 having a some personal talk with the in-person student. You're welcome back after the break. We'll finish our last lesson in this art. And another area of challenge that we can face in ministry, apart from women, money is fame. We all want to become famous, well-known, have many followers in Instagram, YouTube, you know, thumbs up, we look for that, you know. In some way, you know, becoming famous can creep in. We want to be well-known, appreciated, and liked by people. And what happens when we look for fame? What happens? This is a good thing to look for fame, to become famous. Good name is important. Is the good name important? Hello? Is good name important? Yes or no? Being famous is important? No. OK? To have a good name, yes, is important, OK? And it's important for us to have a good name. Look at what scripture says in Proverbs chapter 22 verse 1. Can somebody read that please? Proverbs chapter 22 verse 1. You can pass on the mic to Deeksha. And yeah, Proverbs 22 1. Proverbs 22 1, a good name is to be chosen rather than green dishes, loving, favor, rather than silver and gold. Ecclesiast is 7-1. A good name is better than precious ointment and the day of that, then the day of one's birth. Yes. So it's a good name important? Yes, OK? And how do we get a good name? By publishing our banners, our photos, putting our images everywhere in our ministry area and our churches. How do we get a good name? Our character, the life that we live, OK? And so does good name come like overnight? No, it's built over time. We need to be consistent in our character. We need to be consistent in our behavior. Yes, Deepu says good behavior and character is very, very important. So is it important for us to pursue fame? No? That's good character. That's good name last. Good name last. If you consistently have a good character, will you have a good name? Even after you're dead, will you have a good name? Yes, what about being famous? I like when students sit right here up in front of me and does really good actions. Actually, we had the in-person students, they had a Christmas program yesterday. They treated us with a good Christmas program, a skit and dance and everything. And so the person sitting right up in front was acting like Herod. So he's continuing to act even in the class today because he did some good acting yesterday. We had a good time. They did a wonderful job, just a super job. They put up a skit and all of those things. And thank you, guys. You really did such a great job. And we were very blessed and had a good time. Thank you. And it was difficult for all of them to wake up in the morning and come. But I appreciate all of the in-person students coming. The other students, second and third years, are not having class. And I think they're still sleeping. So our focus should be on being more Christ-like. Being Christ-like and to live a life that is honoring and pleasing to God so that when you get a good name, it reflects the God that we serve. It reflects Christ in and through us. Should we be a God-pleaser or a man-pleaser? God-pleaser? What happens when we please men? What happens when we please men? I was just reading in my quiet time, the devotional book, and it says, when you are into pleasing people around you, pleasing men, it increases anxiety, worry, stress. You feel depressed. And I thought how true it is. When we are trying to please people around us, and people are never going to be pleased with how much ever you do, how much ever you be, whatever you give them. And you get frustrated. It increases stress, anxiety, worry. It makes you feel more anxious, worry, depressed. You feel more oppressed in your spirit as well. So it's important for us to be God-pleasers, not men-pleasers. We need to look for applause from heaven and not from men. So when we preach and when we teach and we do things, should we do it to impress people or to impart or to teach? To impart and to teach, not to impress. What happens if you are a person who's continually trying to impress people? What happens? Deepu says, people's expectation increases, yes. What happens when you're a people-pleaser? What happens to you as a person? Your whole focus will be to be people. So what happens when you're focusing on pleasing people? You'll not be able to do what God wants you to do. You will do what people want you to do, right? You will preach sermons what people want to hear. You will say things what people want to hear. You will act cool. You will behave cool. You will speak the same language. You will not say, hey, that is wrong. That behavior is wrong. You won't do that. You won't say that because you want to be cool. You want to be nice. You want to please people. You will not call sin as sin. You will not point out mistakes because you want to just please people. And so what happens is when people don't appreciate you, when people don't applaud you, when people criticize you, when people leave your organization or your church, what happens to you? What happens to you? What happens? What happens when people, you feel sad? Thank you, Deepu. You feel upset, yes? You get worried. You get into depression, yes? And you have a low self image and a very low self value. You question yourself. You're trying to constantly do things to please others. And what happens really frustrates you, really disappoints