look at that chest plate. Look at those shoulders. I mean, come on. How is that not the most beautiful woman in the universe? I don't know what just came out of your mouth right now. Wait a minute. Do you like shoulder pads? How do you like shoulder pads? Did you notice she can crawl? I've heard that. We need to bring Miiverse back. Miiverse is legendary. Do you know what's wild now? Is it the meme of Metroid can crawl? And also Metroid being Samus? Not really false. Well, they put it in an official game. Didn't they make a joke about how she can crawl or something? They referenced one of the Miiverse memes in an official Nintendo game. I believe they did. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So who do you pick? Zelda or Samus? Samus all the way. Are we doing like a Mary F. Kill situation here? Yes. Oh, boy. Yes. Oh, God. All right. Well, who's the third member? Pete. Yeah. Maybe a third member. Tyra. Mithra. No, just for not Pete's, not Daisy. The other one with Rosalina is it? Rosalina. Rosalina. OK. Rosalina, Zelda, and Samus. And Samus. You got it. I would kill Zelda even though I know that's not kosher here. I mean, it's going to kick. How can we kill any of them? Kill Zelda, make love to Samus and Mary Rosalina. I think that's the way you go. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's about right. I think I'm on my way down too. I mean, look, I would F them all. Well, Eric, you have to cross the wall. We're having one night stand to cross the wall. Let's go. I'd probably kill Rosalina. Is it controversial? She's got all these babies. Look at all the orphans you're going to be making. All the little orphans. I know, but she's so important that she doesn't appear in a ton of Mario games. So I think I can handle just her not existing anymore. It's not going to hurt my life too much. Princess Zelda or Samus not existing anymore. That's tough for me. That's tough for me because they're in every game. Uh, let's see. But then between Zelda, see which version of Zelda are we talking about? There's only one Samus. But which version of Zelda are we talking about? Multiple Zelda's. Tears of the Kingdom. Yeah. Tears of the Kingdom. Tears of the Kingdom. Oh, see, that's tough. All right. I'm going to skip you. I'm going to marry Tears of the Kingdom Zelda. I'm killing Rosalina and I'm having a good night with Samus. Come here. Wow. I already said I killed Rosalina. I think I probably would marry Zelda just because she's not like leaving. She's not like going off in adventures and other lands. Yeah, you're not getting in the way of her. And look, me and Samus are going to f***. It's just, that's just what's going to happen. Well, Samus also, Samus doesn't seem like you make that. That's like my bachelor party night. You know, you could make the argument though. You probably want to kill Samus because she's also a Metroid. Like she's not even human. Like you really want to be involved with that, you know, in a fair way. I trust in her ability to keep it under control. Like, I mean, what if it's just like the Metro? I don't know. I don't know how far we should go with this. Listen, this is just making it better as far as I'm concerned. Let's do this weird space, weird space erotica. Samus, you wouldn't want to marry Samus because she'd be very dead inside. It doesn't seem like she'd have many emotions just being out in space by herself. I thought you were basing it up with other M for a second. Well, you could argue Samus has actually a really good, she's a really good mother figure because she has been very good with animals throughout the series, including Metroids. That is true. Well, the one main Metroid, she kills all the others. Chipchopchop says this is degenerate hour. Hey, this is not even further if Jake was on this. No, it'd be beyond that. This is tame. This part was in honor of Jake. Yes. There you go. There you go. So are you guys, this is another part of that Switch 2 thing, because there was another rumor about Persona 6 coming and that's cool. I'd love to see Persona obviously just be day in, day out on the Switch platform, be sweet. We'll see what happens with that. But what I want to throw out there is the Switch 2 conversation has been going up for a while, right? At least a year and a half, a little bit longer, pretty much just the Nvidia leaks. And it feels like we went from Switch Pro to Switch 2 overnight. So as fellow content creators plus Eric, are you guys sick of talking about Switch 2? Just because Nintendo is not acknowledging anything? Or are you just still as hyped as ever? I'm as hyped as ever. I like talking about it. I don't talk about it as much as I used to, but I'm still as hyped as ever. I would get tired if I would have to find news that doesn't exist, because it's far in between. But I wish I had, I wish there were new things coming up daily, so I could talk about it daily. And I'm still excited about it. You mean like my last five videos? Yeah, that's it. Sorry. I got to stop. I got to stop talking about Switch 2. Andress, what do you think? It's a tough question to answer, because I am a content creator. And I'm like in that weird sort of limbo area where like, can I actually be a full-time content creator? Can I not, right? And it's kind of like, right now, it's like, I can't do this long term as things currently stand because Nintendo is being extremely quiet. Like I would say in terms of the news cycles, this is probably the worst Nintendo has been since the pandemic year. And I almost feel like the pandemic year was better, at least in terms of the conversations that we're going, right? Because we don't even have, for example, at least during the pandemic year, we had like, oh yeah, we got a Zelda game down the road. Like there was still like, we could talk about a Mario game. Like now all we could talk about is Metroid Prime 4, but it's been the same conversation, because everything we know about Metroid Prime 4 is basically everything we knew back in 2017. There's some little things. Officially. Yeah. Officially speaking, yes. You can, there's some little things like oblires and other things, yeah. But the point is there hasn't been anything super substantial updated on Metroid Prime 4 since 2017. And then everything else has already been kind of exhausted. So from like a content creator perspective, you know, this is definitely like a trying time for me. So I'm clearly very biased. Um, but I also do feel that the general masses right now in terms of the Nintendo community are definitely kind of, I don't know if tired, there's definitely some people who are tired to switch to, right? But I think right now, we as a whole, there are the people who just don't care, right? And the people who are like us who are very invested, we're kind of like tired of waiting if that makes any sense. Like I know that once Nintendo starts talking about stuff, my hype levels are going to explode. But I think my hype levels right now are a little below average because, well, I think they've done a bad job of keeping us excited. Now I'm not saying that, you know, that it's, that we should blame them 100% for that. Like as a fact, the matter is there's going to be ups and downs throughout a generation. And this is clearly the down word kind of part of a generation because it's the end, right? But yeah, I don't think Nintendo is really doing a great job of exciting us right now. So, watch, it's not the end. And everyone who said switch would be the only platform for 10 years was right. It's coming out 2027. Hey, if April comes around, there's a big direct and there's a whole bunch of games to talk about. Dude, what I'm doing is the new 3D Mario. It's this year on switch. Oh, well, shit. We ain't getting a new generation platform for a long time. Oh, it's going to be a while. Yeah, 20, 20, what, 20, 30. Yeah, right. They're just skipping. They're going to wait till PS6 comes out and then they're going to drop it. What I'm really doing is actually focusing on this year. Let's say, okay, switch was not out this year, then what else does Nintendo have for this year? And with the, with the, that rumor Nintendo Direct, right? I'm just kind of putting my crazy speculative list out there and trying to wish it into existence to see if Nintendo can hear us. But I mean, if you got to focus on what's in front of you and, you know, if what's in front of me is switch to news, I'm super excited. If it's not, I'll try to get excited for whatever that news is out there. I will say, like, I'm excited for a thousand-year dollar and stuff like that, but it's cool. But also I know what that game is. Like I know what it is. It's exciting to play it again. And that's cool and talk about, you know, if they add any new content or any new changes they do to it. And that's, that's really cool. And revisiting some of my favorite parts of that game and seeing it all re-imagined of new visuals, that's going to be great. But also it's a known quantity. And so like I'm excited, not nearly as excited as I am for an actual new big game from Nintendo, where I don't know what's going to actually happen, how the game is going to play out, what the gameplay is really like. And that's what we don't have right now. Unless you want to say it's Endless Ocean. And Endless Ocean looks really good. And the first one was really damn good. And it's made by the same studio again. So that's awesome. I'm sure this is going to be really cool. And they're making it really online-centric as well, which I think that's kind of neat as well. But it's definitely not going to peel into a large audience. So yeah, I would say it's like a niche. It's more of a niche game that most people don't even know what to relax and love ocean animals. And I love ocean animals. I thought I was going to be a marine biologist. Yeah, at one point in my life. So it's a very, it's a chill game. And I'll probably check it out just because I really like the first one. And it's a new game. We haven't had a new Endless Ocean. When did the first one come out? Like 15 years ago or something? Yeah, there's actually two of them on the way. There's Endless Ocean and then Endless Ocean. Blue something. Yeah, yeah. Endless Ocean and Blue Ocean. Blue World or something. Yeah, Blue World makes sense, I think. I'm going to return. I have a question. Yeah, sure. A speculative question. That'd be Blue World. Blue World. Yeah, Blue World. Okay. Eric is on the ball tonight. I just want to point out. Right? Yeah, well, Google. He's the only one of us smart enough to just type it up because he's not talking. Wait, no, wait. He's talking too much. Yeah, right? I'll show you. All right, so what's your Mario Thousand Year Door? Sure. So my speculative question is about Paper Mario Thousand Year Door. Okay. I think Nintendo has listened to us in that that is the best Paper Mario game they've done so far. What if this Paper Mario Thousand Year Door it's the last Paper Mario on Switch and they're also testing the Watch because maybe Switch 2 will have another Paper Mario but it's going to be bigger, grander, but they're going to basically take everything that's good about Paper Mario Thousand Year Door and use that as moving forward. Because I know a lot of people were upset about the origami game because the battle system is weird, the different changes like little puzzle things that turn around or whatever. But what if this is just, again, Nintendo testing the Waters with this remake to give us the better Paper Mario? See, that's what everyone's been saying since we got Super Mario RPG and this one. Yeah. I think Nintendo was a good morer in that direction again. I don't know. I guess my question is how often does Nintendo use remakes to test the Waters? Oh, I think they're using Bowser's Fury to test the Water. Well, I mean, but that's