you, you feel drained in your energy. So it's important for us. So should we just totally forget what people give us, feedback and all of those things? Shouldn't we listen to people? We should listen. But you know, you know where to draw your lines, how much you can do. So set your heart on not pleasing people, but pleasing. God, it doesn't mean that you don't listen to people. You don't care about them. You don't pay attention to their feedback, their suggestions. You take it, you improve so that you can become a better person. But you can't please everybody at all times. Sometimes they misunderstand your motives, the way you're doing things. You just have to believe it. You can't please everyone. Now, you've seen men and women of God, when they have crusades, when they have, even in their own churches, even in their churches, their buildings, they'll have posters of them everywhere. And they will say, they will have like, you know, like, you know, we have Bible passages, you know, scripture passages that we hang up on the walls in our houses. So you will have sayings or statements of these people and then you will see there, you will see a wall hanging and you will read it and you think it's from the Bible. And then you think, hey, I'm not read this in the Bible and then it will be the pastor's name below. The pastor said this. And so it becomes like a quote. So more than scripture versus in the building on the churches, you will see more of these wall hangings that have all of these, what this pastor has made statements or quotes. What do you think about all of these things? Or when they're having seminar conferences, you know, huge big pictures or posters of these men and women of God. What do you think about these things? You think it's right? You think it's right? Yes, no. Have you seen this? Yes, what do you all think? It's self-promotion. Yes, it's self-promotion. Yes, there has to be a limit. Yes, you can put your images in the graphics in the poster like APC has, but we have very small. Pastor keeps it very, very small, very, very minimal. And at times we don't even have the, we just have the name of the speaker but we don't have the images or huge life-size photos or posters of that person. So why do you think people put up huge images of themselves, what they have said, what they have done, banners with their photos and where they're born and preached, you know, they're healing somebody. Why do you think they put up all of these things? Sorry. It's one man show, okay, publicity, okay. Sunny Moses, where are you? You're not here. Where are you the listing and writing from? From the dining hall. He's going to sleep, huh? Okay, publicity, yes. They want to make themselves well-known. They want to make themselves famous. They want to make themselves recognized. So when you look at, yeah, I've never seen this poster before. I didn't know this man of God, okay, what is his name? You know, so, you know, they want to become more famous, okay, to be more recognized, okay. But when you do all of these promotions, what do you think you should play in the back of your mind? What should you think? Why am I doing this? Why am I doing what I am doing? Anything in life what you do. Why am I saying this? Why am I going here and preaching? Why am I having this convention? Why am I having this program? Why am I, you know, going to preach in this place? You know, you need to ask yourself, because that is a kind of a check on yourself. You know, are you going to glorify God? Are you going to preach the gospel? Are you have a burden for people who are lost? Are you just going to do this convention, this conference, this program, so that you can have, you know, you can become famous, well-known, people can come to your church, you can have a big church, okay. So, Deepu says it could also be for an information, intention and inner thoughts are important. Yes, sometimes it's for information, but I think the information should be more about what is the conference about? What is the theme, you know, rather than the person? And yes, it's important for the intention and the inner thoughts are more important, okay. So, you need to ask yourself why you're doing what you are doing. You're doing to glorify God or to promote yourself as a very anointed man or woman of God, okay. So, don't think all of these promotions that you do on TV, you put your banners, you put your life-size photos, all these are going to really build up your church and ministry. Ultimately, who's going to build it? Yes, you know, it's God who is going to build, it's God who's going to bring the increase, he's going to bring the overflow, it's God who does things in and through you, it's not through your own promotions, meetings, conferences, okay. So, let your motives be pure, okay. Sometimes people think that if they become more popular, it shows that they are fruitful in ministry, yes or no. They think they equate foodfulness to popularity or they equate popularity to foodfulness, okay. The more foodful, the more popular you are, the more places you're going and preaching, the more invitations you're getting, people think they're more fruitful, okay. So, popularity does not mean that they're being used mightily in the kingdom of God, okay. And popularity, we should never look for it, it's not an indicator also how