a new, it's almost like a new side. It was also added to 2R. But it was also in 3D World, right? So how much of a test is it? Because what if people just don't buy it because of 3D World? Like, I don't know. I'm not saying you're wrong. Well, okay, actually, hold on. Let me. You are wrong. No, no, no, no, no. I just think there's two ways of looking at it. Hold on. So I think there's a way of looking at it from, okay, were they looking at sales as a way to test it or do you more so mean like the developers were just working on it and testing ideas? Because, for example, we know that with Winimaker HD, that was a testing ground for Breath of the Wild because they were using that to kind of work on the tech, the lighting engine, that's a little bit of homework going into Breath of the Wild development. So there's that, but that it's a testing ground in terms of them working with ideas and equating themselves with hardware. So then from that perspective, it wouldn't apply to 1,000 year door for Switch because we're talking about the future on Switch too, right? So what you're getting at is, are they using as a test, testing the water scenario for sales, like to see if it's going to like outdo Origami King? I don't know. No, not in sales. And see, I think more in audience reactions to see how they adapt to 1,000 year door because we have a new audience now, right? I didn't play 1,000 year door when it came out. Was it on GameCube? GameCube, was it? GameCube? Yeah. Yeah, it's GameCube. Yeah, I didn't play it back then. I think I was stuck on Mario Sunshine, Monkey Ball, people Mario Party. You stuck in Monkey Ball already. There were like certain games that were stuck on, even Mario wasn't really one of them. I think it was still new back then, right? Even Mario? Because before Mario, there was Mario RPG. And so I was like, wait, is this as equal to Mario RPG? Because they are. They are, right? Yeah. Paper Mario, I think its code name was Mario RPG 2. Okay, yeah. It makes sense, because that's how I saw it back then when it came out. Like, that looked like Paper Mario, Mario RPG. But that's what I mean. Like, you know, this is a brand new generation, 100, 150 million users. This is the best time to test it. You know what I mean? Best time to release it. See how this switch audience, like Josh was saying, this is a brand new audience, new mentality, new people, new mindset. And so maybe this is the time to test, you know, to use us at the end of the switch cycle as testers for what they have planned moving forward. I think that with the thousand-year door, the reason that exists for the switch, like the remake, if I had to guess, I would say it's probably, number one, Nintendo was definitely aware that fans wanted to see that remade because there was this huge petition online a couple years ago. It was kind of Arlo kicked it off and everybody's talking about it, Twitter, it started trending and stuff. I think they took notice on that. And also at the end of a console generation, Nintendo does like to bring in old games and remake them because it's easier to do. So that kind of, that probably connected to them like, hey, they wanted to see thousand-year door, we're doing remakes now. Yeah. Intelligent systems is probably available to do it as well because they don't have anything huge in the pipeline. So I think it's probably just a number of things making sense to them, and that's why they did it. I do, so even though I don't know if they're like purposely testing any waters, I think that it could influence the developer to maybe make the next Paper Mario game more like the thousand-year door if they hear so many people saying, hey, this is what we really like, go in this direction. So I think that it could end up influencing the next one. Whether or not they're releasing it specifically to test those waters, I don't know because they already know that we want that with the huge petition and they could look at the reaction videos of people crying. I've seen people crying when that got announced. And so, yeah, I think they know the love is there for the original Paper Mario format. Yeah, yeah. Like when my worker showed up on this, what's Mandalorian? I mean, put it this way, right? So let's say they have zero intent to follow that formula and they're already a worker in the next Paper Mario and it's going in a different direction, right? They're using real paper this time. Can you imagine? Well, let's just say a thousand-year door comes out and sells 15 million copies, which it won't, but hypothetically speaking, let's say it does. Nintendo will be like, well, we have no choice but to eventually go back to this direction. Yeah. You know, if a thousand-year door sells 15 million, every other Paper Mario sells like four, then that sends a message. But of course, 15 million is, that's just an example. It's probably not going to sell that much. I think you guys are actually taking my point and restructuring it to make it make sense, because that's what I was actually... Well, that's what we do because we're evil. Yeah. Yeah, because that's... I almost said I looked evil earlier in the chat. I was like, maybe, could this game be influenced to the next one? And then, yeah. So that's basically what the question was. Because it was a fan favorite, could this game influence the next one? And you guys kind of mentioned that, yeah, it could be the influence for the next one being on how that... Nintendo's teams are very famous for not paying attention to things that they should, though. They are very much like, you know what, we're just going to do what feels right for each thing and look at each thing separately. They're also always wanting to do something totally different. So I do think the next Paper Mario will have a lot of weird different things, but they might take some things and put them into that format life. Including... Hey, yeah, you have partners again. There's little goombas with hair or something now, and he's your partner, and there's a bunch of them. So that's kind of what I mostly want them to put back in, you know? And maybe do something better with the battle system, but I think it'll be something new, but potentially something that will please people, like, you know, of the classic games. I'm just excited to have Thousand-Year Door right now. I'm so excited about that. I'm excited because I didn't play my first time playing it, and I'm glad I don't switch. Just like, I have the Wii U. I bought when the Wii U shop was closing. I'm like, okay, right away. I went and bought my princess, and I bought my princess and the Wii Waker. And I have them there, and I'm like, I don't want to play them there. I want them on Switch. I was so waiting for that, you know? If I have to go back, I'll go back, but... Listen, you better power on your Wii U because there's that whole problem where if you don't power it on after so long, it just completely bricks. Oh, no, I do power it on. I have games out there that I put in that place. Yeah. I will power mine on like once a month, at least, just to make sure that it's not, you know? I just don't like playing on that big pad. I'm more of a, you know, like a... Yeah, my gamepad has to be tethered because the battery's been shot for like years. I have to replace the battery. Remember the little dock that they had for the gamepad to charge? But this is my... Yeah, yeah, I have it somewhere. Yeah. That's my... This is the control I play on. Um... Stay. Okay. Not bad. Cool. Yeah, I know. You keep pushing that thing every chance you get because they were super cheap to get for a while. Yeah, but wait, is it expensive now? Yeah, the price has gone up a bit more. They're not as freely available. They start with production. I got about five of them. I'm going to sell it then. Um, no, they're just so comfortable, man. They're the most comfortable for me. Oh, I see. You're a scalper. You're the reason. I'm not. It's a good thing you brought. Yeah, you're scalping the hell out of it, man. Yeah, I thought I saw a bunch of... Why do you need five of those things? I don't know. This is because I lose one. I thought I saw a big stack of NES mini systems in the corner there. He's waiting for the right price peak to drop those bad boys. I mean, you know what? No, I know it's a joke, but in all seriousness, people, if you have a switch right now, buy a switch, keep it in the box and leave it there for a couple of years. Once internal stuff stops making them, they're going to go up in price, then you can sell it. A couple years, like a decade. And then you'll make big bank. You'll make over a grand easy. Yeah, because... A sealed switch. Exactly, yeah. And I think that the Nintendo Switch console itself could be like a really good emulation machine later on. Once the eShops and stuff closed down, then there's like really, really kind of much with it. They can become really good emulation machines. By the way, we... This is not investment advice. I just want to clarify. We do not provide investment advice here. Yes, it is. It is. Go buy a new copy. Mike, we're going to have to start making everyone sign contracts that say I cannot be held responsible for anything you say on my show. This is financial advice brought to you by Mike Odyssey, not Nintendo Prime. There you go. And he'll give it to you for free over on X and Instagram as well, Mike Odyssey YT. Yeah, actually, let me go ahead. Let me go out and do that right now. I'm sorry, I forgot. Don't call it. That'd be it. So speaking of thinking about the future in retro, well, let's go to the retro of yesteryear. And that is the N64, because this is the 64th episode of season two. So why not go back in the day to the N64? It's also on NSO. When I say it's also technically the system. Isn't it just handful of the games are anyways? More than a handful. I should have put quite a few N64 games up on there. So I think we should just talk about the N64. And I think we can start by going over, what are some of our favorite games for that system and why? Because I mean, it's such a classic platform. And this is right up Eric's alley. But I'll give him a moment because he's doing a little research right now. I'll probably see what exactly is on NSO, because I don't know if he's checked out, which ones are on NSO versus, he knows what games he likes, of course. So let's go with Mike Odyssey, since he's interrupting me. What's some of your favorite N64 games? Before I do it before I have some tragic news to share with you guys before I get a band. No, no, I ran out of pepper. Oh, no. Is that your last one? Not in the whole hop? I ran out of a ****. Hold on, wait a second. I got a set of water, they brought me a water loo sparkling drink like a... Oh, I thought for a second it said Wonka. I'm like, wait a second. Did you like... I've never heard of water loo, that sounds... Then no Wonka made a drink. Water loo is like La Croix. But a little better, I would say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to get rid of soda, and yeah. Going with the Zambia. This is like cola, but not bad for you. I would drink Coca-Cola nonstop if I could, but you can't. All right, so the N64 game, I want to first thing, say one thing. And you can laugh if you want to. I never played The Legend of Zelda, Majora's Mask, because I was scared at the moon. Okay. Scared of the moon? You're at that creepy face moon thing. All right, I'll admit, I'll admit, I chuckled a little bit, but that's fine. The moon is scary in that game, though. It is scary. How over you when that game came out, Mike? It was 2000. Yeah, that's why I'm laughing a little. I mean, we have a lot scarier things going on in the world like that. I was nine. Well, I was 14, and I still wasn't scared of the moon, but... Yeah, I just didn't like to leave that. Though the laugh was a little creepy. The laugh? Well, I just saw the moon. I didn't see the laugh or anything if it's creepy and creepier. But I spent a long time on Banjo-Kazooie, Mario 64. Mario Kart 64, of course, the best ever in the world history. GoldenEye. In world history. GoldenEye was also awesome, too. Perfect dark. But why? So you give them a list, but what about those games? Make them your favorites. What about them? We can all just like rattle off a list of games. Why? Why? Why did I like them? Yeah. Because I like them. It does save favorite games for the system, and why? Oh, okay. Let's go ahead and remind you. Remember the fairies. Let's rewind a little bit. Because I could literally just go read a list of 20 games ago. Yup. That's my favorites. Have a good day. Mario 64, because first thing was, it was the first to be Mario. When Mario had a voice. It's a mean Mario. That was like the best thing. I love starting the game and just spending hours pulling Mario's nose and trying to just like, you know, kind of like, like mess with his face at the beginning. I thought it was good. I thought it was because you could drop penguins off the cliff. I thought that was good, too. I mean, I was good for that, right? I dropped every single penguin off the game. Whenever I got to start, you know, you know, I went back in there and just dropped penguins off the cliff and stuff like that. That was just fun, man. I don't know how many people see this. It's dark. It's fun. That's how you were making up for being scared of the moon. I gotta do something freaky, that moon, man. That messed me up. Yes. I'm golden. I like Perfect Dark because it was a shooter, right? It's like a shooter thing. Yeah, it's a shooter game. Yeah. Yeah, I like shooter games. And I like kind of games that have a lot of story. You know, like Battlefield and, you know, things like that. So that's why I like... You got to settle the debate right now. It's just not going to settle anything. What one was better? Perfect Dark or GoldenEye? I'm going to go with GoldenEye just because I love 007. I like Perfect Dark more. Yeah. It's an age-old debate from back then. Lots of playground debates over which one of those two games were better. To be honest, you know, but to be honest, GoldenEye is the most... Both great, by the way. Yeah, it's the most recognizable, you know, IP, GoldenEye, so, you know. And it comes to movies and games, video games. I play the game because I like the movie. With Sean Connery as well. A lot of people checked it out. Yeah. First GoldenEye, Sean Connery. You know, that's how old I am. I'm playing Wave Race right now. Wave Race. I really can't go over every game and give you an expression of why. It's okay, just like pick two of them. Like pick like maybe two more games. Okay, Tony Hopperos skater. Loved it on PlayStation 2, on PlayStation 2. I played the Tony Hopperos skater 3 on 64. I like making my own skate parks and just kind of... My own skate parks, you see, because you used to consist just of the U-shape. Because I just go down and do tricks and just go by deck, deck, deck. And U-shape, that's it. And try to get a high score like that. What else? Whatever game? Um, was Cruising USA on 64? Oh, yeah. Yes, it was. Cruising USA, baby. Listen, listen. I was hooked on that game on Arcade. I love Cruising. Select your character. You know, so when I played that on 64, I just went nuts. So that was one of the, you know... I'm trying to mention games that are not really obvious. Like Mario 64 and Zelda and stuff like that. But yeah. Yeah, you mentioned Mario 64. That's okay. That's all right. No, that's good. That's good. That's a nice solid list there, man. Dude, N64 is such a great platform. Eric. Now, I happen to know probably all of your favorite games on 64. But does everybody else know and why? Because every time we talk about, oh, what game should come back here? Always saying Snowboard Kids. I mean, yes. And Conker and Snow. What are some of your favorite N64 games, but why? If you don't want to repeat, like, I know Mario 64 is one of your all-time games. Mario 64 is one of my old games. For the debate of Perfect Dark versus GoldenEye, I played a whole hell of a lot more of GoldenEye. But Perfect Dark had bots. And you could actually go against the computer and play multiplayer by yourself. And that was freaking awesome. Back then, that was a big deal. Yeah, that was one thing I really wish that GoldenEye had. If GoldenEye had that, that would have, I mean, it would have kicked the, you know, wipe the floor. It wouldn't have even been a discussion. But yeah, so, man, I mean, those are my main go ones. I mean, there's always Pokemon Snap. That was a lot of fun. Oh, so good. Pokemon Snap was great. God, that was back when I actually liked Pokemon. Yeah, that was back when Pokemon was a big part of our lives. So, you know, being able to, like, float around in this world and, you know, on this, like, tram type thing and try to capture Pokemon pictures, it was, like, the greatest thing ever. And it felt so realistic back then. Right. Graphics will never be better than this. Yeah, right. Oh, gosh. I'm just trying to think of other things and just not repeating what I've said in the past, because this is my house of. Yeah, so it should be that hard. Wheelhouse. Oh, God. One that I really want to see come back is NFL Blitz. Because, and the 64 version, not the Xbox version, because, I mean, Well, in the 64 version, basically the arcade version. Yes, it is. Yeah, yeah. The Xbox version was the, like, realistic players with the. Yeah, that was fun, but. I know I like the story progression in the Xbox one, but it just, there wasn't enough of it. They needed about twice as much. I think that was one of the first games to actually have a physics engine for football. And it would show the actual injuries, like, can you break a kneecap? It would show the kneecap literally breaking with the ball and everything. Maybe a meld of both of them. Maybe a meld of both of them. Um, you know what? You know what? You know what the Xbox one reminds me of? Yeah. That movie, Any Given Sunday. Yeah. Anyways, just trying to galley. Man, Eric's drawing blanks. No, that's unusual. No, no, no. I'm just don't want to. You shoot blanks off him, buddy. Because I played a heart of, like, a small number of games. He's not perfect. I'm sorry. Absolute butt ton. So, I mean, the Star Wars or the South Park game was actually pretty fun. There was a couple. Oh, that was the old school ones. Yeah. Yeah. There's some good Star Wars games on there. Yeah. Um, it's freaking throwing snowballs at the turkey. The South Park game. That was freaking awesome. Um, yeah, I mean, just, I mean, just playing with family and playing with friends. That was kind of my wheelhouse of what I owned. And that's why I love these games. Every game he had, I swear, was multiplayer. I don't even know if he, besides Mario 64, he even had a same player. I mean, we used to play a quarterback club in 98, 99. Yeah. So, I had 98. You had 99. Yep. On 99, they had the Red Fire Blitz. Yes. The Bret, yep. Run with your quarterback to the right. Any guy that comes attacking you, just turn your left shoulder to him, and it's a break tackle every time. Hell yeah. 99 yard touchdown runs, baby. No. It's the dumbest bug in the game. Yeah. No, actually, there's pretty, there's some other really dumb bugs up there. But yeah. Back then, you couldn't update the game to fix them. No, they're there forever. Yeah. And then I know one other one that we played a lot of was like Fox College basketball. Yeah, what a weird one. Yeah. What a weird game. I don't know. It wasn't even a good game. The absolute living hell out of it. It wasn't even a good game. You don't be Milwaukee and just try to take them to the finals just because. Wasn't even a good game. Yeah. And I'll just let you throw it. I'm going to let you throw it out there just because the more times this game comes up, the more times. Yes. Yes. I want that game to come back. That is 100,000 percent I want. Snowboard kids for life. Come on. One or two. I don't care. Give me a combo pack and a third one. There we go. Who's that? Who's the developer? Atlas? Is that Atlas? Yes, it was Atlas. So they're still around. They could definitely do this. Yeah, exactly. Now's the time for remakes and remasters, Atlas. I think the first one for sure was Atlas. I'm not sure if the second one was or not. Yeah, I don't know. I'll have to top my head. Snowboard kids. Do we not claim the DS one? We don't. We pretend that one doesn't exist. That was this style was way different. And that was a bastardized version of the game. Snowboard kids, too, was Racine, R-A-C-J-N. Oh, no. Publisher was Atlas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, Atlas. Bring them back, baby. Let's go. We're ready and drop some bonus content. Let's do it. I'm amazed those aren't on the Switch Online app. Yeah. It seems like they would be on there. Yeah, they're still not. They would be breaking. Nintendo and Atlas being so chummy. I just don't get it. Yeah. But. Yeah, it's weird. Dude, I remember when Wave Race came out. I was playing Wave Race right now, baby. I was like, my God, it looks so realistic. The sound there, the water is just like, go. Wave Race 64 was the bomb, man. I still love the Game Boy one. But I got addicted to it on the Game Boy, and then I put the N64 one. I'm like, dude, this is so good. What is happening? Why is it like the bomb, man? Yeah, so that's, I mean, without trying to repeat myself from past episodes. That's episode, you're fine. Something like that. Yeah, those. I just wanted you to get that snow coat. So yeah, anytime we can bring up snow. I need to bring that up. I will bring that up. In case someone on Nintendo is listening, get on the phone, please. Yes, let's make this happen. Is Mario tennis on MSO? Yeah, that is, yeah. Yeah, that one is. That one is. Yeah, go check it out. Yeah. Josh, what are some of your favorites? What have we got going? Well, I'm going to go with one we've already been saying, but Wave Race is definitely one that stands out for me. Even to this day, like Anders said, it still looks good. I look at Wave Race and I'm like, you know what? Yes, it's a Nintendo 64 game, but there's just something about the use of color and the designs of the wetsuits are still cool and stuff. And the water, I play that now. Yeah, I look at the water now and I'm like, how did they do this on the Nintendo 64? It's really impressive. And then not only does the water like visually cool, but like I hadn't played Wave Race for a long time. And then like three or four years ago, I popped it in after like not playing for 15 years. And I was really surprised by how, because I thought it was going to be like Mario Kart on water. It really isn't. The gameplay is not just a standard racing game. You really do have to care about the physics of the waves. Yeah. So for a Nintendo 64 game, I think that was like a launch game, wasn't it? That was like, Eric, get on that. Okay. Island Wings and Mario 64 were launch titles. So maybe a 97 title. Launch Windows. I don't remember though. But like Google, he'll figure it out. To be so, I think it was early in the console's life. So I feel like to do that so early in the system's life to have this like pretty advanced physics engine. September 27, 1996. Yeah, it was the initial release. It was in the launch early, really, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, I'm really impressed by the physics engine, just so fun to play and, you know, trying to weave in between the buoys and stuff. And that has a lot of like risk and reward going on in the gameplay where it's like, can I get over that sunken ship or something? Like going to go over that area and you got a time and just right with