we are doing before, but God is not interested in how popular you are, you know, how many TV channels you're coming, you know, how many YouTube likes you have, followers you have, you know, how many people you have in your church, what has God more interested about you? What is God looking at you? Come on, what does God look, when one looks at you, what is he looking for you in your life? He's looking at your character building. Yes, he's looking at your character building and thank you, get through. Thank you, Deepu, he's looking for your obedience. He's looking if you're doing his will, right. Let his kingdom come, his will be done on earth as it is in heaven. What else is God looking for? He's not looking for martyrs, he's looking for mayors, right, wanted to sit and listen and, you know, become more Christ-like, that is what he's looking for, okay. Yes, Deepu says, willingness to serve, okay. So how do you get away from this whole thing of being popular, famous, looking for power and position? How can you step away from that? What are some of the things that you can do? What are some of the things you can do? Ask yourself this question, why you're doing what you're doing, you know, don't have yourself being publicized. Whenever you, anything God is doing through your life, give glory and honor to God, okay. Another thing is separate yourself from what people think about you, okay. You know, we must, as ministers of God, we must develop strength, you know, and not let all the good and the bad things that people say about you affect you, okay. You know, some people will give you honor, some people will not give you the honor, they will dishonor you. The same people who honor you today, they will dishonor you tomorrow when they get upset or angry with you. Some people will give you a good report, some people will give you a bad report, okay. Because people think in different ways, but it's important that you are standing before God and doing what is right in His eyes, okay. It's important to get feedback, it's important to change in some areas, but don't take everything that people say because that will demotivate you, you cannot last in ministry if you listen to every, and anything that people say, it can discourage you, okay. So it's important to take the positive, leave the other things, you know, guard your heart and also important to stand before God and say God, you know, was I right in doing this? Was I wrong in doing this? Correct me God, teach me, show me. It's important how we truly stand before God, okay. So when people applaud you, they give you all the glory and honor, say good job, pat you on the back, you know, don't get it, let it go on your head, okay. Why? Because pride can slip in. What was Satan's greatest downfall? Pride, he thought he can be like God, okay. And even when people dishonor you, speak evil against you, you know, say rude things, nasty things, that things that really hurt, you know, what should you do? Should need to guard your heart, okay. Don't get wounded and hurt because when you get wounded and hurt, you can get back at those people, you can hurt them, it can become like a cycle, okay. And you can't minister to God if you are in both areas, both when you are having pride and also when you're wounded and hurt. Remember, don't serve God, don't preach, don't teach when you're wounded and hurt. Don't preach and teach even when you are filled with pride. It's okay to let go for some days, settle yourself with God, your emotions, your heart attitudes, settle it with God, focus on God, come back, and then God can use you mightily for his ministry, okay. And then who you are before God is more important than who you are before, man, okay. It's better to, you know, have God tell you when you enter heaven, well done, good and faithful servant than, you know, he telling you, who are you, I don't know you. You know, and you say, God, I went to the prison, I went here, I did ministry here, I did ministry there. Say, sorry, I don't know who you are. Why does he say that? Because you've gone around doing what you wanted to do that makes you famous, well known, but you have not done what is the will and the heart and the purpose and the plan for God for your life, okay. So always remain focused to what God has called you, what is his will, his plan for your life and who you are before God. It's very, very important because it's important to hear from God, well done, good and faithful servant, okay. You can get applause for men, women, they can appreciate you, you can become famous, but that's no point, that's not indicator that God is going to tell you the same thing, okay. And also important that when people idolize you, they think you are God, you know, they think all the, you're praying for them, you're giving them word of wisdom, knowledge, prophecy or preaching well, you're annoying, such a powerful preacher and all of those things, don't let it go into your head, just remember that you are a human being and it's the anointing of God that is flowing through you. If it's not the anointing of God, you cannot be in that place, it's God's gift, his grace, his anointing over your life and that we are just earthen vessels and nothing more, okay. And all that we use God's word, his spirit is anointing, all should be to point to whom? Point to, who do