the waves. So, and I'm also obsessed with like the summertime in the ocean. I used to live in Florida and stuff. So it's just, it's such a vibe of wave races, playing it with another friend. I don't think that, is that four player or just two? It's four players. Yeah, four. Yeah. So that's, it's just great. I really love that game. It makes sense as a launch title. Cause you probably want to really push like the four player option cause that was like the big, one of the big 64 gimmicks for people, one console. Yeah. Yeah. It also definitely showed like how powerful the 3D graphics of the N64 were, you know. So that one stands out big time for me. The music is good too. Is that like iconic? Oh good. Yeah. Yeah, that's so good. So yeah, it's such an underappreciated series, I think. You know, everybody talks about like F zero. We need a new F zero. And I agree, but it's like, let's throw Wave Race in there as well. I would say like, there's a lot of racing series Nintendo has, but the two they need to bring back are F zero and Wave Race because they're very unique and super fun. Right. I kind of feel like maybe Nintendo is just like, we got Mario Kart, so we're settled for our racing game. And it's like, no, no, you can do others other than Mario Kart. So Wave Race 64. And of course they made a sequel for the GameCube. And as big of a fan of GameCube as I am, I still think I prefer the N64 game. I like Blue Storm a lot, but the N64 game kind of did some things better. I think the art style, like just the use of color. I even think, even though they're maybe more generic, I think I like the characters and the jet skis more in the N64 game than the GameCube one. I do love both those games. Another one that might help it a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think they got like name brands in the N64 one, like Kawasaki. Kawasaki. Yeah. I don't know if the wetsuits are name brand, but I can't tell. There's a logo, but it's too blurry to read. It's funny when they brought that to like the Wii, I think it's the Wii Virtual Console. They like put Wii signs in the banners on the side and stuff. I think there might even be Wii U signs or something. But another one that I have to mention, because I want to be a Pokemon fan, but it's never sucked me in. Even as a kid in the 90s, it never got me. But Pokemon Snap, man, Pokemon Snap is pretty amazing. Because it gives me, it gives you like the opportunity to engage in the fandom of Pokemon, but in like this totally different way to where if you're not clicking with like the battling and stuff, the turn-based battling, it's just you get to see all these Pokemon and collect photos of them. Felt like a theme park ride, which is something I'm really into. Like I love theme parks. I love Universal Epic Universe opening next summer in Florida. I'm so excited about it. So we need a Pokemon Snap theme park ride at Universal. By the way, Nate, you like rumors for the gaming thing? I'm going to give you guys a little rumor here. There may or may not be a Pokemon ride being built in Japan right now, where the Spider-Man ride used to be. And I can confirm that there is one that is replacing the Simpsons right here in Orlando. Yeah, I was just going to say Simpsons is on its way out in like two more years or so. And they're tearing it all down because the building is very old. That's where back to the future used to be and it's losing its stability. So they're going to be making like a whole Pokemon area there in like three, four years in Orlando. So crazy. You heard it here first. Yes. A Snap. A Snap. Nintendo pride needs to happen. I remember hearing something about a Zelda ride and a Pokemon ride. Zelda is Islands of Adventure. Lands of Hyrule, which is replacing the Lost Continent in Universal Studios here. They already built down Lost Continent. So the construction already started. They had their type lip. But who did they spot here in my backyard? Where were we at? Like those constructed hats. Two very important people. No, yeah. Mystery immortal and Aonuma. Aonuma. And Aonuma. They're both. Yeah, there's no way Aonuma would be there if it wasn't Zelda really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Zelda's going at Islands of Adventure, not at Epic Universe. But still it's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why can't it all be in the same place? It's Universal. Universal's banking like crazy. It's banking like crazy. They got Mario, Donkey Kong is opening. Luigi's Mansion is also rumored to do that. There's going to be a time that Universal Park is literally like 75% in time. Yeah. I mean, they lost all Marvel IPs, which was 75% Marvel IPs, right? But so they're replacing it. And they lost the Simpsons. The Simpsons is not Disney property. So that's why they're kind of getting rid of them. Harry Potter though, right? Yeah. The Harry Potter. No, they're making Harry Potter bigger. And Epic Universe. They still have Harry Potter stuff there. They got Diagon Alley and all that stuff. They still got stuff going with that. Best of the series is still popular and they're still working down, like trying to get more movies and stuff. They have the author writing new stuff. So... There's a movie coming with all of the original cast. Yeah, they're supposed to be... Yeah, happening, you know, the years later. Yeah. Supposed... And that one's going to do like big numbers for the first movie. All the other ones haven't really felt like Harry Potter to me. Yeah. I like Francesco's because it's a prequel. And it was really cool. Yeah, I thought it was okay. Yeah. And the funny thing is, I think Hogwarts Legacy is even better than all the fantastic piece movies so far. The story is something tells it. It takes place even before all of that. But it makes sense and it lines up. And it actually... I'm like, this is the good story so far. But like, it'll be huge when they do the... In the future, kind of like they did with Star Wars. In the future with some original cast. The first one's going to be huge and they just better hope they nail it because that's what's going to give people to keep watching after. They screw up that first one. Because all the Harry Potter movie fans will give that first one when... What? Hermione and Ron and Harry? They're all back? And then if it sucks, well then... All right. Well, no one... Have you guys been to the Harry Potter and New York Studios? I have not. I mean, the train ride itself, just by itself, is incredible. Is it? I've always wanted to go on it. You get on the train, right? And of course, you see Universal leaving, but all of a sudden, the walls change and you're in Harry Potterland or whatever, right? And you see these... What do you call them? The ghosts or whatever? The mentors? The mentors, yeah. The mentors? It feels so real, man. They feel it with... Man, you have to experience it. ChipChopChop is trying to troll me in the chat. He's saying, when's the Jaws ride coming back? Listen, too soon, ChipChopChop. They had to call it Jaws for more Harry Potter. I'm still not okay with that. And I never... I've actually never been to a Universal park ever. Will you go when Epic Universe opens at any point or is that a thing you're... It is a desire to want to go, yes. I think the first time I go, I won't bring the kids. It's really expensive to bring the kids all across the country to go. But I think there's something when it opens up that maybe like me, Eric, maybe a couple of you guys get together and we just all go for a weekend or something. That'd be fun. That'd be awesome. I got people. Maybe Yulia wants to come with, I have no idea. And whenever that is, I got friends who work at Universal Studios so they can help me out with some tickets. Living in Florida or living in Hollywood? Yeah, do we know anyone that's like friends with Delta or some airline that goes up as well? Let's just get the whole trip worked. Taking sponsors right now. I remember one time I got a part-time at Disney just because when you work at Disney, you get tickets and your whole family goes. So I just had that part-time job just for that. Well, you worked at Disney? Yeah, I worked at Disney, yeah. Like Magic Kingdom or Epcot or...? I was a magic photographer or photo pass, whatever. And so I worked at Magic Kingdom. So did I? Yeah. This was 20. What year? 2012 and 2013, so it was a while ago. No, so I was closer to 2015 around there. Okay, so you came after me, yeah. Yeah. I worked in character performing and it was really fun at first and amazing. And then when I was done by the end of the second year, I was like, all right, I'm done. I did this. I auditioned for a lot of what I would have. Did you play a character? Have you heard of a gentleman called Peter Pan? Who's that? That totally was you, wasn't it? I know that dude. I knew that. Oh, you knew him, huh? Are you Tinkerbell? I almost dated Tinkerbell. I dated Belle, but not Tinkerbell. Okay. Yeah. My entire family, I still have a family who works... I think I work at Disney somewhere, you know, friends. So it's not... When you're here, it's not easy. It's not hard to get in 15 parts because you know somebody who knows somebody. Okay, so I got... I mean, I have the hookups. I just got to fly down and sleep on the ground in a box. In the Florida humidity. Yeah. Yeah, that wouldn't be good. If I go to the wrong part of Gator might get me. Look out. When is like the best time in Florida? Because it's like still summer, but comfortable summer. It's like, you don't know what was going to come up that day. Is it going to be 30? Is it going to be 80? You don't know. Just have your jacket and have your shorts. I mean, a cold day here is still warm, so... Yeah, I don't like it. For instance, I lived up in New York and I fell 15 below in this little puddle of water to my waist in ice water. Very next day, I was in Florida and never looked back. Wow. And I'm like, you know what? No, no, no cold. Interesting. No, it's too cold. 60, too cold. Yeah, all my friends in Florida, because I grew up in Illinois. I live in Illinois now, but when I lived in Florida, it would be like 70 degrees. And they'd be like, oh my God, I can't go outside today. I need to get my jacket. Yeah, like my girlfriend was always like, I need two jackets on. I'm like, what? It's like summer. I'm going to go, I'm going to go sun tanning. I'm going to go take a swim. I grew up in Miami. I'm still in Miami now. I've left in my 20s, but I came back. I don't believe in that. I don't understand why people are like that. It's like, listen, bro, we're in worse shorts. It's Miami. No, I don't have a lot of opportunity to wear. And those people came to my house. We keep my house at 66. They'd be like, why is it winter in your house? No, no, it's not winter. I went to a Nintendo Wii U private press event in Miami. That was my first time being in Miami. It was like a four-hour drive to get down there. Wow. It was pretty amazing. It's definitely a lot different than Orlando. Miami is a different vibe than Orlando. Driving is nuts. Driving is nuts. It reminded me of like Chicago driving around in Miami where it's like crazy traffic and everything. Maybe we're just by like the downtown area, you know. I think we're right next to the beach where this was. It was not like a club. They like rented out a club for the Wii U. Was it an island with the South Beach or is it just like? Oh, God, it was. I can't remember exactly when would. I'd say that the double three by the airport. Miami. So I can't remember the exact location. I mean, they're all within like 10-ish minutes of each other. So yeah, it was like behind the building. It was like right by the beach area. So I don't know where that would be. I think it was like it was our convention. You said it was with that. It was in a club. Yeah, they like rented