you point to? The word that you preach, the anointing that you flow in the whole power of the Holy Spirit, who should it point to? God, okay, not point to yourself, okay. And even when, yes, you give all the glory and honor to the Lord God, all mighty, yes. Thank you Deepu. Okay, regardless of how big and famous you become, remember that it's all about God, it's God working in and through you, so you need to keep your feet on level, ground. Don't think that you are higher than people, you know? Sometimes we come to a place where we are flowing in your anointing, we're flowing in the gifts, we are powerful, we are ministering to people and we think we are above people, we think we become God to people. So when people tell us something, we get angry. When people correct us, we become angry. When people show us our weaknesses, we get angry, okay? That is the wrong place to be. We need to realize that regardless of our power or influence, we must be on level, ground. That means we need to keep our feet on the ground. We need to be stable. We need to know who we are, where we are from. It's only because of God's grace, his anointing in our life. So always stay simple, approachable, teachable, humble. When people teach you, receive correction. Don't come to a place where you're way high up thinking, I'm perfect, nobody can tell me. And you know, these people, when they come to that place, they don't want to listen to others. And when people point out their mistake, they treat them very, very badly. They push them away, they throw them out of ministry, throw them out of their leadership positions. Don't treat them well, and it's very, very sad. So we need to be humble, submit ourselves to one another. The word of God says, submit yourself to one another and accept on another, okay? Just a few more things, okay? The more you're given, the more you're going to be accountable to, okay? So remember that even as God takes you to higher places of glory, he's moving you and the gifts, the grace, and the anointing, that means he's given you greater levels that you have gone to, there's greater accountability. Yes or no? Yes, you're more accountable at that time. So you need to be more on guard, more vigilant, more humble, more sincere, okay? And it's important that you do things with diligence and commitment and be faithful. Generally, when people reach a certain position or a level, they say, hey, I've done so many years of ministry, I've accomplished this, I've accomplished that, I've done this, I've done that, they become lazy, they become slack, they don't give attention to details as they did when they started off in ministry, okay? So even as we grow and increase, we need to come to a place where we know that we are more accountable to God, okay? If we are not in a place of accountability, what happens? You know, we've reached Zenith, we need to reach a high place, high place, high position, we're very famous, very powerful, but we come to a place where we don't feel accountable both to God and man, what happens? You miss the mark and that is sin, yes? What happens when you come to that place? We can fall any time, yes. Thank you, Daniel, Oliver. You can fall at any time. That can become your downfall, right? Imagine when it's a downfall, it's not only you who are put to shame, but it's your sheep, the people who are along with you, journeying along with you, their hearts are broken and they can go away from God, okay? So wherever we are, whichever level we are, need to be humble, need to know that whatever God is entrusted, we need to multiply that more and more because we are more accountable to God, okay? And the last thing is, you know, oh, sorry. You know, so the higher God takes us, you know, we need to be more humble, okay? The more God exalts us, we need to come to a level where we are more humble, more teachable, both before God and man, okay? So don't desire fame, appreciation and applause. You know, let it die, don't give into the flesh, okay? Even if you don't get appreciation, even if you don't get love, even if you don't, people don't say, ah, who and stand and applause you and pat you, don't let it disappoint you, okay? Remember that glory, honor, wealth, riches come from God. The Bible says, glory, honor, wealth, riches come from God. Okay, he's the one who brings increase. He's the one who brings exaltation. He's the one who brings recognition in your life. You just be faithful to what God has entrusted to you. You stay obedient, you do the will of God. You continue to walk in Christ likeness and all of these will just follow you, okay? So the more you grow higher in level that God is taking you, the more you need to hide yourself in God, okay? Because those are times when we are more vulnerable to Satan and he can bring us down for it. Because Satan knows as leaders when he brings our downfall, the whole church, the whole sheet can fall apart, okay? And the last thing is we need to be aware of, you know, God, be aware of God complex. Now we come to a place sometimes where we think we are God, you know? We are God over people. So we tell them what they should do, what they shouldn't be doing. Nobody can tell us, nobody can correct us, you know? Even if we go against God's word, even if we violate God's word, we see ourselves above God's word, okay? And we think that we are, you know, in a place where we are God ourselves. And that is wrong, okay? Look at what Ephesians chapter five verse 21 says, submit to one another in fear of God, okay? So when we are in a place of total yielding, submission and surrender, you know, you know that you're keeping yourself free from God complex, walk in meekness and humility. And this way, you know, you can lead others to Christ and your life can speak for itself and you can fulfill God's plan and purpose for your life, okay? And you can walk in a God honoring way and that is what is going to lead people to Christ. And that is what is going to bring more anointing, more power that can help you. So these are very, very, very subtle things which we can overlook, but we need to keep ourselves mindful of these things. Always be teachable, you know? Always be open before God for him to correct us. Always be submissive, yielding and obedient to God and to man, okay? Any questions on both these chapters? Any questions? Yes. Can we think that the population in ministry is a blessing? Can we think that? The population is a blessing. Population in ministry is a blessing? Yes, why not? You mean in your church, if a church grows, you're saying that is it a blessing? Yes. It's a blessing. Why is it a blessing? Because it's God who has brought in the sheep, right? And why is he bought it? Because he's looked at you as a man who is accountable, who's humble, who's doing his will and he's bringing people to be fed by what he... And you're listening to him and you're feeding your sheep and you know? But don't let that blessing become a pride then God can take it away. Okay, Lucy says, when we receive praises, how do we respond to people? When we receive praises, just say thank you and just give glory and honor and praise to God. You can just tell them it's God who has done this to me and also think for yourself, hey, I know how weak I was. I know how much in fear and trembling I came and preached this word or prayed or the difficulties I'm going through the challenges, but thank you God for using me. I know who I was, where I was, where you brought me God. Thank you for using me. I think that is something that we do in our minds, but at the same time, we can thank them, give the glory and honor and praise to God and also be mindful of where you are and where God has brought you and thanking for that. Yes. Let's relate it to this fame, like a pastor is there, well-known, very famous, like big pastor, ministry is very big. So, and we are attending a church, our pastor. So he is pointing out some mistakes what this pastor is doing to which who is very famous. So it is right or wrong because in front of us, like Jesus only tell we should not judge others what they are doing. So what we should do. What do you think? We learned it, right? We just looked at it last, we studied it last week. When we studied people, how we relate to people, we looked at it preaching, we learned what we should do, what we shouldn't do, anointing. What do you think you should do? Judging, to judge people, it is not right. You should not judge that person? Yeah. Okay. Whatever their mistakes and all, Lord will take care of their mistakes. If they are doing some mistakes and all, they will so fall. They will see fall down in their ministry, nothing else. Yes. But we should not judge them. And remember, why do you look at the plank, a speck of dust in your brother's eye when you have plank in your own eye, right? So don't use a pulpit time for, don't give the pulpit time to the devil, right? Don't use a pulpit time, your message time to put down other men and women of God because if they are a big church, they are having a big church because of God's anointing and blessing. Don't be jealous of them. You'll be faithful. You preach and teach the word. Don't put down other people. Don't judge them. Yes. Any other questions or online students, any questions? Sister, many times when we pray and somebody is healed, we try to give credit to ourselves instead of God. We say, I prayed and that person got healed. That is wrong. I used to do that before, but not now anymore. Yes. Thank you for sharing to get through it. I think that's very humbling enough for you to share it, actually. I think we all go through that, yeah. And we also get upset when the person is giving a testimony and saying, I had this problem and the sister prayed for me and God healed me and the sister or the brother is very angry and said, why didn't they say my name? No, I prayed for them. See? So I think when the thoughts will come to our mind, it's not that we are perfect, but what should you do when the thought comes to your mind? Hey, it's not me. It was God, the Holy Spirit, the anointing, the power of the Holy Spirit that worked in and through me. Daniel says, can we look for faithful workers or we need to train them? We can train people, Daniel, with skills, but we can't train them to be committed and faithful and honesty, integrity, honesty, integrity, faithfulness, commitment. All I think comes, is within us. And I think it comes out of a relationship with God. We can't teach people to be honest. I realize that. Even with the assessments, when I'm looking at the assessments, it's very sad, where we are learning about, we're learning so much about being honest and how to be