out a club. It was really fancy. I felt way more important than I should have been. I was like, oh, God, I'm a complete drive by my hand. Appropriately to be at this place. Hey, yeah. Well, they also they like Nintendo paid for like your car to be valet or whatever, like the park and everything. Oh, they were really treating. They were really treating. They didn't know the Wii U was going to be a failure yet. Otherwise, they would have told me. They were actually going to be the cream of the crop. They were going to save their money. It was so funny because they had Pikmin 3 there and I was like starstruck just from seeing Pikmin 3 on a screen in front of me. I was like shaking with the gamepad playing and stuff. Yeah, I still have a Wii. I have a Wii U cookie that is in that lasted longer than the Wii U from that event. I have I have a Wii U bottle of water that was from the Miami event. It was like sucking into itself from the water. Nice. But Pokemon Snap on the Nintendo. That was a hell of a hell of a welcome to the Nintendo Prime podcast. I'm waiting for it for Pokemon VR on Switch 2. Listen, new Pokemon Snap. Yeah, new Pokemon Snap on the Switch. I think that was honestly better than the original. I love that. It's really good. And then when you beat it and then the extra pass up and you're just like, yeah, a lot of replay. Dude, you like double the game. This is sick. Can you play DLC? No, they didn't have VR as an update for that. I'm actually shocked they didn't. They didn't because we have that Labo VR. That's the game that made the most sense of use of it. I think it's probably because the game wouldn't be able to run, would be my guess. Yeah, because isn't the movement slow? Like you can't just like zoom around the camera, right? But if you have VR, you have free access. They really went all out with the visual band and Ant-Quad did a good job. So that VR thing you guys mentioned, I remember in Mario Odyssey, it's just this thing where you just can't even move. Like the camera is locked, right? And you just put the goggles on. You can like look around and it's still seen. Am I right on that or am I misrepresenting it? I didn't try it out. I didn't try it in Odyssey. I tried it in Breath of the Wild. You could literally play the whole game with it. Really? Oh, okay. But I'm not saying it's enjoyable. Okay. But you can do it. Is it like on Nintendo? And I kept thinking, Nintendo, why are you allowing this but you never sold an official strap? How are you so they expect you to do this the whole time? Oh God. Okay. It's like, no, I'm not going to play Breath of the Wild that way. I'm sorry. Is the resolution like Nintendo 64 resolution? It ain't good. It ain't good. Okay. Yeah. So that explains why Pokemon Snap doesn't have that, probably. Yeah, they want to maintain the integrity of the visuals. One more, I will say, for my Nintendo 64 games is Diddy Kong Racing. I'm very sad. We're probably never going to get a new Diddy Kong Racing because of the rare. Maybe we can, though, because with Rare and Microsoft being kind of friendly, who knows? They keep putting rare games on in the show. That's not Nintendo. You need to get on the phone with Phil Spencer. I'll say this. I think I wouldn't be surprised if the, supposedly there's a Banjo-Kazooie project in the works. I wouldn't be surprised if that comes out pretty early on for Switch 2. I don't know if it'll be a day in date, but the better selling version is going to be on Switch 2. Yeah, that's where a lot of the audience- Microsoft likes money. Oh, to where the audience for that game is. Right, yeah. But yeah, that was so cool because I, of course, I, of course, loved Mario Kart 64. And Diddy Kong Racing was like Mario Kart 64, but so much more. You had this story element. You drove around in open world setting, which that hasn't even really been done to this day. I can't think of any other racing game that had that. The characters are a little generic looking back at them. I don't know if anybody's thinking about Drumstick, the Rooster or whatever he was anymore, the Yellow Mouse or anything, but back in those days, it was like, sure. Yeah, that was great back then. Right, yeah. Conquer, we didn't know, would become a psychopath eventually. That's a bit of a question to chat. That's wild. Yeah. In Diddy Kong Racing, he's like, let's go racing! Yay! And then he's the following game. Then he's a drunk. Yeah, he's like a crazy person. In the morning, he's bright and cheery, but at night, he's... One of those, I kind of think his appearance in that game was just like, dude, Conquer also does drugs and they couldn't show us that yet. And that was him on drugs in that game. And this was him now chilled out in the afterlife from the drugs. His world's wrecked and he's getting drunk. Percent chance it comes down to so. Conquer's bad for a day. 50, I think I'd say 50%. I think it's like an 80% chance. Really on switch two, it won't be on the normal switch. They've already crossed the barrier of putting M-rated games on. So they're clearly willing to do it. And it is a beloved game by a lot of different people. So I think it's one of those, they'll wait for early years of switch two. Early years before they started advertising the families. It could still be a switch one game. I mean, it's kind of sour. It could still put it on their theoretically. I kind of think we're going to get to a point when they, at some point in switch two, where it's kind of like a hard cutoff where we stop releasing the new NSO games on the old platform to kind of encourage people to head on over. Well, what's the percent chance for Diddy Kong Racing? Because that's what we were supposed to be talking about. Diddy Kong Racing, I think that should be significantly higher. Is that like, is that 90%? I'd give that a 70%. I think that could come out this year. Once they, I think that's an announcement that comes out. I think it's an announcement that comes along with like when they announce the new Donkey Kong or whatever. Like, hey, here's like, what are they doing? They still haven't added Donkey Kong 64 either. Like, I feel like they should add Diddy Kong Racing. I think that literally a whole batch of Donkey Kong games just drop, you know. A barrel of them. What do you mean a batch of them? A barrel of Donkey Kong. A barrel of them. My bad, my bad. Sorry. Am I the only one here that actually does not like Donkey Kong 64? Am I alone? I don't like it. No, you're not alone. No, you're not alone. I don't like it. I think I'm a little younger than you guys. I want them to attempt another one. I think today they could do a much better job. But I think it was like really experimental back then and they just didn't quite have it down. They were on the right path. There's some good ideas in it, but. I love Donkey Kong 64, but I was also a child. Which didn't have, you know, when you're a child. You can't really tell like what's bad and what's good. Like, I don't know. E.T. was still pretty bad to me. Listen, I remember Superman 64. I was like, oh, this is an interesting game. Superman 64 was the worst game ever. I remember 80. Oh my God, I fly through these damn loops. What is going on? I'm trying to turn around. The game won't let me turn. Superman was awesome. You know, I got mad at Superman. I throw the cartridge against the wall and it broke. And I was like, well, not returning that one to Best Buy. Oh, and very, very quickly. I'll just throw this out there. Because to this day, I still love the series. Mario Party, I was so and still am so. I was just recently playing this. Mario Party on the N64. I don't know. Like for me, I have something about like wanting to collect a lot of things in real life or whatever or whatever it might be. I have like 300 pairs of shoes. So I'm into collecting things. And so Mario Party kind of had that vibe of like this big collection of minigames. And I remember having like Nintendo Power back in the day and they had like many pages dedicated to just showing the minigames and like Mario Party 2. And yeah, so like Mario Party on the. Also like Mario Party on the N64 was unique in the sense that you usually didn't see a bunch of sequels to a Mario game like that. We didn't get three Mario cards. We didn't get three Mario Tennis or anything like that. It was such a like open-ended idea, which comes along so rarely to have something. It's like, hey, you know what? We got to keep this going without it seeming bad. And there's been a few speed bumps along the way in the series for sure. Mario Party 9 and 10, Super Mario Party, all the handheld versions except for the DS. But other than that, other than those, it's been good. So yeah, Mario Party on 64 was huge for me back in the day. I loved it, still do. Awesome. Agreed. All right. Andres, you got any you want to throw in? I could go all night. I'm not gonna because I got a cut off. But this is actually, I'm already at my cut off. That's why I was trying to get to you next so you can get a few more. Finish this segment. So I'll try and focus on games that haven't been mentioned yet. And if I accidentally mentioned something that's already been mentioned, I'm sorry. It happens. We love this console. Yeah. By the way, even though I said I wouldn't focus on things that have already been mentioned, Wave Race is amazing. But F-Zero X is fantastic. F-Zero GX is my favorite racing game ever. But F-Zero X is a really good prior entry. It's super fast. Death Race is really fun. A lot of the mechanics were in terms of 3D work. I mean, obviously there's the initial F-Zero Super Nintendo, but it's such a good game. And then the heavy metal music, it just makes it so badass. It's just such a fun, cool game. But another one I'll mention is Paper Mario. Something I love about the Mario RPG games in general, and this was kind of, for me, was the start. It kind of gives us an avenue to explore the Mushroom Kingdom in a way we can't explore them in the actual 3D Mario games. The 3D Mario games are always sort of limited. Like they don't let you actually kind of explore and see that in between the Mario RPG games, they kind of let you see, oh, there is a Mushroom Kingdom. There are towns where the Toads live. Like I like seeing that stuff and getting involved with the characters in the story. And Paper Mario is the first one to do that. And so I really like that game for, that's a big reason why I'm going to be on that. Let's interrupt you. I'm sorry, I just want to say how ashamed I am of myself and how embarrassed I am that I did not include that. I've been working on a paper Mario Christmas special for like years now. So the fact that I did not mention that is, actually, let me see if I can show this real quick. All right? Oh, wait, are we going to see part of it? Oh, no, what is going on? Oh, oh, wait! Here we go. Holy cow. Dude, ever since he first teased, that's one of the things. You've been teasing that like the Luigi's Mansion one and like I've been drooling for years and then you close the channel and I'm like, no, we're never going to see it. So the fact that's, I mean, this whole room actually around me is surrounded by paper Mario sets made in real life. That's like reminiscent of the toy box you might read from the original game. Yeah, so I'm humiliated that I didn't think of paper Mario. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. I'm literally staring at paper Mario everywhere. I didn't mean to humiliate you. Clearly, I'm the villain, so here we go. Yeah, but going beyond paper Mario, you know, another one that kind of, keep in mind, I played N64 as a little kid, right? So everything to me hit me on a different level. Like, you know, I could talk about Majora's Mask offering time for Mario 64. Those are like obvious. Like those games just took me away. But another one that took me away was Yoshi's Story. Like, even though it was a 2D game, it was cool exploring the world as Yoshi. Like for me as a kid, I just saw Yoshi as, okay, I saw him Super Mario World. All right, that's cool, right? But then like Yoshi's at the end of Mario 64, this is a game where you get to play as Yoshi. And like, as a kid, playing that game, that perspective, that atmosphere really drew me in. Another 2D game, even though we're talking about N64, Kirby's Crystal Shards. Love that game. That was my first Kirby game, and it was just so good to, you know, to combine the powers, the music. I was stuck into that one. And then, I'll say Banjo-Kazooie. I mean like Banjo-Kazooie, what's interesting about Banjo-Kazooie, it almost feels, Banjo-Kazooie feel, Mario Odyssey feels almost more like a sequel to Banjo-Kazooie than it does to Mario 64. 100%. Yep, I felt that as well. Yeah. Yeah, it's so good. I mean, you can transform into different characters of the world and how you explore it. It's a good time. And it has so much personality. I feel like that's something that, I mean, obviously we don't really get Rare games anymore, but Rare had so much personality with their games. Like, they put out a lot of games, but I think they really fit with Nintendo, because of just how much, they had their own unique spin, their own quirkiness to them. I don't think anyone baddened an eye when you saw like a Banjo-Kazooie, or maybe we'll conquer a little bit because of like the, you know, it had the darker themes, but they fit Nintendo back then. And it was a good time. You know, it's so funny, because as we're going through these lists and I'm looking at the chat, I'm realizing just how many amazing games there really are on the N64, you know. Nintendo just said Smash Brothers, a few other people said Smash as well. I mean, I think we probably avoid, we did, Nate, did you avoid saying Zelda games just because they were so obvious? I haven't said anything yet. Oh, okay. There we go. We didn't mention the obvious ones, so Nate could take them. Yes. And yet I'm going to go with some that aren't quite as obvious. Great. Okay. I don't know if it's my turn yet. Is it my turn? It's your turn. You're on this. You're on this. You're on this. I'm trying to give you like the bridge version. Shadowgate 64. I don't know how many people played that, but Shadowgate 64 is kind of like an Elder Scrolls kind of game before that series got huge. And it's really good. It's a pretty hardcore game, especially when I was a kid. It was very hardcore, but I really enjoyed it. I think it's probably on some other platforms, but I played it on 64. Maybe it never went anyone else because it was called specifically Shadowgate 64. But very good. I don't even know if we got sequels because I was a kid and I didn't always know if there were sequels to these games back then. That was when I got really into big RPG. And then Rogue Squadron. Throwed another third party one. I don't know. If you guys ever played the original Rogue Squadrons, you know why people were so excited about Rogue Squadron coming back in the more recent iteration from EA that ended up just being okay. Apparently they just released something for it to actually make it good again. I have no idea. I'm not playing the EA one because I have a hard time with most of EA's games these days because I just don't think they care anymore. But I still buy Madden every year, so I guess I'm still a shill in some ways. That's the NFL though. The NFL has me hooked. It's not EA. And so Rogue Squadron though was really awesome and that obviously led into the sequels that we got on GameCube and PS2 and stuff. I also, I mean, to go with a couple obvious ones, I can't let it go without mentioning those other games. I just recently beat Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask on Nintendo Switch Online, which for me, for Majora's Mask in particular, that was my first time beating the game in 20 years. It had been a long time since I've actually even seen the end and going through the moon children and the deep, actually very in-depth words that they say that I never really quite grasped when I was a kid of how in-depth that the in-the-moon segment really is. And dude, it's like a journey through your soul, man. It's like a very soul-searching. I mean, I know about it because I wrote editorials about it when I got older, but I never re-experienced it. I just always went back and watched a YouTube video to get the quotes I needed to actually re-experience it after journey and through the entire game was just when I could actually understand what it was. I'm like, man, I now understand why we had so many Zelda theories built around this stuff because this is like, holy crud. This is very deep for a game that was meant to be played by kids. So I really love the Zelda games. I played it when I was nine. Everyone always gives me flat that Ocarina of Time is down to my top 10 Zelda games, but Ocarina of Time is why I'm here today. When I was a kid, that led me to making a fan website called Zelda Domain, which ultimately led all the way to me being a YouTuber. And that was all the way back in 1998. No, 99 I think is when I opened the website on geocities.com website makers. That's the color guy. He was the color guy. That was back before we had the fancy CSS and PHP. So if you change the color on your layout of something, you got to go to every page on your website and change that color code. Eric would do the tedious work for me because I'm like, dude, I'm literally writing like 100 page walkthroughs. Someone's got to like handle this because I'm going crazy. Anyway, I'm looking through footage of this Shadowgate 64. It's blowing my mind. I was like, this is for N64. Yeah, dude. Crazy. Yeah, dude. It looks kind of like it looks like a like a really dark Elder Scrolls game. Yes. That's what I said. It was like an Elder Scrolls. Yeah, dude. It's really, really good. Like, I feel like something creepies around the corner at any point. I'm kind of there. There is a few points that got me with some of the stuff going on. And it wasn't specifically a horror game, but just the atmosphere. And it's a very good game. Feels like a horror game right here. Yeah, it's a very good game. The whole, the story is pretty dark. So that's why the theme means pretty dark. I can see how slow-paced it is. So I can see how like people could probably be like, yeah, this is too slow-paced for me. I mean, yeah. You got to be into those kind of games. And I'm someone that I grew up playing a game called Zork on PC and Return to Zork. And those are very slow-paced RPG decision-making games that, trust me, I think they're amazing, but other people that have never played those kind of games before will think they suck. It is what it is. You had to grow up in the era of where your RPG used to be a text-based game that would say, do you want to go north to the forest or right to the Well of Mystery? Oh, the Well of Mystery. That sounds good. You went to the Well and Drowned game over. So Zork was like, originally was a text-based game that turned into a visual thing for... Anyways, that's not a side. Other N64 games, look, we briefly touched upon what happened to Conker, but Conker's dad for a day is amazing. That is a Banjo-Kazooie Mario 64-level game for me. The platforming in it's awesome. The storytelling is great. You couldn't believe Nintendo published the game. There's a Nintendo logo on the box, and it seems like the most anti... Look, the platforming, fine. The story, the character, some of the comedy. You're fighting a pile of shit. Like, there's all this going on that you'd be like, Nintendo would never let this happen. Nintendo, I mean, apparently there was some stuff by the seas where Nintendo didn't want the game to happen, but it doesn't really matter. I didn't know that as a kid. I just knew this game kicked ass, and it was awesome. And I even will say single-player wise, after Xbox got it, great job with the remaster in single-player on Xbox. It actually looks pretty damn good, and it plays pretty damn well. But the N64 version has a version of the multiplayer that we've never seen since, and I am stoked about that multiplayer. It is... What is it? It's U vs. the teddy bears, right? Or something like that? Gosh, I haven't played it in so long. Anyways, the multiplayer is amazing. Yeah, the Weasels vs. the teddy bears. Yeah, the Weasels vs. the teddy bears. That's what it was. None of this... What is it? No, Xbox one where you're just pissing on people all the time, or whatever. Or is that in the N64? No, that was the 64. That was the 64. Okay, dude, I get confused. We spent a lot of time playing both, and then we concluded the Xbox multiplayer wasn't quite as good. It's still okay. Yeah, it's not bad. But once you've played the better, you've played the better. I kind of... Anyways, I can go on forever about stories like that. And then maybe one other one... I wanted... There's one other one I wanted to toss out there that wasn't brought up by anyone. Oh, I just had it on my screen, of course. Oh. Some people are saying Turok. Turok is a good one. Yes! Turok was a good one. Oh, I loved it. I'm glad they remastered it on Switch. It was so good. Yeah, Turok was another really great one out there. Maybe it was on this list here that I saw. I'm really surprised... There was Turok, too. Yeah, there was two Turoks. Yep. Just while you're looking for that, I was just going to comment. I'm really surprised that Nintendo allowed Rare to make an animation of Conker chain sawing Nintendo's logo in half. Yes, yes. I feel like they probably wouldn't let somebody do that nowadays because they're very obsessed with like image and brand, so it would kind of be like, no. I kind of think they might not care today. And then actually on top of it, they're in a fun, comedy way. So they're in a fun, comedy way, too. I mean, they let Mario have guns. So like... Well, easier. These kind of futuristic guns. Yeah. Well, sure. But still. So that might be... Mr. Miyamoto liked the rabbits, so I think that's why he was more lenient to let him go with it. He was like a fan of the rabbits beforehand, so I think that was one of the reasons. Okay. Okay. I'm sure I can see that. It's like fighting in the Shadowgate game. Yes. I've been skipping through like this three hour like play through and I just see a couple talking heads in a lot of... Yeah, there's a lot of exploration and a lot of decision making. This is an old school RPG. There is... It's not... There's a lot more fighting in the Elder Scrolls series than this. And there might have been a sequel that I don't know about, but that one, it was very decision oriented and making sure you're choosing to go the right direction. A lot of exploration and a little bit of combat. Yeah. I saw a scene in this game where there was a big sword and it wasn't like that big. It was like actually probably like a normal sword or... Yeah. It just looks big for N64. Yeah. Right. And they were like, oh, this is definitely big for you to use in battle. I'm like, oh, okay. Okay. I guess... Yeah. Yeah, there are battles. Yes. So there are battles. There's two big in battle then, I guess. Yeah, you do use it. One of the first swords you can use is pretty damn small. Do we might call it a dagger? But I mean, I guess the limit's a sword that we could... I don't know. I mean, this is a... The N64 days were a bit wonky. Is there any lore on the character being a dwarf? Because if he's a dwarf, you know a dagger is a sword for him or a hobbit. Oh, geez. Well, I can't find the one I was thinking of. So I just want... I'll just throw a brief shot at Pokemon Stadium. Really loved Pokemon back in the day. Pokemon Stadium and even the same too. Both of them were really, really fun. The