ministers of God, how to do with honesty and integrity. We learned this whole four months and when I'm looking at some of the assessments, I'm seeing people having multiple connecting through multiple email IDs and doing the tests in multiple email IDs and sending those and one test, they get less, the other test, they get more because they know all the answers and some of them are discussing and writing, some of them are copying from each other. And I was very hard broken actually when I looked at the assessments. So, you know, and I realized that, you know, you can't teach people honesty and integrity and faithfulness. It has to come within it. Even after we had, even after I've thought four months about honesty, integrity and, you know, being faithful in little things, honest in small things, I'm thinking when people are not honest in the small thing of assessments, when we go into ministry, when we face with bigger challenges, how are they going to face it, God? When they're not able to face a small assessment in being honest and small assessment and that was something that I was really upset. I said, God, you know, speak to them, change them because if they're not honest in a small thing like an assessment for a 25 marks, you know, then when it comes to bigger challenges, how can we be honest? When we know it's an assessment, the test, we should not be discussing with others, we should not copy others, not doing these, you know, things. So, you know, faithfulness and all of these things we can't really teach people. It just comes out of your relationship with God, you know? And I think he is the one who really helps us to in those areas. Only when we are connected to God, all of these things flow out, honesty, integrity, faithfulness and the rest, yes. Yeah. You can teach men and women skills, but not this. Yes, any questions? Ma'am, once you mentioned, don't serve good when you are hurt. So, how it's connected? Don't serve God when you are hurt means there's sort of bitterness, unforgiveness, hatred, anger. And when you are ministering out of that mindset, out of those emotions, you know, the anointing of God, can you just send this mic is jarring? Can you just reduce the volume please? You know? So, at those times, you know, you just don't feel, you know, the move of God is not, the anointing of God is not there. You're teaching and preaching out of brokenness and pain. And I'm not saying that when you are broken of pain or you're feeling sad about something, don't use it as an excuse. No, God can still use you, but you need to settle it with God and then come and preach and teach. Don't say that make all of these as an excuse. But what I'm saying is, if you've not done it, you've not settled it with God, don't go and preach and teach. Bring the healing for yourselves that the healing can flow out through you. All these can be a hindrance. Yes. It's not the right spirit that you're going with, right? So, any other questions? No other questions? Okay, there's no questions and we'll end class. Thank you all for journeying through these three publications. Thank you so much for all of you who faithfully joined class, attended class every Fridays. Thank you very much. And have a blessed Christmas season. All of you, maybe a refreshing time, a renewing time in your walk, in a journey with God, just to know that, you know, he who gave his only son, how will he not along with him graciously give you all things? So, that can be something that you can remind yourself. Some of you are going through, you know, lag, some of you are going through challenges, difficulties. Know that, you know, God who gave his only son, how will he not along with him graciously give you all things? Graciously give you good health, strength, you know, breakthroughs for your life. Thank you so much. Thank you, Daniel, especially for the assessment, well, good learning experience. Thank you for the positivity, Daniel. Thank you very much, all of you. Have a blessed Christmas season and a good break and I will see you. Thank you, Lucy as well. Thank you, Andrew, Angelin, Sanjay. Thank you, appreciate that. Thank you, Deepu, Esther, Sonia, thank you so much. Okay, God bless all of you and see you next semester and please put into practice everything that we have learned. Okay, let it not just be in these three publications, but put that into practice. You have any questions regarding the assessments? You didn't get marks? You know, I've been sending out your marks, so please check, you know, and if you posted your assessment and you will not receive the mark, please write to me on the screen page, okay? Don't send an email to me. I said write it on the Google Classroom screen page, I can, I'll keep checking that and then I will follow up with you, okay? Thank you all. Yeah, I have not sent out the first assessment, Lucy. I've not sent out the first assessment. I've just sent, I think, the third and the second. I will do the first and the fourth, yeah. Thank you, God bless you all. Appreciate all your love and your kind words, thank you. Thank you so much, Esther, Selina, God bless you. Thank you, thank you, Esther, get through it. Have a good time with your family. Thanks, ma'am. Thank you, Lucy. Have a nice Merry Christmas to you and your family. Wish you the same, God bless you. Thank you, Lucy. Thanks.