minigames are great. And it was the first time back then that you really, truly felt like you were becoming a Pokemon master. And I'm not even sure why. Because in the games, you had to go through and beat the Jams and the Elite Four and all that back then. And okay, I'm kind of doing the same thing again, except now it's in 3D and it feels badass. Even more badass. But I could also do it against my friends in 3D. And yeah, you can do it against your friends and they can bring their Pokemon in for their game and you in for your game and go against each other. And then the minigames. Again, I'm a sucker for minigames. The Marty Party ones. These minigames are amazing. And that's why I kept saying, you know, like if Princess Peachess ends up being like 20 minigames, 20 levels of like just little minigames, like the cake stuff, kick ass dude. Like I'm all for it. That's why I like the WarioWare series. I love the little minigames. I even was a fan back in the day. I mean, this isn't N64. But remember those, those at the Rabbids party game or whatever they had at one point, a Wii or something? Yeah, dude. I don't know. I know they're not great, but the minigames were fun. I love the minigames. The actual core game in between the minigames wasn't too great, but the minigames, that's a good idea. And then the Wii was the master maestro of lots of minigame collectors. And there were definitely a lot of bad ones. The good ones, you know. Anyway, so how did they handle Pokemon Stadium on the Switch online app when it came to playing with other people? Can you just not do it? Or how do you connect? I don't remember. I know you can't transfer any Pokemon in. You're stuck with just the default. Is it just kind of somebody else grabs another controller, I guess, right? They can't like bring their, they can't like bring their Pokemon over to play with you. There's not like a online thing, is there? My Switch is dying me. Oh, that's just wanted to be weird. I can't imagine the Pokemon company would have went to the effort of putting like some extensive online multiplayer thing in that. Oh, no, my switch is broken. I'm just kidding. Um, I don't know. I'm actually going to find out right now. I'm going to load it up. I'm actually very curious. You two are in the same room. I got to work in the same room on the hand of a controller. Let's see what happens. I got my Switch. Yeah, he's got his Switch too. Does it have, does it have online? Let's go. I have no idea. I haven't actually tried it. Is there wireless play or you can? I don't know. I'm going to load up Pokemon City right now. Also, it's like Pokemon City because I forgot it's Blastoise and Charizard on the cover. Yeah. Or like my two favorite Pokemon. Yeah. So like. Tropical Meowth. Tropical Meowth is my favorite Pokemon. What's his name? Tropical Meowth. He looks all sassy. Is that the Aloha one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't remember the name. Yeah. Yeah. He's a more modern one, I think. Yeah, yeah. He looks all like sassy. I'm a fan of his. Overhanging. I totally forgot about that name. Sorry. He's a guy named Overhanging. We used to create and we're getting a college game again. So we create again. We used to create players in the college football game and there would always be Schmitty Overhanging. Oh, you know what? Why? Because of. Bama Hut Castle. Little. Yeah, right there, Castle. Bama Hut in the chat actually brings up a pretty good thing that I don't know why I forgot about this, but he's like talking about playing online Mario Party and you can play the Mario Party games online on the 64 app. So I imagine Pokemon. Pokemon, if it has multiplayer, I'd imagine you can do the same. It'd be very weird if you could. Two player battle. Let's see here. I mean, let me just try now. Well, player one versus player two. Okay, so how does this work? I haven't done anything yet. Okay, I can select my Pokemon. Do I just. I actually never go online with my apps, even though I could. Yeah, I never. I don't. I was playing Mario Party Superstars online for a while, but then I just decided to start playing against the computer because it was easier. I'm pretty sure it's just two players. Let's see here. Let me select my Pokemon. You can't know. You don't look. You can't know what Pokemon I'm selecting. Oh, Nate, we should battle each other. Yeah, I think you'd be able to connect online. Like if Mario Party has it. I just didn't. I don't know if I selected the right one. I don't know which one I'm selecting. I don't know. I don't know which one to be. This feels like I need two N64 controllers right now. This is very hard with Joy-Cons. There are six options. I do not have six buttons. I didn't know what I selected. You didn't know I. Jake. Well, I was sure. Did you know I was sure? It's like Bulbasaur. I have no idea. Well, somebody's getting their first kick. Oh, that would be me probably. Okay. I think I'm Bulbasaur, I think. I don't have an L. Yeah, you do. I have an L right here. Yeah, I had a D. Paperboy 64. Oh, you got to hold it down and then select. Yep. Got it. Yes. Okay. There is local multiplayer confirmed. Confirmed. Local. Yeah. But how about online? I don't know about online. They didn't give me any online option. I don't know what. No, you know why? Because you have to, in the menu of the Switch online app, the 64 online app, you have to go to the online player. I see that now. Yeah, that's what it is. So there you go. You guys can't be playing. Look at that. Those are actually pretty good character models for an N64 game. Yeah, pretty good. Oh, man. Well, I'm going to finish off this battle. I guess, is that going to, is that doing it for this section? I think we're, I think we're good besides the Q&A. There's one, there's one part of the Q&A I definitely want, Josh. I hear there's this question from Nintendo Prime. Okay. I'll wait for this. I'll stay. I'll stick around for this. Just this one particular question. I'm just going to get it out there now because I don't have time crunch over there. What character you haven't cosplayed that you want? Okay. Well, I haven't got the word it weird because I couldn't fit enough characters in the damn thing. Well, you might actually like this answer. I am drawing up. I've started drawing up a pattern to do a lot of recreations of the clothing in Tears of the Kingdom because I will play Zell the Tears of the Kingdom and like for like 30 minutes, I'll just mess around with different like clothing. Get Link's Rizz going. So yeah, I like the, I'm doing this. I think it's called Snowquill, right? The Snowquill stuff. I want to make that in real life. So that would be the answer to that. But yeah, there's so much cool clothing and gear in Tears of the Kingdom. I think it definitely needs to be made in real life. So that's certainly how I want to do it. I mean, I was, listen, I was Peter Pan 10 years ago. Peter Pan is very close to Link. So if I shave, I can kind of maybe get the, get the vibe going there. Definitely do it. I think Link is, Link is definitely inspired by Peter Pan, I think. I think Mr. Miyamoto said that. Yeah. Because like Navi is like Tinkerbell. He's got like the green. It's very obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, definitely going to be doing some Zelda cosplay stuff this year. Yeah. Like I can't choose. I can only choose two attacks. Yeah. The only thing I can choose is the other two. Holding that thing on its side. Only let's you choose one of two. Yeah. I can only choose two and one of mine is disabled because he confused me. Anyways. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. So yeah, Link. I can't get as many cosplays as I'd want to do. I'm not really much of a cosplayer. I know you're not much of them, but like if you, if you had to. You got to go with zero, do a male version of Zero Suit Samus. What is what? Listen, on stream on Monday, people were like, yo, you should wear a Zero Suit Samus while playing Zelda. I'm like, yes. I'm, we're going to get this going. I actually have two latex Zero Suit, like male versions. See, he's got one. He can model. He's already ready to buy one. Are we planning a collab? Is this what's going on? We're doing a Zero Suit collab. Cry Florida. All right. I better start going to Jim more often. Yeah. I want to do a, I want to customize a Zero Suit that actually has like glowing in like the, the symbols in the back like gets out, you know, that would be pretty cool. Some LED stuff going. I think that'd be awesome. You want to also be really neat. If we find like New Lorne Prime 4, we're actually all the Federation Troopers wear something like the Zero Suit under. Yeah. So that was kind of my, my headcanon. Like I wasn't pretending to be Samus when we're in, I was kind of thinking like, it's like a Chozo, right? Isn't that who gave it to her? Like the Chozo symbol, right? They're like birds. They look kind of like birds. The Chozo did give her a power suit, but the Federation have their own, or maybe, I don't, we don't know what they have under their suits, but they do try and emulate Samus a little bit. But also, that's an interesting perspective though, because what if there was a male Yeah. A power suit user, which is kind of Metroid Dread kind of touches on that a little bit, because you know, the final boss has a similar powers to Samus. Okay. I need to play Metroid Dread. I only played the demo. I never actually bought it, but I think I need to do that before a Prime 4. Give it a, give it a chance. Check it out. Oh, it's so good. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. I did, I did, I did, Puerto Rican. Yeah, Puerto Rican, I just catch him one time. It was my first time dressing up as anything. Did you go to a convention, like a PAX or something? Yeah, I just did it from out here. Yeah, like, kind of like up here. Nice. I have cosplayed as Luffy before from One Piece, and that was when I went to Comic Con. I would say you'd be a good Luffy. I tried to do Mario. Yeah, you still have the straw hair. I tried to do Mario. I could do it again. You still have the straw hair. Yeah, nice. Okay, that Mario creeps me out. I think, actually, I had to do a bot and try to erase. One time I was forced to dress up as Luigi. Forced? I was forced. Yes, because, well, I mean, it was at a job I had, and there was a Halloween party, and they were like, you didn't dress up, and I'm like, no, okay, well, here's clothes. You're going to be Luigi. And I'm like, I, it worked. I wore it overalls and green in Manhattan. Kind of worked. Did you do the voice? Did you get into character? A little bit. I can't, I don't know. A little bit. Oh, there you go. Luigi, yeah. That's a very good voice. Yeah, nice. This is my audition. If the new guy is not going to do it anymore, I'm going to jump in. So, you're like, yeah. Um, yeah, that's cosplays. Cosplay, Eric, what would you cosplay as if you had to? Zero suit Samus. We're all doing zero suit Samus. Oh, yeah. All right. We've got a whole squad. I would do, I would do the rock. What, the wane? Not the way the rock jobs are. Like, wait a second. That's not hard to do. Luigi, you should dress up as Kirby. She's in the kingdom, dude. I think we're going to be. Um, what's her name? The Rock from Jesus of the Kingdom? The Rock. Oh, Koran? Koran. Koran. Koran. Yenuvo. Yenuvo. Yenuvo. Yenuvo. Yenuvo. Yenuvo. No, no, yenuvo. Yenuvo, yeah. Or do you want to be Daruk? Or Darunia? You want to be one of the more badass like Korans? I would go for Daruk. Yeah, Daruk is better. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I can't feel the Kirby. I'm already on record. I won on my live streams where Josh was there, that I said zero suit because one of my goals of my weight loss is to actually look good as good as he does wearing zero suits. So there you go. I mean, listen, you can do that. I've done Super Mario. No, Super Mario World. Super Mario World for, uh. So yeah. Oh, you got the cape going there. I see. Okay. Same costume. I don't think you can do any more. And then I actually bought a bootleg Super Mario mascot costume. Okay. See here. Oh, you know who I would do? Oh, or at least I think I, you know what it is for me? Like, I feel like I kind of look like the character. If I don't look like the character, I don't think I can do it. That's just the me thing I probably could get away with. I don't know. Maybe one day I'll dress up as Pyro. That's a joke. Anyway, maybe like Dark Pit. I could do Dark Pit. You could pull off, yeah. You could pull off Dark Pit. Yeah. How come you're not wearing this costume right now for the podcast? I mean, I thought that I don't see the difference. That just looks like Mike. Yeah, this is going to be honest. I thought this was the same as the last photo you showed me. I just see it's healthy. Yeah, man. That's basically it. I really have one more question and then we're kind of done. Although, shout out to BamHut earlier for the five get to members, buddy. Yeah. Thank you so much, dude. Appreciate the support. Saffron City, good friend of the channel, and Monthly Gash will be back on April 10th, I believe, is her next episode. She says, do we think Gamecube is going to come to NSO eventually? Yeah, it's coming in. Not on Switch One. April. I'm going to actually go out on a limb and say that Nintendo for a long time is probably not going to offer Gamecube as like a virtual console kind of a deal or the NSO thing. And I think the reason for that is because Nintendo looks at the Gamecube games as being too modern to offer in a large collection for such a cheap price. And then you look at what they do with the thousand-year door, Metroid Prime, they can remake them and make a lot more money off them that way. So I think with N64, Super Nintendo, NES and all that, those are so old that offering them in this service is probably better, but with the Gamecube, I think it's probably not something they would do because they're pretty stingy with this kind of stuff. That'd be my guess. I agree with you, but I do also think it's worth mentioning that they've been doing N64 virtual console since the Wii. Since the Wii, yeah. Right, so that came out 2006 and that was what, what, a long time ago? Almost 20 years ago. I don't want to imagine how long that was. And yet Gamecube, Gamecube is still not old enough to be on virtual console. Right, I think it's because if you look at Mario Sunshine or a lot of these games that were big on the Gamecube, they still could pass as a game today if they had upgraded graphics. I think it's just we got to that point where control and a lot of stuff just felt modern enough now to where they're a little indistinguishable under the hood from a modern game. So I think being like, hey, pay $60 a year and you'll get 20 Gamecube games and all these, I don't think Nintendo is going to do that. They can make a lot more library. I still think Mario, I think Gamecube can make it on NSO and I think they can be very, very strategic about it. Not every game will make a remake. Not every game will get remastered. For example, Animal Crossing, the very first game. Perfect going for NSO. You know what I mean? And a lot of other games like Smash Bros. Melee, hello. Perfect game for NSO with online play. Wave Race Booster. Yeah, there's a lot of games that- Gamecube before? They're not, they don't take center stage sometimes. But Gamecube before is like $200 on eBay, by the way. Yeah, we'll be great games for NSO. Custom Robo. We're not going to have a Gamecube episode. I want a new Kirby Air Ride. Game for that. Yeah, Gamecube. I actually think that could be remastered. Yeah, Kirby Air Ride could. Yeah. City Trial Online. City Trial Mode Online would be nice. What I do, I do, I am on the train that Gamecube will make it to NSO, whether it's this year or next year for Switch 2. Oh, that soon. Do you think it's going to be like launch and Switch 2? Okay. I think Gamecube will eventually make it. Because right now we are in the era of backwards compatibility in the way of subscription service. Just like PlayStation is doing with there and Xbox is doing with Game Pass. And so I don't think Nintendo is going to- I don't think they want to lose on that revenue by having- They already have a subscription service with 150 million accounts. Does Game Pass make Microsoft money? Is that like financially good for them? I mean, they get paid by subscription. I don't know. I'm not sure. I think we got to take a closer look at the financials because it seems like a good idea, but also people- it's an extremely good deal because you are able to play a lot of games for not a lot of money. Right. And Nintendo is not the kind of company- I mean, they sold Mario vs. Donkey Kong for $50. I love that game. Even I'm like, wait, what? I don't seem to be going as far as- Damn you and your evade. Yeah, I don't seem to be going as far as- Could you even call all four of your attacks? I could only do three of mine. You bastard. Sorry. Who won that one? Dude, Eric did. Because I could pick my attacks. I could- Oh, man. Then I found out it's a shift alternator to pick, which is the plus button. And then you can't bring up the attack menu while you're doing it. So you don't want your big joy cons. Eric, my cards are brutal in this game. Oh, my God. Eric, Eric, there's always an excuse, isn't there? There's always an excuse. You don't understand. Yeah, but I take my Ls. Last time it was what? Three shots of tequila in a row. Pukin on stream. That was fun. Yeah. That was nice. Well, I think I'm going to call my- Yeah, that's it. Anyways, thank you guys so much for being here. That is the Nintendo Prime Podcast. Season two, episode 64. We'll go around quick and just let people know where they could find you. And we'll head on out. We'll start with our guest, Josh. Where could they find you, buddy? Okay. Well, they can find me right here on YouTube at the BitBlock. Unless I change the name for the 50th time, in which case it'll be something else. No, no, it'll be the BitBlock here on YouTube. Okay. And that's about it. I don't know Instagram as well. I guess I'm on Instagram with BitBlock too. So, yeah. Nice. Let's see here. Andres Restarch, where can they find you? What do you got going on? Andres Restarch. That's me on the YouTube. They can also find me on Twitter and other places. I probably won't actually give you a butterscotch. I just felt like writing that as the subtitle today. I want a butterscotch. Yeah, me too, actually. They're pretty good. Tomorrow night, I am starting a Tears of the Kingdom Challenge run. So, I explained the details of my channel on a community post today, but basically what we're going to do. So, yeah, I'm just going to stream Tears of the Kingdom for next few weeks. But every stream is going to be new rules implemented. So, to start tomorrow, it's going to be a four-heart challenge. It's the first basic rule. But just for the beginning area, just to make it a little bit more interesting, cap to play with no clothes in the game. Apparently, that has to be specified now, that's no clothes in the game. And I can't fast-travel. So, that's the initial challenge, but we're going to come up with new rules for every stream to add on top of it to make it harder and harder. So, say, for example, maybe after I get their Grappletoe, I won't be able to go into water, right? Or like, I don't know. I have to dance every time I see a Lionel or something. Like, just different feelings like that. And it's going to get to the point where it's probably going to be, like, basically impossible to beat the game. But if I get a Sage, I can remove a rule, or I'll engage in some sort of really stupid, like, I don't know, bet to get rid of a rule. Like, I don't know, maybe I'll wear, like, a Zero Suit Samus costume for a day. Hey! Drink seven shots of tequila, whatever it takes to make the game beatable. I take this rule. Can I make a bet right now? World's Hot as Chocolate. World's Hot as Chocolate. There you go. Something like that, exactly. Like, so the idea is just to make it really fun and challenging at the same time, and we'll see what happens. I'll let you guys all make it and try to like it. Nice, nice, man. Yeah. Uh, let's see. Mike! What's going on? Where do they find you? When's the Mike Odyssey show starting? The Mike Odyssey show is starting very soon. You see, there's stuff in the background, like, new, new little gimmicky stuff in the background for the new set. But, yeah, Mike Odyssey show is starting very soon. It's still going to be a new show, but different news and comedy show with little bits here, maybe some skits here and there, contests, prizes, guests. Tonight show, Nintendo-themed, family-friendly show, the Mike Odyssey show. So, and then Friday night, Jake would never be invited because it's family-friendly. Oh, yeah. Anybody can be invited. Anybody can be invited. Even Jake? Yeah, even Jake. Oh, okay. Does he have to keep it clean? To record it. So, you can say whatever he wants. Put, like, adults in the ways or something. There's just nonstop jump cuts of him. Right. You have to put new sentences together. But, yeah, and then every Friday, every Friday night, we have the new topic podcast, live on the channel, starting at 8 p.m., 8 30 p.m. Eastern time. It's only an hour podcast every hour. It could go into an hour and a half, but it's very short. Kind of straight to the point. Yeah. So, that's what's going on. But until now, until now. Hey, that's pretty good. Until I announce the official date for the new show starting, I have money to Friday news, like, as usual. And, of course, the podcast is going on. So, yeah, check it out. Check it out. I'm only 3,000 away from 50K. Nice. Nice. Nice. That's not bad. That's not bad. Halfway there. Oh, halfway there. Let's keep it going. Keep it going. Well, this, I'm Nintendo Prime. You know what's up with you guys? Find me everywhere on Nintendo Prime. It's just type Nintendo Prime in. It's probably me. And if it's not me, it's that one YouTube channel that existed before me that hasn't had a video in over 15 years. So. And I'm here. And Eric's here with me. Every now and then he walks in the room and I. Yeah. Eric. Fair enough. Oh, my God. I think we're fair enough. OK. Eric, I think I like that show on on Parks and Rec. What do you call that? Oh, I don't remember that on the radio show. Yeah. The Ira and the Dears. The podcast is here every Wednesday, 8 p.m. Central. We're counting down. We only have five episodes left of season two. And then some big changes coming in season three. Shorter show. New segments. New things. It's going to be pretty tight on just restart. We'll be happy about the shorter show part of that. My sleep clock will be happy. Your sleep clock will be very happy. We will like it's 10 40 right now. We will very rarely ever be this late unless it's a very special event like a switch to announcement. Kind of a special thing. I got a feeling no one's going to want to shut up. But those are rare. We don't have Nintendo Directs and that kind of stuff happening all the time. So most of the episodes are going to be two hours or less. So it's going to be it's going to be pretty cool. That being said, thank you so much for being here. It's been real. We'll be back live tomorrow. Again, 8 p.m. Central. Maybe a smidge earlier. I don't really know. And I might be debating on just restart next week. At some point. If it happens. Oh, yeah. Yeah, maybe it was it was almost going to happen today. But yeah, things happened. So yeah. All right, guys. We'll catch you later. Let me go ahead and slap this outro because it I don't know. It's an outro.